

Pixar Finally Offers Animated Shorts on Pixar.com 190
NicerGuy writes "Today I was bored and decided to check out pixar.com. I hadn't been there in a long time, but was pleasantly surprised to find that they have finally made all(?) of their animated shorts available for download. The films, which are in QuickTime format, include my favorites: Geri's Game and Luxo Jr."
Cool (Score:1)
Re:Cool (Score:2)
Re:Cool (Score:1)
Re:Cool (Score:1)
Re:Cool (Score:3, Interesting)
A Bugs Life is just Yet Another Disney Film (yawn), which, while enjoyable in a mindless sort of way, is a bit jaded even to my seven year old niece.
Geri's Game, however, is cool. All the Pixar shorts are cool, because they aren't just Yet Another Disney Film. Pixar shorts have originality. While I accept that A Bugs Life isn't targeted at my peer group (well maybe it is targeted at 19 year old Comp Sci students...), it's still a little predictable, even for Disney.
Re:Cool (Score:1)
Re:Cool (Score:5, Interesting)
Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai.
Seven strangers are recruited to save a village.
Which is also remade as:
The Magnificent Seven,
Three Amigos,
and Galaxy Quest
Amongst others.
It's not that it's "predictable..." It's that we like to be retold/repackaged good stories.
Really neat (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Really neat (Score:5, Informative)
Why is everybody saying Pixar=Steve Jobs ?
Pixar is John Lasseter, that's all.
He's an artist, and I love all that he has done,
from the very beginning.
I think one of the first 3D computer rendered image that Pixar made and got used in a movie was in "Young Sherlock Holmes", but I am not sure about this...
By the way, if you like short animation movies you can also
go to Aardman [aardman.com], and enjoy some movies from the makers of Chicken Run !
Young Sherlock Holmes FX (Score:1)
Re:Young Sherlock Holmes FX (Score:1)
John Lasseter worked on it, anyway, which confused me.
Re:Young Sherlock Holmes FX (Score:1)
I think the first movie done by what would become Pixar is Star Wars, they did computer readouts of the Death Star.
Re:Young Sherlock Holmes FX (Score:2)
Re:Young Sherlock Holmes FX (Score:2)
As someone else pointed out, Larry Cuba did this. The first movie work done by the Lucasfilm Computer division (later Pixar) was the Genesis demo in Star Trek II. The simulated Death Star display in Return of the Jedi was their second job. (I have first-hand knowledge of both of these.)
pixar != john lasseter (Score:3, Informative)
People like Ed Catmull, Pat Hanrahan, Tom Duff, Loren Carpenter, Bill Reeves, Andy Witkin, Micheal Kass, David Baraff, Larry Gritz (and the rest) are what truly enable Pixar to make such visually compelling stories. Without Pixar providing a conducive atmosphere for their contributions to computer graphics from an academic pov, we'd be worse off.
There are amazing computer scientists at Pixar, and amazing people holding down the infrastructure. Can anyone imagine the throughput in their LAN during crunchtime?
All said and done, all these fancy algorithms and implementations would be useless without compelling stories and art. Pixar has amazing artists, nobody should overlook that.
Pixar and PDI are stalwarts of the commercial (read entertainment) computer graphics industry, and deservingly so, their contributions (in all forms) cannot be overlooked.
Kawaldeep
Re:Really neat (Score:5, Informative)
But Catmull was always interested in doing animated movies while Lucas was interested in photorealistic effects. So he let Catmull look around and later in 1986 Lucas sold Pixar to Steve Jobs (of course way before he went back to Apple). While Jobs might be the owner, if you want to equate Pixar with someone that would be Catmull (though there are many talented folks there). They also had an agreement that ILM would get first access to any new technology Pixar developed. And the rest as they say is history.
Re:Really neat (Score:1)
Although many folks are not aware of it, most of this was done in custom hardware. They needed framebuffers and the like that were unavailable commercially at that time. They also had an interal Computer-Aided Engineering department that rolled their own design automation system.
How do I know this? They were at the 1984 design Automation Conference, trying to sell their design automation system as a sifeline. We were competitors who had a suite down the hall from them. They came to see our demo and we went to see theirs. I got a nice T-shirt from them and next year, they weren't back. It's OK, we weren't either, having been acquired by HP.
It was still a nice T-shirt though. I wore it for many years...
Re:Really neat (Score:2)
Even before Willow, ILM started using CG FX. Star trek 4 had the morphing heads captured from Cyberscans of the actors, Die Hard 2, Young Sherlock Holmes etc. Depending on what you consider digital FX, ILM was doing way before Last Crusade but still composited part or all the frame optically.
Shorts? (Score:3, Funny)
If it hadn't been for the Luxo Jr. mention, I would have not been enlightened for quite some time.
oh yohoo, quicktime (Score:1)
WINE! (Score:2)
Re:oh yohoo, quicktime (Score:1)
support for nearly everything...
Re:oh yohoo, quicktime (Score:3, Informative)
Public Transcoder (Score:1)
I'll contribute the transcoder code if someone will take on the mechanics of setting up the site.
Re:Public Transcoder (Score:1)
Also, these movies can't be converted using Quicktime Pro or any tools based on it because they have the no-save, no-copy attribute set.
Re:Public Transcoder (Score:1)
There is no need to convert every frame. I step through the movie with GetNextInterestingTime() and convert only the key frames. The destination codec can fill in the diff frames. This is fairly fast and the quality is as good as whatever the destination codec supports.
Bandwidth is a consideration, but then it always is for movies. The server could cache a few popular movies. Then bandwidth would be three times the original movie when the first user downloaded the movie, uploaded it to the server and DLed the transcode. Subsequent viewers would use about the same bandwidth as for downloading the original.
You're right about the no-save attribute in this case but that's not all that common. I've been able to save most movies I DL.
What do most Linux users have for codecs? I could really simplify my code if it's just Sorenson -> whatever.
Re:oh yohoo, quicktime (Score:1, Offtopic)
It's not a ripoff of someone else's Usenet post
Wrong! The whole thing [google.com] is ripped from Usenet.
Nostalgic (Score:1)
Ooh, so confusing (Score:5, Funny)
Pixar == Disney distribution == Disney == bad.
but
Pixar == nifty films == good!
but
Pixar == Steve Jobs == Apple == bad!
but
Apple == iPod == lame?
(this is where it gets confusing)
Pixar (also) == Linux == geeky == GOOD!
but
Linux == Pixar films == more money to MPAA == BAD!
but
Linux == less money to Bill Gates == GOOD!
but
Pixar == Apple == Sorenson Codec == BAD!
but
Sorenson Codec == Good Quality at Reasonable Size == GOOD!
but
Pixar == Apple != Linux == BAD!
but
Apple == OSX == BSD == GOOD!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaargh!
Thinking in more than one direction is really confusing. Someone post something about MS embracing and extending something, even if it's just an elastic band. Please? I need my world to be set right again.
Maybe a frogurt?
Alex
Confusing!! (Score:1)
perhaps we do (Score:1, Funny)
I can say with 76% certainty that the answer to this suggestion is "maybe".
Re:Ooh, so confusing (Score:5, Funny)
Since already the 2 statements:
Prove that (since == is transetive):
And it's a generally accepted axiom that:
When we apply the usual axiom of negation:
We get:
We can now invoke the usual definition of && to prove:
Establishing that your proof-system is not sound and thus you should expect it to be confusing, since it can prove any statement what-so-ever.
I suspect, that if you remove the "transetive" property from your definition of "==" your system may become sound, but unfortunatly not as funny.
Logic is not easy, but it's good clean fun
Re:Ooh, so confusing (Score:1)
Re:Ooh, so confusing (Score:2, Insightful)
This is why little companies should STAY little companies, or be broken out into little companies if they were originally part of a big company.
The whole movie industry stinks - but their products, occassionally, don't.
Pixar=Disney=Cant give them money.
BUT - the last 5 seconds of the monsters inc trailer is the funniest thing I've seen in YEARS - no... wait... EVER!
Whats a guy to do?? I dunno - Im going to have to either wait for it to be on free to air TV or sneak into the movies for the first time since I was 13.
Re:Ooh, so confusing (Score:1)
This is temporary. Check the company's long range plans. They are in a distribution agreement with Disney for only so long, and only so many films [lubbockonline.com]. What else could they do to get their first few films out? As soon as the Disney deal is up, they can go independent, hook up with DreamWorks (doubtful), or whatever. I just hope they don't re-up with the big D. I'd like to see them have enough capital and expertise to manage the entire process on their own.
Re:Ooh, so confusing (Score:1)
Re:Ooh, so confusing (Score:2, Informative)
Remember that iPod retails for *exactly* the same cost as Toshiba sells the hard drive it contains. That is not lame. The only bad thing is no digital still camera I know of has a firewire output, or you could use it as a 5 gig storage thingie for a digicam, with it easily fitting in your pocket.
Re:Ooh, so confusing, AI implications (Score:1)
Perhaps we could have a
Re:Ooh, so confusing (Score:1)
Re:Ooh, so confusing (Score:1)
However, under windows at least, the new sorenson codec has been "jumpy" for me, maybe "pulse-y" would be a better adjective; The sound is good, but the video comes in surges.
Everyone should be using MPEG4 anyway. It obviously rocks.
I doubt Pixar will turn a profit this year... (Score:3, Funny)
animated shorts... (Score:1)
Slashdotted already... (Score:1)
Better on dvd (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Better on dvd (Score:2)
My box is silver. The Ultimate Toy Box. I'm sure that makes me cooler than someone.
Re:Better on dvd (Score:1)
Of course, their server seems to be approaching meltdown even with those medium sized clips.
Re:Better on dvd (Score:1)
Re:Better on dvd (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Better on dvd (Score:1)
Just to add to this, Pixar also gave out the Geri's Game VHS tape to their shareholders.
Crossover plays Quicktime in Linux. Its good. (Score:5, Informative)
it uses Wine, buts in a much more limited and controllable environment, meaning its a lot more stable. It supports any browser which support the Netscape plugin API (Galeon, Mozilla, etc) but bugs in Konq nspluginapi implementation means that Konq and Quicktime is a no goer (currently anyway).
Its twenty US bucks and the cash goes towards the salaries of the fellows who work on the free, main Wine project. it can be clunky at times 9when running Quicktime as a standalone app) but generally its OK. Galeon, OTOH, works with it a treat. I've viewed every single trailer at apple.com with it (to the point of being kicked off my ISP for bandwidth overuse
Version 1.01 is coming out this week, BTW, which apprently fixes a lot of the bugs of earlier versions.
its a good product and worth the small price. The money also goes to a good cause that contributes to the community.
No, I don't work for them
Re:Crossover plays Quicktime in Linux. Its good. (Score:2)
Hmm, two solutions here:
1. Kill of Proprietary formats so anyone can code plug ins
2. Generic plug-in format with open API specs.
I propose 1 && 2
Re:Crossover plays Quicktime in Linux. Its good. (Score:2)
All the other code is contributed into Wine, which was BSD licensed (I think last time I looked. Codeweavers of course pays the salary of Wine founder Alexandre Julliard and many other major wine developers, including their work on enhacing the Open Source one.
I'm happy with that and I think most people should be.
Memories... doo doo doo doo doo memories... (Score:1)
Luxo Jr. and John Lasseter (Score:5, Informative)
Anyway, Luxo Jr. is a classic in computer animation. The most amazing part, is that it is made in 1986. This little movie really pushed the mental limit for people as to what computers could produce. Sure, Lasseter wasn't the only one experimenting at the time, but IMO this particular animation made computer animation respectable as it even got nominated for an Oscar under the category Animated Short Film in 87. Well, it's fun no matter what - check it out.
Re:Luxo Jr. and John Lasseter (Score:3, Interesting)
Yeah, Luxo Jr was a classic. It's amazing to see how far hardware has come; Luxo was rendered in realtime by a GeForce 3 card in a Macworld demo. I'd link up the demo but according to this [gamespy.com] interview it is not being released :(
Re:Luxo Jr. and John Lasseter (Score:1)
Re:Luxo Jr. and John Lasseter (Score:1)
Pixar had an extended preview at SIGGRAPH 2001 of Monsters Inc. both at the Electronic Theatre and also in the FX R&D course.
Re:Luxo Jr. and John Lasseter (Score:1)
Re:Luxo Jr. and John Lasseter (Score:1)
Re:Luxo Jr. and John Lasseter (Score:2)
Well here is a brief post by Tom Duff, one of Pixar's top guys, in the RenderMan newsgroup:
Pixar's renowned shorts [google.com]He mentions it was done in 4 old VAX/780s, done while RenderMan was still in development. No RIB, no shading language. RenderMan didn't get fully realized until a couple years later. The RenderMan Companion book which culminated the effort ((though it doesn't cover RIB) wasn't published until 1989.
Anyone else think this is funny? (Score:5, Funny)
Disney/Pixar most definitely do not like DreamWorks, and vice versa. Ever notice how Farquad [kingnet.com.tw] (the villain in Shrek) looks amazingly like Micheal Eisner [usc.edu], and that saying "farquad" fast enough sounds a lot like "fuck wad"? These guys dislike each other on a personal level.
Re:Anyone else think this is funny? (Score:1, Offtopic)
Eisner was even forced to admit in court [bbc.co.uk] that he said in reference to Katzenberg: "I hate the little midget."
Re:Anyone else think this is funny? (Score:1)
For the Birds (Score:5, Informative)
If I'm not mistaking, the reason it's not up for download yet is because Pixar want to have it nominated for an academy award, for the best animated short. And the academy's rules state a nominee is not allowed to be broadcast on the net or on television, except during animation festivals like SIGGRAPH etc. (Or something to that effect). It was shown at Spike & Mike's Sick & Twisted Animation Festival however.
It should be submitted to the academy this year. Last year however, a fairly reliable source said a paperwork error made the short miss the submission deadline. If that hadn't been the case I'm sure it'd be up for download aswell.
Re:For the Birds (Score:4, Interesting)
Seconded. For the Birds is hilarious. The character design on the large bird is wonderful. Pixar's animators once again demonstrate sheer mastery of comic timing. Although John Lasseter is Disney-trained, there are definite Warner Bros. and Tex Avery influences evident in this film, as well as Knick-Knack.
If you have the chance, do yourself a favor and see it.
Schwab
Re:For the Birds (Score:1)
Re:For the Birds (Score:1)
Re:For the Birds (Score:1)
Mirrors Please... (Score:1, Offtopic)
Right here (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Mirrors Please... (Score:2)
I have the For The Birds sneak peak mirrored on Morpheus/KaZaa. Search for ftb_sneak_320.
Re:Mirrors Please... (Score:1)
Offtopic? I can't think of anything more ON topic than getting us some access to these files so we can at least talk about them.
We've come a long way since Luxo Jr (Score:2)
We've come a long way since then !
Sorenson codec (Score:2)
Does anybody know any better?
No one else can have my movie clips! (Score:3, Funny)
Uhm, yeah. You found them, decided no one else could have them, so you submit it to Slashdot knowing that it's the best way of ensuring that their servers will die and that they will remove them again?
Hosting a movie clip of any size and having it posted on Slashdot must be like the ultimate punishment.
May have to break out the wallet (Score:2)
Great shorts, especially Geri's Game.
Saw that when I took the kids to A Bug's Life.
Made the bugs bearable.
I may have to break down and shell out for the Crossover Plugin so that I can play these.
Or -- hmmm. Maybe I can steal the spouse's NT Thinkpad...
She doesn't really need it, right?
How do you actually download them using Mozilla? (Score:2)
Greetings
Less than Spectacular Transfers (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm in the middle of pulling down Knick-Knack (Bobby McFerrin rocks), and the quality of the transfer to QuickTime is definitely not what I would expect from Pixar. It appears that they did a very simple and very quick film-to-video transfer. The registration is poor (the frame jumps vertically), and the brightness of the imagery varies.
But most importantly, I think, is that frames have been dropped. In my opinion, this is nearly fatal to Knick-Knack. Knick-Knack has comic timing down to the frame level, nearly as fine as anything done by Tex Avery. By dropping frames -- believe it or not -- part of the joke is lost. Some jokes are three frames long. In particular, I feel the jackhammer scene and cutting torch scene are almost ruined. It's not simply what he's doing that's funny, but how they show him doing it. Every frame is critical to showing that, and I'm surprised and disappointed that they released even a free version in this condition.
If they do the same thing to For the Birds, it will be ruined, too. They're too wonderful to be seen only in this manner. If you get the opportunity, you owe it to yourself to see them at full frame rate.
Schwab
Quicktime. Great.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Also, the big argument about Quicktime is "Higher quality, lower bitrate". Does this hold true against MPEG4? DiVX
If Pixar is USING Linux internally, why don't they support it more EXTERNALLY?
And the last question: how does Pixar convert from whatever format they use internally to QuickTime? Are any of these conversion tools available for Linux?
Re:Quicktime. Great.... (Score:3, Insightful)
We are not talking about just any source here, we are talking about very high quality rendered animations. It's beyond me how they can release these in anything but the higest possible quality (anything less than DVD quality is a shame).
Small crappy video might be nifty for modems and not that terribly gr8 sources, but in this case I would argue that the highest possible quality (that everyone can watch) should be the goal. I rather have them put these on their DVDs (which reminds me that I need to buy more of those) than in low quality
Really news? (Score:1, Flamebait)
<SARCASM>While we're posting articles like this, I was over at CNN [cnn.com] and they have some new information too.</SARCASM>
THIS IS NOTHING COMPARED TO HAMSTER HAVOC! (Score:1, Funny)
Just Great (Score:1)
Slasdotted! (Score:1)
Pixar kicks ass (Score:1)
I've heard it said that John Lasseter is the second coming of Walt Disney. Not only do the Pixar movies make for technical achievements, but they also work well as stories and they make you want to watch them for something other than the "neato computer animation factor". Some films get too caught up on the how and forget the story. For example, on the Phantom Menace DVD's, they never mention the story and mythos of Star Wars, they just blathe on about how the made the waterfall sequence or Jar Jar's ears. John Lasseter is the new Walt Disney and his medium is computer animation - this is great news for /.-ers.
Also, I graduated from Texas A&M and I know there's a computer graphics (degree) program here that has sent at least a couple of people to Pixar. Does anyone out there know who?
Re:Pixar kicks ass (Score:3, Funny)
I really like the Phantom Menace commentary because it has so many different people talking about how they made the movie, not just George Lucas. That is what a commentary should be I think. The only thing that could have been better would be to have some of the actors on it. How cool would be to have the actor who did the voice of Jar Jar justify himself or Natalie Portman talking about what it was like. Moderators please note that this is actually a contexual use of Natalie Portman.
Re:Pixar kicks ass (Score:1)
Ideas for Pixar (Score:1)
Offline fun (Score:1)
This is nice, but... (Score:2)
Yes, I'll still download the quicktime files and convert them with TMPENC and then burn them to VCD (so I can watch on my DVD player). I'd imagine many other people will do the same.
I'm not complaining, mind you. I'm glad they released these. I'm just surprised that no one seems to ever release VCD-ready files.
-S
Monsters, Inc. (Score:2)
As with most Pixar work, there's a strong procedural texture look to the thing. All those Pixar people, endlessly writing separate Renderman shader code for each material. I didn't see anything that was clearly a photographed texture in the Monster world. It's not photorealism; it's procedural cartooning.
This looks like a lower-budget job than the previous films. Fewer scene changes and more background reuse. No big technical innovations. More of a kid's film than previous Pixar output. Don't expect "Shrek".
Worth seeing, but don't rush to a theater.
Re:Pixar Story (Score:1, Flamebait)
Not Exactly (Score:2, Informative)
Re:other formats (Score:2, Informative)
Pixar ==> Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs ==> Apple/NeXT
Apple/NeXT ==> MacOS
MacOS ==> QuickTime
Re:That's a step... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:That's a step... (Score:2)
They don't make that much money from RenderMan, their main source now is the animated movies. They don't even do commercials now.
Still if you wanted an open source RenderMan compliant renderer there is AQSIS hosted at Sourceforge.
AQSIS [aqsis.com]And there are many others (mostly closed).
Re:Monsters on warez (Score:3, Funny)
But the quality is much lower than
you get in theatre.
That's the worst haiku I've ever read.
Re:quick, write a letter to quicktime@apple.com (Score:2, Funny)
Because a bunch of geeks can't freeload short movies off their server? This is hurting their bottom line?
Re:Clown Nightmare (Score:2)
Re:Clown Nightmare (Score:2)
Actually while Red's Dream does involve a clown and a dream he might be referring to Bingo. It was produced internally by Alias/Wavefront under the direction of Chris Landreth, to test the newly created Maya. It premiered at SIGGRAPH 98 in Orlando. You can see it here:
Chris Landreth portofolio at Maya Masters [mayamasters.com]You can also get it on video and DVD. It's included in the SIGGRAPH 98 video review of the Electronic Theatre, and at least in one of the Odysey 3D DVDs/videos (some others also included many classic animation and shorts by PDI among others):
Issue 125: SIGGRAPH 98 Electronic Theater Program [siggraph.org]
Computer Animation Marvels [odyssey3d.com]