Smorgasbord of Iron Chef 73
Tetsujin28 writes ""Kyoo no tema wa...kore desu!" Iron Chef fans have a treat in store this weekend: three 2-hour specials on Food Network, featuring the 2000th Plate Special (French vs. Chinese dream teams) and a Flay-Morimoto rematch."
Alton Brown ~= Norm Abrams (Score:2)
I've learned more about the nasty details of food science from that one show than from all of the countless others I've seen over the years.
After seeing how he uses that Polder digital thermometer fir temp monitoring, I went out and bought one.
Best 30 bucks I've ever spent.
Now, If I can just put together the scratch for a Wusthoff Trident Chef's knife...
Re:Flay's a jackass (Score:2)
I feel the same way - I thought Flay spent too much time whining about water on the floor and moping and such and not enough time actually cooking...
I don't know about Emeril, though. Personally, I'd vote Alton Brown [foodtv.com] of "Good Eats" fame, myself...
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Re:Who cares about the meals? (Score:1)
What does Iron Chef have to do with with nerds ? (Score:1)
Quick, come up with an excuse to make this show relevant to slashdot !
Here's my try :
Iron Chef has an Engrish translation.
Re:great show (Score:1)
Re:great show (Score:1)
Seven years of French and I can't even ask how Monique's cat is anymore. (sigh)
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wagn'nagl dominos.
Re:Disappointment and Bobby Flay (Score:1)
Secondly, yes Flay was cocky so are most of the other chefs on the show. Don't pretend otherwise. That is the point of the show, to get people worked up. If Morimoto was so offended he could have chosen not to do another show. But his (Morimotos "your are not a chef") comments were part of the whole show.
Having said that yes B.F. comes across as a prick.
The Book (Score:1)
J:)
Re:Flay's a jackass (Score:1)
Alton would be good, but the limited show venue wouldn't give him enough time to change outfits or build his own stove out of raw materials
I'm rooting for Morimoto this time around.
:)
Re:Iron Chef rules! (Score:2)
Iron Chef rules! (Score:2)
Anyhow, I love the show - I cringe at the thought of an American version, and it sucks that it doesn't run anymore. I can only imagine it will end up being something like "Ready...Set...Cook!" - which sucked, but they did kinda the same deal - give a couple of good chefs a funky item to cook with, and off they go - but the set was very cheesy, and the announcer - well, she sucked (and not in a good way).
Anyone know what the Iron Chef theme music is, and where (or if) you can purchase/download the theme?
Worldcom [worldcom.com] - Generation Duh!
Interesting to note... (Score:2)
There was one episode where Kaga was "boycotting" the Iron Chefs because they had been losing. That week Hatori filled in for the Chairman. So Kaga hasn't tasted them all.
-Todd
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Re:Flay's a jackass (Score:2)
Re:Iron Chef vs Swedish Chef? (Score:5)
Kaga: Kyoo no tema wa kore desu ... Chocolate Moose!
Fukui: Chocolate Moose, an interesting choice, and one of the Challenger's favorite ingredients. The Challenger has wisely chosen Iron Chef Japanese Masuharu Morimoto, who will have a difficult time fully integrating this difficult theme ingredient into Japanese cuisine. Will he prevail? Will the Challenger unseat the Iron Chef?
Kaga: Allez cuisine!
Swedish Chef: Furst veet zee chuculete-a, und zeen veet zee muuse-a. Heer Muuse-a. Heer Muusey Muusey Muusey.
Ota: Fukui-san.
Fukui: Go ahead Ota.
Ota: The Iron Chef is mixing chocolate, seaweed, soy sauce and ginger in a small bowl, but he seems to be at a loss as to what to do with the Moose.
Kuzuko: Is the challenger just coating the moose in chocolate? [giggle] Excuse me, but that looks, well [giggle] awful. I'm sorry.
Fukui: Actually I'm told by the Challenger that this is quite common in Nordic cuisine, and I imagine it's quite tasty.
Kuzuko: You mean with salt that he's added.
Fukui: Yeah, I think that's the direction he's headed ...
Re:Flay's a jackass (Score:1)
Do people get Food Network in NYC? (Score:1)
Quick question...
I am moving to NYC in a month and when I was looking on the Time Warner cable site it didn't seem to list the Food Network anywhere. Does anybody somehow get the food network in the NYC metro area?
Josh
Flay's arrogance in embarrasing (Score:2)
Re:Flay's a jackass (Score:1)
horrible dub (Score:1)
I used to watch Iron Chef but am unable to do so anymore because of the horrible dubbing jobe the food network has done to the show. Nearly all of the japanese character is lost because you can't actrually hear the contestants / commentators / judges anymore. It's just the same bunch of people doing the dub.
The very least the food network could do is subtitle the shows and air them later the same day.
This whole shatner thing will only be worse.
Re:Why do I love the Iron Chef? (Score:1)
Because I'm glad Bobby Flay lost.
Then make sure that you DO NOT watch Saturday's show.
Because if they ever make "The Iron Chef for the PS2" it will probably suck.
Well, they did make Kitchen Stadium Tour [ironchef.com] for the Sega Saturn, and from what I heard, it didn't suck.
Re:Iron Chef rules! (Score:1)
I was actually just looking that up earlier, after watching the first Morimoto/Flay battle. While much of it is from Backdraft, there's some other music mixed in.
You can get information about pretty much every bit of music that's ever been used at the unofficial Iron Chef site's music page [ironchef.com].
Gum "mmm, Chocolate Moose..." bo
Re:Do people get Food Network in NYC? (Score:1)
Re:Flay's a jackass (Score:2)
As any fan of the show knows, brash young Turks who are too full of themselves never win. Any bets that Flay will show a more respectful mien in Tokyo?
If the theme ingredient is still alive, take one drink --Iron Liver
Re:Flay's arrogance in embarrasing (Score:2)
I was embarassed as well.
He's also apparently completely oblivious to the fact that 3/4 (maybe more) of the US crowd was cheering for Morimoto. He got his butt kicked and the home crowd wasn't rooting for him. You gotta love it.
Rich...
Re:Emeril instead of Bobby (Score:2)
Yeah, Emeril has about 3 stock lines that he uses over and over again, and yet the people still laugh. Another one of his favorites is, "What's a little (insert food ingrediant here) amongst friends?"
Rich...
Re:great show (Score:3)
The floor reporter (Ota) is trying to get the announcer's attention, who's name is "Fukui." So what Ota is screaming is "Fukui-San," adding the "san" to be polite.
All he is doing is calling out a person's name. :-)
Rich...
Re:What does Iron Chef have to do with with nerds (Score:2)
Re:Iron chef (Score:1)
Re:Iron Chef sucks (aka "America, wake up!") (Score:1)
Chen being challenged by the son of a woman who beat him in a battle several years prior.
Iron Chefs challenged by other groups of chefs (Ohta's Party of Heaven and Earth, Series A, etc.), claiming that the IC's approach is not correct or classical.
Chen taking on Chairman Mao's former chef.
Iron Chef Soap Opera where the challenger was read a letter from his separated wife during the cooking.
People who view Iron Chef as a cooking show instead of an hour of entertainment are missing the boat. I think "culinary experts" would have a different view of Iron Chef if they were to taste some of the dishes from the restaurants of the Iron Chefs and challengers. Iron Chef was not meant to educate viewers about food (who here eats foie gras, truffles, and soft cod roe every night?). If you want to learn about food, go to a cooking school.
Why do I love the Iron Chef? (Score:2)
I really don't know why.
Maybe because it's a campy idea.
Or perhaps because I actually learn something about food.
Because I can't stand either the fortune teller woman or the food critic.
Because I'm secretly in love with the Chairman with the way he bites that big, yellow pepper.
Because out of them all, I think that Iron Chef French has the most fun attitude.
Because I'm glad Bobby Flay lost. Die, Flay.
Because it has nothing to do with computers, giant robots, cute anime girls, computer games, or otherwise.
Because if they ever make "The Iron Chef for the PS2" it will probably suck.
But the real reason - because its different from anything else. Ross doesn't love Rachel some other week, I'm not watching people act like asses for an hour in an attempt at humor, I'm not hearing scientific psychobabble, and I don't watch tabloid information presented as real news.
Long live the Iron Chef. And the Chairman.
John "Dark Paladin" Hummel
Re:Iron Chef rules! (Score:2)
Re:great show (Score:2)
The only half-sane translation for "allez cuisine" I can think of would be something like "go cooking!", as if you were talking to cooking as a person, encouraging it to go on. That's heavy on the half-sane.
In the end, I guess that if that if the Japanese can mangle English [engrish.com], I suppose they can mangle French too.
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Re:Bobby Flay is a total Cock (Score:1)
Want some indy electronic (and other) music?
Re:I'd like to see 'em prepare puffer fish (Score:2)
Iron Chef Chinese (Chin) battled Paul Indragori in Battle Fugu. The episode first aired in 1993, so it's among the shows that's yet to be translated.
Pity it wasn't Sakai. Mmmmm, fugu ice cream!
Re:Why do I love the Iron Chef? (Score:1)
Re:Who cares about the meals? (Score:2)
At most, the harsher comments come across as "Sir, perhaps, this soup might taste a bit different with less salt -- this might make it a bit better, although I find its other aspects wonderful." This would be said in a very honarable way (Japanese has, AFAIK, 7 different intonations for respect).
Usually, they will have one of the new young Japanese actress girls, and they will say the soup is quite good, and they will giggle and cover their mouth. The only impossible-to-please woman is the food critic, and let me remind you that no matter how harshly she judges the Iron Chef, most of the time she always sides with him.
Re:Iron Chef sucks (aka "America, wake up!") (Score:2)
Re:Iron Chef sucks (aka "America, wake up!") (Score:2)
For entertainment, it's lousy. For culinary instruction, it's lousy.
Iron Chef sucks (aka "America, wake up!") (Score:3)
There was a time, not long ago, when New American haute cuisine was on a roll and was supposed to catch up within a few decades with French haute cuisine. Well, if the majority of Americans let themselves intoxicate with this lousy and hype-based vision of gastronomy as the one which appears in shows like Iron Chef, this dream should be over really soon now.
Re:Alton Brown ~= Norm Abrams (Score:1)
Good Eats actually teaches you how to COOK... not just how to follow a recipie. *sigh* I'm gonna go watch one I taped right now. =) Wonder if the all Alton Brown network would fly.
And if Flay wins the rematch, you *know* it was a fix.
Re:Emeril instead of Bobby (Score:3)
I think we could do without that =)
Re:great show (Score:1)
You're both right; you're talking about 2 different lines, Ota's and Kaga's.
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Re:Iron Chef sucks (aka "America, wake up!") (Score:1)
Folks, I'm sorry to moderate the enthusiasm of all the fans, but Iron Chef is a dramatically stupid and mediocre show. Culinary speaking, it's nothing more than a mix of mediocrity, ignorance, and sensationalism.
Wow -- Iron Chef isn't about real haute cuisine? Thanks for the news flash. Next you'll inform us that The Lone Gunmen wasn't about real computer hacking and investigative journalism.
Iron Chef is an entertaining program. If you're sharp enough not to take it too seriously.
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Re:Flay's a jackass (Score:1)
And I agree. Flay is a world-class jackass. He was very condescending to that poor retarded man he used to cook with on Grillin' and Chillin'.
Re:Iron Chef vs Swedish Chef? (Score:1)
Thanks for the laugh. +6, sorta.
All Your Food Are Belong To Us! (Score:3)
Iron chef (Score:1)
ALL FRENCH HAS WON! (Score:1)
What a battle.
and the results are in!! (Score:1)
Now, if only I could get on the tasting panel.
--nick
Morimoto vs. Flay II - Is Don King involved? (Score:3)
Flay: "I am the greatest chef of all time."
Morimoto: "I am confident that I will win."
Flay: "I am pretty, and I can't be beaten."
Morimoto: "What? What does that even mean?"
At that point the two world-renoun chefs had to be physically separated to keep them from cooking one-another.
In other news: McVeigh's lawyers find John Doe, II. [ridiculopathy.com]
Re:Flay's a jackass (Score:1)
Personally, though, I think it would be a lot better if they got someone from an actual restaurant as they do in the Japanese show. Someone that we've probably not heard of, but who is top in their field.
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Best Quote (Score:1)
Who cares about the meals? (Score:4)
"Yes, this seven course crab meal delicately prepared with rare seasonings from the heart of France using everything from the brains for a mousse to the claws as the cutlery is just too salty. I don't like it."
Re:Interesting to note... (Score:1)
Re:Iron chef (Score:1)
-Nano.
news for nerds stuff that... (Score:3)
Iron Chef at school! (Score:1)
not that you can learn now because of the dubbing, but still cool show.
Re:What does Iron Chef have to do with with nerds (Score:1)
Re:Disappointment and Bobby Flay (Score:1)
Hey relax.
I noticed it because I have an interest in public health and sanitation, so I was surprised that he, as a chef and someone who ran a restaurant, did so. Clearly, BF was psyched and a cutting board isn't sacrosanct, but walking around on your kitchen prep surfaces isn't a great idea.
Eh screw it...
Re:Disappointment and Bobby Flay (Score:1)
Disappointment and Bobby Flay (Score:2)
I thought Flay was way too cocky during that first match-up. That and the fact that he stood up on his own chopping board (gross!) leads me to hope that he gets slammed this second time around.
I was heartbroken to learn that, despite wild popularity, the show had ceased in Japan except for the occasional special episode. Iron Chef was on for six years, so I guess it'll be a few more years before we come to the end.
Plenty more shocking details over at the unofficial IC site [ironchef.com].
Re:Flay's a jackass (Score:1)
A Tom Douglas or Wolfgang Puck would be pretty cool, too.
Dancin Santa
Flay's a jackass (Score:2)
Maybe this time they can turn the juice up a little in the electrical cords they run near the stage.
Dancin Santa
Bobby Flay is a total Cock (Score:2)
Last time they met, Flay flailed around, complained like the childish egomaniac that he is, and insulted Morimoto, the Iron Chef concept, and all of the cooking industry by putting his grimy noo-yawkuh boots on the cutting board.
Justice was served, though, when he got his ass handed back to him by the judges. No way is a "rematch" justified. Morimoto-san should have told them to fuck off and called out Emeril or Ming Tsai instead.
'Sides. I've watched Flay's show. My dog eats better. And he eats his own poo.
--Blair
"How do you say ' Woof! Woof, woof-woof! ' in Japanese?"
I can see it now (Score:3)
Shatner: "Oops. Sorry about that, Kaga-san."
Morimoto: "Wait! I have a recipe for toupee'...."
Iron Chef vs Swedish Chef? (Score:1)
That would have been hilarious. And then we perhaps would get Iron Chef here in Scandinavia as well.
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This is why I have Tivo. (Score:1)
Re:Iron Chef sucks (aka "America, wake up!") (Score:1)
As opposed to the brilliant programming on American television: Jackass, the Tom Green Show, Friends (Jimmy loves Rachel this week, what will happen?), anything on the WB, etc. etc. etc.
Not to say their aren't good American television programs (The Sopranos, for example). Just not many.
For entertainment, it's lousy. For culinary instruction, it's lousy.
Entertainment is a matter of taste. Lots of people like Friends; I don't. That doesn't make it lousy, that makes me change the channel. And the show is not intended to be culinary instruction. They don't tell you how to make the recipies they prepare, nor would it matter if they did. I don't happen to have live squid in my fridge right now.
Re:great show (Score:2)
Yeah... I've seen the show a few times...
I'd like to see 'em prepare puffer fish (Score:1)
Puffer fish are so cool. If prepared incorrectly for sushi, people can die [allsands.com]. They are also known to cause mild hallucinagenic effects. I think the Iron Chefs should be preparing Fugu [kazsushi.com]. (puffer fish sushi) =)
Now THAT'S good TV!great show (Score:1)
Smorgasboard? (Score:1)
A. Well, you'd have an Smorgasborgasm of course!
Allez Cuisine!! (Score:2)
We are demanding! Kenichi vs Emeril! I think Bobby Flay should be the main ingredient! BAM!