New Wallace and Gromit Episodes Coming Online 170
chachi5000 noted that
CNN is running a story about
Aardman releasing
Wallace and Gromit Shorts Online.
There will be a dozen of the one minute clips featuring the awesome
plasticine duo. Also bits about the feature film coming in (sigh) a few years.
Anyone who hasn't seen the existing Wallace and Gromit trilogy is
missing out.
Now I understand... (Score:1)
Yes, I do live under a rock today. Or rather, I live in a cubicle with limited Internet access. Same difference.
Good old-fashioned animation, eh? (Score:3, Insightful)
May clay-mation never die.
-J
Cracking good news! (Score:1)
Maybe this will prod Vinton Studios into putting Mr. Resistor [vinton.com] on the web again.
Department of Redundancy Department (Score:2)
Just wondering.
Virg
Re:Good old-fashioned animation, eh? (Score:1)
Not so. according to the site, they'll be available on video as well for those w/out internet access.
Re:Good old-fashioned animation, eh? (Score:2, Informative)
The three Wallace & Gromit shorts are classics, frequently shown on TV in many countries. Two of them won the Oscar for animated short films. There's also a fine DVD with all three stories available, with Nick Park's early animation work as a bonus. R1 DVD even has a commentary tracks by Nick Park himself. Highly recommended stuff!
Not too long ago I saw Aardman's pretty recent TV-show Rex the Runt [aardman.com]. It's only something like 13 10-minute episodes, but it was completely hilarious, very trippy and psychedelic. There should be second series coming as well, and I can hardly wait for it being shown on TV here.
Re:Good old-fashioned animation, eh? (Score:1)
Pretty sweet really
Re:Good old-fashioned animation, eh? (Score:1)
Just grab a web cam, or a digital camera, and start snapping.
Once you have a numbered sequence of JPEGs, there are plenty of utilities to produce an MPEG (or whatever you use).
Can't be too hard can it?
Re:Good old-fashioned animation, eh? (Score:1)
One interesting bit about it was that they used Elastic Reality (now from Avid, then a seperate company) to fix most of the dialog shots. Recently I've been playing with doing animation buy just keyframing the puppet, then morphing between the keyframes. I've noticed that you need more keyframes then one might expect or the motion is too linear. It seems to me that if I wrote my own software I might be able to add function curves to the morph to fix that. Some times the quality is really good. Other times the morph has problems with layered objects. I think the approach is worth more research though. But thats getting away from my point.
Also, I'm not sure about the Ardman stuff, but most stop motion work is built on metal skelatons. There is an article on building such things at http://mag.awn.com/index.php3?ltype=cat&category1
Woohoo!! (Score:1)
The Wrong Powered Exoskeleton! (Score:5, Funny)
Cracking good cheese, Gromit!
Re:The Wrong Powered Exoskeleton! (Score:2)
(also oddly appropriate for slashdot...)
Re:The Wrong Powered Exoskeleton! (Score:4, Funny)
There's some good cheese up there, you know.
A few years? Sooner than that... (Score:4, Funny)
Ain't it Cool News had a story [aintitcoolnews.com] on this earlier. Looks like the title will be The Great Vegetable Plot and the director is shooting for a release 2 years from now. Here's to hoping it turns out better than Chicken Run, which just rubbed me the wrong way for some reason. *shrug*. I just can't make myself care about the well-being of chickens, which are so darn tasty. ;)
One Minute? (Score:3, Interesting)
But what I really want is Chicken Run 2!
Re:One Minute? (Score:3, Informative)
One Minute? (Score:3, Funny)
wrong thingy.
Re:One Minute? (Score:1)
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Re:One Minute? (Score:2)
I've not seen any of the new adverts on TV yet, but the press has got hold of it and there are advertising hoardings starting to appear featuring the three bird characters. The general style of the characters is very reminiscent of "Chicken Run", although there are three different kinds of birds, rather than just chickens. No doubt DivX versions will be coming to a web site near you Real Soon Now if they are any good.
details, details, details (Score:5, Insightful)
This isn't a live action version , is it? (Score:1)
NetNanny and this Article ... (Score:5, Funny)
As I read the last part:
"Park has now expanded the idea to make them into mini-movies where Gromit demonstrates the innovations, which include a high-powered cricket ball bowling gun and a toaster-cum-TV."
I had an idea. I ran to my daughter's room where her PC is protected by Net Nanny and put the url in. No go
Re:NetNanny and this Article ... (Score:2)
Re:NetNanny and this Article ... (Score:1, Interesting)
For those of you whose Latin is a little weak:
cum is a Latin word meaning "with". This specific example means "toaster that additionally is a TV", or "toaster with TV features added on". It's usually shown in italics to emphasize that it is really a foreign word. The Latin word cum rhymes with "broom" or "doom".
The common gutter slang word "cum", which rhymes with "come" or "dumb", refers to sexual climax. For details, see your friendly local porn web site; the word will likely be used heavily. Of course, if you have Net Nanny, you won't be able to look this up.
(If you read a college story about some person who graduates summa cum laude, does Net Nanny block that? Silly censorware.)
As a teenage lad, when I first encountered this word, I asked my dad what "cum" meant, and no I didn't just happen to guess that it was pronounced "coom". I did helpfully spell it, however. We happened to be in a crowded public place at the time. He instantly went spitting angry and told me to just shut up. I had to look it up for myself later.
nausiating (Score:1, Troll)
it'd also mean no film grain and these online versions would compress better. oh well, maybe ardman are just technologically impaired
oh, and the secret to why they're successful is the stories; not the animation technique[1], as pixar have always pointed out.
[1] see comparisons between shrek and final fantasy
Re:nausiating (Score:3, Funny)
(any Fast Show/Brilliant fan will understand :)
Re:nausiating (Score:5, Insightful)
Apparently there is some advantage, otherwise Nick Park wouldn't spend so much time working in plastercine.
I've seen "Wrong Trousers", I've seen "Final Fantasy". Both were created from a different medium (stop animation vs computer graphics). Both movies are great examples of what can be done with the medium.
But Wrong Trousers had a depth to the animation-- There were things going on in the background... the expression on the characters faces... the Pengiun was evil, and you knew it. My 2 year old Nephew knew it.
Final Fantasy was a fun and groundbreaking movie, but it lacked detail. Yes, their hair moved realistically, but the characters were cold, their expressions were hard to read, the background scenes were cluttered and hard to make out. The only reason I could tell that there was any attraction between the lead women & lead man was because of the dialogue. If the mute was on, I couldn't tell you *what* was going on. Not so with the Wallace & Gromit movies...
Comparing those two movies, I would say that there isn't much advantage to using computer animation over plastercine ! (not yet, anyways).
Re:nausiating (Score:1)
This is the proof Aaardman's genius. The penguin has no expression! No mouth! Nothing!
But when he is standing in front of the window rubbing his flippers together as Grommit leaves...
Or calmly whipping out the gun in response to Grommit's rolling pin.
Re:nausiating (Score:1)
***shudder*** evillllll......
Re:nausiating (Score:2)
Comparing those two movies, I would say that there isn't much advantage to using computer animation over plastercine ! (not yet, anyways).
I haven't seen Final Fantasy (just short clips in the previews), but I think a more fair comparison would be comparing plastercine in Wallace & Gromit to the computer work in Shrek. They have different looks, being different media, but both "work". Probably because they have good artwork, good animation, and good stories to go with them.
That said, Nick Park definitely has a gift in story-telling. I think if he were to work with computers, it would be equally compelling as his work in plastercine.
Which suggests to me the problem lies in Final Fantasy, not the medium...
Re:nausiating (Score:3, Interesting)
Scott McCloud discussed this phenomenon in his book, Understanding Comics.
Essentially, the more realistic the images, the less likely the viewer can really identify with or feel for the character in precisely the way that the artist wants. Too many distractions, too many subtle cues being converted into too many interpretations.
Whereas if the characters are rendered more abstractly, using simpler geometry, simpler facial expressions, fewer digressions from the message, then the viewer can empathize or identify with the characters very easily. The less it looks like someone else in particular, the more it could be you.
Re:nausiating (Score:1)
*Everything* is going on with subtle expressions, hints in the scenery, skillful editing.. which makes The Wrong Trousers, compared to Final Fantasy, the more skillfully crafted movie, ihmo.
The Wrong Trousers is quite simply one of the best pieces of animation I have ever seen.
Another impressive bit is "Next", from the Aardman Shorts collection, by Barry Purves. Simply incredible.
Alex
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Re:nausiating (Score:1)
Some people prefer low-tech to high tech; I personally think it would be far more fun to do it frame-by-frame.
What the?!?! (Score:2)
Ever wonder why... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Ever wonder why... (Score:3, Interesting)
Americans generally seemed to like/love Chicken Run, I'm sure they'd have loved Wallace and Gromit if they'd have had a chance to see them. As it stands, it seems you have to buy them on VHS/DVD to get to see them, a few maybe took a look after Chicken Run, but probably most didn't.
Re:Ever wonder why... (Score:2)
I first started watching them while working at Learningsmith (similar to Discovery Channel store and whatnot). They played them every day, and the strange thing was, I didn't get bored or want to strangle myself after two weeks.
Re:Ever wonder why... (Score:2, Interesting)
I was lucky enough to catch "The Wrong Trousers" on PBS (public television) along with a documentary on claymation film-making and the making of the short many years ago (it feels like 10 but it must not have been since it was only released in '93). I loved it and I still think its the best of the three, but it has always been a struggle to convince fellow adults to even watch it. Almost everyone that gave it a chance loved it, however.
Re:Ever wonder why... (Score:5, Funny)
I think that's the problem right there. In America, humour is humor.
Re:Ever wonder why... (Score:1)
so you're saying it loses something in the translation?
hmmm. as for wallace and grommit, everyone I know in america knows who they are, and most people have seen either the cheese holiday or the wrong trousers. among the kind of americans that like animation, wallace and grommit are well-known.
I think the problem is that animation is still frowned upon by the american mainstream. has the simpsons ever won an emmy for best comedy, even when it was the funniest show on TV? or do they just keep giving it emmies for "best voice characterization in an animated series"?
Re:Ever wonder why... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Ever wonder why... Don't forget Mr. Bill (Score:1)
Re:Ever wonder why... (Score:2)
I wonder though if it would have the same appeal if it had wider exposure. Part of the appeal of "cult" movies (& animations, and operating systems) is the feeling of exclusiveness. There is a sense of geeky cultural superiority - to know of and appreciate something of which most people are ignorant.
I just hope Feathers McGraw co-stars (Score:2, Funny)
"Everybody knows that the moon is made of cheese" (Score:1)
These cartoons are perfect for my family: great for the kids, great for my wife, and able to please the geekish sense of humor in me.
My 2-year-old and I rejoice (Score:3, Insightful)
How many things made today can you say that about? (Not a rhetorical question: suggestions please!)
Re:My 2-year-old and I rejoice (Score:2)
Besides, on a good day you get to play "Confuse the Goose"... [pbskids.org]
Cheers,
Ian
Re:My 2-year-old and I rejoice (Score:1)
Wow. That's so close to my own experience it's almost spooky. My daughter's favourite videos were the W&G trilogy from ages 2-4. She has moved on now, but still flips them in from time to time.
Ditto on the Arthur comment BTW - this is the only kid's show I find myself deliberately sitting down to watch when my daughter has it on. The story (as always) is the key - the writing is for kids, but it is never childish. Funny, insightfull, and pointed.
I've been wracking my brains to think of something else that's almost as good, and the one thing I've come up with is Playmobil [playmobil.com], which is one of the better (albeit pretty expensive) toy sets around. I honestly enjoy sitting down with my daughter and playing with this stuff. The quality and detail are amazing.
Re:My 2-year-old and I rejoice (Score:1)
today we watched a spider special on "wild discovery" nature shows are always good
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Shorts may be nice, but when will we see... (Score:1)
Re:Shorts may be nice, but when will we see... (Score:1)
Cool! (Score:3, Informative)
The Title is a Nationality Test. (Score:5, Interesting)
Would Americans get it? They have vegetable patches and Great Schemes.
Re:The Title is a Nationality Test. (Score:1)
Now's a good chance to run a naming competition. Let's see, "United We Stand, Divided We're Cooked", if they concentrate on potatoes and carrots they could call it "Tales from the Underground".
Re:The Title is a Nationality Test. (Score:1)
<flamebait>We ARE talking about Americans here.</flamebait>
Re:The Title is a Nationality Test. (Score:1)
The Philosopher's Stone is a legend most Americans (amongst others) apparently don't know about. But I think Scholastic (publishers) felt most people don't know about this and would be confused by the title (poor dears) and that would affect sales. I don't think it is an American problem so much as a commercial one - pitch sales to the lowest denominator - though Americans do seem to have invented this approach, certainly they excel at it.
Re:The Title is a Nationality Test. (Score:2)
cf. The Madness of King George, originally The Madness of King George III, but changed because of worries Americans would think they hadn't seen the first two movies, and Licence to Kill, originally Licence Revoked, changed because of worries that most Americans wouldn't know what "revoked" means.
Re:The Title is a Nationality Test. (Score:2)
Here is why. (Score:2)
toaster-cum-TV? (Score:2, Funny) [slashdot.org]
Wow, I didn't know a toaster could do all that! I mean, is that the greatest thing since sliced bread or what??
Sorry, couldn't help it. Seriously, is that some kind of British thing? Can someone translate?
Re:Here is why. (Score:2)
Re:The Title is a Nationality Test. (Score:1)
Re:The Title is a Nationality Test. (Score:1)
btw I passed.
So let me get this right.... (Score:1)
Hmmm, let me guess, get the CD-ROM on the cover of "PC Format", unlock the vac-o-matic episode by visiting dyson.com, bowl-o-matic at nike.com, TV-Toaster at sony.com, well you get the idea. I know they need to pay the bills, but it's a bit much to call them "freely available over the internet".
And how much you want a bet it's Windows only???
What about.. (Score:1)
Nick Park is a genius... (Score:3, Interesting)
That animation festival also ran Creature Comforts, which isn't as funny, but is its own form of genius: interviews with real people, immigrants from other countries about how they compare London to their home country. Nick Park then made up animations of zoo animals speaking the voices instead of real people. Unique. Unusual. Unforgettable.
For years after that, I looked for Grand Day Out on video tape, but it wasn't until the success of his later shorts that videos became available. Now there's little in my collection I treasure more.
Rock on, Nick Park, rock on!
--Jim
Pease please please (Score:1)
Please don't use sorensen codec on these. Give us a good, industry standard, MPEG1 file... Please?
toaster-cum-TV? (Score:2, Funny)
Sorry, couldn't help it. Seriously, is that some kind of British thing? Can someone translate?
Re:toaster-cum-TV? (Score:4, Informative)
This could then translate as "toaster with TV," and all the sexually active minds would stop.
What a notion!
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W&G Are A Riot... (Score:2)
Aardman and CGI (Score:3, Interesting)
I get where people come from when they decry the use of computers in animation these days - sometime I see the quality of 3D kids shows like Beast Wars or Max Steel and I feel like burning my computer in disgust - but the extreme crappiness of a lot of 3D animation is nothing to do with the tools, just a lack of creativity on the part of the production companies. CGI can be used to create stunning imagery [splutterfish.com] and animations [online.no], it's just a shame that as yet most of the stuff the general public sees on TV is just so bad...
Best thing I've read all day (Score:2)
Blummy Days!
For the record (Score:1)
Reindeer movie (Score:1)
Was it made by the same team?
Re:Reindeer movie (Score:2, Interesting)
Official web-site at http://www.comicrelief.com/other/robbiereindeer.s
Re:Reindeer movie (Score:1)
"It was directed by Richard Goleszowski, known for his Aardman work on the 1987 Barefootin' promo and the Rex the Runt TV series."
Re:Reindeer movie (Score:2)
It's available this year on Region 1. Great movie.
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Wallace & Gromit, Computer Game (Score:2)
Go to Marjacq.com [marjacq.com] and click on the "Developer" menu and then "Frontier Devlopments" to read about it. Not much information there except that they are working on it.
Aardman DVD (Score:1, Interesting)
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The Reason the /. crowd is interested in W&G (Score:1)
any oppinions expressed here in are not mine, but the product of me mixed with some booze
Re:The Reason the /. crowd is interested in W& (Score:1)
No, no, no, we love Wallace and Gromit alongside Monty Python because it hits a certain geeky funnybone in all of us. Encorperating everything from a dog rewiring remote control trousers to those infamous minute details of mice wearing sunglasses, it really cannot go unnoticed.
Plus if you think about it, "A Close Shave" could indirectly depict some of the dotcom wars around here (think of Wendy as Microsoft's PR and her robot dog as the rest of the company).
more detail (Score:2, Informative)
A particularly advanced example of this is the news paper in "A Grand Day Out". If you read it you'll find out about Feathers McGraw who is in The Wrong Trousers which was completed a few years later.
Also, in "A Close Shave" you can see Feathers Was Here written on the Jail cell that Gromit is in. It does seem that Feathers is perhaps one of the most exciting characters that was created.
Consider that it's a bowling ball but from the two blank little eyes you can tell it's evil and it doesn't even have eyebrows but when it rubs the flippers together you can sense it like the evil from Sauron.
Just a small other point, the hole in the eyes of the characters are so that the animators can put a needle in and move the direction that the eyes look.
Hope this has been interesting, informative, insightful and funny
Catch these Hidden Gems? (Score:1, Informative)
Chicken Run (Score:1)
their most known feature. W&G are short movies, and are funnier IMHO.
W&G digital (Score:1)
I love W&G and all the work from Aardman, almost bought is animal interviews, what's is name, yesterday.
one of the best things I ever saw... (Score:1, Informative)
The big thing there was that the movie was being 'scored' by a not-very-well-known post-rock-kinda band called de.portables [kraak.net]...
You should have seen it! It rocked like hell, timing was perfect for every scene, for every move... it was very emotional in the scene where Gromit was leaving, suspenseful when Wallace was stealing the diamond, and the train chase scene had to be seen and heard to be believed...
aardman should get in touch with these guys and let them score the vegetable plot movie!!!
But in the mean time, download some of their music (legally) from here [mp3s.com] and from the site mentioned above...
Aardman Portfolio (Score:2, Informative)
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HMMMmmmmm (Score:1)
Busy in the commerical industry (Score:1)
As much effort as goes into making one of these animations, they can really put out quite a bit. Glad to see the dynamic duo is coming back.
Re:The Real Question is.... (Score:3, Informative)
Feathers McGraw, as far as I recall.
Cheers,
Ian
Re:The Real Question is.... (Score:2)
Re:No W&G! (Score:1)
Try "Robbie the Reindeer in Hooves of Fire" for the clamation Santa...
Re:No W&G! (Score:2, Interesting)
seany
Re:No W&G! (Score:1)