The Myth of the Lone Inventor 297
Codex The Sloth writes "Malcolm Gladwell (who amongst other things, wrote "The Tipping Point") has written an article for the New Yorker claiming that the role of the lone inventor is over. The example of Philo T. Fransworth (the "inventor" of Television) who failed because (amongst other reasons) he didn't have the big resources of a company to allow him to focus on his innovations. The thesis is that it is rare to have a single innovation that makes a product workable and that getting all of the inovations together requires a (large) corporation. No doubt others feel different."
Lone inventors (Score:1)
Indeed, It's bullshit! (Score:2)
Television - Baird BTW, not Farnsworth.
Telephone.
Hovercraft.
Jet engine.
Pneumatic tyres.
RADAR.
Just some examples where individuals had such good ideas that they felt compelled to pursue them.
Large companies do not have inventions. The collective IQ of a large company is pretty damned low, for every bright spark, there's half a dozen PHBs making sure he doesn't rock the boat or upset the gravy train.
Where companies help is with continuing incremental development, marketing and sales of the initial idea, usually after it's already proven to have commercial applications.
It has to be said that Americans aren't really very good at invention anyway. It's the Scots especially and to a lesser extent, the English who are truly world class inventors.
Agreed but it's the same for all inventions (Score:2)
It was the same for the hovercraft, television, the pneumatic tyre, the aeroplane... All of them. People think that it takes a large corporation to invent things but that's not the case, it takes self belief and years of dedication but it can be done.
I'll even go as far as to say that the lone inventor is the only way truly world changing revolutionary technologies will appear. Corporations just won't risk money on the ventures and the mental straight jackets on governments are too tight.
Success doesn't come handed on a plate.
I believe it's true... (Score:4, Insightful)
Even though software programs aren't inventions in the normal sense, I think this is one area where individuals can still have a huge impact, although we're also seeing most large software projects written by teams.
what a bunch of crap (Score:1)
ANKOS was the work of a team -- not one person (Score:2)
I hope you realize that Steve Wolfram didn't do all that stuff in ANKOS alone -- as vain as Wolfram is, he still felt the need to list dozens of collaborators at the beginning of the book -- not to mention the well known falling out between Wolfram and Matthew Cook, who was reponsible for almost all of the work on rule 110, the most interesting discovery in ANKOS.
Fransworth? (Score:1)
Re:Fransworth? (Score:1)
Sheesh.
Human Knowledge Growth (Score:2, Informative)
Sure, one guy might have an idea, but it would take him years to get all the peices together - just determining if it's gonna work or not! (let alone actually manufacturing it, etc.).
Now, there are places where a good idea can make a difference immediatly - the internet being one of them. But even there, getting people to look at it requires resources...
Websuring done right! StumbleUpon [stumbleupon.com]
Re:Human Knowledge Growth (Score:2)
Um, that has been the case since before Thomas Edison. Pretty much everything he came up with took years to develop. And he wasn't working alone; he had a team working with him.
Single inventers can still invent, but it never was an easy process.
yea right.. (Score:1, Insightful)
Tell that to Linus Torvalds, Larry Wall, Bram Moolenaar, etc etc... The role of the lone inventor is still very much alive when it comes to open source software...
Re:yea right.. (Score:2)
If we all relied purely on the inventions of Linus Torvalds we'd have a cool piece of software that booted up and did sweet f-all... It would also be much more primitive than it currently is.
Linux (GNU/Linux???) is a shining example of collaborative invention. It is absolutely not an example of a lone inventor, you've been reading too much ZDnet my friend...
Re:yea right.. (Score:5, Insightful)
These three inventions were all made by Bell Labs. Bell Labs was supported only by the telephone monopoly, aka the biggest corporation in the world. I'd say that that is a far cry from a "lone inventor." What it once took a genius years to do, it eventually takes anyone no time at all. You understand the laws of motion (probably) and gravity, which is more than can be said of anyone living in the 12th Century. You can create new applications of those problems, but that doesn't make you the inventor of them. Even if you recast them and re-write them.
Re:yea right.. (Score:2)
The fact that these people worked at Bell is not surprising, since in their field it was an obvious choice to be working for Bell or some other few companies.
Joe Farmer would not have invented this one. Someone in the field had to do it, and these people had jobs.
Re:yea right.. (Score:2)
AWK was created by three people, Aho, Weinberger, and Kernighan; they happened to do this at Bell Labs.
reference [cam.ac.uk]
Ed was in fact based on an earlier program QED, written at Berkeley by Butler Lampson and Peter Deutsch. And ed itself was written by Ken Thompson.
reference [bell-labs.com]
UNIX, I will grant you, was designed by a 'division of bell labs'. But really, one out of three? That's a pretty low accuracy rate. I guess if you sound authoritative enough people will believe and mod up.
The names behind ed/qed and awk are some of the most recognized forces behind early development of computing systems. I mean, even the _article_ about qed was written by Dennis Ritchie. Perhaps not all _lone_ inventors, but there's not much difference for practical purposes between three and one.
Just because some things were created by people working for bell labs doesn't mean that they were created by the telephone monopoly.
Re:yea right.. (Score:2)
Wow, I haven't been flamed for a while. Thanks for the opportunity. AWK was designed by people at Bell Labs. That counts. As was UNIX. That counts. That is two, in and of itself. These people didn't just happen to be working by themselves in the same building. They were bouncing the ideas off of everyone in their department, no doubt. That lunch table must have been exciting.
I will admit that I had not remembered qed, and I gracefully cede that point.
In reference to your point that "there's not much difference ... between three and one." I obviously disagree. There is a difference between one student working on his own to make a kernel that he wants to use and three people working in the context of a department where they are creating a whole new system as a group, even if each individual piece was made separately. That's not a lone inventor, that's modularization.
Re:yea right.. (Score:2)
The point I was trying to make though (and hopefully I will present it in a less heated tone here) is that not much is truly created by a large corporation. You said that all these things were invented by Bell, the telephone monopoly. While it certainly can't be said that you are lying, I was just trying to point out that when you go look at the details, these things were just created by a bunch of individuals who had a neat idea, and happened to be in a position to implement it.
It is certainly true that they had bell's labs, resources, and the right environment. But I think this is different than really being created by a large company. There was no committee of faceless software engineers designing a specification before dozens of teams of programmers sat down and each implemented components which were then assembled. It was just a few people coding.
And you are right that there is a difference between one and three. I just think that the difference is nothing compared to the difference between either and 100, or whatever you might find behind the design team of a behemoth like microsoft word, which is the sort of thing that I envision when someone says that software was created by some company.
In fact I suspect even UNIX doesn't fall into this second category; I just don't know much about the details of its early creation.
I'm also not trying to claim that vi/linux/etc are original ideas, and neither are the three you cited, I would think. They're all solidly engineered programs, based on ideas that were not new then. I'm not even sure that the age of the lone inventor in its really idealized form (person in lab, no outside resources, no funding pressure, revolutionizing some field, etc) ever existed, but I certainly don't know my history of science well enough to debate that point.
But the era of people coming up with neat ideas (even if they're evolutions of older ideas) and happening to be in a position to have the resources to implement them, and doing so, in my opinion did exist, and probably still does.
I don't think it can be argued that the ideas behind UNIX/ed/awk became tied to bell labs. In fact, probably the only people who think of Bell labs when they look at, say, linux, probably have either been around for a while, or do a lot of unnecessary reading (me). So these people created or evolved ideas that moved out of the domain of the corporation that funded them, which is certainly something.
Re:yea right.. (Score:2)
That is irrelevant for a number of reasons, first all the UNIX guys were employed by Bell labs and had the resources of the lab there to assist them when they needed it. Without the computer they would not have done any programming at all - and in those days a computer cost $250K +++ which was a lot of money then.
Moreover Ed did not invent the concept of an editor, it was no more than an implementation of what had been a well established concept for ten years or more. It may look today what someone would produce as a prototype, but even then it was not novel.
There probably never was a true age of the lone inventor. Even Stephenson (1st commercial steam engine, winner of the Rainhill trials) had a large support staff. Edison invented a few things on his own but was much more effective after he set up his research lab.
Hopefully the age of the lone inventor is over, if someone has the talent and imagination they should be able to find funding today. At the very least there is the Internet which provides an unprecedented support network.
The lone inventor ideal is pretty much like the ideal of the 'amateur athlete' which really boils down to a pretty snobish view that sports should be reserved for the elite classes rich enough not to have to work for a living.
There is certainly a sense in which there might be a return of the 'lone' developer. Whereas doing cutting edge research used to be largely restricted to people with access to first rate academic libraries and lab facities the low cost of computers and the Web mean that the institution you are at counts for much less. And windfall profits from dotcom IPOs mean that quite a few folk can choose to give up the day job.
Even so, most people who are inventive would prefer to have the resorces available to them as the Chief Scientist or CTO of an Internet startup than try to do it absolutely on their own.
Manjusri Effect: Collective Genius(was yea, right) (Score:2, Informative)
Re:yea right.. (Score:2)
I'd argue that Perl is a much greater leap than the other two. Linux basically is just an Open Source version of UNIX (though I know it pains many young 'uns to admit this), and vim is vi with some extra features. But Perl was fundamentally new in many ways, unless you want to get into one of those "all books only have seven plots" discussions.
Of course while Perl may have initially been created by Larry Wall, dozens and dozens of people have had a hand in it since then.
Re:yea right.. (Score:2)
In what way is Linux an invention? If anybody invented Linux it was Ken Thompson when he invented UNIX, and even that is giving too much credit to Ken because UNIX borrowed many concepts from other systems.
Ken Thompson works for AT&T.
Re:yea right.. (Score:2)
WTF is an inventor? This is an essential element of the author's topic that can have numerous meanings and the author never clarified what the term meant in the context of the essay. Had it been a piece of fiction, I would overlook this, but the paper is clearly intended to be read as an essay based on research.
He gets a C minus and I'll allow a re-write in the next week, but he can only go up one letter grade if he successfully completes the re-write and has it published in the New Yorker.
And Filo Farnsworth, please! That's one particularly weak example to be drawing such an enormous and vaguely stated conclusion from. I'd like to see Farraday and Bell's achievments belittled as well if the goal is to simply lash out at the notion of technical creativity. But if you're going to go that far, perhaps you ought to read a bit of Nietzche and Sartre and get a better feeling for the Nihilist tone.
They would not agree with you (Score:2)
What would Larry have done without standing on the shoulders of Kernighan and Ritchie [bell-labs.com] (for C), Stephen Bourne [ualberta.ca] (for bourne shell) and Bill Joy [pdx.edu] (for C shell) ?
What would Bram have done without standing on the shoulders of Bill Joy [pdx.edu] (again, for original vi) ?
Software is the most proeminent example of a field where invention results of an incremental and collaborative process. There are brilliant individuals, but they are definitely not "lone inventors" - letting aside the fact that Kernighan, Ritchie, Bourne and Joy were all working in the Bell Labs...
not how it works in my family (Score:3, Interesting)
www.karadon.com (an invention/corporation that was built from an idea facet of one of his previous successful inventions)
www.geocities.com/spdrcrn1tr0/protot
not to say i haven't developed a number of items as well. screw the corporations, do it yourself
Hacking is human nature (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Hacking is human nature (Score:2)
James Dyson too, idolised. Let alone the fact that designing a better vacuum cleaner nearly cost the guy his sanity.
No, inventing, fsck it. Risk absolutely everything you have - money, house, marriage, friends, sanity - for a one in 100,000 chance of "the big time".
Poor inventors. Very tired, very unloved and more likely than most of us to die pennyless.
Dave
Hydralic Rams (Score:3, Informative)
I'm not surprised that not many people remember it. What you have described is a hydralic ram, which was invented by the Montgolfier brothers (of ballon fame) in 1793. See here [cat.org.uk] for the details.
Ha (Score:4, Insightful)
Big corporations don't invent anything, and the worst place in the world for an inventive, brilliant, highly intelligent and competent person (like an inventor) is a stultifying, closed-minded, skeptical, gray, dull bureaucracy (like a big corporation). Nothing will take the joy out of invention like having to appease a bunch of self-serving arrogant skeptics.
The days of the lone (or small group of)
inventor(s) is just beginning. What about Linux, for example? Come on. This can't be serious.
The day we hand over the responsibility for progress to middle management is the day we better start preparing for a stagnant society.
Re:Ha (Score:3, Informative)
True enough. Inventions occur through individuals solving problems.
and the worst place in the world for an inventive, brilliant, highly intelligent and competent person (like an inventor) is a stultifying, closed-minded, skeptical, gray, dull bureaucracy (like a big corporation).... What about Linux, for example? Come on. This can't be serious.
Yes, what about Linux? Linux is a good example of why your argument is wrong. Linux is not an invention - in fact it is a copy of an invention that occurred in a very large company.
You are making a grave error if you think all large corporations are gray, dull bureaucracies. Many large corporations in fact supply wonderful environments that spawn incredible creativity and technological progress by their employees. AT&T, for example - Bell Labs (transistor, laser, Information Science, UNIX etc. is a classic example of a corporate environment that was successful in spawning innovation). Other companies have gone through periods where they have succesfully fostered great creativity - DuPont and it's development of synthtic fibers, Texas Instruments and IC's, and so on.
The fact is that good corporations realize that invention can be a great contributor to their growth, and some of them actually grow through that route.
Oh, and individuals often have families to raise, so that a steady wage while they are doing their inventing can look pretty good.
Re:Ha (Score:2)
Really? Think it would have happened if it had to be run past middle management and had a "business case" made for it? Free hint: no. What was there prior to Linux that would qualify as its equivalent? If nothing, then it is an invention.
You are making a grave error if you think all large corporations are gray, dull bureaucracies. Many large corporations in fact supply wonderful environments that spawn incredible creativity and technological progress by their employees.
Well, goody for them. By and large, corporations exist for the express, exclusive purpose of providing middle managers a paycheck in exchange for obstructing and firing people.
By the way, most of your examples happened 30 years ago. These days, getting a company to stop hoarding money long enough to actually make progress at anything is the exception at best.
a steady wage while they are doing their inventing
That's even funnier than the article. What "steady wage?" You're kidding, right? Hundreds of thousands of people are being laid off every year, most for nothing more than doing a good job.
Re:Ha (Score:2)
You've clearly got selective vision here. IBM has made tremendous strides in semiconductors and magnetic storage over the past several years. Bell Labs continues to come up with chips that improve the quality of digital phone conversations (eliminating the "lag" and "echo" on overseas connections). Pharmaceutical companies continue to generate some impressive innovations in drugs to treat cancer, diabetes, aids, etc.
That's even funnier than the article. What "steady wage?" You're kidding, right? Hundreds of thousands of people are being laid off every year, most for nothing more than doing a good job.
And unemployment continues to be at the lowest historical level coming out of a recession.
Given your obvious bias, you're really lacking in credibility here.
Re:Ha (Score:2)
Notice how every single reply uses the same two examples?
Mid-size employer Inc. doesn't invent things, and they certainly don't allow their employees the time or the incentive to either.
And unemployment continues to be at the lowest historical level coming out of a recession.
Tell that to the half-million out of work programmers. The $8.50 an hour grocery store/bookstore/restaurant job doesn't pay the mortgage. Unemployment doesn't count people who have given up looking either.
Given your obvious bias, you're really lacking in credibility here.
lol Certainly can't have a *bias* or anything. I never claimed to be objective. I can tell you I have not ONCE seen a "corporate" job where inventiveness or creativity was either encouraged or rewarded.
Re:Ha (Score:2)
Ridiculous (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Ha (Score:2)
I interpreted to author to be stating that big corporations are the best place to grow inventions and bring them to fruition. But not the best place to actually do the inventing.
As stated in the article, Farnsworth got his big idea while working in a potato field. After forming his idea, the article states he should have gone to work for RCA.
To me, this makes sense. Yes it is possible to grow your inventions on your own (go it alone), but it is really really hard.
There are successes. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos (tbd), to name a few. But the combination of inventive genius and business talent is very rare indeed.
The corporate world is littered with dead companies which have tried to do just that.
Netscape? Dead and mostly gone.
Napster? Swallowed by the big boys.
Linux? Do you think it would be going anywhere without Red Hat, Caldera and other like corporations.
Re:Ha (Score:2)
Linux is simply a version of UNIX, and UNIX was created by a large corporation: Bell Labs. It could easily be argued that UNIX would never have been written in the first place, had some brilliant people not been able to work on it full-time. When you have the funding to make something your day job, you can get a lot more done than working late nights and weekends.
Re:Ha (Score:2)
Many one man inventions still to come... (Score:3, Funny)
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In other words (Score:2, Funny)
Thanks for spoiling it all Chris!
The Article Is Silly (Score:2)
Re:The Article Is Silly (Score:2, Funny)
The myth of the inventor of TV (Score:2, Informative)
True, but collaboration != corporation (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:True, but collaboration != corporation (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:True, but collaboration != corporation (Score:3, Insightful)
just free implimentations of a non-free product. The GNU manifesto is all about creating Free versions of closed source pieces of software. That
is hardly inventing a product.
This is true, but one could argue that the GPL is a remarkable invention. It was done by a lone inventor, and it hardly "stood on the shoulders of giants" as the original post implied (he was talking about the software, though). One might say that it stands on the shoulders of the giants who created copyright law--I would say that it's an elegant hack of the system, but, whatever. I think it's a very interesting invention.
There are two parts to the problem (Score:5, Insightful)
Second you must have the manufacture/ marketing/ sales etc. This is the bailiwick of larger corporations.
This has always been the way. Edison made such an impact because with his first small successes he built a corporation which could produce and market other more marginal products. Tesla, on the other hand, had some (literally) world-shattering ideas, but as he didn't have a large corporation of his own, he had to go cap-in-hand to people like Westinghouse and Morgan to get the funding to develop his ideas. (Yes, Tesla did start several companies to develop specific concepts, but they were all small, specific and all failed for one reason or another. If Tesla had had all the resources of Westinghouse at his command, rather than at petition, who knows what toys we would have now?)
This is not to say that Edison was a better inventor than Tesla (many would argue that Tesla left him in the dust as far as raw imagination and engineering skills went), but Edison had the marketing skills and business sense which enabled him to do more with what he had.
You will, I think, find this pattern in all revolutionary inventions over the last two-hundred years. The inventor was
You will probably find that the discoverer of the Blue Laser Diode was working with a corporation, and could make a deal with that corporation to produce the diodes. He could not have done it on his own. Similarly with the Clockwork Radio, IIRC the inventor used funds from the UN to start a company to produce these radios.
Re:There are two parts to the problem (Score:3, Interesting)
Second you must have the manufacture/ marketing/ sales etc. This is the bailiwick of larger corporations.
Why must I have these things? To be successful? I think not. The only reason I can see for these (especially marketing) is for other people to profit--and then it is they, not I, who must have them.
Consider, for example, when I play piano. I do not have a recording contract, there is no marketing, and I don't care. Why? Because I have a darned good time and that's the reason I do it. Now, if someone wanted to make a buck off of my piano playing they'd have to spend a pile on marketing (as anyone who's heard me can attest). They would need the resources of a large corporation, but I don't.
-- MarkusQ
Re:There are two parts to the problem (Score:3, Insightful)
I took 'success' to be how much the invention has been used in the real world, and how much influence it has had on people's lives. Tesla's AC generator technology was successful. Everyone who uses electricity from a power plant owes a debt to Tesla -- and to George Westinghouse who financed the development and installation in the first large scale central power plant. Similarly for the electric light bulb, or the Transistor. Other ideas Tesla had, such as wireless transmission of energy, have not been successful; not because they were bad ideas, but because Tesla could not get anyone with enough resources to bring the idea to market to give him enough money.
Babbage and his Difference Engine is another example. His idea was brilliant. Its execution was excellent, given his resources. That you can read this message is proof that the concept was sound. But. It was not until large organisations -- namely governments -- were convinced that they needed computers were enough resources brought into play.
My point is, I suppose, that life is not fair. An invention's brilliance is not the only factor in how much of a difference it makes to the world. For a sufficient impact, there must also be a large enough mechanism to develop, market, produce and ship the finished product. In the example of your piano playing (which isn't really relevant, but what the hey) you are absolutely correct that you do not need a large corporation to write new music, or to enjoy doing so. But if no-one else hears that music then it will die with you. Recording and distributing that music requires more resources than any of us have, unless you are using the net to distribute MP3s, and even then it is you and 1 billion other people. You are not likely to be noticed, and hence you are not likely to make any impact on the world, unless you enlist the help of a large organization or company in some way.
It's not fair, but it's how it is.
Re:There are two parts to the problem (Score:2)
I took 'success' to be how much the invention has been used in the real world, and how much influence it has had on people's lives.
Whereas I take success to be how much the invention served the needs of the inventor. People seem to have gotten the idea that lust-for-fame is the mother of invention, but I still hold that necessity is the true source. I invent something because I need it. If the invention removes / fixes / fills the need, it worked.
Several times over the course of my life I have seen the following story played out:
End result, almost everyone involved is worse off, and older, than they were when it all started. And why? Beats the hell out of me.If you want to change the world, find a problem that you care about and can fix with your own resources. Fix it. Repeat as often as you like. That is how the world gets changed.
-- MarkusQ
Re:There are two parts to the problem (Score:2)
As for your model of how the world gets changed, I would say you're sorrily simplifying it, and ignoring the impact of organizations on innovation & invention over the past 100 years.
Have a cigar boy, you're gon'a go far (Score:2)
There's nothing wrong with your perspective to invention, but one thing to note is it appears you're going for the "bleeding heart inventor" approach, which is to say that you don't care if you profit off your invention, which is fine, but when it's introduced to the wider world it's almost certain if that others WILL profit from your idea instead of you.
I don't see why this point is so hard for everyone to grasp:
There is nothing "bleeding heart" about wanting to meet your goals and not worrying over other people's get rich painfully schemes. Getting sucked into a dream of acquiring "wealth" I don't need by pushing my invention on people who don't want it on its merits and have to be "marketed" to is about as profitable to me as getting hooked on heroin would be. (Which, I might add, is more than a metaphore in some industries.)Here is a major clue: life is a blast, if you take the time to live it instead of always trying to "succeed" at near impossible goals that weren't your in the first place.
As for your model of how the world gets changed, I would say you're sorrily simplifying it, and ignoring the impact of organizations on innovation & invention over the past 100 years.
The images pumped to us by "the market" would tent to agree with you, but in my personal experience the individuals with a passion for what they are doing come first and then, if they succeed, history is rewritten by whoever has the biggest megaphone. As one friend of mine quiped, he worked seventeen years for the pure joy of doing what he loved, only to becpme "an overnight success" when he finally got funded by people who then made his life hell. When he left the company that he had "founded" to go back to actually enjoying life, the company's story was that he'd "burned out". He couldn't care less.
-- MarkusQ
Re:Have a cigar boy, you're gon'a go far (Score:2)
If you don't care, that's fine.
As for your second paragraph about "images pumped by the market" telling me what to think, I believe you really haven't read much history....
Re:Have a cigar boy, you're gon'a go far (Score:2)
As for your second paragraph about "images pumped by the market" telling me what to think, I believe you really haven't read much history....
You would be mistaken. If you recall, the point in question here is:
Looking at history I mostly see ventures carried forward by individuals, small groups, or organizations headed by the same. I also see projects that rose or fell on their merits, rather than on media blitzes and cold calling campaigns. It is possible that in my reading of history I somehow missed the copious references to large corporations with sales and marketing budgets in ancient times. Could you please point them out to me?-- MarkusQ
MQR is still growing up (Score:2)
You must be a teenager still living with mommy if you don't see the reason for marketing. Wait until you grow up and enter the real world.
*laugh* I still remember how anoyed I was the first time I wasn't carded. It was in the 1980's.
But I guess I'm still among the very young at heart.
-- MarkusQ
Re:There are two parts to the problem (Score:2)
Am I the only person who thinks in a hundred years people will be having the same conversations about Bill and [Linus|Steve|Richard|Eric], that we're having about Tesla and Edison?
Re:There are two parts to the problem (Score:2)
That's not what happened. Edison had been an inventor for ten years before the light bulb, mostly working on improving the telegraph. He had already established several partnerships and corporations. See this chronology [rutgers.edu].
(His 1875 deal with Jay Gould, $30,000, would be worth roughly $4.5 million today.)
....came up with the electric light? (Score:2)
Yhere was a pretty free market in electronic ideas at that time (see also the thermionic valve/tube) so drawing conclusions about the critical nature of a particular individual or team regarding these innovations is problematic, despite what the textbooks would have us believe.
Farnsworth RULES!!! (Score:3, Interesting)
Farnsworth is a poor example to use for this subject. He DID invent television mostly by himself without the benefit of a large corporation. What he didn't have as an individual was reasonable protection from RCA, whose goal was to monopolize the airwaves at all costs. When they couldn't buy him out, they harassed him with lawsuits and propaganda campaigns that repeatedly told people that RCA brought them TV. The real problem with lone inventors is that "those who have the gold make the rules". Few people, until recently, ever heard the story of Philo Farnsworth.
Another cool fact about Farnsworth is that he developed a working fusion device, called the Farnsworth fusor. It doesn't even come close to breakeven, but it does produce neutrons consistently.
Re:Farnsworth RULES!!! (Score:2)
What's strange here is Sarnoff's thing for "...the best engineers out of the best universities..." considering his own start as a penniless immigrant working as a radio-telegraph operator who just happened to be in the right place at the right time--he was on duty when the Titanic hit the iceburg and stayed on duty around the clock for a day or three relaying messages to, from, and about the sinking and the rescue efforts. Horatio Alger could have written his story. Seems he'd have a greater regard for "rugged individualists", but apparently not.
Sarnoff Lied (Score:2, Interesting)
Leaps and Bounds... (Score:2)
I resemble that remark [geocities.com] not to mention some other guys I know [technicalpursuit.com] (search for "javasoft" for some humorous anecdotes).
Our heroic New Yorker author, with a single leap, bounded right over duos like the Wright Brothers and Atanasoff and Berry [ameslab.gov] as well as small hunting packs like Id Software [idsoftware.com] and small tribal clans like the Seymour Cray 34 [geocities.com].
There is no such thing as the lone inventor (Score:2)
Lone inventor not extinct.....lone legal team is.. (Score:4, Insightful)
Lack of a lone inventor is not the problem with the system. There are a lot of people today that can focus on a product and develop it. Having a big staff is not the issue, and sometimes it actually slows development. It's simply that the lone inventor is having trouble getting past the legal flacks of big business who throw down slap suits, suits designed to suck off your cash, suits designed to "discover" all of your company info through the legal process of discovery, suits to hold you in court while they come up with a product, suits to determine where your bank account is so that they could sue you there......
Corp. Flack to boss: "How many thousand lawyers do you want me to drop on company X today boss?"
Boss: "Enough so they never come back!...I want those basterds!...send all we got!"
This method of operation is being used to hunt the "lone inventor," so that disruptive technologies do not emerge to threaten the giants. They have people dedicated to keeping the walls of the empire safe, that's the advantage of being big.
What Mr. Farnswort lacked was the equivelent legal firepower of the MPAA and RIAA.....could you imagine his lawsuits against RCA?...He would have ended up owning the company....but RCA's lawyers combined with the unfortunate timing of the WW2 means that Mr. Farnsworth is simply out of time to collect on his invention. The big guys stole his stuff and stalled out untill the penalties were meaningless.....sound familiar?
Now....flash forward to todays system.....all of the corporate giants not only have lawyers that they could para-drop into any courthouse across America, but they have the DMCA to make that "taking" of private invention all "legal"...think of Sonic Blue's situation....being forced (I know that it was reversed later, but principle) to collect information for the MPAA about their customers.....I know, I can hear the cynics, "It's all legal though, gotta be, it was decided in a court of law, right?"
Until the "lone inventor" can defend himself in court on the merits of the case rather than the cash onhand, he will always be hunted....
Legal reform for this problem made simple: The loosing party pays ALL legal expenses for ALL parties!....just think...no more nuiscense suits, no more extortion by the big guys because I could get the BEST defense on contingency by the BEST professional who would WANT to help me defend my position! He wins, he charges plaintif company X whatever he wants (huge is fine with me!). Contingency has done wonders for the plaintif lawsuit market, perhaps by making legal defense profitable, we can reverse the trend!
Re:Lone inventor not extinct.....lone legal team i (Score:2, Interesting)
Loser pays? (Score:3, Interesting)
Quoth the poster:
Legal reform for this problem made simple: The loosing [sic] party pays ALL legal expenses for ALL parties!....just think...no more nuiscense [sic] suits,
While this might sound like a good idea on the surface, it would in fact have a devastating effect on the justice system. Even the most seemingly ironclad lawsuit is a crapshoot when taken before a judge. Law is a game of subtleties and minutiae; further more, it is inherently subjective. The mere fact that claims are contested is evidence of this: a case that seems airtight to a plaintiff is scoffed at by the defendant. The judge listens to the arguments as presented by each side (in effect, making the skill of the argument part of the case, for better or for worse), and renders his decision based on his legal training, precedent, his experiences, his ideology (again, for better or for worse), and a whole host of other factors. These factors introduce an element of chance into the proceedings, an element which one cannot discount.
What does this mean? It means that even the most solid case, argued by the most skilled attorney, can be lost. Now, if you make the loser pay the legal fees for both sides, then you are putting a potential plaintiff in the position of having to pay legal fees on a case that may have been perfectly legitimate, but cursed by bad luck; this problem is compounded by the fact that with the loser paying, both parties would have incentive to hire the best attorney possible: if a better attorney can win the case for you, and you won't have to pay if you win, then it is absolutely to your advantage to hire somebody better. This would inevitably lead to a chilling effect on lawsuits. While that may be viewed as desirable, the chill would extend not just to frivilous suits, but to legitimate suits as well.
Also consider enforcement: if Microsoft were found to be using code from the Linux kernel, and Linus decided to file suit against Microsoft, how would he be held to pay if he should lose? Would he be required to post funds in advance in escrow, in case he loses? How much should he post? Microsoft has quite a legal team. What if MS decided to hire additional lawyers, or specialists? Perhaps expert witnesses? Should Linus pony up every time they add a staffer to the payroll? If you institute a policy like this, quashing a lawsuit would be as easy as hiring everybody you know. The other options would be to make them pay afterward (what if they don't have the money), or require some sort of legal insurance (equally expensive).
Short answer is that, while it may seem attractive, having the loser pay the winner's legal fees, it would have dramatic negative consequences. A better idea, perhaps, would be to have a two-tiered system: bring your case before the court, the judge listens to the synopses. If your case fails a "straight-face" test, he can instruct you to pay the defendant's legal fees. If you pass the "straight-face" test, you move on to the trial court, and follow the current rules. This is, in fact, a derivative of the criminal system: before the trial, the prosecution must get an indictment. The indictment forces the prosecution to show some sufficient cause to believe that you committed a crime, before you go to trial. Incidentally, even now, there are some provisions for making the the loser pay the winner's legal fees; legal fees can be included in a judgement. This is just used semi-sparingly, to prevent the effects mentioned above.
Just for the record, I am not a lawyer, so feel free to correct me anywhere I missed a detail. My dad is, though (Oklahoma, Ohio, and Federal bar (USAF)), and we've discussed this at length. He's disgusted with the legal industry, too. :-)
Re:Loser pays? (Score:2)
Bah. (Score:2)
There are lots of great inventions spawned by only one or two people working in their spare time, and many of these grow into monolithic companies or worldwide phenomena on the back of that innovation. Many of these (Fed Ex comes to mind) were up against gigantic established players, and succeeded despite it.
So, the article is corporate self-congratulatory bullshit aimed at those who want to make a run at the establishment. Ignore it.
SoupIsGood Food
Re:Bah. (Score:2)
Really? I didn't know Steve, Steve and Mike invented the transistor. Oh, they didn't? Well, they invented the computer, that's not too shabby. Still wrong?
there's Larry Wahl, who just gave his wholly concieved invention away
Larry Wall invented the programming language?
Viable roles left for lone creators: (Score:4, Informative)
1. DSP research and development. I've worked as the student programmer for a 2 person DSP programming company that was actually successful. The owner, an experienced electrical engineer, was an astounding businessman, programmer, and scientist, who invented and ported sound technology to DSPs, and worked with larger companies on a freelance basis to put those DSP's into larger inventions. All while working at home after years in larger businesses. There's plenty of work out there to make the gadgets of future decades possible - but you have to do a lot of inventing and marketing to make it feasible, and be absolutely sure about each step. If you can't honestly explain exactly what you are doing, in a provable manner, to potential customers, everyone will get very frustrated. Be prepared for lots of legal work too. And be prepared for some insane assembly languages for dozens of different parts - for each new part, the language, compiler, and basic philisophy of the unit seems to change. If anyone can develop consistant tools for many parts between companies, and convince people to start using them, they could make lots of money.
2. Biotech and DNA technology development. Much like #1, but much more massive ammounts of legal work involved. The main thing is that, as much as possible, don't get involved in the touchy intellectual property-oriented areas. Instead, develop the tools which will allow others to study, graph, track, etc, various pieces of Biotech information. The easier and more consistant you can make the process of collecting information and organizing the information for medical researchers, the more they can get done, and hopefully, the more they will use your tools. You'll need to consider the equipment used in various experiments, the nature of the appropriation systems put together for research organizations, and how best to market your product. You can make deals with equipment providers (as long as you're not outright purchased this way), and get job satisfaction out of helping people develop ways to save lives.
Well... those are the two big ones I can think up off the top of my head. Anyone else with some other relatively open branches of computer science or electrical engineering? Any other great unfilled but potentially profitable needs that haven't really been getting companies attention?
:^)
Ryan Fenton
Re:Viable roles left for lone creators: (Score:2)
Also how would you suppose one could get the neccessary knowledge of how experiments are conducted/ data is gathered and what equipment is used?
The lonely inventor sometimes has an edge (Score:5, Insightful)
For a start, many of those working within the corporate machine have obtained their position as a result of a splended array of formal qualifications and their academic background.
Now, while such a background is extremely important, there are occasions when it actually makes the act of "inventing" an awful lot harder.
Some of the most interesting (and practical) inventions are the result of someone who didn't know (because they hadn't been taught) that something was impossible -- so they just went ahead and did it.
An unfortunate effect of gaining a depth of knowledge is that one's field of vision is often reduced as a result. Sometimes an important innovation comes as a result of applying knowledge gained in a totally different field to a problem.
It's been my experience that occasionally the "experts" get so close to the problem that they can't easily see the bigger picture -- a case of not being able to see the forest for the trees so to speak.
Of course the reality is that if "the lone inventor" does have a good idea, they're then left with no choice but to solicit the help of a large corporation and the resources that such an organization can bring to bear. There's usually a huge void between an idea or a working prototype, and a commercially successful product.
The inventor and his invention are just one piece of the puzzle.
Of course (as I well know), the biggest problem faced by many inventors, regardless of the quality or viability of their ideas, is getting the right "big corporation" interested enough to provide those missing pieces.
I shudder to think about just how many great ideas have never seen the light of day -- not because the inventor couldn't invent, but because (s)he simply had no luck in attracting corporate or investment interest.
Of course anyone wanting to invest in my X-Jet engine is welcome to contact me
Re:The lonely inventor sometimes has an edge (Score:2)
Mainly the military who are currently spending huge sums of money on gas turbine engines that get to run for a grand total of maybe two hours before the missile they're in hits its target.
Nobody much cares about how much noise a missile engine makes -- key criteria are cost, fuel efficiency, power to weight and reliability.
There's no way my engine will ever sit on the wing of a 747 or other passenger jet -- but it's clearly not designed for that role.
It *is* designed for a very narrow (but rapidly growing) market segment.
The cruise missile has become the offensive weapon of choice for the West and played a very significant role in both the Gulf war and Afghanistan.
Of course people might (and do) want to strap such an engine to a bike, ultralite or kart -- simply because it can provide more power per dollar than any other type of jet engine.
If you've every stood close to a turbojet engine when it's running, you'll also become very quickly aware of the fact that *all* jet engines make a hell of a lot of noise.
Don't forget that people also strap huge V8s with massive superchargers and open pipes producing incredibly large amounts of noise to their dragsters drag bikes too.
Re:The lonely inventor sometimes has an edge (Score:2)
It would also help if you can get your missile to go supersonic, then no matter how much noise it makes no-one is going to know it's comming...
If you've every stood close to a turbojet engine when it's running, you'll also become very quickly aware of the fact that *all* jet engines make a hell of a lot of noise.
Or you could fly in a 727 and sit near to 3 of them.
um, actually... (Score:2)
As they say on USENET, "watch your attributions"
Not surprising; look at the source (Score:2, Insightful)
This ran in the New Yorker. Of course it's going to advocate large corporations over individual inventors. Most of their readership are managers.
If Wired decided that they were going to run an article on inventors, do you think it would glorify the organization or the individual?
Stop the presumptious editorial comments (Score:2)
First of all, learn how to spel.
Second, explain why "large" should be parenthesized.
Third, please provide an iota of support for your forgone conclusion. Certain large scale enterprises require the cooperation of many individuals. This is neither insightful nor novel. That such cooperative ventures must manefest themselves in the form of a corporation requires a bit more than a leap of faith.
Farnsworth, the First Name in Television (Score:3, Interesting)
So Farnsworth didn't really have a commercializable technology. Worse, he got to the demo level during the Great Depression, a lousy time to get funding for a long-term R&D project.
It took RCA well over a decade to make television work commercially. It was hard to build a good TV camera tube. [telia.com]
If you look at the tube designs, you can see the problem. The image dissector had no light integration; only the light falling on the beam spot at the moment of scan was sensed. In other words, only one pixel time's worth of light contributed to the output signal. Farnsworth put in all the amplification he could, with a photomultiplier-like arrangement within the tube. But it wasn't enough.
Zworklin's Iconoscope integrated light over the whole frame time, but didn't amplify the output within the camera tube. That wasn't enough either.
It was clear that using both ideas together would help the sensitivity problem, but it took over a decade at RCA and elsewhere to make that work. Both approaches came together in the image orthicon, which was big, expensive, complicated, and required lots of support electronics, but delivered a good image. The sort of thing you'd expect from a big industrial research lab.
COMING SOON - How Americans invented the wheel (Score:2, Informative)
The Berlin Olympics were televised - German Technology.
About the same time John Logie Baird (a Scot) was conducting test transmissions in the UK - British Technology.
Come on guys, there's a big wide world out there, open your eyes, you might find there's something outside the USA of interest.
Re:COMING SOON - How Americans invented the wheel (Score:2)
Silly Americans!! Next they'll be claiming they invented golf!!
Re:COMING SOON - How Americans invented the wheel (Score:2)
Everyone who believes that "we in country X invented such and such" should take a good gander at the Pulitzer Prize winning _Guns, Germs, and Steel_. Great book.
Anyway, to wit: the ascendancy of any one culture/nation is not based on its ability to invent, but rather on its embracing of those new technologies.
C//
Re:COMING SOON - How Americans invented the wheel (Score:2)
American culture has historically had going for it a situational venue in which adaptation to "new stuff" has been resoundingly supported. Hence, "electric lights weren't invented here, but first adopted here." And "the motor and the automobile: not invented here, but made very popular here". If we lose this meme, we'll go the way of... well, the Arabs maybe.
C//
Re:COMING SOON - How Americans invented the wheel (Score:2)
Most Aussies arrived during the gold rush, not on prison ships. Cheers,
Re:COMING SOON - How Americans invented the wheel (Score:2)
PAL isn't perfect, by any means. Then the French wanted to do something different and came up with SECAM.
IIRC it was developed around the same time as the US developed NTSC, but provides superior quality, without the colour drift that NTSC suffers from.
PAL is effectivly NTSC V2. Whilst you don't need "tint" controls on PAL receivers, IIRC, it is worst than NTSC when it comes to colour fringing artefacts.
BBC Baird Standard System (Score:2, Informative)
There's much more interesting stuff on this page, including a history of Phonovision [dircon.co.uk], Baird's attempt to record his television experiments;
and information on the earliest known recording of broadcast television [dircon.co.uk], which dates from 1933, incidentally somewhat earlier than the Berlin Olympics broadcast in '36...
Granted, we now use an electronic system for television, but where would we have been without the analogue version?
Interrobang, graverobbing dead media since 1996
claim for a new evolutionary step (Score:2)
The reason given (or one of them) is that individuals are subject to things like harassing lawsuits and the inability to concentrate on the work of inventing due to distracting influences- which is to some extent self-fulfilling, because you are talking about demands placed on the individual by a governmental judiciary system that is equally available to individuals and aggregates.
It's a bit like spam: if aggregate entities can have (or evolve) parts (lawyers) solely to attack and cripple the progress of individuals, then this criticism of the 'lone inventor' becomes absolutely unanswerable: by definition it becomes impossible for an individual to stand against aggregates because it's far too simple to immobilize an individual with harassing lawsuits. The only hope for an individual in this situation is to be assimilated or to 'fly under the radar' doing things that may contribute to society but won't be identified as mass market 'inventions' and fought over.
We may be seeing just this sort of issue arise with Linux and Free Software in general: this type of cooperation among unrelated individuals flew under the radar for some time, and now Microsoft strongly wishes to destroy it, and has taken steps (shared source licensing) to outmaneuver it: it is possible that the only counter to this will be another sort of aggregation, the definition of an 'open source community' inclusively as its own aggregate, and the using of this to fight defensive actions. At the very least, it's become necessary to take on aggregate threat appraisal, as seen on places like Slashdot. If everyone had to make their own judgement call on things like Microsoft's viral shared source licensing, with not everybody equally able to identify dangerous legal points or refer them to a lawyer, how easy would it be to neutralize the entire Free Software movement and place it in a position of awful legal liability and vulnerability? It's been necessary to have a way to get the word out about such things, and this in itself is a form of aggregation.
I suppose the question to be asking is, what FORM of aggregation is needed? Something like Microsoft or Enron is only one form of aggregate entity. It doesn't have to be that way- in fact it could be just about any way imaginable, because these things are a combination of natural social forces (tempting to get into 'psychohistory' here!) and legal frameworks defining what such an aggregate is and what its goals, needs, defining qualities are.
This latter cannot be accepted as a fait accompli: the legal frameworks must be subject to re-appraisal in the event that we ended up defining an aggregate entity with about as much future as cancer. It's quite possible to define such a thing with self-destructive, unsustainable qualities, and to set it free and let it rage and burn out. And there's enough of that about: the next level needs to happen, now.
There are always new ideas and new solutions (Score:3, Insightful)
An example is automotive cooling systems. For the majority of the last century to water flowed through in the wrong direction. The cold water came in through where the oil was kept, then the warmed water flowed around the cylinders where everything is hot. Now you want your oil to be nice and warm so that it will flow well and cover everything, and you want the rest of the engine to be kept cool so that pistons don't get stuck and other high temperature nastyness. The reason the water flowed the way it did was simply because that was the way water flowed with gravity feed, but for nearly a century after the water pump was introduced into the system the water flowed the wrong way.
There is always room for innovation. Even very simple systems can sometimes do with a tweak. The role of the lone inventor is not over, as shown by such people as the guy in Thailand that is making spherical fire extinguisers that you operate by rolling them into a fire.
Good news everyone! (Score:2)
Baz
Didn't James Burke cover this 15+ years ago? (Score:3, Insightful)
In fact, Issac Newton summed it up somewhat earlier when he said "If I have seen further than others, it is through standing on the shoulders of giants" (precise wording not guaranteed, statutory rights not affected).
TWW
ARM.... (Score:3, Interesting)
ARM are a smallish bunch of guys based in the UK, they "think" for a living, then sell the ideas to the rest of the industry.
So IP based companies can work, and leave the heavy lifting to others.
In the world of outsourcing this is a common model, and ARM are probably the best examples of how to be an ideas company.
Geek syndrome (Score:2)
If so then Farnsworth is a bad example to use for the main point of this essay. Farnsworth's problems are as likely to stem from autism as anything else. Other lone geniuses have managed to create major inventions and use the patent system to do so. The Bell telephone is the obvious example.
Paul.
death of "lottery patents" (Score:2)
Inventions are not "objective", and so it requires expensive experts to not only understand the technology, but be in a place to influence decisions (such as a judge).
The murkier something is, the harder it is for raw merit to play the biggest role.
The best is probably for a small guy to get a patent (requires roughly 8 grand), and hope to license or sell it to a big company for a decent fee.
However, they have bigger lawyers and deeper pockets, so don't expect to make a killing, because they have more power to keep you from big money than you have to get it.
IOW, they don't mind much paying you small royalties, but when it comes to multi-millions of dollars, then they will fight tooth and nail for it also.
Perhaps if Farnsworth settled for a small stream of income from them, he would be fine. However, he probably was chasing big rainbow profits, and that is what possibly made him fail.
Fuzzy definitions + complexity = death of "lottery patents"
the *real* discovery was missed (Score:2)
Sounds like the doctor had discovered a weight-loss remedy. I find that far more useful than television. Watching television makes you fat; so something is needed to counteract that. Sounds like the perfect co-business. It would be like McAffee having a virus creation and distribution branch.
(* Philo Farnsworth should have gone to work for RCA. He would still have been the father of television, and he might have died a happy man. *)
He probably would have been bored and unfulfilled being just another cubicle dweller in the beurocracy of RCA. He does *not* sound like the kind of person who likes beurocracies.
Re:But what about Dean Kamen? (Score:4, Informative)
Thomas Edison, Steve Jobs, etc. (Score:2)
So the Lone Inventor can develop a business model based on emerging technologies. The first quick example here is Apple.
The other angle on this is the open source model, and seen with Linus Torvald, who gave away his work.
Of course, in some circles, they "eat their own young", in the sense that inventors will keep things secret so well that they will never get support or get funding. This falls into the category of "give me millions before I reveal my secrets", which not many business men will fall for.
Re:Lone inventor is immortal (Score:2, Funny)
Re:speaking of grammar... (Score:2)
Try the lightbulb! (Score:3, Interesting)
These days Swan is airbrushed out of the story in the States.
TWW
Re:ignorance is bliss (Score:2)
So, not a fan of Paine or Swift, I take it?
TWW
You are right, but... (Score:2)
John Logie Baird invented what is called mechanical television, and Farnsworth invented electronic television (the ancestor of what we have today). The difference isn't quite clear to me, but it seems that mechanical tv cameras captured images with a rotating disc, with holes cut in; whereas Farnsworth's electric TV used an "iconoscope" - something which Google couldn't explain to me in the 2 minutes I had...
Either way, JLB should definitely get the accolade for the invention; but Farnsworth should be noted as a great inventor in his own right.
If anyone wants to clarify this further, I'll be as interested as anybody.
Re:You are right, but... (Score:2)