Matrix Reloaded on DVD Before Revolutions 485
SycloneFX noted that the Matrix Reloaded will be
available
on DVD on Oct 14, just 3 weeks before the release of Revolutions. This is noteworthy because normally there are large time spans between releases of DVDs and Sequels (although LotR had a special edition released only a few weeks before TTT).
Yeesh! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Yeesh! (Score:2)
You watch WAY too much Elmo...
Re:Yeesh! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Yeesh! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Yeesh! (Score:5, Informative)
Contrast that with Matrix 2, which was distributed by Warner Bros. in almost every country and which hit within a week of the US release in nearly all of them.
Just something to think about. I don't think there's a conspiracy to screw you just because you're (presumably) in Europe.
Or is there...
Re:Yeesh! (Score:3, Insightful)
You mean how they release a movie on DVD, wait 6 months, then screw the customer when they intentionally release a special edition of the DVD with never-before-seen footage, extra commentary, etc...
They definitely give you a reason to buy their products, or re-buy their products..
Mark my words -- next year we'll see a Mat
Re:Yeesh! (Score:5, Funny)
If only I had a choice not to buy all of those DVDs, what a wonderous world that would be.
Re:Yeesh! (Score:5, Insightful)
If you don't want to play their game then don't buy the initial product. It is a *choice* you must make- whether to succumb to instant gratification or delay gratification until a point where you can maximize your enjoyment. The motion picture industries are continuing a time-honored tradition of exploiting the human desire for instant gratification. Exploitative? Maybe. Cynical? Absolutely. Wrong? I don't believe so.
Personally, I think this plan is marketing genius- the people who see the DVD are going to remember how very cool the second movie was and will be even more exciting about seeing the third film. Cynicism aside, it's probably the best way to promote co-produced sequels like this, and I'm glad that for once the studios seem to be showing a little bit of respect for a film.
Re:Yeesh! (Score:3, Insightful)
Sure, it's not illegal, but it's not really immoral IMO. Plus, the only thing a corporation understands is monetary feedback. If you hold off on buying the movie, but buy it later when it has the features you want, then it sends a clear signal that you want the special features. Meanwhile, if you are going to buy it later, you're not stealing the content, you're
Re:Yeesh! (Score:5, Funny)
Well then, keep a stock of NyQuil gelcaps on hand for the trick-or-treaters. That oughta send 'em back to dream world.
So he was correct! (Score:4, Informative)
And then the quote from Morpheus:
You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
...Both meaning you want to exit the matrix. Staying in wonderland is a bit misleading, as it implies the made-up world that is the matrix, but I believe the Wachowski brothers did that intentionally. Morpheus can only show "how deep the rabbit hole goes" if neo steps out of the matrix. The next comparison should cement this point.
Cynikal's post:
And the quote from Morpheus:
You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.
Once again, a bit misleading, since the story ending implies leaving the matrix. However, you can only believe whatever you want to believe if you're still in the matrix.
The clincher is that Neo swallows the red pill in order to exit the matrix.
I'll wait. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'll wait. (Score:3, Funny)
Carrie Ann Moss is Bill's mom, and she's still hot. Remember when she was a Senior, and they were Freshmen?
Re:I'll wait. (Score:2)
That was my stance after having seen the original Star Wars Trilogy...
That's STILL my stance as of Episode II.
The plan all along... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The plan all along... (Score:3, Funny)
Um. The cliffhanger was that the only survivor was the guy "possessed" by Agent Smith. You know, the guy who's trying to kill Neo? Admittedly, it's kind of hard to tell because he's upside down.
"The Whatchamacallit brothers". Now that's comedy!
Re:The plan all along... (Score:5, Insightful)
The single survivor is none other than Agent Smith.
The body is that of the person Smith punches in the chest, then dials out of the Matrix in Neo's prophecy/dream. He's also the guy who cut his hand up with a knife while preparing to stab Neo in Zion, before he was interrupted. Undoubtedly he's the reason the EMP went off early and caused the counterattack to fail miserably, too.
heh (Score:2)
For those who are waiting for the DVD before seeing the movie, did I mention SPOILER WARNING?
The "guy on the table right across from Neo" is Smith...now, whether that makes the cliff-hanger better or not, I don't know, but since nobody in their right mind would describe the awesome Agent Smith as "the guy on the table right across from Neo", I figured you might actually not be a troll, and might actually not have realized that.
Re:The plan all along... (Score:2, Insightful)
I walked out of the room when I say The Matrix because of the junior high philosophy being thrown at me, but this was totally beyond that. This was absolute disregard for self consistancy. How do you get premonitions in the real world about w
Re:The plan all along... (Score:5, Funny)
Because there is no
Re:The plan all along... (Score:3, Insightful)
Thus, not only is "Neo" an anagram of "One", he really IS "The One"... the integral sum of remainders. The number one.
I loved that. I dunno why, but I just thought it was cool.
Re:The plan all along... (Score:3, Insightful)
Overtime, the machines devised a method of keeping the human mind content -- by offering them the choice. They could choose to live in the Matrix, or they could choose to live in "the real world" and fight against the Matrix. Hence, the red and blue pills.
W
That's funny... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:That's funny... (Score:2)
Additional Content (Score:5, Interesting)
From the article:
While both the VHS and DVD will be priced for sale to consumers, the DVD includes several bonus features that should boost sales, such as a behind-the-scenes look at how the freeway chase scene was crafted and shot and the humorous parody of "The Matrix Reloaded" that was featured on the 2003 MTV Movie Awards.
The extra content, in this case anyway, might well be worth the investment in the DVD. Any word on "Easter Eggs" on this one like there was in the original??
I disagree. (Score:5, Informative)
This seems like a pretty half-assed DVD to me. We all know the term "Special Edition" has no meaning anymore, but it's pretty obvious they've rushed this out to coincide with the release of Revolutions.
Take a good look at those "bonus features." [dvdfile.com] It's a few featurettes, the kind of vapid press release crap you see on HBO before the movie's released. No commentary. No deleted scenes. Why do they need a second disc for this?
There's already talk of a genuine special edition [cinescape.com] (scroll to the bottom of the article), after the Wachowskis are done with the Revolutions hoopla. If you're not willing to buy a movie twice, you're going to be kicking yourself later.
Re:Additional Content (Score:5, Interesting)
Interesting - I thought that Tank was written out because the Watchkowskis came to their sense and realized that the guy who played him had the acting skills of a four-year-old suffering from ADD after drinking 10 litres of Jolt Cola.
I had no idea the guy was such a boob.
From the site:
"In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Chong claims he crashed a press junket, took food from WB production offices and verbally harrassed the Wachowskis via phone."
So, let me get this straight - a no-talent hack asked for too much money - after they tell him they're not interested, he made verbal threats against the Watchkowskis, harrasses them, admits it on national television, then files a lawsuit against them for not giving in, and now he's looking for my sympathy?!?!?!
Jebus, what color is the sky in this guy's world?
Re:Additional Content (Score:3, Funny)
Likely a slight tint of green.
Re:"Investing" in DVDs (Score:3, Insightful)
I want to reward stuff that I like, so they can keep on making more of that stuff. I'm voting with my wallet.
One of the problems I see, is that a lot of people don't vote with their wallet anymore, which skewers the types of projects that are undertaken. (Although when it comes to movies, the CW is rather positive I think)
Great... (Score:5, Funny)
Even better, I can loop it and leave it on 24/7. I'm sure everyone in the apartment will love it!
Re:Great... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Great... (Score:3, Funny)
Also, I was thinking, "Oh, okay. So all these people were 'saved' from the Matrix into dance party hell?"
Quicker than the Animatrix (Score:2)
New branding strategy (Score:2, Funny)
PEZ? (Score:2, Funny)
They cannot deny me my life giving PEZ!!!
Re:New branding strategy (Score:3, Interesting)
I wonder... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I wonder... (Score:2, Funny)
I somehow feel happy it does not run Linux. We would never escape.
Re:I wonder... (Score:5, Funny)
Theres a KB Article on it:
The information in this article applies to:
Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 for Matrix
Microsoft Windows for Matrix 3.11
Microsoft Windows Matrix 95
SYMPTOMS
Matrix reloads
CAUSE
Neo chooses wrong door
RESOLUTION
To work around these errors, rename the file door2.mtx to door1.mtx, or copy the door2.mtx file to another location. You may also be able to work around these errors if you remove unnecessary files from the root directory.
I wish I could mod higher than 5. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I wonder... (Score:3, Informative)
(English) download links page here. [matrix-xp.com]
Re:I wonder... (Score:3, Funny)
http://www.str8dog.com/matrixkb/
The Domimatrix (Score:5, Funny)
Matrix: RECARGADO (Score:4, Funny)
so it looks to be the most mellow matix so far.
neo! he fights! he flies! he smokes marijuana! then he leans on shit for a while!
Re:The Domimatrix (Score:2)
-russ
Re:The Domimatrix (Score:5, Funny)
I did think hot, sweaty, and sticky Carrie Ann Moss.
Now it's My Pants Reloaded.
How is early bad? (Score:3, Insightful)
Good! (Score:5, Funny)
And with the anonymous Kazaa Lite/++ up, that's just enough time for me to download a divx rip without anyone knowing! Whoops, did i post that?! /runs
j/k MPAA, it's meant to be modded Funny, not Informative!
DVD (Score:2, Funny)
Clue me in (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Clue me in (Score:5, Funny)
Is it just me (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Clue me in (Score:2)
As soon as I figure that out, I'll let you know. The Wachowski Brothers tend to be rather cryptic." [imdb.com]
Re:Clue me in (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Clue me in (Score:5, Funny)
Of course, 10 minutes later, Morpheus tells Neo what the Matrix is. Heh...
Re:Clue me in (Score:2, Informative)
Matrix n. [FidoNet] 1. What the Opus BBS software and sysops call
FidoNet. 2. Fanciful term for a cyberspace expected to emerge from
current networking experiments (see the network). The name of the
rather good 1999 cypherpunk movie "The Matrix" played on this sense,
which however had been established for years before. 3. The totality of
present-day computer networks (popularized in this sense by John
Quarterman; rare outside academic
Re:Clue me in (Score:3, Funny)
This is a good thing (Score:2, Interesting)
Probably not, but who cares?
LOTR Release (Score:2)
LOTR: The Two Towers Special Edition DVD - 8/26
LOTR: The Two Towers Extended Edition DVD - 11/18
LOTR: Return Of The King 12/17 Theatrical Release
The Release (Score:5, Interesting)
This is more noteworthy because the DVD is being released less than 6 months after the movie first hit the theaters. That's insanely fast. Of course, so is releasing the next movie in the series without a gap of a at least a year.
But, as the editor pointed out, movies in the LotR series have had DVD releases just prior to the theatrical release of the next film.
Re:The Release (Score:3, Funny)
Theatrical release: Mar 7, 2003
Video release: Jun 10, 2003
You'd practically have to go direct-to-video to beat that.
DecafJedi
Re:The Release (Score:3, Informative)
Tanked? It's number 19 on the ALL-TIME BOX OFFICE with over $270,000,000 [yahoo.com], not including overseas. Worldwide, before all is said and done, it'll probably make $600,000,000. Hell, if that's doing terribly, sign me up.
Re:The Release (Score:3, Interesting)
Not that profit is everything of course, but in this case I think there's a lot to be said for the smaller, more nuanced, and yes probably more profitable movie than the
Will Boost Sales (Score:2)
This is good news.... (Score:4, Interesting)
I was surprised, and wondered if he would really be turned off watching the movie entirely because of the ending - however his plan is to get the DVD, and watch it the day before Revolutions.
Sounds like a good deal for those who haven't seen "Reloaded" yet, as you can see both movies at about the same time if you grab the DVD.
Re:This is good news.... (Score:2, Insightful)
A good story has resolution. A soap does not. That ended like a soap and resolved NONE of the issues it brought up. It did not advance the story. I was NOT pleased. In fact I was very disappointed. They put too much money into frills and not enough into the fundamentals.
Re:This is good news.... (Score:5, Insightful)
You are NOT very observant, then.
Here's how it worked. The Whatchamacallit Brothers went to Village Roadshow/WB and said, "Here's our script. It's 300 pages long."
VR/WB said, "Great. Love it. Cut 180 pages."
TWB said, "Uh... we'd rather not. How about we make a 5-hour movie instead and release it with an intermission?"
VR/WB said, "Uh... we'd rather not. How about you make two movies?"
TWB said, "Uh... we'd rather not. How about we make one 5-hour movie and split it down the middle, release 'em six months apart?"
VR/WB said, "How much money will this make us?"
TWB said, "Billions."
VR/WB said, "Okie-dokie."
As a result "The Burly Man," the sequel to "The Matrix," is a five-hour movie that's been split right down the middle (not especially at the best place, either) to turn it into two 2-1/2 hour movies.
You watched the first half, got up, and went home. And here you are, bitching about resolution.
Re:This is good news.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:This is good news.... (Score:3, Funny)
Oh no you didn't... you did not just insult my favorite movie EVER... Back to the Future!
Re:This is good news.... (Score:5, Funny)
Oh yeah,
Makes sense to me (Score:5, Informative)
Seems like the logical thing to do. Release a DVD of the last movie, getting the Matrix franchise back in people's minds. People can watch Reloaded to refresh their memories on the plot so far before going to see Revolutions. A buzz builds in anticipation of the upcoming theatrical release.
It's just "strategized marketechture" at work.
Think it twice (Score:5, Insightful)
Its plain stupid to be on a rush and go get the movies in separated DVDs, you'll end with less features, needing to sale them on E-Bay just to buy the final-special-edition.
A shame...
Obvious of course, but... (Score:5, Interesting)
Also, a new and diabolical tactic they are using now is to include different special features on different DVD sets - so the extras here (which look to be pretty good) may well not even be on the Special Ultimate Uranium Edition, or The Matrix Thoughtfully Reconsidered.
Translation: I'm buying the DVD.
Some of us... (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not stupid to buy this DVD if it allows you to watch the first and second movie just before the third one comes out. I don't have an eidetic memory, so don't you think my enjoyment of the third movie would be heightened if I can have the previous one fresh in my mind when I see it?
What I think is stupid is to call other people stupid. You know nothing about me. My wants, desires, needs. My likes and dislikes. My IQ. My common sense. Calling me stupid is an insult to stupid people. Or something.
Saw it last night and was wondering about the dvd (Score:2)
It was a great movie. I'm usually a harsh critic, but this movie I liked and the action scenes were simply awesome. I even liked all the "choice vs destiny" talk although they did lay it on too thick at some times.
build up the hype machine (Score:2)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/vs-summer
Re:build up the hype machine (Score:4, Insightful)
The only metric worth tracking is number of tickets sold. Yet no one ever tracks them.
Not exactly a surprise.... (Score:2)
Keep the hype up, and you'll sell more of both. And with the short release cycles of movies these days (also intended to keep the hype up...), you can release a movie, release the DVD while peo
Newsworthy? (Score:2, Insightful)
that DVD better be high quality.... (Score:5, Funny)
Spoiler **WARNING** (Score:2, Interesting)
This is a good thing... (Score:5, Funny)
Really, any version of the movie where I can skip over the entire Zion sequence will instantly make this movie 10 times better.
Sucker's game. (Score:2)
Resist the urge to buy!!! (Score:2, Interesting)
willpower...fading...must...not...buy...
Re:Resist the urge to buy!!! (Score:3, Funny)
Keanu will come back. Any day now...
Must be some mistake (Score:5, Funny)
About Time (Score:4, Interesting)
BTW, I'm not purchasing this DVD. Why collect media at all anymore? I have only one answer to this. Transport of large amounts is still cheaper and faster by foot. Other than that, Net becoming fast ubiquitous, I think I'll make the leap and commit to media-less entertainment.
Re:About Time (Score:4, Interesting)
Even is you don't want to collect media, you should still buy it so that the people who made it can get paid. Commiting to media-less entertainment hurts the people that entertain you(If I interpreted your comment correctly (I.E. you're just gonna kazaa it))
How many of you waited past closing credits? (Score:5, Informative)
"To be continued..." hurt Reloaded? (Score:5, Interesting)
If you have a movie that ends abruptly, then the main thing that's going to stick in peoples' minds after they get out of the theatre is "Oh God.. I can't want to see the next one.." NOT "I can't wait to see that again." That's why Reloaded fell from first place so quickly. It's not that people didn't like it, but that, apart from the geeks who want to analyze every bit of the movie, nobody is going to go see a movie that leaves them high and dry again and again.
I predict Revolutions is going to dominate the box offices at the end of this year, with people going to see it over and over, because it (should) have a satisfying ending. And, if the studios are smart, they'll make sure to put the whole Matrix+Reloaded+Revolutions 6 hour epic out in limited release in theatres.
Perfect sense... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:huh? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Disgusting (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Disgusting (Score:5, Insightful)
No, not really. The Wachowskis came up with a story that would take 4-5 hours of screen time. They had several choices:
- Make one movie with a running time of 4-5 hours. This would never be accepted by theaters or Warner Bros.
- Cut half of the script, leaving one standard length film. No artist would want half of their work to be thrown out.
- Make two films, each of standard length. This obviously was the preferred choice.
Now, given that two movies were going to be made based on one plot, it made sense to film them together. If you prefer to think of it as one movie with a six month intermission, feel free.
Re:Film... an art?? (Score:5, Insightful)
Unlike the AC that replied to your post, I'm not afraid to put my name to this.
Re:Film... an art?? (Score:3, Insightful)
What indications led you to believe that film was supposed to be an art?
I dunno, probably the intensity of the steps scene in Eisenstien's Potemkin, the sublimity of Kelvin's final vision of Earth in Tarkovsky's Solaris, Wender's angels watching over a divided Berlin in Wings of Desire . . . .
Re:Film... an art?? (Score:4, Insightful)
Even The Matrix, I have never seen another movie that attempts to bring metaphysics to the big screen.
Re:cha ching .. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:cha ching .. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What the flying dutchman is going on here? (Score:3, Insightful)
There's only so much that geeks enjoy. Outside of computer hobbies such as programming and gaming, books, movies, and music make up the vast majority of down time for the average g