Farscape Returns Tonight 148
Silverhammer writes "After a seemingly interminable winter hiatus, SciFi Channel's Farscape returns tonight with the first part (of four) of the Season Three finale. The 'Farscape Undressed' recap show starts at 8 pm EST, and the episode itself -- titled 'I Yensch, You Yensch' -- starts at 9 pm EST. Here is a spoilerific review." God
it's about time. Debatably the best scifi on TV.
Cooooool. (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Cooooool. (Score:1)
Re:Cooooool. (Score:1)
Re:Cooooool. (Score:1)
It's such a relief to have a show that very well written (and with good actors) AND gratuitous babes!
Mmmmmm... red hair chick in one hand, gray chick in the other.... In the immortal words of Joey (Friends), "Put your hands together!" hehehe
Cheers,
-Alex
Blinking 12:00 (Score:2, Funny)
Re:old news (Score:1)
I am just waiting for season 4. I was pratically crying after the damn season finale I was so pissed lol :)
Re:old news (Score:1)
Bout time.... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Bout time.... (Score:1)
-Alex
Re:Bout time.... (Score:1)
Re:Bout time.... (Score:1)
I still love that freaky ass episode with the "Amsterdam" of planets. heh. Dargo high on X (well, something like it). Woohoo! heh.
I am waiting for my friend to get his ass over here now, so we can resume out Friday night beer and Sci Fi!
-Alex
'Farscape Undressed' is a MUST (Score:5, Informative)
In addition, there is behind-the-scenes commentary with the producers and the crew. And the bantering between Browder and Black playing off one another is a hoot and a half.
Re:'Farscape Undressed' is a MUST (Score:1)
pretty well, so you have some idea what's going on.
Also the 3rd season is debatably the most interesting, so new people shouldn't feel tooo bad
about jumping in there
Re:'Farscape Undressed' is a MUST (Score:3, Insightful)
The show was okay - probably pretty good when you get into it (although the cheesy set of the battleship biomechanical ship evoked a "Hey, I think that's the arcade I used to hang out in in the 80s" from someone). Nifty aliens (which I knew), nifty costumes (which I knew), and okay dialogue and pretty decent acting. All in all, a show I would have no problem getting into.
But the "Farscape Undressed" almost made me not want to watch the show. HIDEOUS acting (what the *hell*... it looked like a few people doing high school book reports in front of the class) cheesy interaction with the Henson characters (either you're in character or not. Having the humans be their acting selves and the aliens be in character is jarring), and really nifty but ultimately uninformative seizure inducing quick flashes of nifty SFX does not an intro to a show make.
It looked like a fairly simple, very detailed plot (no giant leaps to follow, but lots of interesting little threads), but they tried to make it a semi-documentary, semi-in character discussion, and wound up with an incomprehensible mess. The writer and editor of it should be shot. I'd say I learned significantly more about the show by watching the episode than seeing unrelated action clips introduced by actors uncertain of what they were supposed to be playing.
Gah. As someone else put it - "It was a pretty neat show. That undressed thing, though - I wish I had that hour of my life back".
About the only defense it has is that it looked like it would be really cool to watch if you had seen all the shows - a really neat montage of the highlights. But for anybody who hadn't seen the show before (who is was theoretically addressing), it was utterly useless.
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Evan
sweet (Score:1)
have cable right now. but should be good for fans
of the show (in america) who don't go that route.
I haven't watched 3x22 yet, but the other 3 new
ones are pretty good.
Slashdot TV reminder (Score:1)
I can't afford to miss any episode that Chiana is in.
Mmmm.... Gray.... (Score:2)
Why such a long wait? (Score:2, Insightful)
Seems like they're doing themselves a disservice. These episodes aired in the UK about 2 months ago. That's plenty of time for the fans to find "alternate ways" of viewing them, rather than waiting the 2 months until they decided to air them in the U.S.
From what I've heard, Sci-Fi usually does this sort of thing to avoid competition from network television. Maybe I'm just overestimating the number of fans who were seeking the episodes out on the net rather than waiting for two months.
Re:Why such a long wait? (Score:2)
Yes, you are. I enjoy Farscape very much, but no television show is worth such contortions. Maybe when my television, my computer, and the 'Net are all one seamless "on demand" system (and we're getting there with TiVo), but not yet.
Re:Why such a long wait? (Score:1)
I haven't seen the episodes, though, so what I read was only hearsay. I can't find the post either (the board renders like crap in IE for Mac).
Re:Why such a long wait? (Score:1)
In fact, these were initially set to air in January which is how Scifi would have prefered it... but these things happen.
Re:Why such a long wait? (Score:1)
Re:Why such a long wait? (Score:1)
Usenet... (Score:4, Informative)
Cable offering woes (Score:1)
Andy
Re:Cable offering woes (Score:2)
Not only that, I've noticed a real loss in picture quality on the digital channels. Anytime the video goes through high-motion, you can see lots of crappy compression artifacts (reminds me of a really badly compressed CNN video).
"100% Digital Quality"?
I forgot where it left off... (Score:2)
I knew there were going to be new episodes sometime in April, but I didn't expect it this early in April. Just yesterday I figured I'd better go look and see, and was surprised to see that the first one is tonight (and relieved I didn't wait any longer to check, though I should have known slashdot would have reminded me).
damn them, damn them to hell.... (Score:3)
this message brought to you by the statements DUH and D'OH.
Re:damn them, damn them to hell.... (Score:1)
2. Farscape is science fiction
3. Nerds don't have lives
=> Nerds are going to be in on Friday nights.
Don't complain just because you're better off than the rest of us.
Re:damn them, damn them to hell.... (Score:4, Funny)
Is it just me, or does something about the above strike you as funny?
Re:damn them, damn them to hell.... (Score:2)
Re:damn them, damn them to hell.... (Score:2)
GTRacer
- Console Geek for Life - Viva DDR!
Re:damn them, damn them to hell.... (Score:1)
Play with daughter, put her to bed, read her stories until 9:30, wash dishes, watch Iron Chef with wife until 11, play quake with my nerd friends until 2. Nothing in that schedule worth moving so I can watch another goddamned TV show.
Not even the dishes.
-aiabx
Re:damn them, damn them to hell.... (Score:2)
Or maybe I'm getting on in age.
Re:damn them, damn them to hell.... (Score:1)
If Sci-Fi doesn't show the midnight encore, blood will spill.
I never bitched. (Score:2)
Unfortunately, being a geek, Farscape on Friday nights are just fine for me. Likewise Adult Swim Action on Saturdays. I'm pretty sure these networks, knowing their demographic and the competition on other networks for the rest of the week, are counting on this.
Re:I never bitched. (Score:2)
Re:I never bitched. (Score:2)
Re:damn them, damn them to hell.... (Score:1)
The first problem: some west coast cable companies use the east coast feed. Meaning Farscape came on at 5 or 6pm... That was how I ended up seeing it most of the time.
I moved to AT&T broadband, they use the west coast feed. So now Farscape is on at 9pm. I have not seen an episode since. WHO THE HELL WATCHES TV ON A FRIDAY AT 9pm!? I'm sorry, but just because I'm a Sci Fi fan does NOT mean I don't have friends and a social life to attend to.
Second problem: I can't keep up with all the time switches, all the weeks it's not showing, when it starts again, blah blah blah. Just show it consistently!!!
Re:damn them, damn them to hell.... (Score:1)
VCR (Score:2)
Farscape's Return? Bah.... Nero Wolfe coming back. (Score:1, Offtopic)
Nero Wolfe
Sunday, April 14th.
A&E
I'll be there.
Re:Farscape's Return? Bah.... Nero Wolfe coming ba (Score:1)
Nice to see heads firmly planted up a(r/s)ses (Score:1, Troll)
Look just a couple screens deeper and you find out that they're deeply involved in pushing digital rollouts and pay-to-view [slashdot.org], from the story posted an hour earlier.
Typical day at Slashdot, just like when you look see one story bitching about DVD encryption, DMCA and DeCSS followed by the next story about the latest geek-targeted DVD release (from AOL-Time-Warner or Sony) that everyone here has just gotta go out and buy.Excuse me while I vomit.
woof.
Re:Nice to see heads firmly planted up a(r/s)ses (Score:1)
Re:Nice to see heads firmly planted up a(r/s)ses (Score:2)
You need to read the moderator guidelines [slashdot.org], lobsterBoy. I gave up my chance to mod this thread by posting.
FACT: The previous story was about the push to move to digital TV in order to force pay-per-view.
FACT: Jim Henson productions is owned by one of the conglomerates paying legislators to force digital TV and pay-per-view on us.
FACT: People here bitch and moan about DeCSS and DMCA and then a couple stories later gush about some upcoming DVD release from AOL-T-W or a new toy from Sony. "BOYCOTT THEM... after I get my memory stick, that is!"
This makes me a troll? Bite me. You can't handle the truth.
woof.
I'm correct, just not politically correct.
Re:Nice to see heads firmly planted up a(r/s)ses (Score:2)
Realize that 'michael' posted the last story, and CmdrTaco posted this one.
FYI, these are two different people.
Re:Nice to see heads firmly planted up a(r/s)ses (Score:1)
SEE!?! SEE!?! You're in on the conspiracy too! You know, if Darth Vader can be looks dad too, perhaps CmdrTaco can be michael (an angel played by John Travolta).
You're in for some great episodes (Score:3, Informative)
I'm not going to give away too much, but you guys are in for a treat. The interplay between Crighton and Scorpius in the final episodes of the season is fantastic. I'd love to say more, especially about the role that Talyn and Crais play in the story, but doing so could ruin your enjoyment of the episodes.
Incidentally the BBC has a great Farscape web site (better than the official one) which you can find at http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/farscape/
This site includes an episode guide which has synopsis of the last 4 episodes of the season which you guys in the US haven't seen yet. The guide has plenty of spoliers - you have been warned. As well as the episode guide you'll find quite a few interviews (video and transcripts), and various other bits and pieces of interest.
The one minor annoyance though is that the season ends on a cliff-hanger. What's really annoying is it looks like you guys in the US will be getting season 4 before I do - the official Farscape web site says it will start on June 7th on Sci Fi...
Re:You're in for some great episodes (Score:2)
Re:You're in for some great episodes (Score:2)
True, but the scheming between Scorpius and Rygel in that restaraunt was even better; these two really should get more time together. And if there is a spin off series with Scorpius and Rygel thrown together of that standard I would be very happy indeed.
Farscape - I Yensch, You Yensch and other Episodes (Score:4, Interesting)
And don't ask me how I laid my hands on the final four episodes. *grin*
These eps are great! (Score:1)
Good Farscape, Bad Network (Score:3, Insightful)
The best thing about Farscape is the way it turns the typical white-man's-burden storyline on its head. The hero is the standard ruggedly-handsome, super-brilliant cowboy-astronaut, of course. But for once the aliens aren't with the program. They won't admit to his Obvious Superiority no matter how many times he saves the day.
It is hard to accept that anybody can fart Helium -- but that kind of absurdity is all part of the fun.
As for the scheduling idiocy -- well, I won't repeat my previous rant [slashdot.org]. Suffice to say this is class media monopoly stupidity. Farscape is supposed to be a key part of SciFi's strategy to convince people that they're a real network, not just a dumping ground for cancelled shows. That's why they ordered two seasons in advance. But that strategy won't work until they start showing their viewers some respect.
Re:Good Farscape, Bad Network (Score:1)
I think it's the humans who aren't with the program. Sci-fi (mostly Roddenbery) likes to pat humanity on the back, which is fine from time to time, but I think a far more likely circumstance is that humanity would be just another species. In Farscape, the lone human has some very important information that is vital to the two great powers of the galaxy he's stuck in, but most of that information was gained accidently. Otherwise, that human are just a dopey race that (understandably) doesn't know basic things about the galaxy around him, and has bad eyesight.
Note: One of my favorite lines is where Chrition says "My eyes are fine! I have perfect 20/20 vision, and they're blue!"
Fractures, or, what just happened. (Score:5, Informative)
The last episode was called "Fractures", and features a bittersweet reunion of the crew, who had been traveling separately for about 10 episodes, one group on Moya (the big ship you see in all the commercials), and the second on Talyn (Moya's son, a mutant ship with really big guns).
Why Bittersweet, do you ask?
Weeeell, it's not a _complete_ reunion, two of the members of Talyn's group don't make it back to Moya. First, Stark. For those who don't know, he's a recurring character who's basically a rather deranged humanitarian, and Zhaan's (the Blue girl...as opposed to the monochromatic girl) soulmate. The second character not to make it back is John Crichton. Wait! John? Isn't he a main character? They can't kill a main character! Whooa.. settle down there sparky. John was cloned in an earlier episode. Cruel plot device? Ratings ploy? Whatever. It worked, and created some interesting circumstances. Essentially, the John on Talyn who dies gets it all figured out. Unlocks the wormhole technology in his head (with some help), forces Harvey out of his subconcious, and even gets the girl (Aeryn). In the meantime the John on Moya is just as screwed up (He has a near-death experience in the LOONEY TOONS world, for Chrissakes).
So. The reunion. The John that Aeryn fell in love with is dead. Stark is MIA, and everyone is just plain unhappy. Aeryn's a mess, the John that's still alive is confused as hell.
To wrap up, John(1) left a message for John(2), explaining everything that happened with the wormholes, and the knowledge locked in his brain, etc.. and told him how close Scorpius is to figuring out how to control wormholes himself. So John(2) does what any good down-home hero would do and decides that he needs to stop Scorpius at all costs, and will go to his ship to do it.
Aeryn and Crais join John, and Fractures ends.
Until tonight...
All done Karma Whoring now...ENJOY!
Re:Fractures, or, what just happened. (Score:1)
Zhaan's (the Blue girl...as opposed to the monochromatic girl)
Now I normally don't care that much about TV characters - but the monochromatic girl, (wonderful description;), is a complete babe.
I try to watch Farscape sometimes, because I occaisonally see clips that look really good - but the whole set design is very dark, and the plots are sufficiently strange that I get confused.
In the end I have flashbacks to Babylon 5, which usually makes me stop watching ... :(
Re:Fractures, or, what just happened. (Score:1)
My life can now return to normal (Score:1)
Where should I begin? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Where should I begin? (Score:1)
While you could probably pick up the storyline without too much difficulty in the middle, there's lots of emotional build-up you'd be missing.
In other words, certain "aha!" events aren't going to mean anything to you.
Re:Where should I begin? (Score:1)
Re:Where should I begin? (Score:1)
Re:Where should I begin? (Score:1)
A Daewoo 5700 from World Gift Center [world-import.com] and a Amazon [amazon.co.uk] account UK style gets me up to the date Farscape in the US. It takes about 9 days from ship to show via mail.
Re:Where should I begin? (Score:2)
Should give you enough of a primer to follow the rest of the series. Then either try to catch the reruns as they air or buy the dvd's -- because while FU will bring you up to speed, nearly all of the episodes up to this point are just awesome and are definately worth watching.
Debatably? Yes! (Score:1)
I have to agree with that sentiment.
While Farscape is good, I have to say that I find Stargate: SG-1 much better overall. SG-1, while having some problems, has a much less soap opera feel to it.
Additionally, the science in SG-1 is (usually) a lot more grounded in fact than Farscape's is.
But then, that's just my personal taste in shows. If you like soap operas, and don't care about completely made-up "science", then Farscape might be a better show for you.
...but then, of course, everyone knows that the real best sci-fi show on TV is Invader Zim.
--The Rizz
"There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesome returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact." --Mark Twain
Re:Debatably? Yes! (Score:2)
Re:Debatably? Yes! (Score:1)
Oh, you mean like transporter technology? Screw Hiesenberg s uncertainty principle. Teleporting from a ship to earth is entirely grounded.
Yeah, that worm hole technology sure is bogus in Farscape's starburst, yet totally acceptable in SG-1's stargates.
Re:Debatably? Yes! (Score:1)
Yes, but the what I was refuting was that the show was the "best scifi on TV".
Now, the best fantasy show in a scifi setting? Yeah, I could probably go for that.
Also, the other problem is that it's not just the lack of realistic science I don't like. It's the soap opera feel to it.
Don't get me wrong, though - I like the show, and watch Farscape on a regular basis. I just don't think it's as good as Stargate: SG-1 (which, IMHO, has superior plotlines and writing).
--The Rizz
"Television is democracy at its ugliest." --Paddy Chayefsky
Re:Debatably? Yes! (Score:2)
Take your standard scifi show, say Star Trek (any series), in the majority of cases each episode starts fresh - the universe is more or less "reset" at the start of each episode and the things that happen in the episode very seldom have consequences flowing through the future episodes. Jump in anywhere in any season and pretty much you'll have no problem watching an episode and understanding why something is happening.
Farscape is different in this respect, in farscape when something happens in an episode - you can be sure that it will have consequences in future episodes.
For example, way back in series 1 John gets the gift of the worm hole technology from the ancients (appearing as John's father), and *this* triggers the whole John-Scorpius thing, if it wasn't for this one episode, this one happening, Scorpius would have no interest in John.
Now imagine this happening in say ST Voyager, I'd give it one or two episodes max before they get the technology out of his head and get rid of Scorpy, and the universe resets for the next story. Let alone that, when scorpy put's harvey in John's head - hell that would never stay in star trek, it'd be outa his head in a flash.
Farscape's character bvuilding is also much much better than almost anything, you really do see the characters develop over time, they grow up, they get depressed, they get angry, fall in love, fall out of love, hell they even go insane from time to time.
I guess it is a bit like a soap opera, but that's what makes the characters "real" to me. And it's the only scifi/fantasy show now or any time previous that has done that.
4-episode seasons? (Score:1)
P.S. Please, kill the screamer, immediately. What an annoying character.
Er, it doesn't. (Score:1)
This is the last four episodes of Season 3. They're just separated from the rest of the aired season for some bizarre profitmongering scheme by Sci-Fi channel. Either that, or SFC is trying to promote international file sharing of Farscape eps...
Don't worry, when the season ends, you'll know it.
Why on Friday and why so sporadic? (Score:1, Informative)
BUT if everything is in reruns, then there is a better chance that that Mr. Everyman might stop and watch the show.
That and, people have said, the people that watch Farscape regularly are of 2 types: those that don't go out on Friday nite anyway...and those that know how to program their VCR's to record the show while they are out. (or a combination therein).
Oh, and for reference, Farscape gets like a 1-2 share. Thats GREAT for SciFi - a non-cable network channel would kick a show off for ratings like that.
"Best SF show on TV" (Score:1)
Farscape Undressed.... Get the DVD's (Score:2)
The DVD's are a must for any true Farscape fan!
SciFi TV (Score:2)
If you enjoy sci-fi shows, I would recommend Cowboy Bebop on Cartoon Network if you haven't tried it already.
SciFi toons (Score:1)
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I'll debate that! (Score:2)
Sorry not trying to flamebait, but could someone please explain to me what the attraction to this series is supposed to be - I genuinely can't see it. It's like Doctor Who rickety sets with the muppets in space. As comedy, yes, sure, I get it, but serious sci-fi? What?
Re:I'll debate that! (Score:1)
must be just me... i typcially dont consider serious love stories where one of the two people dies to be much of a comedy...
Totally debatable (Score:1)
Lexx, on the other hand, is more classic SF, although all the recent "visit to Earth" stuff is a big yawn for the most part (though I did like the Dr Frankenstein working in the Morgue and the Dracula in Vampire castle themes - great homages).
Sadly, from my viewpoint, Farscape is an offense to classic SF, and at best could be termed Science Fantasy, whereas Lexx which is billed as Science Fantasy by many is undoubtably classic Science Fiction.
But that's just what some of us who've written this stuff think
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Re:Totally debatable (Score:1)
Look back at the mags and novels you have. I didn't say Hard SciFi, or even Hard Science SciFi, I said classic SciFi.
As an example, Frankenstein is the first SciFi ever. Anyone who writes knows that Mary Shelley expanded Jules Verne's pantheon - and if you haven't been to Nantes (France), and visited the Museum of Jules Verne, you're probably ignorant of the other writers who started everything as well.
Purity is in the eyes of the beholder. SciFi is in the eyes of the publisher and the writer. When you have sold a few stories, get back to me. Until then, you're just an uniformed AC who needs to audit a course at his local University on SciFi before he dares post.
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Re:Totally debatable (Score:1)
Regardless, while you may enjoy watching Farscape, it has far more in common with Fantasy, regardless of its future orientation, than it has in common with SciFi.
When you've actually received a check for your writings from a reputable SciFi magazine or received a book contract, you can criticize my opinion and I'll regard you as a peer on the subject.
And I've never majored in English, nor have solely college or undergrad qualifications.
Farscape, while entertaining, is not the best that TV has to offer in the realm of SciFi. It is surely better than many other shows branded SciFi, but it qualifies mostly on those grounds.
IMHO, Lexx is closer to the marks in this regards.
Re:Totally debatable (Score:1)
n.
A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.
Lexx is not based on speculative science, or any science, but it covers the rest. Really, scince fiction can fall under several catagories. Farscape is Sci-fi, just as much as Lexx is. I would definitely say someone associtates the level of science that is discussed in Farscape with science-fiction more then with Lexx, but they are both science ficiton simply for what they entail, which is space travel. Lexx leans on the fantasy side, but is not comparable to real fantasy shows like Smallville. I don't really know if Frankenstien is the first science fiction novel, or if it was even classified as such, but it involves science with fantasy (the abstract and obviously impossible machine which brings his monster to life). Although there is no basis in real science, it is still science fiction, and not fantasy.
Lexx's abstract science (the limited amount) does denote it's entrance into the science fiction catagory.
Re:Totally debatable, or is it? (Score:1)
It was pointed out to me at brunch this past Sunday that while I was correct in regards to timelines for publications (e.g. when they went to print), that in fact Mary Shelley preceded Jules Verne in terms of the date on which her story was written.
My humble apologies. While I may have been technically correct, the timeline does not accurately represent the literary history that occurred, as her story was read by others and may be argued to be the "spark" that started SciFi.
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Farscape!? YES I LOVE IT (Score:2)
Okay, the hot chicks are so kewell!!! and that stupid dorky boss they have is just dumb... oops, that's Baywatch
Okay, the robots are so funny, and that stupid dorky white guy just does not get his character... oops, that's MST3K
Okay, the hot chicks are in such good shape and wear tight stuff, strong legs are a real turnon for me, then that stupid dorky boss... oops, that is Pacific Blue.
Okay, the hot chicks always talking about sex and that one that is always wearing hot shoes, then there is the older one that is ALWAYS doing some sort of wild sex... oops, that is Sex and the City.
Okay, the hot chicks in the strip club and that big mean guy that is always having people killed... oops, that's Soprano's
Ummm, this show is on Friday night? Wait, I am usually out drinking then. Will have to build a DVR to figure out what you guys are talking about
Re:Farscape!? YES I LOVE IT (Score:1)
I think you meant Son of a Beach...
HoorAYYY! (Score:1)
:P
There was a conspiracy for the delay of Farscape (Score:2)
It worked on me.
Still more waiting for me (Score:2)
Freaking morons (a troll and a flame) (Score:1)
Why do morons over-produce web pages?
Same reason morons boy $300,000 home sterios. To make up for inadaquate penis size...
Farscape twists (Score:1)
In Trek, the Federation is a large military organization which spans many planetary systems and is run by earthling humans. On the whole, the Federation seems relatively benign along the shiny-happy-we'll-all-get-along-eventually idea of Roddenberry's future.
In Farscape, the Peacekeepers are a large military organization which spans many planetary systems and is run by humanoids who look EXACTLY like us. However, in their corner of the universe, they're the bad-ass megalomaniacal xenophobic overlords.
Considering the history of human nature, which iteration seems most likely to happen around here when we develop interstellar travel?
Re:(Only applies in America) (Score:1)
Re:Farscape is Sci-Fi's version of Crack (Score:2)
My only problem is that there are only 4 new episodes...
Season Four starts on June 7.
Re:Farscape is Sci-Fi's version of Crack (Score:2)
Re:end of the series (Score:1)
Re:..and what a pile of shite it is too. (Score:1)
Re:Farscape = The Muppet Show 4 Adults. LEXX OWNS! (Score:1)
What? Umm... Farscape is produced in Australia, primarily with Australian crew. Haven't you noticed that, for some reason, many of the aliens (e.g. Aeryn) have Australian accents?