Skywalker Ranch Wines 319
Gates82 writes "The creative force of George Lucas is at it again. Producing his own wine. "I would love to see them plant another 5 to 10 acres. There must be spots on that ranch to make some really interesting wines."" Wonder if there's any spots on that ranch left that can make a good Star Wars movie?
Best and worst. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Best and worst. (Score:2, Funny)
First off, I think he got enough whine with Luke in A New Hope! <rimshot
Second, a Greg the Bunny quote:
"We used to make fun of words like Pinot, and Noir, and Festival." <rimshot
Re:Best and worst. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Best and worst. (Score:5, Funny)
Lucas' wine CG'd into Mos Eiesly for the DVD? (Score:3, Funny)
The real question is whether Lucas will CG his wine into the Mos Eiesly scene for the Star Wars DVD release...;)
Re:Lucas' wine CG'd into Mos Eiesly for the DVD? (Score:3, Funny)
Skywalker Ranch.. you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Re:Best and worst. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Best and worst. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Best and worst. (Score:5, Funny)
Taste pretty damn awful then... (Score:3, Insightful)
IIRC, the wines that taste at their best many years after bottling are mainly red wines made from Shiraz or Cabernet Sauvignon.
Re:Taste pretty damn awful then... (Score:5, Funny)
Nitpicker (Score:3, Informative)
Actually the correct translation of viandante is traveler.
Re:Nitpicker (Score:3, Insightful)
At any rate, Sky Traveller is probably what he was trying to conjure up when he named his characters "Skywalker." Luke doesn't walk the stars, that would be stupid. He travels them. Lucas only said "walker" because Skywalker sounds like a real last name in English, whereas Sky
Re:Nitpicker (Score:3, Informative)
presidente = president
Del Cielo = of the sky
Viandante, dunno really, I thought dante by itself was giving.
Anyway your translation is very very off.
Got the idea from Coppola I bet. (Score:3, Interesting)
Pretty good stuff.
Give in to the dark side... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Give in to the dark side... (Score:3, Informative)
In this event, best keep it in a dark, cool basement. Not on the bookself in your room, near your computer, unless you're into explosive interior decorating and the stink of vine vinegar.
Re:Give in to the dark side... (Score:5, Funny)
Anyone who is a Star Wars wine collector already lives in his parent's dark basement. It won't be a problem...
yeah... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:yeah... (Score:5, Funny)
Jabba the Hutt will be digitally added to the label of the bottles too.
Re:yeah... (Score:2)
And crushing the grapes.
Re:yeah... (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah, it's 100% CG.. if CG means "Concentrated Grapes".
Re:yeah... (Score:3, Informative)
Skywalker Ranch is in Marin here by San Francisco, I think we can expect his wines to have at least 90% California Grapes.
I assume that's what you meant
SPACEBALLS: THE CHARDONNAY! (Score:5, Funny)
Lucas: We couldn't get Star Wars movies right, we cost Hasbro hundreds of millions of dollars in Episode I-II toys, we made the 2003 Coaster of the Year "Worst MMORPG Evah" award! Ruining things is too easy. We need a challenge. What haven't we ruined yet? What would be almost impossible to fuck up? Oh yeah! Booze!
Re:SPACEBALLS: THE CHARDONNAY! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:SPACEBALLS: THE CHARDONNAY! (Score:5, Funny)
advertisement budget (Score:5, Informative)
The TV ad ... (Score:5, Funny)
Clerk: These are not the wines you're looking for.
Man: These are not the wines I'm looking for?
Clerk: (offering Lucas Wine bottle) This is a much better purchase.
Man: This is a much better purchase!
Clerk: Move along.
I can see the french cringing... (Score:2, Funny)
Cynicism :-) (Score:5, Informative)
Oh, the cynicism.
Seriously though, growing wines in west Marin leaves me wondering about the quality of these wines (particularly a Chardonnay), but Coppola has produced some rather tasty wines including a scrumptious Merlots and a Claret or two, so I am inclined to believe there may be something of note.
Re:Cynicism :-) (Score:2, Funny)
Yup, your a yup from SF...
Re:Cynicism :-) (Score:2)
Nope. A former punk rocker from Texas is closer to the mark.
Re:Cynicism :-) (Score:2)
On the other hand I never bought the whole "terroir" thing. With the recent advances in wine making (and even some old fashioned blending) it is possible to get good wines even without the best soil or climate.
Re:Cynicism :-) (Score:4, Informative)
The classic example of this is the blended wines from Jadot in France. They have blended some exquisite wines that are quite reasonable in price.
Re:Cynicism :-) (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, but the Niebaum-Coppola wines are grown on the Rutherford Bench, which is generally considered the finest grape growing area of the Napa Valley. Fine wines have been cultivated there for over 100 years. He also has some very serious winemakers working for him.
West Marin though, as you note, hasn't exactly got an illustrious history of viticulture. That said you can grow some great wines in some unlikely spots in California, thanks to the excellent climate. One of my favorite wineries is Ridge [ridgewine.com] whose main vineyards are on the ridge overlooking Silicon Valley.
W Marin is great chardonnay country (Score:2, Interesting)
What prevents more wine growing in W Marin is that land is even more ridiculously expensive there than in Napa - it's really fairly well within the Bay Area suburban fringe. Most think of Marin as rural but is it really suburbs all the way to the coast. (Mari
Now (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Now (Score:3, Funny)
Kool Aid?
Hey, you're late. (Score:5, Funny)
Sincerely,
Seth Finklestein
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Yet another dig at Star Wars (Score:2, Interesting)
This would have been news if Lucas was doing a few hundred acres and bottling himself, Jar Jar Brut, Tattoine Port, Darth Zinfandel or something connected to the films, but as it is it's no more relevant than to American Graffitti or THX-1128
Re:Yet another dig at Star Wars (Score:5, Funny)
Star Wars beer (Score:5, Funny)
Star Wars Wine (Score:5, Funny)
A bit catty today? (Score:5, Informative)
Meee-ow!
By the way, I didn't think the ranch made the movies. That comment is stranger the more I think about it.
steveha
Re:A bit catty today? (Score:2)
Probably not. I think that comment was a gratuitous bash (the news is about wines, not about movies), but I think it's clear that the poster wanted to make a joke.
I was going for "funny" moderation, not "insightful", actually.
P.S. Like you, I wish that the original, unmodified movies were available on DVD. Just wait; someday they will release a new mega-deluxe box set with the new versions, the original versions, three making-of disks, and a mynock in a pear t
Just one bottle (Score:5, Insightful)
What are the margins on wine these days?
Re:Just one bottle (Score:2)
Why?
Re:Just one bottle (Score:3, Insightful)
Seriously, it's alcohol, it's a bottle, and it says Star Wars. People look to buy collectables they can relate to.
Celebrity Wines (Score:5, Informative)
I worry about celebrities making wine. Often, the wine's price gets a bump just for the name recognition factor, regardless of how good it is. This is the deal with Coppola's wines--they're just ok wines for better-than-ok prices.
Celebrity winemakers overally have little impact on serious wine drinkers. Obviously, though, Coppola proved there's a market segment that will spend money for a name on the bottle.
I would like to point out a brand new up-and-comer, non-celebrity wine--Sawkar Family Vineyards. They make a delicious Syrah that's probably in the upper scale of what most people want to pay for a bottle, but it's one of those that's actually worth it.
sev
Re:Celebrity Wines (Score:2)
You've never seen an Eddie Bauer Land Rover have ya? There's sooo many things wrong with that concept its not funny :)
Re:Celebrity Wines (Score:5, Funny)
You worry about it? Really? Gave yourself away as a wine snob. :)
I despise just about ALL overpriced celebrity branded crap, except Paul Newman's Newman's Own, because he gives most of the money to charity, instead of hoarding more blingbling. (And I just gave myself away as an "Anti-consumerist Playah Hater")
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Re:Celebrity Wines (Score:3, Interesting)
Yeah, that's what I thought too until I actually tried one of Coppola's wines..
That sounds flamish, but it's really true. I've got a couple of bottles at home in my basement. They can also be reliably found at Trader Joe's (aka "Home of the Two-Buck Chuck") for a very good price. I don't think Coppola's price-point is out of line for the quality.
Re:Celebrity Wines (Score:3, Funny)
Tim
Resemblance (Score:2)
With apologies to Harrison Ford... (Score:2, Funny)
My Guarantee (Score:5, Funny)
Forget wine (Score:5, Funny)
Well Now! (Score:2, Funny)
That's my kind of wine!
Part missing (Score:5, Funny)
What the article doesn't tell is that every buyer of Lucas' wines is required to provide his name and address. That way George Lucas can visit you periodically to mess with the wine to make it taste the way he intended at the time, but was not able to by lack of proper technology.
The vinitage stuff... (Score:5, Funny)
But I was going to the Tashi Station to pick up some power converters...
It's not impossible. I used to bullseye womprats in my T-16 back home; they're not much bigger than two meters.
No... that's not true... that's impossible!
D'oh! Zymurgy... my bad.
I live in Marin (where Skywalker is located) (Score:5, Funny)
I guess when old white directors [imdb.com] run out of good ideas they move up here and start a vineyard.
Obi-Wine Kenobi (Score:2, Funny)
Maybe he needs some advice (Score:2)
Is his wine like the last few movies? (Score:5, Funny)
What other celbrity products can they come up with next? Harrison Ford brand bull-whips? Tony Soprano automatic pistols? Michael Jackson -- never mind.
he's been online (Score:2)
Obviously, GL has been crafting to build up his Chef skills! [allakhazam.com]
Skywalker Ranch wine and food (Score:5, Informative)
One amusing thing I was told by the Lucas PR girlbot was that grape-picking was an annual event for the employees. From the way she phrased it, it sounded compulsory!
(Oh, and should you ever be lucky enough to have lunch there, go for the steak. It's delicious. No wonder Lucas has got so fat!)
Another One-Liner List: (Score:5, Funny)
2) Fear leads to drinking, drinking leads to courage, courage leads to rejection...rejection leads to suffering.
3)
4) Skywalker Ranch Wines -- Wet Your Whistle With Moonshine from Uncle Owen's Moisture Farm.
5) Bacta The Future! Hell, might as well ruin another trilogy.
TK-421, why aren't you at your post? (Score:2)
TK-421, why aren't you at your post?
I bet he's drunk on Skywalker Ranch Riesling again!
YOU REBEL SCUM!!!
Special Edition Vintage (Score:2, Funny)
Oh, and you'll be forced to buy a bottle of 2008, 2007 and 2006 grape juice vintages just to get your hands on the 2003-2005 vintages *
* which will also be grape juice (perhaps with luck they'll *turn* into wine but don't bet on it)
Wine takes time (Score:4, Informative)
Cash Grab (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Cash Grab (Score:4, Funny)
"crushed them between her supple breasts" for the Riserva label...
George Lucas (Score:2)
Oh.... Wine... not WINE. (Score:5, Funny)
The it hit me - wine, not WINE. Yup, I am a dork
Another Lucas Whine... (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=17037 [aintitcool.com]
Basically the script is done and Spielberg is ready, but Lucas wants to dip his hand in the script and mess around. Just like the Special Editions, can't leave anything alone, always gotte keep tinkering with it...
Having been there... (Score:3, Informative)
This photo [lucasfilm.com] shows "Lake Ewok" and to the right of it the Technical Building (where Skywalker Sound [skywalkersound.com] is). Between the two and down a little is where most of the vines are, and to the right of the tech building there are vines as well. It's an old picture so these changes aren't reflected in it.
And no, we didn't sneak in. In fact I don't think it's possible to sneak in. Anyways, I was there to visit family; doing the sound for a movie at SS.
The Names of the Wines here (Score:5, Funny)
Chewbaca Sauvignon
CharddoR2D2
Darth Shiraz
Boba Zinfandel
Jar Jar Blanc De Blanc
and their motto...
I will drink no wine until the force is with me
Here's where I get flamed to hell and back. (Score:3, Informative)
But the main thing in their favour is that, apparently unlike almost everywhere else, the French haven't forgotten how to make subtle wines.
[0] No, I don't mean "EastEnders" in Calais. That barely counts as France
[1] Damn. Why has my keyboard stopped producing euro signs...
Enough already (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm sure this will be misinterpreted as flamebait, but so be it. I'm so fucking fed up with this snotty attitude.
If you don't like the fucking films don't post about them! Pretend they don't exist or something. Nobody is forcing you to go see them. Nobody is forcing you to acknowledge their existence. What is with this incessant need for certain so-called fans to use every opportunity to whine and bitch about films that are primarily intended as fun and eye-candy, not high art. Fercrissake, get your life in order and maybe this might not seem like such an issue. Whether you accept it or not, Ep. 1 & 2 were every bit as good as 4, 5 & 6. We just don't have the gloss of nostalgia to help us ignore the warts of the latter.
Either leave the films alone to those of us who can get over that and enjoy them for what they are or just shut up about it. "WAAAHHH... I don't like these films so I have to chuck out a load of horseshit whining every time someone mentions it." Christ! Message received, okay? Move on.
Re:So... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:So... (Score:4, Funny)
He was hired to play Mannequin Skywalker...
Re:Now we know (Score:4, Funny)
Re:long time ago and far far away (Score:2, Funny)
Uh, he's growing grapes, not weed.
Re:GL Wine (Score:5, Funny)
Re:GL Wine (Score:3, Informative)
Sounds like you are describing the last couple of years of Bordeaux... I think a 2000 Pomerol would fit your requirements quite nicely.
Re:GL Wine (Score:3, Interesting)
Overall, Bordeaux 2000 will probably be better only because the breadth of wines that will be very good (a rising tide lifts all boats). I haven't had a chance to try many of them, but what I've tasted has been very good. Of course, many consider wine drinkers to be pretentious in their use of language and
Re:$30 (Score:5, Informative)
I have no idea if Coppola invites visitors or has a tasting room.
Don't expect Lucas to welcome you onto his ranch.
Re:$30 (Score:3, Informative)
Agreed in general though even the Napa has some quieter, smaller wineries that are worth visiting. There are several hundred wineries in the Napa and they vary tremendously.
Sonoma has great wines and is fairly quiet, off the beaten path. One of my favorites is Rochioli, close to Hop Kiln, which is also good. Suggest taking along some food, ge
Re:$30 (Score:4, Informative)
Sonoma has lots of excellent wines, the tastings are half the price and it is far more pretty, IMO. Hit Ferrari Carrano (sp?), Mondavi, Rodney Strong (one of my faves, you can often taste 3-4 price points of the same family of grape for about 5 bucks, for those who want more, try Gary Farrell and get their tour (res req'd), or go to the Alexander valley (Hanna is very good, free tasting). Glacier Peak is good, as well.
We call the windy road (can't remember the name) that ends up hitting lake sonoma the tipsy highway
-Sean
Re:$30 (Score:2)
Re:Meanwhile up the road (Score:2)
Off topic - but how does one become an adult drinker? I've never been able to aquire a taste for wine except those sweet white wines. How does one go about and aquire a taste for it without going to tasting parties? Does anyone know of any online literature or such that can walk me through the vineyard underworld? Wine has always been a tricky beast for me to get a hold of. I love me Guinnnes, tho.
Don't start with wine (Score:5, Informative)
By drinking scotch you will gain a taste for the various flavors in the drink. Tastes like 'peaty', 'earthy', and 'oaky' are common descriptions of the flavors of whiskey. To enjoy it, you don't toss back shot after shot, rather you would sip and let the flavors spread on your palate. Though quite offensive at first, whiskey becomes delightful once you have developed a sense of what it is that you are tasting.
You can use the same slow tasting technique with wine. It's much less harsh than whiskey and it has many more flavors. The process of learning to enjoy whiskey will help immensely in your appreciation of wine.
It will at least help wean you off of White Zin, if nothing else.
Re:Don't start with wine (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Meanwhile up the road (Score:3, Insightful)
FWIW, you don't need to acquire a taste for wine. The rewards are not commensurate with the effort required. If you like a certain type of alcoholic beverage, drink it and enjoy. Experiment and try new things, but why bother trying to develop a taste for something? It takes a lot of effort to develop a taste for wine, and the only result is t
Re:Meanwhile up the road (Score:3, Funny)
Re:So who should direct the 3rd trilogy? (Score:2)
Re:So who should direct the 3rd trilogy? (Score:2)
Though a woody allen star wars (as a study of a young emporer, perhaps) could be amusing...
Terry Gilliam would be outstanding; peter jackson obvious.
Y'all can snipe at Tarantino, but I'm not seeing productive critisism here (Luc Besson? Transporter? Wasabi? Thanks, no - now Truffaut? Sure. But he's dead. Dead directors are banned from this thread).
Re:So who should direct the 3rd trilogy? (Score:2)
Tarantino would make a pile of shit that nobody would watch. Tarantino is the most overrated, overhyped director of our time. He's a one trick pony who's time was already past when he did Pulp Fiction. Sure, he's cutting edge for the unwashed masses that think that "Titanic" and "Gladiator" were great movies, but for those of us who know movies, he's a film school hack.
Leave directing to real directors... like Luc Bresson.
Re:So who should direct the 3rd trilogy? (Score:2)
Indeed. Kill Bill Vol. 1 was some of the worst shit I've ever seen on a movie screen. It seemed like only the kids thought it was a good movie (and I'm 23 years old).
Re:Should I have the Dark side wine with my fish? (Score:2, Funny)