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Oscar Nominations (LotR, Spirited Away, and more) 589

An anonymous reader noted that the Oscar Nominees are now online. The Two Towers is nominated for Best Picture, and Miyazaki's Spirited Away is nominated for Best Animated Picture (someday an Anime will be nominated Best Picture). Road to Perdition, Spider-Man, and even Star Wars have random nominations throughout the list. Even Eminem's got a nomination now ;) There's tons of other good movies in there too (Adaptation, Chicago) and a bunch of movies I've never seen. Anyway, talk amongst yourselves ;)
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Oscar Nominations (LotR, Spirited Away, and more)

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  • Scorcesse? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:08PM (#5280009)
    Is there a hollywood conspiracy against Scorecese (even though he got nominated), can anyone believe he hasn't won best director yet?
    • Re:Scorcesse? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by dejaffa ( 12279 ) <dbrowne AT sewingcentral DOT com> on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:16PM (#5280098)
      Not everybody who deserves to win wins -- the system's not perfect. O'Toole, for example, reportedly turned down an honorary Oscar (he's never won a Best Actor, despite being nominated 5 times or so and clearly deserving it) this year because he's still acting and wants a chance to win it outright.
    • Re:Scorcesse? (Score:5, Informative)

      by GothChip ( 123005 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @01:15PM (#5280680) Homepage
      can anyone believe he hasn't won best director yet?

      Yes.

      This is only his fourth nomination in the best directors category. In the other 3 years he got beaten by directors of better films.

      1990 Goodfellas beaten by Kevin Costner for Dances With Wolves
      1988 The Last Temptaion of Christ beaten by Barry Levinson for Rain Man.
      1980 Raging Bull beaten Robert Redford for Ordinary People.

      OK. Maybe the last one is a bit dodgy but you can't really describe it as a conspiracy when he was beaten by better films.
    • Re:Scorcesse? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by blahbooboo2 ( 602610 )
      Can anyone explain to me why this movie was nominated? It has to be the STUPIDEST movie I have seen in a while. The entire movie is waiting for the kid to kill that guy...boring and silly. And for the blood and guts, disgusting...yeah yeah it was part of the picture bull.

      Now, catch me if you can was a FANTASTIC movie and how that was not nominated is crazy. it was much more enjoyable then Gangs (which I have not met one person who actually liked it).
    • Hmm... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Peterus7 ( 607982 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @01:23PM (#5280750) Homepage Journal
      Two towers for best picture. Who DIDN'T see that coming?

      I hope spirited away gets best animated picture. That'd really do wonders for getting anime into America, and increasing American awareness. Plus, imoho, Spirited away is the best thing I've seen all year that's animated. I dunno, maybe Disney's losing their touch. (So they have to leach off Miziaki.)

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @01:29PM (#5280798)
      yes, there is. nobody can spell his name right.
    • Spike Lee??? (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Pyrosophy ( 259529 )
      Martin S. maybe hasn't received the acclaim he's due, but Adaptation and 25th hour were FAR better movies. Not as good as The Hours, maybe, but geez...

      I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I'd swear the biggest snub of the year is Spike Lee. 25th hour was much better than last year's Training Day and Lee deserves at least a nomination. Lee directing Ed Norton was AMAZING. Norton was at least better and more subtle than Daniel Day-Lewis in S's trainwreck of a movie.

      Not to mention Spike Jonze, who is one of the hottest directors in Hollywood when paired with Kauffman. I liked Two Towers a lot too, but Adaptation deserves best picture nods with the best of them.

      I mean, of course these awards don't mean anything, but it's upsetting when Hollywood can't separate out the innovators from the dead wood.
  • Too bad for Gollum (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TopShelf ( 92521 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:08PM (#5280015) Homepage Journal
    It would have been interesting (and genuinely deserved) to see Andy Serkis nominated for Best Supporting Actor. Unfortunately, his performance defied conventional categorization. Perhaps they can figure out what to do about this before next year...
    • by pubjames ( 468013 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:14PM (#5280076)
      It would have been interesting (and genuinely deserved) to see Andy Serkis nominated for Best Supporting Actor.

      I was just going to post exactly that!

      You are very right. The sequence where Gollum was talking to himself (or Gollum was talking to Smegol, I suppose) was one of the host impressive sequences I've seen in a film for a long time. It's a shame that it will probably get classified as "special effects", when in reality the magic was in the acting. (Although the effects were fabulous too!)

      At least we should be seeing Andy Serkis on our screens more often after that performance.
      • by orichter ( 60340 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @03:13PM (#5281912)
        I think the problem may be that he did his job too well. They say the greatest honor you can give to a special effects artist is to say you didn't see any special effects. Perhaps this was the problem with Gollum. Until this moment, it didn't really even occur to me that Gollum was played by an actor. He was just Gollum. One thing I will say, however, is that I've read the books three times, and seen the cartoon movie version a few times as well, and while I distinctly remember the scene, I had always seen it as the incoherent ramblings of an insane Gollum. Serkis' performance is the first one I've seen that made it clear to me that Gollum was having a coherent conversation between his two personallities. In my mind I gave Peter Jackson credit for that performance. I'm glad I have now been set straight.
    • A lot of people would give Homer Simpson an award. This is the same thing. Gollum's voice made the movie and defined how the CGI was drawn.
      • by hiei ( 104179 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:20PM (#5280152) Homepage
        I believe Andy Serkis was also the motion capture actor for Gollum (if you watch the making of specials on the first DVD you can see him wearing the mocap suit and interacting with the other actors), so he's not just voice acting. He was the underlying actor that the CG was rigged to follow.
        • by ChadN ( 21033 )
          Including facial expressions, BTW. They have dots all over his face to catch his expression while he acts to the camera. Really helped make a difference, I believe.
    • by blandthrax ( 575357 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:18PM (#5280130)
      Unfortunately, his performance defied conventional categorization.

      Why not Best Supporting Actor? Why make a special category when the actor's performance clearly inhabited the character? Neither my wife and I are big LOTR fans, we enjoy them but we don't flock to them and see them repeatedly. However, we were both completely awed by Serkis' perfomance. It was phemomenal. So why not just give him the nod and possibly reward him for an exellent job? It's just silly.
    • by gabec ( 538140 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @01:02PM (#5280570)
      I never conciously think about awards when I see a movie, but I've had several conversations with people about how Sean Astin [imdb.com], a.k.a. Samwise Gamgee deserves best supporting actor nods... In my opinion, as well as the others that have brought it up, Sean Astin has done a marvelous job by protraying his character genuinely and insodoing added that much more realism to the fantasy that is LotR. I have yet to, while watching LotR, pull back and consider Sean Astin the actor. He's always Samwise on-screen. [blah blah blah.]
    • by thatguywhoiam ( 524290 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @01:16PM (#5280699)
      A lot of people have mentioned that. It's actually a really tricky problem, in light of how the Academy is set up.

      Think; which of the following apply to Gollum's performance in TTT?:

      - acting (definitely, so best/supporting actor)
      - costume (digital?)
      - production design (how Gollum looks.. which is partly Andy Serkis and partly.. a designer..)
      - special effects (because he is digital, but also all these other things... and SFX used to be only physical)

      I think the Academy is going to have to address some of these multidisciplinary efforts in the future, as it cannot be easily lumped into one category.

    • by Scryber ( 244784 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @01:17PM (#5280707)
      I'm not surprised, but still disappointed, that "Gollum's Song" performed by Emiliana Torrini wasn't nominated. Her voice is amazing and somewhat other-worldly...perfect for the context of the song.

      Sure he won last year, but Howard Shore's soundtrack for Two Towers was widely praised so it does seem like a snub to not even be nominated this year.

      Might as well throw in: "Too bad for Peter Jackson," too. If you aren't nominated for Best Director, there's really no shot of your movie winning Best Picture.

  • Wow (Score:3, Funny)

    by briancnorton ( 586947 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:09PM (#5280024) Homepage
    This'll go on my tivo right after American Film Institute Awards Producers guild British Academy of film & tv Los Angeles Film Critics Association Awards New York Film Critics Circle Awards Independent Spirit Awards The Academy Awards National Society of Film Critics Awards Broadcast Film Critics Association Awards National Board of Review Awards Golden Globe Awards Annual Directors Guild of America Awards MTV Movie Awards NAACP Image Awards The Internet Entertainment Writers Association American Cinema Foundation awards Aurora Awards Blockbuster Entertainment Awards Bubakar Awards FOX Teen Choice Awards The Peoples Choice awards Gemini Awards Golden Raspberry Award Foundation Humanitas Prize Screen Actors Guild Awards The Grammy Awards Billboard Music Awards American Music Awards Country Music Association Awards Pulitzer Prize in Music BMI Awards FOX Teen Choice Awards The Peoples Choice awards Blockbuster Entertainment Awards LA Weekly Music Awards Los Angeles Music Awards MTV Video Music Awards Radio Music Awards World Music Awards The Emmy® Awards Daytime Emmy Awards Golden Globe Awards George Foster Peabody Awards Alfred I. duPont Awards Directors Guild of America Awards FOX Teen Choice Awards The Peoples Choice awards Golden Raspberry Award Foundation Humanitas Prize Screen Actors Guild Awards
    • Re:Wow (Score:4, Funny)

      by jaseuk ( 217780 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:13PM (#5280062) Homepage
      and one award to rule them all?

    • by briancnorton ( 586947 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:13PM (#5280066) Homepage
      That Should have read

      That'll go on my Tivo Right after

      Movie Awards

      American Film Institute Awards
      Producers guild
      British Academy of film & tv
      Los Angeles Film Critics Association Awards
      New York Film Critics Circle Awards
      Independent Spirit Awards
      The Academy Awards
      National Society of Film Critics Awards
      Broadcast Film Critics Association Awards
      National Board of Review Awards
      Golden Globe Awards
      Annual Directors Guild of America Awards
      MTV Movie Awards
      NAACP Image Awards
      The Internet Entertainment Writers Association
      American Cinema Foundation awards
      Aurora Awards
      Blockbuster Entertainment Awards
      Bubakar Awards
      FOX Teen Choice Awards
      The Peoples Choice awards
      Gemini Awards
      Golden Raspberry Award Foundation
      Humanitas Prize
      Screen Actors Guild Awards

      Music Awards

      The Grammy Awards
      The Latin Grammy Awards
      Billboard Music Awards
      American Music Awards
      Country Music Association Awards
      Pulitzer Prize in Music
      BMI Awards
      FOX Teen Choice Awards
      The Peoples Choice awards
      Blockbuster Entertainment Awards
      LA Weekly Music Awards
      Los Angeles Music Awards
      MTV Video Music Awards
      Radio Music Awards
      World Music Awards

      Tv Awards

      The Emmy® Awards
      Daytime Emmy Awards
      Golden Globe Awards
      George Foster Peabody Awards
      Alfred I. duPont Awards
      Directors Guild of America Awards
      FOX Teen Choice Awards
      The Peoples Choice awards
      Golden Raspberry Award Foundation
      Humanitas Prize
      Screen Actors Guild Awards

    • Re:Wow (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Reziac ( 43301 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:15PM (#5280095) Homepage Journal
      Tho it was funnier all run together.. cuz that's what it feels like sometimes. With all these award shows, how do they squeeze in any regular programming? Oh, wait -- where is the award for "Best Awards Show" ??

  • by GothChip ( 123005 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:11PM (#5280039) Homepage
    Despite the campaign for recognition Andy Serkis has not been nominated for Supporting Actor in his role as Gollum.
  • by Bowie J. Poag ( 16898 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:11PM (#5280043) Homepage


    Thanks to slashdot for stating the obvious.. Yeesh.

    And now, the not to obvious:
    The Golden Raspberry Awards [razzies.com].

    The fact that Gangs Of New York got nominated sort of cinches it for me. I havent seen acting that bad and Irish accents that poor since.... uhh... wait, I've never heard acting and Irish accents that poor! Ever!

  • by mother ( 94915 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:12PM (#5280056)
    An odd call for Adaptation to wind up with a nod for best adapted screenplay. A bit of a stretch even if the original impetus for the story comes from the Orchid Thief.
  • Notably absent... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Was Andy Serkis in the role of Gollum [wired.com] in the The Two Towers. I really think he deserved it.
  • by alen ( 225700 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:14PM (#5280074)
    Why didn't Star Wars get a nomination in this category? It was almost like Roger Rabbit. A cartoon with some real people in it.
  • by Mothra the III ( 631161 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:14PM (#5280078)
    Surely its a better movie than any musical?
  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:15PM (#5280089)
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  • That bloody page freezes my mozilla-xft solid.
  • by DarkHelmet ( 120004 ) <mark&seventhcycle,net> on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:16PM (#5280104) Homepage
    What? No Crossroads?

    I thought Hollywood had awards for Best Breasts and Best Plastic Surgery... My bad.

  • Anime wins awards all the time. Fetish film awards, that is.

    The American Psychological Association [apa.org] lists Anime as an officially recognized sexual fetish, treatable with medication and cognitive therapy.

    Get off it, Rob. Nobody here cares about your obsession with big-eyed pumpkin headed screamers.

    Cheers,
  • by MAXOMENOS ( 9802 ) <mike&mikesmithfororegon,com> on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:17PM (#5280114) Homepage
    A roundup of the nominees for Best Picture and what I think their chances are:
    • The Two Towers. We see a great flick. Self-important Hollywood sees Elves and Dwarves beating up on Orcs, so we can fucking forget it.
    • Chicago. A musical. Forget it.
    • Gangs of New York. Three hours long, directed by Martin Scorsesie, has a Titanic feel to it, and touches on new ground (civil war era New York). Stands a good chance.
    • The Hours. Women with problems. Stands a chance, barely.
    • The Pianist. Jewish Artist vs. the Nazis. Should be a shoo-in, but we'll see.
    • Not that it should matter, but sense the American people are so concerned about morality. There seems to be no mention of the fact that the director of the Pianist was convicted of Raping a 13 year old girl and fled the US be fore he could be sentenced.
    • The Two Towers. We see a great flick. Self-important Hollywood sees Elves and Dwarves beating up on Orcs, so we can fucking forget it

      I think you can forget it, but not because of "elves and dwarves beating up on orcs" -- forget it because FOTR won last year, and the Academy is unlikely to award the top prize to a sequel.

      Of the rest, I've only seen The Hours, and while it was interesting I don't see it as a Best Picture.
  • Maya will also get an oscar :
    Read about it in my journal... [slashdot.org]
  • by mrs clear plastic ( 229108 ) <allyn@clearplastic.com> on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:18PM (#5280132) Homepage
    I hope that 'Chicago' gets the best picture award.

    This has been the first musical, that I can recall, that has come out for a long time.

    I have longed for musicals such as 'Sound of Music', 'Singing In The Rain', and 'West Side Story'.

    I can remember going to those movies as a chile and being 'carried away' by the fantasy and joy they evoked.

    I am very dissapointed that these types of musicals are not comming out of the Hollywood machine lately.

    I hope, if 'Chicago' gets the award, that more musicals will start to come down the line.

    Mark
  • News for Nerds (Score:2, Interesting)

    by FortKnox ( 169099 )
    The fact that the Two Towers is nominated for best picture is news for nerds... barely. The rest? P'shah!
    Its about as newsworthy as the superbowl (and not for the commercials and a comment by michael insulting anyone who is a football fan... which I am, but michael's already commented personally to me, so I don't mind).
  • Best: (Score:2, Funny)

    by psicE ( 126646 )
    ANIMATED FEATURE FILM
    ICE AGE
    LILO & STITCH
    SPIRIT: STALLION OF THE CIMARRON
    SPIRITED AWAY
    TREASURE PLANET

    So if Spirited Away wins, it will have beat Ice Age, Lilo & Stitch, Spirit, and Treasure Planet.

    What an honor.
    • Re:Best: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Masem ( 1171 )
      Spirited Away is practically a shoe-in for this, but Lilo & Stitch and Ice Age are viable competitors. Spirit, while doing an OK job at the box office, was sorta so-so after Dreamworks' last two big animation features, Road to El Dorado and Shrek. Treasure Planet was considered a flop by most conservative standards, and due to it's failure, several changes appear to be underfoot at Disney, including cutting back on various DVD features (for example, rumor had it that there was planned a 2-disc edition of L&S due out around now, in addition to the single disk that you can get now; reports now say that Disney will be hard pressed to release any 2-disk feature again save for their Classics series (Snow White, B&tB, etc)).

      Ice Age does have rough edges but for a first shot full-length feature, it works quite well, though I doubt it'll win (maybe it's there to be the sole CGI-animation representative?)

      Lilo and Stitch was probably Disney's best and tightest work since TLM and B&tB: they took out the musical numbers, focused on comedy and timing and plot, and brough together good characters and good voice talent to make it work. (And my understanding is also that this was not a big budget film, pre-marketing/advertizing fees, compared to previous Disney ventures). No, it's not as good as Spirited AWay, but the elements that got B&tB the Best Picture Oscar nomination are there in L&S, and by and far, the race will be between these two films.

  • Frida??? They gave Ms. Hayek a unibrow...

    The Time Machine? I've seen better makeup on MutantX.
  • by pizzaman100 ( 588500 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:19PM (#5280148) Journal
    Chicago or maybe Gangs will win best picture - two movies I won't waste the time to watch. SCI-FI movies(TTT)and comedies (Greek Wedding)won't get the respect they deserve

    They'll thow a bone to Jackon and crew with a "Visual Effects" award, and maybe "Sound Editing".

    • Chicago is certainly not a waste of time (well, if you like Broadway musicals, anyway). They stayed with the original plot line and music and didn't try something silly like trying to rewrite music and lyrics. Even the people I know who are actors/actresses and do live musicals liked it...
  • Gangs of New York (Score:3, Interesting)

    by pubjames ( 468013 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:21PM (#5280155)

    I cannot believe that "Gangs of New York" has been nominated for best picture. It was the worst film I've seen in ages. But I guess just because of who directed it, and the fact that it was a "Hollywood epic", means that it got nominated. A shame.
  • by gosand ( 234100 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:23PM (#5280176)
    Bowling for Columbine, hands down, the best FILM of the year, let alone the best documentary. Too bad it couldn't have been nominated for both, but I don't see how it cannot win best documentary. Absolutely one of the most impactful things I have ever viewed. I saw it when it came out, and I really want to see it again. Even if you disagree with some of the views that it presents, you need to see it.
    • It puts its perspective well certainly. Unfortunately an R2 DVD release looks as unlikely as a story only appearing once on slashdot
    • The only way this will win is if the Academy wants to make an anti-Bush statement. The widely distributed documentaries never win (Cf. Hoop Dreams), because the Academy documentarians are resentful of those pieces that get popular acclaim.

      Bowling for Columbine is my favorite film of the year, but I think it's got zero chance.

  • by jamie ( 78724 ) <jamie@slashdot.org> on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:24PM (#5280180) Journal
    It's a crime that Chicago got to take up a slot on the Best Picture list when Far From Heaven was easily the best picture of last year.

    Of course I say that without having seen The Hours or The Pianist because no place within 50 miles of me has shown them yet.

    Far From Heaven did get four nominations (including Julianne Moore, who should win) but not the one it really deserved. Stupid Academy.

    I'm glad to see both Spirit and Spirited Away nominated for Animated Feature; either could win, in my opinion. Spirit was a great movie with really beautiful artwork that was marred by Bryan Adams' hideous music. Of course this assumes anyone cares about a category that last year only bothered to put up three nominees and none of them was Final Fantasy or Waking Life, you stupid Academy traitorous rat bastards who are constitutionally incapable of recognizing any films or critically-acclaimed box-office flops.

    Adaptation got nominated for Adapted Screenplay, plus three acting nominations. And "if you liked Adaptation, you'll love" (tm) Confessions of a Dangerous Mind -- it didn't get nominated for anything but I think it's a better film. I liked them both quite a lot.

    Solaris should have gotten a nod for Art Direction. That's a damn shame.

    And I'm really glad to see Bowling For Columbine nominated for Documentary Feature; if it wins, it'll be a good Oscar night no matter what else happens.

  • Too bad Howard Shore already won the Oscar last year for The Fellowship of the Rings, no doubt he could have won it again with The Two Towers soundtrack.

    The big winner this year seems to be Gangs of New York anyway, though it is deserved.
  • by klasker ( 861 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:27PM (#5280211)
    ...are at Rotten Tomatoes [rottentomatoes.com].

    What, you guys didn't love Juwanna Mann [rottentomatoes.com] ?
  • No Star Trek... No suprise...
  • by Lethyos ( 408045 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:33PM (#5280289) Journal
    They're theives! Wicked... false... tricksie... They stole our nomination... and we wants it back!
  • Some Thoughts (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Murdock037 ( 469526 ) <tristranthorn.hotmail@com> on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:33PM (#5280290)
    On the whole, it's tough to get particularly pissed off about the nominations on the whole. It's been a very, very good year, and none of the nominations in the major categories is truly ridiculous.

    Individually:

    Best Picture:
    Will win: Chicago
    Should win: Gangs of New York, probably
    Should have been nominated: Adaptation, Spirited Away, or Punch-Drunk Love, in a perfect world
    Thoughts: Not a bad set of nominees. Nothing particularly outrageous, except for The Hours, which was designed for the express purpose of winning year-end awards. But on the whole you can't complain.

    Director
    Will win: Scorsese
    Should win: Scorsese
    Should have been nominated: Spike Jonze for Adaptation or Peter Jackson for The Two Towers.
    Thoughts: It'll be a Lifetime Achievement Oscar for Scorsese, essentially. Gangs is far from his best work, but he runs circles around everybody else even on a bad day. (Side note: How do you nominate a movie for Best Picture, but not its director, a la TTT? These things don't direct themselves.)

    Original Screenplay
    Will win: Talk to Her
    Should win: Y Tu Mama Tambien
    Should have been nominated: Spirited Away
    Thoughts: I'll be glad when they send Vardolos back to made-for-TV land where she belongs.

    Adapted Screenplay
    Will win: Adaptation or Chicago
    Should win: Adaptation
    Thoughts: A close call-- Condon could win for Chicago if it rides the wave in, even though Adaptation deserves it. Kudos to Charlie Kaufman for figuring out a way to get the first nomination ever for a person that doesn't exist.

    Best Actor
    Will win: Jack Nicholson
    Should win: Daniel Day-Lewis
    Thoughts: Everybody loves Nicholson. But watching Day-Lewis perform is like having ring-side seats for a hurricane.

    I don't really care about the other acting categories. Nothing too interesting happening there. Sorry.

    In the end, I'm glad overall. Spirited Away got some recognition it deserves-- I'm not an anime fan in the least and it was still my favorite movie of the year. There's not an unworthy film in the bunch, by my reckoning. Like I said, it was a good year. Lots of treats, lots of movies that'll last.

    Thoughts?
  • Oscars are rigged (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Goonie ( 8651 ) <robert.merkel@be ... g ['ra.' in gap]> on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:34PM (#5280304) Homepage
    There was a article at Salon [salon.com] which discusses exactly why the Oscars are an absolute joke. The voters are subjected to massive marketing campaigns. They don't even have to have watched the films, for fsck's sake! They're also known to be extremely conservative in their tastes.

    So don't get too offended when Spirited Away loses to Lilo & Sitch, and The Two Towers gets beaten by Chicago.

  • A Few Thoughts (Score:5, Interesting)

    by GS11_Pus ( 578643 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:38PM (#5280346)

    I am by no means a cinematic expert, but like most people, I enjoy movies and I see my fair share. I think I can appreciate an off-beat, artistic movie (Adaption), as well as a solid dramatic piece (White Oleander) or a hard-edged cop thriller (NARC). You might like or dislike any of those movies, but in my opinion they all have appeal and I enjoyed them.

    Far From Heaven, on the other hand, was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I saw it with my two closest friends, and we left after 90 minutes of agony. I've only walked out of one other movie in my life (Bloodwork), and the three of us spent the rest of the evening talking about how painstakingly bad Far From Heaven was.

    And then I look at the internet. Almost every movie critic thought Far From Heaven was a masterpiece. Why? The dialogue was painful, the story was farfetched and flat out laughable at times, and I thought Dennis Quaid's acting was a joke (I ordinarily like him). What do these critics see that I am missing?

    Anyway, I'm glad that Paul Newman received an Oscar nomination for Road to Perdition. I was greatly disappointed by this movie as Tom Hanks is my favorite actor and the movie just wasn't very interesting. But Paul Newman was stellar in his role and very much deserved a nomination.

    Another movie that has received critical acclaim of which I do not understand is Gangs of New York. Leo DiCaprio was pitiful in his role, and Daniel Day Lewis spent half the movie talking like Deniro, and half the movie talking like some guy from Brooklyn. The story was flat out boring - revenge stories have simply been done to death, and this added nothing new. Cameron Diaz was especially bad in this (as bad as she is in everything). Yet this movie received tons of critical acclaim. Why? DiCaprio was very good in Catch Me If You Can, where he could play a young, cocky kid who schmoozes his way through life. But he has no edge, and looking angry for two hours doesn't count.

    White Oleander was one of the most underrated movies of the year in my opinion. Alison Lohman was just fantastic in this role, and this movie was very interesting and entertaining at the same time. Minority Report was probably my favorite movie of the year, but was dismissed.

    Anyway, I don't understand what makes movie critics tick. Adaptation was an inventive movie, that I liked. I can understand critics liking it. But Far From Heaven and Gangs of New York were total throwaways as far as I'm concerned, and I don't understand how anyone could watch them and come away thinking, "that was great!"

  • No LOTR Logo/Icon? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by halo8 ( 445515 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:42PM (#5280387)
    Why oh Why Dear Slashdot Editors dose Lord of the Rings not have a Logo? Starwars has a Logo.. the Ipod has a Logo.. why dosent LOTR?

    Think about it.. all the Posts that are going to be made over the next +2 Years for LOTR.. Movie Reiviews, Spoilers, Trailers, DVD's, DVD Reviews, Special Ed. DVD's, Cast Interviews, Award Shows, ect.. ect... ect..

    LOTR DESERVES its own Logo/Icon

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=48383&cid=49 16 794
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  • by brickbat ( 64506 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:45PM (#5280409) Homepage Journal
    Miyazaki's Spirited Away is nominated for Best Animated Picture (someday an Anime will be nominated Best Picture).

    Uh, no. No animated film will ever again receive a Best Picture nomination (Disney's Beauty and the Beast in 1991 is the only time it's happened). For some reason the Academy believes it's inappropriate for cartoons to compete with "real" movies for honors, so last year they created the Best Animated Feature Film category (won by Shrek). Yeah, it's a load of bullshit. But this way Disney's happy; they have three movies up for the award (Lilo & Stitch, Spirited Away, and the wholly undeserving Treasure Planet).

    Somebody explain this: If Y Tu Mama Tambien was one of the best movies of the year and earned a Best Original Screenplay nomination, why isn't it a Best Foreign Language Film candidate? Isn't Mexico its country of origin? Instead we get a movie I've never heard of.

    And be totally honest with yourselves: did The Two Towers really deserve a Best Picture nomination this year?

    The Oscars make no sense these days.
  • by scotay ( 195240 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:50PM (#5280459)
    I love the Oscar season

    The summer season of crappy cams that turn any film into pixelized mess like The Road to Blurdition is replaced by the crispness of winter and it's DVD source material.

    The low rez crap, stupid watermarks, and constant subtitles in a language of strange squiggles are replaced by "for your consideration" and "may not duplicate" warnings that pass so quickly they are hardly noticed.

    I eagerly join the ranks of an Academy that apparently also never has to pay or even leave the house to see a film. I may not be able to remember all your names, but I would like to thank all of you for being so free and easy with your promos.
  • by hellfire ( 86129 ) <deviladvNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @12:52PM (#5280469) Homepage
    The motion picture industry, for one, doesn't respect animated pictures above being cute for kids.

    They gave the nod to Beauty and the Beast one year for various reasons, but the industry on the whole didn't like this. My personal opinion was that because there are now more competing art houses for animated films now (Dreamworks and Nickelodeon studios are actually giving Disney a run for their money, and Pixar producing most of Disney's quality anyway) that this animated category was an industry move to satisfy the egos of people who only produce animated films so they can say they made good quality. This might help animated films slightly, because Disney will at least make some small effort to bring one art house animated feature to america a year to try to win this, but for the most part animated films are about getting kids into the movies and separating their parents from their money.
  • by EXTomar ( 78739 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @01:20PM (#5280722)
    It is interesting to note that Miramax (guess who owns them?) has some 30+ nominations. It is no secret that Miramax pushes heavily on Academy voters to vote for their stuff because an Oscar Award (and lesser extent Nomination) means advertising dollars. This includes the much vaunted Spirited Away...

    Miramax in the days of Clerks used to be about a production company that wanted to do off beat and out of mainstream stuff. Of course all of that changed when Shakespeare in Love came along and dumped a huge pile of cash in their laps. Oh well...The Oscars were never for the outside and indie film industry anyway. No one should labor under the delusion that the Oscars are anything but a big advertising gig.
  • by thatguywhoiam ( 524290 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @01:34PM (#5280841)
    I forget where I scooped this from:

    "Charlie Kaufman, a previous screenwriting nominee for Being John Malkovich, scored a first of sorts. He was nominated for adapted screenplay for Adaptation, along with fictional twin brother Donald, who shares the writing credit. It was the first nomination ever for a fictional entity. In the past, filmmakers have received nominations under assumed names, such as Joel and Ethan Coen as Roderick Jaynes, their film-editing pseudonym, or Robert Towne, who shared a screenwriting nomination for 1984's Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes under the name of his sheepdog, P.H. Vazak.

    Academy officials say if Adaptation wins, only one Oscar will be awarded, for Charlie Kaufman.

    Hired to adapt Orlean's The Orchid Thief, Kaufman struggled with the script, then whimsically wrote an incarnation of himself and a nonexistent twin into the story. Cage plays both characters.

    "

  • by Slak ( 40625 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @01:43PM (#5280949)
    Ok, Slashdot, I must have lost my schedule; it's Tuesday - do we hate the MPAA's DVD policy today or do we fawn over the cool CGI stuff?

    -Slak
  • The Cathedral! (Score:3, Informative)

    by jfedor ( 27894 ) <jfedor@jfedor.org> on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @01:55PM (#5281062) Homepage
    I would like to point your attention to one nomination [oscar.com] in the animated short category: The Cathedral.

    It's a really nice short, loosely based on a story by Jacek Dukaj, directed by a Polish animator, Tomek Baginski. It won [siggraph.org] the best animated short award at SIGGRAPH [siggraph.org] 2002 [siggraph.org].

    You probably won't get a chance to see it in a movie theater (it ran for a some time in a few Polish cinemas before Minority Report and Signs), but you can download a trailer here: hi-res Divx [hell.pl] (15 MB), low-res Divx [hell.pl] (8 MB), low-res MPEG [hell.pl] (9 MB).

    Here is the author's page [platige.com] about the film (flash required).

    -jfedor
  • by iplayfast ( 166447 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @02:01PM (#5281134)
    I liked LOTR I, but with 2 I kept getting distracted by various things.

    For example, did anyone else notice that whenever there was a closeup of human warriors in battle armor, standing at attention, or searching outside the big gate for Frodo and company, that their eyes looked very feminine. I saw this several times in the movie. Is this a case of casting couch casting, or male actors with pretty eyes? I don't know. But it was distracting.

    Also the CG in the second one for mob scenes was very fake. Like when Aragon and the King rode out through the orcs. All the orcs fell down halfway off the bridge. That is the body was lying on the bridge and the feet sticking off (straight out). And I guess orc bodies don't bounce... Instead they fall flat and stick to the ground.

    Was I alone in seeing this stuff?
  • by peter303 ( 12292 ) on Tuesday February 11, 2003 @04:22PM (#5282474)
    I think Hollywood is hesitant about a serial movie, until it is all shown. But next year LOTR will be competing with the Matrix serial.

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