Open the Iris: Stargate SG1 Confirms Season 7 93
Nefrayu writes "After false rumors having been posted on the /. forum lately about the 7th season of SG-1, Gateworld.net and the SciFi Channel have now confirmed that the show will be carried on SciFi through the 7th season. Along with this announcement is the "surprise" that Dr. Daniel Jackson (portrayed by Michael Shanks) will be returning full time for the said 7th season. Excerpts from an online chat with supervising producer Joseph Mallozzi at SG1Fans can be found here. "
It's been on TV every day for the past year (Score:1)
the kids are fed up of it
Re:What is this? TV Guide? (Score:1)
Re:What is this? TV Guide? (Score:1, Troll)
Please.
Re:What is this? TV Guide? (Score:2)
In defense of SG-1 (Score:3, Insightful)
And what does 'extrapolates too far' mean, anyway? It's a science fiction series. If they didn't extrapolate as much as they did, it'd be a shit series. Everyone'd spend every week staring at the iris, wondering what those occasional 'thuds' were.
Re:What is this? TV Guide? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What is this? TV Guide? (Score:2)
Please insert... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Please insert... (Score:2, Funny)
That's good (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:That's good (Score:2, Funny)
Re:That's good (Score:5, Interesting)
-DVK
Re:That's good (Score:3, Funny)
It's good that Daniel Jackson is to return to Stargate ?
The producer wants to kick him out, he ascends to godhood, the crowds want him back in, he descends back to mortality.
Will they frigin decide what is his theological rank ? All these phase transitions are tiring.
Re:That's good (Score:2)
I really hope it's not all a dream! (Score:2)
What I'd like to know is how much the new season will be like the original story line was supposed to. While not having every detail planned out I'm sure the writters have the story hashed out for the most part, and I wonder how much the viewers loose/gain by the hiatus of one of the pivotal characters.
Re:I really hope it's not all a dream! (Score:2)
New plot line for season 7 (Score:4, Funny)
We can call this season: Journey to the not-so-parallel universe.
Dr Daniel is returning? You mean to say he left? (Score:4, Funny)
In the country where I live, SG1 hasn't gone that far yet
Re:Dr Daniel is returning? You mean to say he left (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Dr Daniel is returning? You mean to say he left (Score:2)
Daniel Jackson is the character who hooked me in the first place, and is still my favourite. So I'll be sorry to see him go, and glad to get him back!
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:1)
SG-1 now is weak and anaemic compared to how it first began, and farscape was just getting good. As for the screening time dictating audience figures, his comment is right on the ball.
I just hope someone metamoderates your ass to the junkpile.
-Nano.
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:1)
SG-1 is fine for filler and did its job keeping me awake until Farscape aired, but there's not enough there to keep me tuning every episode. I just don't understand how shows like "Farscape" and the "Invisible Man" can get cancelled in their prime, while SG-1 and worse (i.e. "Crossing Over") seem to thrive.
Sci-Fi shouldn't let itself be run totally by ratings, otherwise we'll end up with Sci-Fi meets Jerry Springer!
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:1)
Stargate came to the Sci-Fi channel w/ a large "installed base" of viewers. That number was probably some significant percentage of SF's total viewship (I have no idea how large, but let's say 20%?) They want to keep that group of people happy and not lose them. Any original show that the SF channel has tried out hasn't worked out in the long run.
If a television network doesn't go by ratings, then they'll have no one watching what you think of as "quality" television. They need to attract advertisers somehow, and if their own creations aren't cutting it, then they get the boot.
It's too bad we can't start our own cable network....can you imagine the /. channel? What would you (yeah you! the one reading this right now!) put on it.
Todd
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:3, Interesting)
SG-1 was also oiginally made by Showtime... and bought by Sci-Fi after about 5 years.
I think Lexx was originally an HBO series, bought by Sci-Fi.
I never watched Lexx, but I watched Outer Limits and SG-1 before and after Sci-Fi. Anyone notice that after Sci-Fi buys something that's still in production (not something in reruns like Lost in Space or Forever Knight), the quality of the show decreases dramatically?
Another example: Sliders. Was orignally a FOX show. It was a good show in it's 1st season, then Fox's execs demanded it be turned to crap, which of course got it cancelled. Sci-Fi bought it, and REALLY screwed it up.
I think the quality of Sci-Fi's writers also hinges on the fact that:
1) they're not a premium network. They make money off commercials and a few product placements, not off monthly subscriptions and product placements.
2) they're owned by USA, which is also known for tons of crap.
I think it's about 70% number 2, 20% number 1, and the rest just general faults of these shows (certain premises last longer than others, and you can only do so many plots on the same general building blocks.)
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:2)
3)?????
4)Profit!!!
(which goes right in line with what I just wrote...)
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:2)
Why I'm holding fears for Firefly [imdb.com] at the moment. It's *so* good (IMO of course) that I'm scared that the network is going to have to dumb it down, or cancel it outright.
Please leave it as it is !!
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:1)
I don't necessarily pine for shows where everyone gets along, but it if there was that much friction between shipmates, is it that likely they'd stay together and not kill each other? (or something like that...)
Todd
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:1)
The flaw is I've noticed when a show switches networks the show is losing or lost momentum and needs some work to stay alive. Additionally the last few epps on the old network are ment to hurt the show on the new network.
Example when UPN took over Buffy from WB the last thing WB did was kill the main character.
Had UPN just let momentum carry it the UPN Buffy would suck.
I don't think it has the same appeal but UPN did a good job using the death of Buffy like a dramatic plot twist.
But Sifi is an old show warehouse when they need to repair them.
Thats why IMAO Sifi shows don't work.
Saint Sinner... I want to see that. Originally a Marval Comic if I remember correctly.
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:4, Interesting)
Farscape was really good, at least for the first couple seasons. This last one was kinda crap. I know I'll be flamed for that, but, seriously, it seemed like the characters could not keep the same personality from episode to episode.
The invisible man gave me some good chuckles, again, mainly in the first couple seasons. When they brought in that person from Black Scorpion and actually started getting serious about the plot, they lost focus. It was a comedy, not a drama! Ugh.
A
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:1)
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:2)
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:1)
I personally love SG-1 and I was never able to watch it because it was sydicated on a channel that ran it at 2am every other Saturday or something like that.
So now with all the re-runs I can catch up on what I missed. Even though you get a similar plot for every episode, I still enjoy the different content. Anyways, when you look at any TV show, is the plot extremely different from week to week? Not usually.
Re:who's running the sci/fi channel anyway? (Score:1)
Anyone know when Season 7 will start? Please don't tell me they plan to show the last half of Season 6 and then re-run the whole thing AGAIN (they've already been through the first half of Season 6 at least twice).
SO WHAT? (Score:1)
We use to spend at least two nights watching it. Now maybe an hour per month and that is for a 2 AM old TLZone.
Why you ask? They can not place a single show of quiality on.
Their sister channel USA, was movies and first run of MONK. So they are spending money. But not on the SciFi but should be renamed the B-Movie Horrir Channel.
Re:I Can't Believe! (Score:1)
Anyone ? (Score:2)
Anyone know what this is about ?
Re:Anyone ? (Score:2, Interesting)
The legend of atlantis, being an advanced civilisation sinking under sea, and with the stargate event horizon looking like water, it's easy to join the two together.
I think the series will be a spin-off from that, about an off-world SGC, based in the region of space where the Ancients are.
I'm not really sure on this though, and don't have any sources to hand. But I must be remembering it from somewhere!
Hold on... (Score:1)
Esth
False rumors? (Score:1)
Now John Edwards they can cancel (Score:1)
Seriously I wonder if Shanks/Jackson will be doing a ghost routine. After all he's sort of dead. He showed up once in season 6 as a 'spirit guide'. Did anyone else get serious vibes that the plot was spinning out of control?
Your wife would just like to say that (Score:1)
Wait, she is holding up an oscar... Something about acting? faking?
But didn't she love me?
Ok, now she is holding up two oscars.
That's great...hey... (Score:3, Funny)
Daniel Jackson Back!? (Score:1)
My big concern is how they will bring him back without making the plot totally absurd!
Re:Daniel Jackson Back!? (Score:3, Informative)
They actually set that up near the beginning of season 5 (in episode 3, "Ascension"), long before Jackson left the show. It is aparrently easy for any ascended being to become mortal again - it's ascending again that's difficult.
--The Rizz
"The only 'ism' that has justified itself is 'pessimism'." --George Orwell
Re:Daniel Jackson Back!? (Score:2, Informative)
Eh... he wasn't in season 6. What show are you watching?
In any case, I'm thrilled he's returning. As far as I'm concerned his character is what held the show together (he offered the only non-military non-alien input), and without him it just hasn't been the same.
Season 6 has been rather disappointing so far, but with the confirmation of season 7 and Daniel's return, I hope the second half of season 6 will improve. At least 7 will be better with Daniel back.
Re:Daniel Jackson Back!? (Score:1)
We want his girlfriend instead! (Score:2)
Oh, who gives #$*!&$ ... (Score:2)
AARRGGHH!!
(I don't EVEN want to hear about how they're already out in the UK. I KNOW they're out in the UK. I want them out in AMERICA!)
There is no god. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:There is no god. (Score:1)
Money.
Number of viewers.
A small contingent of hardcore fans a series does not make.
Re:There is no god. (Score:1)
Re:There is no god. (Score:2)
Re:There is no god. (Score:2, Informative)
Farscape still got the SECOND highest ratings of anything on Sci-Fi, behind SG1. Even with the unfavorable 10pm time slot and lack of promotion, the average ratings for the first half of season 4 were down only a tenth or two from season 3. If you compare the episodes of season 3 broadcast during the summer (when overall TV viewership is down) and the first eleven of season 4, also broadcast in the summer, the ratings are unchanged.
Sci-Fi made the decision to buy seasons 4 and 5 after season 3, so if the numbers from season 3 convinced them they could afford 4 and 5, and the ratings were nearly the same, then that can not be used as an excuse for the cancellation of the show.
SG-1 gets over 2 million viewers for the episodes in syndication. Obviosuly SG-1 has a larger fanbase than Farscape, so it will do better in the ratings. The decision to replace Farscape with SG-1 was made by the beancounters. SG-1 costs about the same to make, and gets slightly higher ratings.
What doesn't make any sense is why they couldn't do both. Farscape was still their second highest rated show. Why not try to build another night of good programing? Say, with SG-1 anchoring Friday night, Farscape anchoring some other night. That's how real networks build schedules and audiences. Not by killing their best shows. Imagine NBC cancelling Frasier because it finished second to Friends in the ratings.
Re:There is no god. (Score:2)
Re:There is no god. (Score:1)
The new people who assumed control of Sci-Fi in the last year or two are conciously moving the network away from "space and alien" shows, in favor of crap like John Edward and paranormal and conspiracy themed shows. They saw the chance to pick up SG-1 for their allotment of "space and alien". When they saw that it got better ratings for less money, they axed Farscape.
Instead of trying to build the network with good programming, they are taking the low road and filling their schedule with paranormal shows and B-grade horror schlock. So perhaps instead of doing good shows and having, perhaps, a 10% margin, they're spewing out crap and making a %20 margin. It makes sense in the short-term for some network exec who only looks at the bottom line, but all their shows are crap and it will, I hope, bite them in the ass someday.
I really don't see it working (Score:1)
Although, you know what would be interesting. The scifi/soap opera solution: Daniel's dead, but they just happen to find his long lost twin brother, a reknowed neurosurgeon raised by temporally displaced landsharks.
Sniff...I miss Farscape...
Love and Peace,
-Valen
Apology (Score:1)
Gomen ne.
Voice inside my head: You're not japanese! *kick*
Me: Hai!
German-speaking Shark swimming through my head: Yes?
Everyone: Doh!
Love and Peace,
Valen
Higher Plane Extradimensional Canoodling (Score:2)
Well you know I find it suspicious that the Cordelia character in Angel has also just returned from some higher plane of something-or-other. Maybe her and Daniel Jackson (ascended) were getting it on in some weird posthuman sense?
A guy on the effects team (SG-1) (Score:1)
I don't see there being a season after this one unless they have a change of heart, he never went into why.. but he said that it was the same thing with sci-fi and what happened with farscape.. which, I have never seen.. (don't attack me)
Anyway, it's good to see that SG1 will be around for another season!
Daniel Jackson? What about Michael Shanks? (Score:1)
But Michael Shanks coming back? What's with that? I thought he left because he didn't like the X-Files'ish direction the show was going, with all the government conspiracies.
So what happened? Did he change his mind?
Re:Daniel Jackson? What about Michael Shanks? (Score:1)
One is that MGM caved into MS so he's back. Or, that MS caved into MGM, which makes no sense either. It all boils down to money and ratings. SciFi attained good ratings with season six, but their highest ratings to date for the entire network (according to their own press release) came from repeats of season one.
Now, some ship (Jack/Sam) fans are all upset because they think Daniel coming back will come in between Jack and Sam, although where, who knows, as I didn't see much if any ship in season six. And then there are some Jonas fans who are all in a state because they think Jonas will get the heave-ho or get relegated to a position where all he does is stand around and smile.
There there are some fans who think that the Daniel fans will sway the producers to make it the Daniel Jackson hour, which contradicts their other view that the Daniel fans had nothing to do with bringing MS back to the show.
And there are the fans who say that only the true l/ loyal / real [please select one] fans are the ones responsible for the show coming back.
Some fans are calling for reconciliation of the fandom, but as long as you've got fans who say 'oh yes, it's a good idea, now we can get past all the death threats and hate mail and i hope those people apologize' crud, it will continue to be the little soap opera on the net
how they will bring jackson back (Score:3, Funny)
Daniel Jackson appears wearing a white robe, surrounded by a glowing light: "I come to you now in your hour need."
Re:how they will bring jackson back (Score:2)
Followed by "who are you, for that matter who am I?"
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