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Andy "Gollum" Serkis Speaks 222

Jondor writes "The BBC has an article in which Andy Serkis answers questions about his role as Gollum. Can't wait so spend a whole 9 hours watching for the full DVD release of LOTR!"
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Andy "Gollum" Serkis Speaks

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  • by RalphBNumbers ( 655475 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:08PM (#5579276)
    It seems ironic to me that they felt the need to do such a horrible job of compositing the actor over his beautifully rendered counterpart.

    Come on people, you don't need this kind of photo-trickery, and when you do it that badly, it really takes away more than it adds. If you're not going to spend the resources to do it right, just don't do it.
  • by gasgesgos ( 603192 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:09PM (#5579278)
    What kind of roll did he have as gollum? does the character of gollum even like rolls? and what about smeagol?

    I would think smeagol is more of a donut man... errr... little slinky thing...
  • heh...roll (Score:5, Interesting)

    by fjordboy ( 169716 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:09PM (#5579279) Homepage
    "...his roll as Gollum"

    hehe..."Roll."

    Besides the typo, I think Andy Serkis did an excellent job. Watching the Oscars get handed out tonight will probably be an unfortunate reminder to Serkis that the Academy just isn't ready for a computer generated actor.

    I think Gollum's performance was amazing, and after reading about it on lordoftherings.net [lordoftherings.net] and watching the little video about Andy Serkis (and from the bonus footage on FoTR), I think it is simply amazing how everything down to the facial expressions came from a real actor. That's just incredible.
    • Re:heh...roll (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Pike65 ( 454932 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:31PM (#5579377) Homepage
      Actually, I never realised quite how much he did do for the part - I just assumed he was a voice actor. I always thought the whole Serkis-for-Oscar-nomination-please people were just being facetious, but I'm inclined to agree with them now.

      In a completely different direction, how did they do the compositing if he was actually in the original shots? Erase him out and then stick Gollum in? Seems like a lot of work.

      That reminds of something the DVD commentry when Bilbo is invisible and running back to Bag End. Either Dominic Monaghan or Billy Boyd said that they shot the scene with Ian Holm in it and then edited him out. I was never quite sure if they were taking the piss or not . . .
      • From what I understand watching the DVD extras and all the stuff on Lotr.net, I think they just used a video overlay technique and actually put the body of Gollum right over Andy. They didn't actually erase him, they just sort of put Gollum right overtop of him. At least, that's how I understand it. That just shows you how much of his action and movements made Gollum.

        Yeah, if you read the article, Serkis talks a lot about some of the stuff he did..he thought he was going to originally be a voice actor
      • Re:heh...roll (Score:3, Informative)

        I can't remember where I read it, but they did the composting by doing all the gollum shots with the actors, then doing the shots without the actors with the exact same camera movements, then hours of painstaking composting where Gollum and the actors actually interacted with each other.
      • They spend 2 years per scene doing it.. that's how.
      • Re:heh...roll (Score:3, Informative)

        by jo_ham ( 604554 )
        They'd shoot background plates with no actors, the same shots with the actors including Andy dressed in a tight fitting all over suit in one colour, then again on the motion capture stage.

        Using a combination of the background plates, matte shots and the motion capture they can key out the real Andy and put Gollum in his place.

        It takes a long time to do though, and rendering those frames is no picnic.
  • A "roll"? (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    He has a "roll" as Gollum? From what cool bakery did he get that roll?
  • In his spare time.. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Gortbusters.org ( 637314 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:10PM (#5579284) Homepage Journal
    But in my time off I love to go - there's great walking and climbing to do and I go horse riding and canoeing, the scenery's absolutely stunning and so much varied scenery, it's just a wonderful place to explore.

    I would love to visit (or even live in) New Zealand. Unfortunately, it's a quick couple thousand for plane tickets. As for the immigration, they have a lovely point system to keep unscrupulous people out (as well as eldery from using it as a retirement center) -- way to go NZ!
    • by donnz ( 135658 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:39PM (#5579410) Homepage Journal
      As an immigrant I can definately agree that would NZ benefit from more of us! Seeing the xenophiobic discussion in /. during the recent H1-B story [slashdot.org] made me think we were not alone with stupid immigration laws and attitudes. I won't even go close to that troll from Australia...

      On topic, there has been a great LOTR exhipition in Wellington [wcc.govt.nz] at Te Papa (the Natinal Museum) [tepapa.govt.nz]. Lots of vidoe clips, that I guess will come out on DVD, explaining how things were done, along with costumes and props. The best video was the one showing a clip of Gollum from the film against Sarkis. They took the entire movement and facial expressions from him. He was shot three times over, at least for each scene. Once with the other actors (that's him wrestling with Sam), once doing all the physical movements so that they could animate Gollum accurately and once doing the voice overs and facial expressions.

      I wish we'd [catalystmultimedia.com] designed the web site!
      -------------
      • Your Museum link is broken. It should be here [tepapa.govt.nz]. Very cool exhibition, but it finishes at the end of the month. Apparently, some of the items will then be used for RotK reshoots, and then the exhibition will tour overseas for a couple of years.

        Funny thing is that it costs as much to see the exhibition as the movie.
      • You know, part of the value of New Zealand is that it isn't overflowing with people. Vast flows of people in would ruin exactly what they're coming to see (cf Bali, Hawaii).
  • by Flak ( 55755 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:10PM (#5579286) Homepage
    Come on. These questions are by 10 to 15 year olds! The questions read just like an episode of askslashdot.
    • Yeah, these kiddies weren't exactly hard-hitting were they? I have a quarrel with Oliver, 14 who asked, "Did you feel intimidated working with such a high profile cast?" Pardon me, but the cast of LOTR was high profile? I didn't think they had any real big names in there. Sure, Ian McKellen was quite well respected but that's different than high profile. He certainly doesn't draw the kind of attention that $CURRENT_HOLLYWOOD_STAR does or the attention that $FORMER_HOLLYWOOD_STAR and Sylvester Stallone did.
      • Re:trollbait away! (Score:3, Informative)

        by gmuslera ( 3436 )
        Ian McKellen was the bad guy in X-Men, so is a bit actual. Hugo Weaving was an agent in Matrix, also very actual.Christopher Lee is almost a legend, maybe it not appear a lot on modern movies (?) but it is on most of the clasical horror movies. And Elijah Wood has acted in a lot of actual movies, including Deep Impact. And not forget Cate Blanchett and Liv Tyler.

        I think that a 14 years old boy would know most of this actors, saw previos movies with them in leading roles, but probably they hear about Andy

      • Uh, I forget this from the previos answer. What you think that will recognize a 14 years old guy? this ones [geocities.com] as the good guys or those [geocities.com] as the entire cast?
  • by Telex4 ( 265980 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:11PM (#5579290) Homepage
    Great! Golum's part was really funny - in fact it had me rofl (roleing on the floor laughing)!
  • by mesach ( 191869 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:11PM (#5579293)
    when I watched some sort of "the making of" that golum looks like a strung out version of him...

    I know that animators some times get thier inspiration from the voices of the actors (Jeremy Irons as Scar in the Lion King), and that he also did the acting for it, but this was uncanny
  • by frankthechicken ( 607647 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:11PM (#5579294) Journal
    Yeah it's quite surprising, I didn't think I'd get recognised as much as I do but because the animators designed the facial structure of how Gollum actually looks on screen to be very close to mine

    I feel truly sorry for the poor guy.
  • Expected.. (Score:3, Funny)

    by Metallic Matty ( 579124 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:13PM (#5579301)
    As expected, throughout the interview he made several references to what he called "his precious" in a rather creepy, serpentine voice.
    • was this:

      Intafah, 14, London

      If you could get any one thing from the set of Lord of the Rings what would you take home to keep?

      Andy Serkis: I think it would have to be the precious.


  • lol! (Score:5, Funny)

    by fjordboy ( 169716 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:14PM (#5579302) Homepage
    These questions are hilarious! What is this? A bunch of kids asking questions? Oh...

    This one was probably my favorite:
    Who do you think would win in a fight between Gollum and Dobby?

    Andy Serkis: I think Gollum probably would, I think Dobby would probably knock himself out.

    So true.
    • Actually yes they are a bunch of kids. If you look at the name of the poster, the number right after that is their age. In most cases it was 13. The amazing thing is that some of the questions were more sophisticated then questions we ask here on slashdot. (remember the Shatner interview?)
    • Actually I thought those were very good questions. Better than the crap you get from Slashdot interviews. (What do you think of xxxx? (where xxxx has nothing to do with why we are interviewing you))

      The question about intruding on the relationship between Frodo and Sam was very good.

    • I found the quality of the questions to at least be on par with that of the average Ask Slashdot.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:17PM (#5579315)
    question: do you like fish?

    Yes, usually quite raw.

    question: do you hate P. Jackson for having you roll around in that cold stream for hours?

    Weees will hasss our revenge.

    question: what is the worst thing about being a computer generated actor?

    Trying to convince people that you have to stop for a real pee and that a virtual pee doesn't cut the mustard.

    question: have you read the book?

    Yes, yes, I've read it about 50 times and watched the movie.

    question: did you run away and join the circus?

    You horrible little man take that *blam* *yeeeow*

  • by Anthony Boyd ( 242971 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:19PM (#5579322) Homepage

    ...comes at the end of the interview. Apparently, there is talk about the Hobbit being done as a TV miniseries. Andy replies to this by saying, "Well I'd heard that it wasn't a TV series, that it was going to be another movie but I mean there have been various rumours about it." Whatever the case, it looks like my LOTR DVD collection will eventually include the Hobbit. I hope Ian reprises his role.

    • Ian McKellen probably would, as he is cited as the one plating the idea in Peter Jackson's head.
      Ian Holm, alas, will probably be too old to play a young Bilbo, prostetics and computer help nonwhitstanding. They'd probably get a younger actor who looks like a young Holm, which probably would not be too bad (after the LOTR movies, Jackson's cating people have my full trust).
  • by YokuYakuYoukai ( 570645 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:24PM (#5579344)
    Gollum could definatly take Jar Jar in a fight. I don't think it would even be close.
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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:31PM (#5579374)
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  • Spoiler Alert! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by po8 ( 187055 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:31PM (#5579378)

    Philip: How do you see your character developing in the Return of the King?

    Andy Serkis: I don't want to give too much away actually...

    Insightful question (remember, this is the adult interviewer asking) and answer. Now that he's seen the scripts, just think how much money Serkis could make selling the secret ending to LotR!

    [Please tell me the above is just a joke, BTW. They wouldn't change the ending. Would they?]

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:46PM (#5579431)
    Some of his answers seem a bit far out, especially the one concerning what Smeagol would do with the ring if he finally got it:

    Elizabeth, 6, Madison USA
    What do you think Gollum would do if he actually got the Ring back?

    Andy Serkis: That's a good question. I think Gollum would probably want to try and turn back time so he could go back to being Smeagol before he killed his cousin for the Ring.


    Which, of course, is not at all what LotR tells us (Gollum even says outwardly that that he'd pay everyone back). That said, it seems somewhat odd that the actors haven't read the book, or if they have they haven't read it very closely.
    • That seemed like a very strange answer to me too, but he did say that he read all the books. He particularly based the movements of his character on Tolkein's descriptions.
    • It's plain in the interview that he has read the book closely -- multiple times!

      I thought the answer was a little weird myself. It may have to do, however, with his characterization of Gollum. Serkis seems careful to make sure that the pathetic comes through in his portrayal, in addition to the malice.

      Gollum is a warped creature; and maybe Serkis believes, in creating the character for screen, that somewhere, deep down, Gollum knows knows what the ring has cost him and regrets it.

      • "Gollum is a warped creature; and maybe Serkis believes, in creating the character for screen, that somewhere, deep down, Gollum knows knows what the ring has cost him and regrets it."

        It is said plainly many times that Gollum both loves and hates the ring, both in the books and the movie adaptation. Perhaps Serkis is playing to that more to the surface to give the character a little more depth.

        I always wondered if Gollum was playing the hobbits for a chance to take the ring, or if he was actually trying
    • You're forgetting that the characterization of Gollum/Smeagol in the movie differs drastically from that of Gollum in the books. I doubt that Elizabeth, aged 6, has read the books. I think it's safe to say that Serkis is answering based on Jackson's vision of the character in the movies, not Tolkien's vision of the character in the books.
  • by Faust7 ( 314817 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @03:56PM (#5579451) Homepage
    Not meant as a knock against Serkis or anything, I think he did a fantastic job, but for me the definitive voice of Gollum has always been Brother Theodore from the animated films. It was rough, accented, relentless, and always carried a faint flavor of the disrepute that eventually overtook Gollum's character (under-the-surface foreshadowing, love it). By comparison I found Serkis' voice to be squeaky and just not quite as substantial, though very well-acted nevertheless.

    If you're wondering who Brother Theodore is, here's [imdb.com] his filmography. I remeber him best from The 'Burbs as the acerbic Uncle Reuben Klopek, for whom he uses nearly the same voice as he did for Gollum.

  • by SoftwareTechie ( 244191 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @04:05PM (#5579479)
    They're getting stale.

    --
    • at the risk of losing karma over this...that is probably the funniest thing I've seen all day. If I had moderator points (and hadn't already posted like 10 times for this story), I'd totally mod you up.

      What a pun..oh man.
  • Hmm (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Henry V .009 ( 518000 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @04:14PM (#5579523) Journal
    When I hear so much praise heaped on these movies, I get the feeling that most people didn't enjoy Tolkien's books for the reasons that I enjoyed them.

    I liked reading Tolkien because of the atmosphere and mythos he was able to create. I enjoyed how he was able to tie together familiar myths and legends into a new and beautiful work.

    Jackson's movies simply don't share Tolkien's atmosphere. All they seem to share are hobbits, dwarves, elves, orcs, and what not. In fact the movies ultimately fail, in my opinion, because Jackson doesn't recognize that he can't replicate the books on screen and fails to supply the necessary artistic imagination of his own to flesh out the work. What he does add or change is filler. If you are going to adapt a written work for the screen, do it like Kubrick did so often. Ditch the plot and show them what you can make of the work yourself.

    But most people really enjoyed the movies. So do they like Tolkien just because he uses words like 'Ent' and 'Balrog'? It makes me feel a little bit alone.
    • Re:Hmm (Score:5, Interesting)

      by humblecoder ( 472099 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @05:08PM (#5579790) Homepage

      In fact the movies ultimately fail, in my opinion, because Jackson doesn't recognize that he can't replicate the books on screen and fails to supply the necessary artistic imagination of his own to flesh out the work. What he does add or change is filler. If you are going to adapt a written work for the screen, do it like Kubrick did so often. Ditch the plot and show them what you can make of the work yourself.


      And if Jackson had done that, you'd probably have somebody screaming bloody murder that he dared to alter the holy canon of Tolkien. Of yeah, I forgot... in fact you did have people complaining about the changes and omissions (i.e. Bombadil's omission, increased role for Arwen, etc, etc). It goes to show that you can't please everyone, so you might as well concentrate on pleasing yourself. Judging by the interviews I've seen with Peter Jackson, I'd say he was very happy with the final product.

      As far as the Jackson-Kubrik comparison goes, Kubrick had the luxury of adapting books that weren't nearly as popular as the Lord of the Ring books. I mean, how many people have actually read _2001_ or _Clockwork Orange_ or even _The Shining_? I would wager that if you add up the number of people who have read these books combined, the total would be nowhere near the number who have read LOTR. In that sense, he was limited in what he could do.

      To be honest, I am impressed that Jackson was able to inbue the movie with the spirit of the books as much as he did. I was very skeptical when I heard that LOTR was coming out as a film. It didn't seem like the type of books that could be adapted to film, given their scope. However, I thought that he did an admirable job of capturing their feel, given the limitations of the medium. In particular, I thought that the art direction, the sets, and the cinematography really captured the "atmosphere" in the same way that Tolkiens prose did. Apparently, Jackson hired two well known "Tolkien" artists to head up the art direction on the film. They were in charge of the overall designs for the sets, props, and costumes. Their vision for the world of Middle East really helped shape the movie in a very subtle, but profound way. For instance, they used very consistent motifs for all of the sets and props associated with the different cultures of Middle Earth. Some of it was based upon Tolkien's own writings and some of it was based upon their interpretation of the books. The level of care and detail that went into the design process was really amazing - especially for props that had very limited screen time.

      If you want more details, I advise you to watch the "making of" DVD's in the Extended Edition of FOTR. If you are a fan of the atmosphere, like you say, you might gain a new appreciation of the movie.

      • Re:Hmm (Score:2, Interesting)

        King's 'The Shining' was a very popular book when Kubrick made the movie. And the fans did scream bloody murder after Kubrick massacred it. They were wrong. Kubrick's version was one of the greatest horror movies ever made.

        Jackson has pleased the Tolkien fans. However, 'Middle Earth experts' do an atmosphere make. I've seen the spirit of Tolkien in surrealist science fiction movies and in history textbooks. It goes so far because his work had real elements of greatness. I don't see that spirit in m
      • Their vision for the world of Middle East really helped shape the movie

        Vision of Middle Earth, one would think. I'm one to talk, though; I identified a Whopper as coming from McDonalds a few days ago on Slashdot.
  • by SWroclawski ( 95770 ) <serge@@@wroclawski...org> on Sunday March 23, 2003 @04:14PM (#5579526) Homepage
    In other news, David Sedaris will be playing Gollum in the next movie...

    Not only will he keep the ring, but he'll interspese that with witty commentary and stories about his family, being a Christmas Elf and Santa Claus around the world.

    - Serge Wroclawski
    (wondering if anyone will get it)
  • No LOTR Logo/Icon? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by halo8 ( 445515 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @04:20PM (#5579563)
    Why oh Why Dear Slashdot Editors dose Lord of the Rings not have a Logo? Starwars has a Logo.. the Ipod has a Logo.. why dosent LOTR?

    Think about it.. all the Posts that are going to be made over the next +2 Years for LOTR.. Movie Reiviews, Spoilers, Trailers, DVD's, DVD Reviews, Special Ed. DVD's, Cast Interviews, Award Shows, ect.. ect... ect..

    LOTR DESERVES its own Logo/Icon

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  • by Sebbo ( 28048 ) <sebbo@@@sebbo...org> on Sunday March 23, 2003 @04:39PM (#5579655) Homepage Journal
    Philip
    How do you see your character developing in the Return of the King?

    Andy Serkis: I don't want to give too much away actually but obviously Gollum's fate is very much bound up with that of Frodo and Sam and the Ring of course. And so you get to see them continue on their journey and it reaches an enormous climax in Mordor.


    Psst, kid! I know where you can get top-secret information about what happens in Return of the King--it's called a library!
    • Psst (Score:3, Insightful)

      by bonch ( 38532 )
      He's talking character-wise. Obviously, they've played a bit with Gollum's psychosis compared to the books. I imagine he doesn't want to reveal how Gollum's mindset has been fleshedout in the final film, and how he acted it as a result.
      • Precisely. In the books...
        [SPOILER ALERT!]
        [SPOILER ALERT!]
        [SPOILER ALERT!]
        [SPOILER ALERT!]
        [SPOILER ALERT!] ...it seems more like Gollum accidentally falls to his death. After seeing LOTR II, I wonder if Gollum's death will be a bit more willful. Perhaps Gollum will steal the ring and Smeagol will leap into the flames of Mount Doom.
        • I actually hope it plays the opposite way--Gollum gets the ring, Smeagol hesitates and desperately tries to reject, but in the struggle, they stumble off the edge. To me, it would seem a more fitting, tragic ending to the character rather than the martyrdom you suggest. Plus, I don't think even Smeagol could resist the power of the ring in his possession and willfully destroy it like that (if Peter Jackson decides to stay accurate to the overwhelming and corrupting powers of the ring he's been displaying
  • Can't wait so spend a whole 9 hours watching for the full DVD release of LOTR!"


    Only 9 hours? Come on, if you can't watch all 10 1/2 hours of all three extended editions back to back youâ(TM)re not serious! Except of course for the 5 DVD changes.
  • His real name is Smeagol. Don't say the G word, or he'll turn into a homicidal lunatic and start stealing our rings!
  • Ouch (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 23, 2003 @05:21PM (#5579861)
    Josh, 13, Malden
    Is it true that you actually had to dive into the freezing cold water in the scene by the waterfall yourself and if so what was that like?

    Andy Serkis: Yeah it's absolutely true, they spent the whole morning before we actually shot that scene - the whole mountain was under cover of snow and the crew had to defrost this entire area using high pressure hoses and wind machines and all sorts of things and then -
    but the water was still sub-zero - and so when I went into the water it was absolutely freezing, I could hardly move, my whole body froze up and we had to repeat the scene a few times. But it is true we did do that.



    Wouldn't it hurt diving into ice? :-/
    • Depends if there was any salt (or other dissolved things) in it. Salt water freezes a few degrees below zero.
    • Others have pointed out the possibility of supercooled water; I would point out that whereas 0 centigrade is freezing, 0 fahrenheit is not, though it would seem odd for an englishman in a movie from new zealand would be thinking in Imperial units ;).
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Hannah, 16, Sutton I noticed that loads of the actors on Lord of the Rings had to have prosthetics. Are you particularly glad you didn't have to go through that? Andy Serkis: Well funnily enough in the third film - I'll let you into a bit of a secret - I did have to go through that but I'm not going to say anymore.

    So....... erm..... my guess would be that he means he gets a cheeky cameo as a normal "human" actor. Playing an elf or dwarf or something in the corner of one scene.

    Any other interpretatio

  • Shrek (Score:3, Interesting)

    by gmuslera ( 3436 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @08:00PM (#5580501) Homepage Journal
    Today in Cinecanal they show "Shrek" (here in spanish).

    As the movie was translated (not subtitled), the part at the start where they put the names of Mike Myers, Cameron Diaz, Eddie Murphy and John Lithgow, that did the "voices" was cut. Now, if the character's expression was taken from their acting while they did the voices, I think that this was unfair with those actors, in the same sense that they are doing with Serkis with Gollum, their acting was more than only put the voices.

  • And would save Peter Jackson Millions in special effects :)
  • The final extended version DVD (Christmas 2004, anyone?) will probably be at least 12 hours, not including 'making of' and commentary footage.
  • S: I think Andy Serkis deserves an Oscar nomination for playing Gollum in The Two Towers.

    G: No!! We hates him, hates him!

    S: What are you talking about? He did a wonderful job!

    G: No! He ruined the precious with all his nasty scampering about!

    S: Oh come on! His was far and away one of the most interesting performances in the movie.

    G: No! Not he, it. Yessss, it, horrible machine with all its nasty little bits running like ants! We hates the terrible computer eye, hates it! HATES IT! No, we keeps the precious little statue...
  • by use_compress ( 627082 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @12:14AM (#5581542) Journal
    from Anthony Lane of The New Yorker
    Gollum, who guides Frodo on his quest, is white-skinned and blue-veined, like a moldering cheese, and his shrunken frame is topped by a triangular head with protruding eyes. Think of Ross Perot after ten years on the Atkins diet, and you're almost there.
    http://orlijah.net/archive/article108.html
  • ... or it seems like Nathalie Portman has been displaced by Gollum as the most talked about cinematic celebrity in /. ?

    Disturbing.
  • Wouldn't the full LOTR be over 12 hours on completion? The first two films are already close to or greater than 3 hours in the theater, and the DVD release of TFotR is well over 3 hours. A full DVD release should be much closer to 12 hours.
  • CG Hair (Score:2, Funny)

    by PegQuin ( 306581 )
    Does Gollum's hair look more real than Andy's, or is it just me?

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