TiVo Buys Super Secret Strangeberry 254
Raindeer writes "According to SEC-filings Tivo has bought a start up of Marimba-founder and Java-designer Arthur van Hoff. The name of the startup is Strangeberry Just because of their job-titles they must be building something cool Chief Hackberry, Chief Wiseberry, Chief Smartberry. The SEC-Filings show that it has something to do with delivering broadbandservices to televission. A Dutch web-log claims to have a picture of what they are building. Anybody got anymore ideas on what this could be?"
Are any of them named John Smallberries? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Are any of them named John Smallberries? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Are any of them named John Smallberries? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Are any of them named John Smallberries? (Score:2, Funny)
What it is: (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What it is: (Score:2)
Re:What it is: (Score:4, Funny)
Re:What it is: (Score:2)
The most critical part to the Fembot they are building.
Nerds everywhere are rejoicing.
In the GPL? (Score:2)
--grendel drago
Hackberry, Wiseberry, Smartberry ... (Score:5, Funny)
Sound like a bunch of dingleberries [reference.com] to me.
Re:Hackberry, Wiseberry, Smartberry ... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Hackberry, Wiseberry, Smartberry ... (Score:2)
Re:Hackberry, Wiseberry, Smartberry ... (Score:2)
Translation of the Dutch weblog post (Score:5, Informative)
In een voormalige winkel in Palo Alto zit een start up waarvan de oprichters op een lauwe dinsdagmiddag naar Fry's Electronics zijn gereden om componenten te kopen waaruit ze deze vreemde kastjes hebben gebouwd. Ik denk dat binnen twee jaar iedereen met een DSL- of kabelaansluiting zo'n kastje in huis heeft. Meer mag ik er van de oprichters niet over zeggen, want die hebben de illusie dat ik er veel van snap en dus veel kan verklappen, een tragisch misverstand. Ze zijn heel bedreven in het 'onder de radar' blijven, maar intussen lopen bedrijven als Apple en Google de deur bij ze plat. Ik zie Philips of Shell niet zo snel audientie vragen bij een paar nerds uit Delft. Helaas.
English translation
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Boxes below radar
In a former shop in Palo Alto there's a startup whose founders rode to Fry's Electronics on a tuesday afternoon to buy some components to build these weird cases. I think that within two years, everyone with DSL or Cable will have one in their home. I can't say more from the founders, because they think I understand it (a grave misunderstanding) and can this tell you guys about it. They are very skilled in staying 'below radar' but in the meantime, companies such as Apple and Google are knocking at their door. I can't see Philips or Shell asking for an audience with two nerds from Delft. Pity.
Re:Translation of the Dutch weblog post (Score:4, Interesting)
The hardware won't be what makes this successful or not, it will be the deals they can make with content providers. This is probably where Tivo could help.
I don't have much hope for Strangeberry's success given the entertainment industry's history with new delivery technologies.
Re:Translation of the Dutch weblog post (Score:2)
Re:Translation of the Dutch weblog post (Score:2)
Re:Translation of the Dutch weblog post (Score:2)
They have even started up the wonderfully amateur Suprnova Radio [novasearch.net]. So I don't think they're feeling any kind of pinch.
Take a crack at this link (Score:3, Insightful)
The best I've squeezed out of the online translators are these:Version #1: Near the beursgang with Mary scooter Dutch oppertechneut Arthur with Hoff ( center) once more: he and one's four colleagues gone they ultrageheime start-up Strangeberry, lodged within one store within Palo Alto, upon Tivo. The transaction vond yard worn 12 January j.l. solely Tivo bracht the novelty passport yesterday outward. Established in April 2002 wax Strangeberry yet 'pre revenues, like who thus p
Is that leesbaar for anyone? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Take a crack at this link (Score:5, Informative)
After Marimba went public [(got listen on the stock exchange)], Dutch ubertechnician Arthur van Hoff (center) scores again: he and his four collegues sold their ultra-secret start-up strangeberry, located in a small shop in Palo Alto, to Tivo. The transaction took place on the 12th of januari but Tivo only went public with the news yesterday.
Founded in 2002, Straneberry was still pre-revenue, as they like to call companies who are still developing their technology. The gentlemen are working on a product related to the field of the posting below. After working together at Sun and Marimba, a bond had grown between the two which created a great atmosphere between them. Though occasionally it was hard to not tell friends everything about the activities of Strangeberry. The HIQ in Enschede and the university of Strathclyde are rightfully proud of van Hoff. It's a shame he makes his accomplishments in Silicon Valley, though, and can't pass on his experience in the Netherlands.
A second opinion (Score:2, Funny)
It's always good to get a second translation for comparison. Here's mine, courtesy the translation software that comes with Apple's Sherlock: [apple.com]
just check archive (Score:5, Informative)
Re:just check archive (Score:3, Interesting)
I think the series 2 tivo uses rendezvous, which is the only connection I can think of between the two companies.
You shouldn't food shop on an empty stomach... (Score:3, Funny)
It's a Scooter! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:It's a Scooter! (Score:2)
Must... buy... stock.. NOW!
Re:It's a Scooter! (Score:2)
Re:It's a Scooter! (Score:2)
Segway could have been, and still
Meh, its been done... (Score:2)
They're probably building... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:They're probably building... (Score:2)
sssshhh!! Nobody is supposed to know about the flux capacitor yet.
Re:They're probably building... (Score:2)
Re:They're probably building... (Score:2)
Re:They're probably building a time machine... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:They're probably building... (Score:2)
Maybe they could be persuaded to get Dubya drunk so he'll drop out of the 2000 presidential race?
Whoa! '90's flashback (Score:2, Insightful)
"Chief Smartberry"? - "They must be building something cool, because of their job titles"?
I thought the days of the dot.bomb were OVER!
Seriously - does this look like VC-bait to anybody else? I mean, I love my DirecTivo, but good hardware, good software and a good service do NOT equal good management decisions!
Like so many other things in this world, I will wait and see if a
Re:Whoa! '90's flashback (Score:3, Funny)
Strawberry Shortcake to be specific.
If you can try to remember... (Score:5, Funny)
My Guess (Score:5, Funny)
- Cable Modems
- Router/Hubs
- Breakout Audio/Video Box
- Those artificial flowers that dance when they hear noises
or some combination thereof.
--Stephen
Re:My Guess (Score:4)
sounds more likely a component layer for using your TV as a display medium for communicating with your home network/Broadband connection.
with all the disparate standards between broadcast media sources (HDbroadcast, VHF,UHF,cable,digital cabel,satellite), broadband access (dsl,isdn,cable,etc), and home networks (ipx,tcp,mac - not to mention network file sharing protocols) a component layer makes perfect sense. Particularly if you're in the business of making a consumer set-top product that is aimed to work with anything.
And a component layer of 'berries' doesn't sound too far outside the expertise of a designer responsible for layers of 'beans' now does it?
Just more of the same intended functionality at the end: mp3s on your home audio system, digital photo slideshow on your TV, mpg viewing, perhaps even some measure of web surfing capability. although it'd be flawed for normal sets (webtv != good surfing), HDTV sets have plenty of resolution to surf adequately. The only difference in this endeavor being abstraction to make functionality expandable independent of compatibility - java for your media.
it only makes sense that Tivo would want their hand in such technology, to enhance their existing offering and one-up Replay.
Strangeberry (Score:5, Funny)
Java Rendezvous Development? (Score:5, Interesting)
But, I think this was only a side project... since it seems that development is now moved to Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jmdns/
Someone out there must have some info... (Score:5, Insightful)
It looks like a wireless reciever with something that may hook directly into your home ethernet, pulling media off of your home computers or the net. Maybe a media-centric version of WebTV?
There's lots of people working on these devices, maybe this company has created a nice interface for it? Maybe Tivo wants to purchase a company who has designed a device like this so that you can watch a tivo's playback on another TV without having to have an extra Tivo in the other room?
Hopefully this will be a killer app that will finally cause them to get bought out by a company with more clout, and get the Tivo system liscensed into more devices, making it cheaper and more affordable for me to get multiple tivo's :)
Re:Someone out there must have some info... (Score:3, Interesting)
No patents filed under strangeberry, but the latest Tivo patents [uspto.gov] are interesting.
Mini-ITX (Score:2)
Rus
Computer & TV (Score:4, Interesting)
Let's say you're watching some show, and see some really nice toy, or outfit, or you're in front of your favorite sports/team match, and want to have some player' stats, you click on the item/player and some web page with the desired info is shown to you
Information on demand for the user and a not so obstrusive yet effective ads/marketing scheme for the companies. this could have become the future of television, as more and more people are looking for real interactivity, and coupling TV for content and the web as a large databank would really reconcile me with TV.
At least that was the idea... What makes me think of it is the home network/broadband/experience words in the announcement.
Re:Computer & TV (Score:2)
But apparently they *are* paying you to read
Seinfeld flashback (Score:3, Funny)
JERRY: They sell them by the side of the road. Blueberry, Blackberry
GEORGE: Blackberry, Boysenberry
JERRY: Boysenberry, Huckleberry
GEORGE: Huckleberry, Raspberry...
JERRY: Raspberry, Strawberry
GEORGE: Strawberry, Cranberry
JERRY: Peach.
Not *again*! (Score:2)
Re:Not *again*! (Score:4, Informative)
Think of it this way: Novell have a product called ZenWorks, which sits on top of Novell Directory. Now say Mr I.T. Guy wants to deploy Napster to his 3,000 users. He could go to each of their machines and install it (sure!), he could edit the global shared login script to deploy it (messy, I'll explain in a bit) or he can use a software deployment tool.
Lets go back the the batch script thing. Great idea, but what if someone logs in again a few minutes later - they try to get the software pushed across to them again. Or what if he only wants to deploy it to people within a certain department - or people who have existing software dependancies, or etc...
Novell's ZenWorks allows you to create a "deployment package", which is essentially a wrapper around MSI to call all sorts of clever silent switches so the user gets a seamless experience. The package then has deployment rules, which can be based on LDAP (so organisational structure), dependancies, time of day, etc.. etc.. it also has licensing reporting capabilities built in so you can tell how many licenses of every single software package you can have installed. In truth, its got hundreds of features that you or I may go "who the fsck cares"...
Marimba is pretty much the same thing - although its "open", yeah whatever that means! It also allows application deployment and management across server architectures as well as desktop deployment.
So, no bullshit I'm affraid. These sorts of tools are very useful to either large and/or decentralised IT departments. Other players in this space include:
* Tarantella
* Microsoft SMS (now outdated)
* Microsoft Active Directory Roll-out
* WinInstall
I think Tivoli from IBM may also do some of this as well.
There you go. Whore the Karma!
Re:Not *again*! (Score:2)
Re:Not *again*! (Score:2)
I know at least one product their software was used in: Quicken. Probably a lot more, but I didn't pay that close attention to 'em.
Re:Not *again*! (Score:2)
The first one is software deployment, repair, etc. for desktop applications on your PC. So it can push out new versions of Mozilla by only updating what needs to be updated and run a local repair if things get deleted.
The second thing is emdedded into software for the purpose of updating the software. You essentially have a subscri
Vibrating Eyeballs (Score:2, Funny)
What's in a name? (Score:5, Funny)
The name of the startup is Strangeberry Just because of their job-titles they must be building something cool Chief Hackberry, Chief Wiseberry, Chief Smartberry
"With a name like Smuckers, it's got to be good".
Why does logic fly out the window whenever some kind of berry or other small fruit is involved?
Jobs (Score:5, Informative)
Jobs
Join a world class team. Build potent software. Strangeberry Inc. is looking for smart, independent people who thrive at startups. Here are some of our openings:
GRAPHIC / USER INTERFACE DESIGNER
Graphic designer with experience building interface for consumer digital media applications. Must be creative and a good communicator. Qualified candidates have 3-4 years experience with interactive design and typographic skills. Knowledge of Photoshop and Illustrator required. DVD / Game UI experience a plus.
APPLICATION ENGINEER
Developer with experience creating user interfaces. Must be comfortable with C/C++, Java, Windows and Unix. No VB, please. Qualified candidates have 4-5 years experience building applications.
KERNEL ENGINEER
Linux kernel developer with experience writing device drivers under x86. Qualified candidates have 2-3 years experience working on the kernel. Knowledge of framebuffer internals a plus. Codec experience smiled upon.
Re:Jobs (Score:5, Funny)
Berry Picker
Berry picker with significant experience with berry picking. Must be able to pick wide variety of berry (including non-standard berry formats; goose, huckle, smart, wise, hack). Experience with mushrooms and shines also considered.
Re:Jobs (Score:2)
A guess: DSL router for multimedia (Score:4, Interesting)
It is a TLAN system (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:It is a TLAN system (Score:2)
A Television Local Area Network, so you can view Tivo'd shows/movies anywhere in the house without having to have multiple Tivo machines (or cable boxes). About time someone recognised that TV is nothing but push media that can go across a network just like anything else.
They already have this. It's called home media option, and allows you to watch shows recorded on one tivo on another tivo.
Re:It is a TLAN system (Score:3, Interesting)
Actually, I bet it's a p2p system for your Tivo... wouldn't that be nice? If you forgot to record your favorite tv show no worries, just go on the Tivo p2p network and find someone that did record it.
I'd say that's the Big Thing in Tivo innovation. Is it legal? I can't imagine it not being legal, it's no different then if you watched the show yourself, right?
Strangeberry = Blackberry for TV? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Strangeberry = Blackberry for TV? (Score:2)
I think they're doing everything right. (Score:4, Insightful)
Chief Frankenberry (Score:2, Funny)
Well... (Score:5, Informative)
Anyway... here's my thoughts.
The far left has RCA, SVIDEO, and Ethnernet. Maybe some way to output data over a network to RCA-based stereo systems, something like a PRISMIQ.
The middle device looks to be the same, except it has DV and optical in addition to RCA and SVIDEO. It could be another PRISMIQ-esque device, or it could also be something designed to go the other way too.
We can't see the back of the last unit, but I'm gonna guess it's something w/ wireless similar to the first two.
Re:Well... (Score:2, Informative)
All of the items could be off the shelf products, and that's what I'd guess they are, they look nothing like a product in development. Note the middle one with a barcode that looks like maybe a serial number and maybe a wi-f
Re:Well... (Score:2)
Re:Well... (Score:2)
All the devices run embedded Linux. My guess is they are enhancing these type products with either DRM, or more Tivo tracking magic. It's inevitable that there will be wireless DVD quali
Love a riddle. Here is a possible answer (Score:5, Informative)
Apple's Safari browser [apple.com] was one of the first to make use of the Rendezvous technology and, from what I gather, the most interesting thing it does is to enable local servers transparently (e.g. you can bookmark them, and you can make any computer around serve files). Open source browser Camino [mozilla.org] is also taking this route.
Tivo has expressed what Rendevous has to do with their plans:
This is just a collection of web-based info gotten through google. I may be seeing it all wrong, but the picture seems to make some sense to me. They are acquiring a company that brings something which Tivo intends to be a core offering of their system.
I agree (Score:2)
Having something like Rendezvous/Zeroconf working for Tivo is key to making it even simpler to intergrate a Tivo into a home network.
Simpler to use = deeper consumer penetration
I hated it better the first time (Score:2)
from the rather good itvt.com (on Tivo) (Score:5, Informative)
DVR vendor/service provider, TiVo, generated a fair amount of news at the recent Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas:
Some more stuff about strangeberry (Score:2, Informative)
Translation Dutch->English
Tivo buys Strangeberry
Extreme-techie Arthur van Hoff scores again after his stock-exchange launch of Marimba:
He and his four collegues sold their top secret start-up Strangeberry, housed in a small shop in Palo Alto to Tivo.
The transaction took place on the 12. of January
but TIVO only disclosed that yesterday.
Founded in April 2002, Strangeberry still was "pre-revenue", as companies who are still developping their technologi
Guys from early Sun's Java and Marimba (Score:2)
Anm
Re:Guys from early Sun's Java and Marimba (Score:2)
I think it's a video on demand system ... (Score:2, Interesting)
Bigger picture (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Bigger picture (Score:2)
Ooh! Ooh! I know! Pick me! (Score:2)
Or was that the LAST mysterious project?
Hardware (Score:2)
Paraphrasing from the Linksys site:
- 802.11g Wireless Access Point
- 4-port full-duplex 10/100 Switch
- Router
- DHCP Server
- SPI firewall
- VPN Support
The hardware is hackable (Score:2)
Look at what they are involved in... (Score:2, Informative)
Obviously this is going to allow for some level of interaction between your TiVo and equipment on your LAN, be it your router, your PC and/or your Mac. This could lead to an interface betweeen your TiVo and iTunes using Java [sourceforge.net]. Maybe it is about pulling down content over broadband to your TiVo, though DRM concerns immediately come to mind. Maybe it is both.
Only time will tell.
I found it! (Score:2)
Click Here [ebayimg.com]
I just read their comic. . . (Score:2)
The art's pretty good, too. Looks like classic Stan and Jack stuff.
The nature of the secret device will be revealed next iss.
-FL
I've been here before (Score:2)
Strangeberry (Score:2, Insightful)
Better picture of the Strangeberry devices (Score:2)
http://apollo.lunarpages.com/~fracke2/DCP_1976.JP
And with a little bit of URL tweaking, the better pic:
http://apollo.lunarpages.com/~fracke2/DCP_1975.JP
Re:Better picture of the Strangeberry devices (Score:3, Interesting)
Heh, it even says "SMC" on it.
I know why. (Score:2)
And their leader... (Score:2, Funny)
Use more honey! (Score:2)
Re:Dutch, you say? (Score:3, Insightful)
well... we do, how else do you expect us to invent something called 'strangeberry'
Re:How many ways can you spell "money pit"? (Score:2)
Re:fp (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Hate to say this (Score:2)
I bet with HDTV around the corner it will really suck the photons down the fiber.
When it comes to the last mile though, I don't think even wavelets are going to be able to help you out.
Re:Hate to say this (Score:2)
And this is different from digital cable/cable modems *how*? Or was that your joke?
Re:Yes, it is obvious (Score:2)