


Return Of Bloom County. Sorta 221
Slartibartfast writes "According to mycomicspage.com, the entirety of Bloom County will be re-published on their site, starting St. Paddy's day, and at a "highly accelerated" rate of one week every two days, until the entire strip is up. In addition -- an extra-special bonus for us Berke Breathed fans -- his college predecessor, Academic Waltz, will also be run. One caveat: it's subscription-based. However, for $10, I'd call it a huge bargain. I'm signing up."
Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:4, Insightful)
(I still remember the critters and Steve D on the wheelchair running from the AT&T deathstar logo on a billboard)
I think a 'buncha younguns(tm)' will miss out on the political satire.
Now, do this with Calivn and Hobbes!
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:3, Interesting)
It's more dated than, say, 'peanuts'; but the quality is also better too. (again, IMHO).
I completely agree, however, that Calvin and Hobbes would be an even better choice.
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:3, Funny)
"Not to say that we didn't try..."
Ah, Milo. How I've missed you & your friends.
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:5, Informative)
already done. [ucomics.com] Except that you can view some for free.
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:2, Informative)
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Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:3, Interesting)
Interesting, that. A bunch of years ago I worked on a CD product called "The Doonesbury Anthology", which was a collection of all the Doonesbury strips, with historical context, games, animations, etc. We (i.e. some poor temp slobs) had to scan in all the damn things, many of which were only available from newspaper
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:2)
I must be having a bad day. I never could get the hang of Mondays.
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:2, Interesting)
Honestly it worked this morning. Their tech support must read
I've pulled the whole thing numerous times. Looks like I'll have to put up a mirror.
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:2)
you can't have it.
Even if I say pretty please with sugar on top?
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:2)
give me an FTP or something to upload it to, I've got no hosting. It's 117 megs uncompressed, I'll rar it but it's mostly gifs so I doubt it'll be a lot smaller.
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Target demographic: 28-38 (Score:2, Funny)
Actually, I read through Classics of Western Literature last night... the political satire rather nails the Bush whitehouse.
It's Reagan redux. Breathed is a prophet!
Taco's scheme to get more subscriptions (Score:2, Troll)
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Now that's worth paying for... (Score:3, Interesting)
Speaking of, what other strips would people like to see republished online?
Re:Now that's worth paying for... (Score:2, Funny)
Naw, we don't need Doonesbury.
Re:Now that's worth paying for... (Score:3, Interesting)
Calvin and Hobbes and the Far Side would be the only two anyone should ever need.
Re:Now that's worth paying for... (Score:2)
Historical strips! (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Now that's worth paying for... (Score:2)
Re:Now that's worth paying for... (Score:2)
Content worth paying for (Score:3, Insightful)
I'll also make sure that I look at all the comics out there that are derivative of Bloom County (almost wrote B.C. there) today. The guy was funny and he obviously had a huge impact otherwise.
This is just a neat idea and a bargain price. Count me in, baby.
GF.
Re:Content worth paying for (Score:2)
Best...Comic...Ever.... (Score:3, Insightful)
How is this a bargain? (Score:3, Insightful)
You're dead wrong. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:You're dead wrong. (Score:2)
Re:You're dead wrong. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How is this a bargain? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:How is this a bargain? (Score:2)
Re:How is this a bargain? (Score:3, Informative)
They don't appear to have Classics of Western Literature, but that was a collection, it's not entirely clear that it had unique content. And they don't have One Last Little Peek, which definitely does have unique content. But then, you might find that one s
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Re:How is this a bargain? (Score:2, Insightful)
I fail to see how I need to read bloom county at work, and it see
Re:How is this a bargain? (Score:2)
I lose access to everything
Or maybe, just maybe, stay with me now: You save all of the strips and burn them to disc. And then you have them for as long as you want, plus you've paid only $10 to get them.
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Re:How is this a bargain? (Score:2)
Must be a windows user, a *nix (and by association I imagine an OS X guy) would use wget and be done with it.
</cheap joke>
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Re:How is this a bargain? (Score:2, Interesting)
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Re:How is this a bargain? (Score:3, Funny)
What is wrong with being in front of a tube? Being in front of a tube is one of my favorite places to be! Especially in the dark with only the beloved Trinitron CRT as the sole light source. Heaven.
"you don't have to print and bind them"
And just why would you want to do a dumb thing like that? All I ever print is snail mail for those Luddenites in my life without email or an occasional resume.
Keep it electronic. Never use paper unless you absolutely hav
Re:How is this a bargain? (Score:2)
Already signed up - Calvin & Hobbes too! (Score:5, Informative)
Not only do they have Bloom County and will soon have Outland, but they have Calvin & Hobbes as well! $10/year is a pretty good deal for all these great comics. Color me convinced!
Are archives accessible? (Score:2)
What I'm wondering is: is there a way to browse the archives somehow once you're a subscriber? Let's say I started in six months rather than today - woudl I be able to access the prior six months of Bloom County? Can you get all the way back to the beginning of Calvin & Hobbes? Or do you just get what they oink out on any given day, starting whenever you subscribe?
Re:Are archives accessible? (Score:2, Informative)
Kind of like being forced not to skip ahead on those old Far Side off the w
Re:Are archives accessible? (Score:3, Interesting)
how to save $10 (Score:5, Funny)
If you mention you posted the story on slashdot, you might get it for free.
Actual cost: $50 (Score:5, Informative)
Number of comics = (15 Years of comics) * (365 comics / year) = 5475 comics.
Release rate = (7 Comics / 2 Days) * (365 days / year) = 1277 comics/year.
Release time = (5475 comics) / (1277 comics/year) = 4.3 years
Cost = (4.3 years) * ($10 / year) = $50 (assuming you can't pay for part of a year)
Re:Actual cost: $10 (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Actual cost: $50 (Score:3, Interesting)
If it started December 31, 1980 and ended January 1, 1995 that is closer to 14 years. In that case, All but a couple comics would fit in a four year subscription.
If it started early in 1980 and late in 1995, it would be closer to 16 years of comics.
Re:Is this "New Math"? (Score:2)
(emphasis added)
But you seem to be saying that the comics did not run continuously in this period. By your estimates of 8 years of comics, that would mean that would make the run 2.3 years for $30.
In any case, it will be a multiple year subscription and the si
Re:Is this "New Math"? (Score:2)
bloom county! (Score:2, Funny)
Not sure how it aged (Score:3, Insightful)
I went to find collections for my kids this last year. Calvin and Hobbes is still as good, even better, than I remembered it. But Bloom County, sorry to say, is not just highly topical with 80s politics and all... it's just not quite as fantastically good. Sorry to say it, but there it is. Once you get past the initial "cute Opus" phase it just felt kind of seedy. The kids never got into the big book, either, though they're obsessed with Calvin and Hobbes now.
Re:Not sure how it aged (Score:5, Interesting)
It's a good recapitulation of history, especially to read about Cold-War era fears; "The Iron Giant" didn't lose any points from me for being about the '50s, nor "Cradle Will Rock" about the '30s.
But when I read Bloom County or Outland today, I find it even more compelling as a discussion of a political era that could shed some light on today's. With similar attitudes in the Bush Administration II and today's media about what it is to be God-Fearing and Rifle-Toting as in the 1980s, Opus and Milo and Binkley and Oliver... and even Bill... give us Berkeley Breathed's perspective as he was living through it, and we can get a sense of just how similar distant times can be.
I'd say it aged well.
Re:Not sure how it aged (Score:2)
cool stuff (Score:4, Interesting)
I asked him how everyone would have ended up, and he said that Wendell (the nerdy computer geek that Urkel was based on) would have ended up as a Linux kernel developer.
Cool stuff.
Re:cool stuff (Score:2, Informative)
I asked him how everyone would have ended up, and he said that Wendell (the nerdy computer geek that Urkel was based on) would have ended up as a Linux kernel developer.
This is not true. You can count on one hand how many interviews Berke has given in in the past 7 years. I'm a bit of a fanboy so I can vouch for that. The kid had nothing to do with Urkel, and the Linux remark only solidifies the troll.
Check out his
Can I browse it... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Can I browse it... (Score:4, Funny)
_Academia_ Waltz (Score:3, Informative)
In addition -- an extra-special bonus for us Berke Breathed fans -- his college predecessor, Academic Waltz, will also be run.
Pedantic correction: Breathed's original strip was called "Academia Waltz," not "Academic." It was a modest little Doonesbury ripoff that ran in THE DAILY TEXAN, the student newspaper of the University of Texas at Austin. A few of the characters later seen in "Bloom County" debuted there, but the strip is said to be of interest for Breathed completists only.
Then again, don't trust me. I never saw much of interest in "Bloom County" itself. When it won a Pulitzer Prize for editorial cartooning, that seemed to me a sad moment in the history of the Pulitzer. THE COMICS JOURNAL writer R. Fiore once commented that saying "Bloom County" was funny was like complimenting a shoplifter on her taste in clothes.
For $10 bucks... (Score:3, Funny)
Steve Dallas (Score:2)
Seriously, that guy epitomized cool to me, I wanted to grow up and wear Ray-Bans everywhere and always be hooking up w/ big-breasted women. Fortunately, the 1st part isn't true. Regrettably, the 2nd hasn't happened.
Image quality kind of sucks (Score:4, Informative)
Reminds me of my college days... (Score:5, Funny)
I remember getting my first Mac my senior year and instantly replacing the default hard drive icon with Bill the Cat's image and renaming it Ack!
Anybody know where to get Bloom County icons for OS X?
Re:Reminds me of my college days... (Score:2)
Anyone remember the little feet you could get for the original Mac to make it look like the the Banana Jr. 9000?
woot! (Score:2)
Why in gods name did they cancel it?
Re:woot! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:woot! (Score:4, Insightful)
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
There's something deeply, fundamentally wrong with a universe in which Bloom County, The Far Side, and Calvin and Hobbes are gone, while Beetle Bailey, B.C., and Blondie linger on and on and on.
A cool Penguin (Score:2, Funny)
I think 10 dollars is a good price for a year subscription. I am tired of people overcharging for web content. I would like to see buisness models that rely on volume rather than high prices per customer.
Low cost, low quality (Score:4, Informative)
I hope it encourages more like it (Score:3, Insightful)
Some of the specifics may be lost on those who did not live through it, but generalities are always funny. For instance when Rosebud was outed as female, Cutter John and the crew of the Enterpoop, Bill the Cat for president or as a fundamentalist preacher. On more serious sides we have the eternal physiological truths of searching for one's mother or trying to get acceptance from ones father(the later is a theme of King of the Hill).
I really hope this encourages the development of new strips that are self aware and humble. I think a comic should be more than just a contrived excuse for a punchline.
Why great comics blink out or fade to crap... (Score:5, Insightful)
Problem is, these authors, rather than being allowed to publish on a semi-regular basis (ie whenever they want) they have to retire, some say they're taking a break, but they never come back... inertia takes over at that point.
I wonder if there would still be a Bloom County or Outland if Breathed was allowed to publish once every two weeks or once a month or so during the drier spells... I can only imagine what he would have done now with George W and Gulf War II... lots of material there
Re:Why great comics blink out or fade to crap... (Score:3, Interesting)
So why can't he do that now? Couldn't BB get a deal with a monthly (Playboy, Popular Science, Ladies' Home Journal, whatever) and do four strips an issue?
It's too much to hope for Bloom County to return and snuff Cathy out of the dailies, yes?
Bloom County, Calvin and Hobbes, and The Far Side made the comics page a great place to visit every day. Nothing's come close to
Some favorite BB strips of mine (Score:2, Interesting)
And here's the other one [trouble.org] (younger slashdot readers may not know about Reagan's infamous microphone test [quotationspage.com] which probably inspired this strip).
Too bad... (Score:5, Funny)
-72
But I already have copies of every Bloom County (Score:3, Funny)
For those born after me, these are an ancient storage media which consist of pieces of paper, on which images have been permeneantly inscribed, bound together in bundles. They are unique in that they require no electricity, no networking, do not crash, may comfortably be rested on one's lap when one is in the bathroom thinking, and contain absolutely no DRM
I know, I know - what's the fun in that. You can't even make 'em run Linux.
Fishing for MyComicsPage opinions... (Score:2, Interesting)
Also, which comics do they have full archives of? Is it all of them, or just a select few?
wrong icon (Score:2)
The Academia Waltz (Score:2)
THIS IS A HINT, BERKE.
And while I hesitate to say this, lest the final remnants of the good ones get scooped up, I should mention that Berke gave 2 years worth of original toons to his mom to put up for s [bloomcountystrips.com]
So... (Score:2)
Wispy Nastolgia aside (Score:2)
An interesting experiment would be to but them all on kazaa and see if they still get people to pay the 10 bucks.
If that last statement bothered you, and you download
and no, I won't actually do that.
I would pay the 10 bucks if it included a week of new strips, including sunday.
several of artisit who retireed around the same time said they found newspapers too limiting.
How 'bout 20 Q from BB? (Score:2)
Talk about ironic, the banner ad on my page as I type this offers a link to "Research Ronald Reagan at the world's largest online library". Fitting with the story...
Anyhoo, I think it would be cool to have a 20 Questions with Berke sometime soon, to catch up on what he's doing, and press him as to WHY, OH WHY AREN'T YOU STILL A (COMIC) STRIPPER? Even if it isn't a reprise of Bloom County, I would love to see some new work aside from children's books. I think he's one of the most talented cartoonists to
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Re:Lost its Bloom (Score:3, Interesting)
Give Breathed and Larson credit for knowing when to hold, when to fold, and going out on top.
Peanuts (Score:4, Insightful)
It never did, and Lucy always put his optimism in perspective with some quip. It might have been funny, but if you chose to think about it further, it made you reflect a bit on your own situation. You go to work/school/look for work every day, even if it doesn't seem like it'll make a difference, because of that same sort of optimism, right?
Not everyone gets the same thing out of Peanuts, or if they do, it's not always consciously. Sometimes it's kind of like those "Chicken Soup for the Simple Minded Optimist" books - kind of gives you a good feeling even if it doesn't really do much good.
Of course, you can always spend more effort and get as self-reflective about the Peanuts characters as you want. You can see the same things in Calvin and Hobbes and occasionally in a different way in Bloom County (but not Far Side - that was just plain wacky fun). But it wasn't fundamentally about being funny, so that's the wrong way to judge it.
Re:Great! (Score:2, Offtopic)
For those paying for the comics, $10 is
Deep, man, deep (Score:3, Insightful)
Make all the arguments you want about obscure/old unattainable bootlegs/etc that you want, HOWEVER : I love file sharing, but there is no doubt in my mind that when I download a music file that I could easily walk into any music shop and pick up right off the shelf of the "Top 20" rack, I am circumventing paying for that song. If you want to sample it, turn on the rad
Re:Deep, man, deep (Score:2)
For that matter, what do you do when your music doesn't get shared P2P? As far as I know, I'm the only major source on fasttrack for the music that I like, and well, I already have everything I'm sharing.
*I* never download a "current" song, nor anything that will likely see play on the local classical station, and I can tell you: there is no choice for those who are in that category. For me, sharing those files is a public service, a favor
Re:Great! (Score:5, Insightful)
Niether music nor software are priced in accordance with their value to the people who are supposed to be doing the buying. The typical CD is immensely overpriced unless you are a fan of that artist and enjoy everything he/she/they record. For most of us it's just not worth the price for a couple of tracks. Microsoft Office for example isn't worth half of what they price it at and a $50 game is just flat out stupid in my opinion.
Where games are concerned I play the demo sometimes. Other times I'll clone a friends copy to check it out. Legality has nothing to do with it. If it's more convienient to borrow and clone then I go that way.
If it's worth buying I'll buy it. In the past year or so I've bought 5 or 6 games like that. I still think they're overpriced at $50 a pop but if it's a good game I give them their reward.
The same thing goes for new music. Old music I don't pay for. In almost every case where I have older music on my hard drive that I've downloaded or borrowed/ripped then I once owned that LP/8-track/Cassette. The way I see it that music has been paid for. I'm not 100% compliant but for the most part I am.
New music on the other hand is all about not getting ripped off.
Oh, we can decide what to pay now? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Oh, we can decide what to pay now? (Score:3, Interesting)
This is really an interesting thing to watch happen because for the first time in my life I'm watching an industry fighting to keep their product from losing it's value while at the same time a huge number of people are using file sharing to redefine what that product is worth.
This is so much different than someone stealing cars and paying what they can afford for them. First of all a Do
Good points, but I still don't agree (Score:2, Interesting)
As far as leaving the original intact being ju
Re:Good points, but I still don't agree (Score:2)
Price is not the issue. (Score:2)
I'm amazed and disgusted that morality is based on price.
Re:Bill the Cat says.. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Hmmm, don't think so.... (Score:2)
Obviously you're not a Real Geek (tm) - the only place we eat is in front of the computer.