


RIAA CEO Hilary Rosen to Become CNBC Commentator 304
alen writes "According to a story by the New York Post the CEO of the RIAA is stepping down. She is going to be an anchor on CNBC. Maybe this is going to signal a change in the way record companies think about file sharing?"
Jeezus (Score:3, Funny)
don't count on it (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:don't count on it (Score:5, Funny)
More like a sphincter.
Re:don't count on it (Score:3, Interesting)
What if... *shudder*.... she was a moderating voice amongst the companies?
Scary thing is.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Not that I'm defending all those PR statements she made, or anything like that.
Re:Scary thing is.... (Score:5, Interesting)
I mean would you want to work with a consortium that takes more pleasure in suing defensless college studants than actually producing a viable product? I don't blame her for stepping down. Any other sensible person would have done the same.
Given her experience with the RIAA though, I would be curious to see what stance she takes as a commentator.
Re:Scary thing is.... (Score:4, Interesting)
-j
Re:Scary thing is.... (Score:3, Insightful)
a) If you were there, and no one else was making sense, isn't the best thing to try to fix things from the inside? There are plenty of people (unsuccessfully) trying to talk reason to the RIAA from the outside already.
b) If she's covering ass so she can play both sides as a journalist, that sounds good to me. How much have we heard both sides of piracy so far?
I've never once heard a hint of sarcasm when "journalists" read the RIAA's statistics on how bad they're doing or how many gazillions o
Re:don't count on it (Score:2)
Damn, and I'm out of mod points.
B5 quote... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:don't count on it (Score:5, Informative)
If Hilary Rosen did not make the policy, who did? Which particular people should we know about who are pulling the strings?
President Cary Sherman [riaa.com]? The board of directors [riaa.com]? Jack Valenti [mpaa.org] of the MPAA?
Re:don't count on it (Score:3, Insightful)
The stockholders (possibly including your relatives and even you, if y'all have any money invested in mutual funds). Most of them are over 40, don't know or care what a "P2P" is, and don't want to lose what's left of their retirement investments just so college students can download songs for free.
Good luck convincing them that the RIAA needs to die or radically change...
Re:don't count on it (Score:5, Funny)
Compilation error: Bad syntax at line 1.
Words like "change" and "think" cannot be used in a sentence along with "record companies".
Re:don't count on it (Score:5, Funny)
Sorry Slashdotters - the Simpsons were making fun of people just like you!
beware recording industry! (Score:2)
And in other news... (Score:3, Funny)
Fat chance! (Score:5, Interesting)
Fat chance, considering who wants to replace her! [wired.com]
Re:Fat chance! (Score:2, Funny)
That reminds me: I've got no U2 mp3s on my puter, better go get some off Kazaa.
Re:Fat chance! (Score:4, Informative)
That reminds me: I've got no U2 mp3s on my puter, better go get some off Kazaa.
How old are you that you don't remember that Mary Bono [house.gov] is the widow of Sonny Bono [cnn.com] (of "Sonny and Cher" fame), and not the Bono you've just mentioned [ascap.com]?
:P
Re:Fat chance! (Score:5, Funny)
The proper way to screw the Bono estate (Score:2)
The proper way for U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents to screw the Bono estate is to sign a petition [petitiononline.com] to pass a law [eldred.cc] to take a bite out of the Bono Act [pineight.com].
Re:Fat chance! (Score:3, Interesting)
People in powerful high-paying positions like that often don't step-down so much as they are asked to step down. Is it possible that the record companies are looking for someone who's even more of a total bitch than Rosen? Like Bono perhaps?
hrmm (Score:2)
Re:Fat chance! (Score:2, Interesting)
Basically, many people want everything here to be free. It's not that they're inconsistent, it's just that in a world where some individuals and corporations would take the free product of open-sources and turn it into closed-source products you use their same copyright laws against them to make sure it doesn't happen.
Nice troll though.
Fewer new titles? (Score:2, Interesting)
Most seem to be under the delusion that P2P networks don't hurt sales.
Does P2P file sharing hurt record sales more than a slow economy and fewer new titles [theregister.co.uk]?
And many who aren't under that delusion believe that a one-line disclaimer saying "don't use this software for copyright infringement" is plausible deniability.
In the USA: If a product is capable of substantial non-infringing use, then making or selling that product is not contributory infringement of copyright in works that the product is able
Uh oh. (Score:5, Funny)
Hilary Rosen anagram = HORNY SAILER (Score:5, Funny)
(want to piss her off? mod this post insightful!)
Re:Hilary Rosen anagram = HORNY SAILER (Score:2)
Re:Hilary Rosen anagram = HORNY SAILER (Score:2)
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is real horny
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Courtesy of The Internet Anagram Server [wordsmith.org].
Thanks, I'll be here all week.
Actually, this is strategic. (Score:3, Funny)
No dearth of crazies to take the helm (Score:4, Insightful)
Somehow, the crew of the ship just doesn't understand that its about to capsize. Or they're too afraid to break their contracts and mutiny.
Re:No dearth of crazies to take the helm (Score:2, Interesting)
of course (Score:4, Interesting)
CNBC (Score:2)
Its a business channel.
The vast majority of viewers are stock traders. Not the target RIAA is aiming for.
What about Orrin Hatch (Score:2, Informative)
Mouthpiece or policymaker? (Score:5, Insightful)
On the other hand, this story is posted with the question "Maybe this is going to signal a change in the way record companies think about file sharing?"
This seems rather silly, also noting that Rosen is stepping down to become a news commentator, aka a talking head, aka a mouthpiece. I have very little inclination to believe that Rosen has had, or will have any large influence on RIAA policy. Am I wrong?
-Greg
Re:Mouthpiece or policymaker? (Score:2, Interesting)
My CDs? Since when have they been my cds? I only pay money to purchase them. Has the US Govt suddenly decided that because somebody's paid money for something that it actually belongs to them??
Re:Mouthpiece or policymaker? (Score:5, Informative)
1) The physical media - the CD itself
2) The right to listen to that physical media
You are not purchasing the music itself - your rights in terms of how you may use that music are limited. This has a strong basis in copyright law. Ever wonder what, "All Rights Reserved" means? The artist in question reserves all rights to their work, their intellectual property.
Copyright legislation can be found at Title 17 [cornell.edu] US Code. You can read all about it, but the gist is that you don't buy the copyright, or any rights, other than those that the copyright holder is willing to give you - in the RIAA's case, they say you only have the right to listen to your CDs in private. Deal with it.
Copyright law has an important purpose, it protects the rights of those who generate the IP. This encourages people to do this, adding to the culture and technological prowess of our nation. Without copyright laws, Musicians, Authors, Poets, Software companies, and others would be either unable to make money or would recieve greatly diminished returns.
What kind of music will you be listening to when Radiohead has to work the day shift at the 7-11 just to make ends meat? Perhaps J.D. Salinger's work would have been better if he had worked full time as an accountant and only wrote on the weekends? By denying copyright protection, that is what you create, a rotting cesspool of a nation with diminished culture (art/music/literature/etc). You would surely stifle technological advancements, why would a software company even bother to invest their money in research if others can benefit from their work at a far-lesser cost?
Re:Mouthpiece or policymaker? (Score:2)
What kind of music will you be listening to when Radiohead has to work the day shift at the 7-11 just to make ends meat?
This is just BS. In human society it is always possible to turn musical (or literary) talent into fame and it is always possible to turn fame into money. Beethoven and Shakespeare did not make money from copyright. They had sponsors, they had live performances, they did commissioned works etc. Once in a while they probably even did art for its own sake without worrying about who would
Re:Mouthpiece or policymaker? (Score:2)
Re:Mouthpiece or policymaker? (Score:2)
Radiohead and other really, really good bands will get my money, simply because I like them. The crap will not, and perhaps, those who aren't good enough to produce more than a few good tracks shouldn't rely on their craft for their income. Consider it shareware. If I like it, I'm mor
Re:Mouthpiece or policymaker? (Score:2)
If you could ask Charles Ives, who sold insurance for a living, that question, he'd probably claim just that. To answer your question seriously, I'd probably do what I do now in large part--listen to and buy music by people who do in fact have day jobs (OK,
You a tard or a RIAA shill? (Score:5, Insightful)
Next time, get all of the facts from your bosses before posting. Had you ever heard of Radiohead before getting your assignment?
Radiohead is a case study in the use of Internet promotion:
Radiohead's honour follows the group's decision to ditch traditional marketing methods for their recent album Kid A in favour of internet promotion.
That's from a winter 2000 BBC news article. [bbc.co.uk]
Radiohead is a long-standing Internet success story, and if they'd listened to your friends, they'd be making a hell of a lot less money today.
An increasing number of artists have found that distribution of MP3s via Internet Radio and the networkss your OwN3rZ want to get rid of plus touring and direct sale of CDs at gigs and via the Net is a perfectly reasonable way to make a living. One has to sell a lot less records to make a living when one is getting 90% of the gross profit off a $10 CD than 1% of a $20 CD. Search for Janis Ian on slashdot. She's been making records longer than you've probably been alive. Find out if she thinks the record industry protects the rights of musicians.
With respect to your. . . interesting interpretation of copyright law, was your omission of any mention of "fair use" in your post deliberate, or left out of the RIAA propaganda you obviously based your post on.
Speaking as a published writer, I certainly support reasonable copyright protection. I don't need my copyright extended to 50 or 75 or 1000 years after my death. I don't want anyone to destroy computers by the millions to "protect" my work. I don't want protecting my work to come at the price of eventually forcing consumer electronics development to move out of the US and if EU follows the US lead as it seems to be doing, following software development to India and China. If someone xeroxes a copy of one of my print articles at a public library, I don't want any of your buddies to burn down the library to "protect" my copyright.
Oh, BTW, I'm working with an independent musician now. I can't find any friends willing to host her work for P2P networks because they're afraid of attack by the people who you are being a paid or unpaid mouthpiece for. So promoting her outside the RIAA framework is more difficult. Tell your bosses "Thanks, assholes"...
I don't know if you are on the RIAA payroll or not. You certainly parrot their party line perfectly.
However, since you do such a good job of playing a mouthpiece for RIAA viewpoints, if you aren't getting paid by them, you're awfully stupid. Go to their site and apply for a job. Use your post as proof that you're good at spreading "the good word" in a hostile forum.
Perhaps there are even a few people stupid enough to believe you.
Re:Mouthpiece or policymaker? (Score:2)
Change?! (Score:5, Insightful)
I honestly doubt it (Score:4, Interesting)
If the record industry wanted to save itself, they'd drop the cost of CDs down to $8 or less and partner with someone like Apple to deliver a real legal digital music service. Then they might find a more sympathetic ear in regards to piracy.
Re:I honestly doubt it (Score:2)
Hum. I think it is pretty clear that the record labels will keep fighting to get the old days back.
What I don't understand is that the artists haven't realized that they don't need record labels anymore. They can record their songs for cheap and sell them over the
She might change her opinion on digital media (Score:5, Interesting)
Afterall, she was simply the talking head for RIAA - when Hilary Rosen speaks out against P2P, it's not because Rosen hates P2P, but rather it's because the five record companies tell her to do so. I recall reading articles on Rosen quietly expressing frustration at times with the record companies' unwillingness to compromise or embrace new business models.
She obvious has a very strong domain of knowledge in the recording industry, and now that she's free from the shackles of being the public face of RIAA, I'm actually looking forward to hear her personal opinion on digital distribution.
What's the differerence (Score:5, Interesting)
Someday naming your daughter Hillary will be as favorable as naming your son Adolph.
Re:What's the differerence (Score:2, Funny)
For some people of a certain political persuasion that someday has already come.
Re:What's the differerence (Score:3, Insightful)
Amen. We've seen some real dumb shit Hillarys in the news over the past few years.
I think that "someday" is upon us.
no differerence (Score:3, Insightful)
No difference they are owned by the same people. They and different but identical people own the RIAA member companies as well. So, the opions are the same. How else could a corporate loudmouth be taken seriously as a journalist unless journaists mostly reported for corporate loudmouths?
Every aspect of traditional electronic publishing is regulated, degenerate and obsolete. It's not a free press and their choice of talking heads only proves the poin
Re:What's the differerence (Score:2)
NBC is the core company. They have a local network in many places. It too is called NBC.
CNBC, is the cable network for NBC.
MSNBC is the brainchild of MS and NBC (der). Geared more towards news.
Couldn't you use google?
No it wont (Score:2, Insightful)
No, it will just signal a change (read: increase) in the amount of negative media attention that file swapping gets
Or maybe.... (Score:4, Interesting)
MAYBE, they will replace her with somebody ten time s worse? Considering her lack of accomplishments (i.e. all those evil filesharers are still walking free) I wouldn't be suprised.
Re:Or maybe.... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Or maybe.... (Score:2)
But in all seriousness, why would he want to work directly for the RIAA? As a senator he can take bribes (oh I'm sorry they don't call them bribes anymore) AND make a senators wages, at the same time!
She better be damn good looking (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, and her opinions, as before, will be wrong, wrong, WRONG!
(Who was the liar who told Hilary the public wants to hear more of her rants anyway?)
Actually, she howls at the moon! (Score:2)
Re:She better be damn good looking (Score:2)
But instead of presenting them as "an industry representative" she'll sneak them in as uncontested truths seen from the birds eye view of the expert commentator. Not what I'd call progress...
Top 10 New Career Moves: (Score:5, Funny)
9. Box Lesbians in Japan.
8. Become a "consultant".
7. Start Rosen.com, publish a super duper blog and live off ad revenue.
6. Join Kathy-Lee Gifford on her music tour.
5. Write a book!
4. Star in Playboy's "Women of the Internet" issue.
3. Go into rehab.
2. Get married to Ted Turner- make lotsa babies!
1. Get a job with those scumbags at CNBC....
Re:Top 10 New Career Moves: (Score:3, Funny)
Don't copy, don't copy my vagina!
My vagina is licensed for only one orgasm. In order to use my image to enhance your masturbation, you must buy a copy for each ejaculation. My image can not be used at circle jerks as it's a violation of copyright laws.
Re:Top 10 New Career Moves: (Score:3, Funny)
-- Captain Chaos
Re:Top 10 New Career Moves: (Score:3, Funny)
um, have you seen [google.ca] Ms. Rosen? I don't think you could pay playboy to print that...
We can only hope... (Score:2)
Lets Fvcking hope so.
Mary Bono wants the job (Score:4, Interesting)
I saw a bit about Mary Bono wanting the job a few days ago. Here's a link to the wired story [wired.com] This can't be a good thing considernig the 1998 copyright extension bill bares her late husbands name.
Yea, she volunteered to be RIAA president (Score:2, Flamebait)
Fact is, if Rosen didn't agree with those positions, she wouldn't have been doing that job.
Re:Yea, she volunteered to be RIAA president (Score:4, Funny)
so, either she... (Score:2)
Neither is particularly flatterous towards her.
Fair and unbiased (Score:2)
I did NOT have a sarcasm tag on that last statement. It was all in your head.
Too bad ... (Score:3, Insightful)
Like Fox is the only biased news channel. (Score:2)
This is horrible! (Score:2)
in the words of yoda (about the sith) (Score:2)
always two there are, no more, no less, a master, and a apprentice.
only time will tell which she was/is...
Hillary (Score:2)
CNBC + RIAA = ? (Score:2)
It probably signals that CNBC is going to support RIAA in a big way.
Oh, god... (Score:5, Funny)
$5 says it was a settlement. The RIAA caught CNBC people sharing music at work and rather than sue the pants off them, they offered her a show.
Maybe this is like Heathers... (Score:2, Funny)
maybe that means...
Hilliary Clinton leaving Senate to head up RIAA.
and that would leave...
Hilary Swank quits her acting career to become NY Senator!
Re:Maybe this is like Heathers... (Score:2)
Rosen just a mouthpiece? NOT! (Score:4, Insightful)
Many of you keep saying Hilary was just a mouthpiece of the RIAA and had no hand in setting policy. You actually think that she might turn out to be some kind of ethical human being after leaving the RIAA.
Let me give you a bit of a wake-up call: if she were an ethical human being then she wouldn't have allowed herself to serve as the RIAA's mouthpiece for any amount of money. Any ethical human being with any concern for the public welfare would have rejected any carrots the RIAA dangled in front of them and given them the big "Fuck you". There are plenty of other jobs out there that deal with media and technology that wouldn't require a daily sacrifice of ethical principles.
No, this is seriously bad news. Now not only is she evil, but she's evil being pumped straight into homes on a nightly basis. It wouldn't surprise me if this move was secretly orchestrated by the RIAA so as to get someone with their bias into the mainstream media in an unsuspecting, insidious way.
Re:Rosen just a mouthpiece? NOT! (Score:2)
Let me give you a bit of a wake-up call: if she were an ethical human being then she wouldn't have allowed herself to serve as the RIAA's mouthpiece for any amount of money.
You know, it is possible to disagree with someone and still think that they are ethical. Some people have a strong ethical negative reaction to music swapping.
hang on a sec... (Score:2, Funny)
A scary combination (Score:5, Interesting)
Boycott CNBC (Score:2)
Even more effective (Score:2, Interesting)
she will help bring truth to this simple good vs. evil story. plus she's always fought the good fight, so she's a patriot too.
what an inspirational piece of news. pass the tums please.
hmm she lied again (Score:2)
Once again lied to and duped..
as long as she is in media in any form its bad news..
well... (Score:2)
This is old 2003-01-23 news (Score:2)
Anchor? (Score:3, Funny)
And in this corner... (Score:2)
RIAA guy (from an old slashdot comment) (Score:2)
borrowed from an old slashdot posting. was so good I kept a copy around. (isn't that appropriate?)
enjoy. its pretty funny (no, I didn't write it).
Bad Ratings Blame? (Score:2)
Good for her. (Score:2, Funny)
Yeah, things'll change, alright. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:attention mozilla users... (Score:5, Informative)
Rosen, who will officially step down from her powerful RIAA post at the end of the month, has inked a deal to be a commentator for CNBC, she recently told music industry executives in an e-mail, a copy of which was obtained by The Post.
Her gig will begin Aug. 1. According to the e-mail, she will discuss politics on the network's evening show, "Capitol Report," and give commentary on the media industry on the shows "Power Lunch" and "Squawk Box."
"They are looking for me to do the larger picture on some of the content convergence and media consolidation issues and know that I have a point of view on many issues as a longtime advocate," she wrote in the e-mail.
She added that she will assist the network in its coverage of Congress and the upcoming presidential election.
Rosen, who has been the chairwoman and CEO of the RIAA since 1998, announced in January her intention of stepping down.
Tim Arango
Re:attention mozilla users... (Score:2, Insightful)
nice.
Re:attention mozilla users... (Score:2)
Accourse, this is on OS X.
Re:Oh great.... (Score:5, Funny)
Didn't Foxnews already do that?
Re:Don't quit now! (Score:2)
Re:New CEO of RIAA (Score:2)