Visualizing Stories On Current Events With Newsmap 114
hrbrmstr writes "Marcos Weskamp and Dan Albritton have created Newsmap, an extremely cool way of visualizing news stories. The site takes the aggregated content from Google News (globally) and maps it out into a visual space. That way, you get an immediate feel for news patterns (what the media in any particular region is gravitating to) - there's quite a bit of potential here."
OK so this year theme is.... (Score:1, Funny)
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Pretty cool (Score:5, Insightful)
That makes me start to wonder... Maybe the best way to get a job with a company you like is to write some slick code that helps to benefit the company. Once the company finds out about your project, they might decide to hire you. It's kinda of like writting a customized resume for a particluar company.
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Re:Pretty cool (Score:1)
Now if it would only render in FireFox I'd use it.
Opening IE to check the news is like looking at the festering wound on your wrist to check the time....
Re:Pretty cool (Score:2)
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It's obvious that this guy has some programming ntalent. I wonder if Google will chase him down and we'll see this at labs.google.com soon?
If they did track him down, I'm guessing it would be for his bright ideas as opposed to programming talent - lots of people can program, but fewer can come up with excellent ideas like this.
Re:Pretty cool (Score:2)
Google didn't seem to like it very much.
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Besides, I was mistaken about the real nature of this "project". Before I was able to reach the site, I thought it was very interesting. Now that I've seen the pictures, it's a waste of time.
Re:Pretty cool (Score:1)
I'm not calling you a liar. I'm just saying that I, for one, would be very interested in seeing this other project you talk about.
Re:Pretty cool (Score:2)
Basically, hooking up a location to arbitrary text. It's complicated as heck and never 100% accurate. But cool.
The flaw in the design is the reliance on English, which is really tough to handle because there are just too many damn words...
Re:Pretty cool (Score:1)
Bigger text for more popular stories? Ooohhh ahhh....
Re:Pretty cool (Score:1)
They might also decide to sue you.
so? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:so? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:so? (Score:5, Insightful)
1001 news sources have the same stories, yes. The vast majority have the placment and hence importance of those stories decided by editors who, because they're human, have biases and agendas. Google News (and some others) places the stories based on algorithmic results and hence only shows the "group bias" of the world's media. This is just an easy way to visualise that, allowing single-click filtering on various fields and the ability to see many more stories per page and pick out the "important" ones.
Yes, nothing terribly mindblowing (and I've seen a file display recently with a very similar layout, showing files as blocks with proportionate sizes and colours based on last access) but it's still neat, and did help me spot some interesting stories that I'd missed on my regular news sites.
algorithmic results (Score:1)
Of course I don't think the fact that it's done with algorithm's eliminates bias. Somebody has decided to use algorithm_1 overr algorithm_2, which is the programmer's bias. It's objective, I'll give you that, since it is quantified and repeatable. But it's still bias.
~b
Re:algorithmic results (Score:1)
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Except that... (Score:2)
Although, having seen domestic US TV in the States - I'm not surprised. Switch the 5 mins of local news we get here in Ireland/UK with 5 mins international 'roundup' and you wouldn't be far off!!!
More comparisons (Score:3, Interesting)
The German Google news has a whopping huge ratio of entertainment to news!
However, India and Australia are WAY low on National news! (Even the UK despite the highest proportion of international news has more national news)
That's all folks, I'm sick of waiting 5 hours for each page to load up (even if it is subst minutes hours)...
Re:so? (Score:2)
I agree.
This infact is a kitsch smorgasbord of information that's quite off-putting.
I ask to be saved from the hordes of designers who monger (only) variable text sizes as epitomes of visualization. Visualization, by it's very nature, is defined [reference.com] as the process of formation of a mental image. It's what's inherent to photographs and pictures amongst other entities. Surely not much of a (memorable) image being formed here.
Personally, I much rather prefer the more subtle, appropriate and to the point l
Google Cache to the Rescue! (Score:4, Informative)
Hold the front page! (Score:4, Funny)
Stop Press!
Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:5, Insightful)
Of course such a system would require a bunch of gotchas to be taken care of... no one wants "ls" deleted just because a user didn't use it for a month :) Maybe only largish applications are affected by such an algorithm? Maybe the distribution marks certain directories as do-not-touch items, and the rest are affected? Maybe only user-installed apps are affected?
Thoughts?
-naeem
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Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe your idea would be useful to me if I could rewind somehow and take a look at what my desktop looked like an a certain date in the past, showing all the files and stuff I was using most round that time.
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm bad at filing stuff in any sort of systematic
Me, too.
I've tried to clean up my top level home directory so that there's only a screenfull of concise subdirectories listed, then everything goes into those.
Problem is, some of those subdirectories become chock full at the next level. I have a directory called "tmp/src" that includes about every imagined release of some interesting application tarball ever made.
Then, documents can hide way down in some particular project directory.
Instead of a static view of my files and work, I'd like VFolders that could be generated a lot like Google Searches, including criterion such as file type, time last accessed, keywords in the document.
I remember reading once of some crazy guy that used CVS for his home directory, but I think CVS is too clunky. But he had gem of an idea: time travel - "I want to see my desktop from 8 months ago".
And, yes, while a graphical tree is really nice, I'd like to be able to navigate through any tree using pure text-based tools, terminals if I desired.
Maybe then I could make my own "/usr/bin" sane instead of what my sysadmin thinks is a good idea.
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:5, Informative)
Windows: "Start | Setttings | Taskbar and start menu" has a checkbox (different locations I think for 2000 and XP/2003) to disable personalized menus. If you use XP's Luna theme (why?), the "All Programs" flyout is un-personalized.
Office (2000, XP, 2003): right click on the main toolbar, Customize, Options tab, uncheck "Menus show most recently used commands first".
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:2, Interesting)
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Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:1)
KDE's filemanager has an optional mode to view like that (the FSPartView plugin). But it isn't shiny, so it's not useful. The standalone KDirStat [sourceforge.net] is better.
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:1)
Neat idea, there's a small problem. I keep a lot of stuff sitting around for archival purposes, and I'm sure others do as well. I hardly ever access any of them (files or programs), so under your system they'd eve
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:4, Funny)
I -HATE- that auto-rearrange stuff.
My user manuals now read:
- Click the startbutton.
- Find wherever Windows XP has put you foo-app today.
- Select that.
"/Dread"
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:4, Interesting)
Newsmap is based on Treemaps, which is both a conceptual GUI idiom as well as a commercial product [umd.edu]. This is the work that Ben Schneiderman is most well-known for, and he's been working on different forms of interactive information visualization for decades.
The parent was asking about projects like KDE and Gnome picking up cool concepts like this. The HCI world is full of 'hey neat' ideas that on the surface really seem like they should be brought into the fold, but aren't for a variety of reasons. One company in particular that I worked for (and won't name) has a really cool project that I feel could become a standard UI idiom like radio buttons and scrollpanes, but the product is doomed to failure because the company is horribly mismanaged and (having been the sole coder--as an intern, even) I also know the code to be completely inflexibly designed. Furthermore, they want to make all sorts of money on the thing, which means they're charging customers an arm and a leg to use it.
The Linux desktop environment projects have issues equally as inibitive as the one described above, but rather than being financially oriented, their problems are more about ego and (with the exception of some of the KDE guys) a complete misunderstanding of what HCI is all about. I really wish KDE/Gnome would use these experimental UI metaphors, but alas, I think their structures prohibit this sort of thing.
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:2)
I can't help but wonder if this is the case with the decision to make the scrollbar thumb change size in proportion to the number/size of the content in a window or list. Maybe on its surface it might have appeared to be an inter
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:2)
In response to you, I think specific widget behavior changes should only go into widespread use if they have been scientifically tested (usability testing). Of course, the itch to change it has to originate from somewhere, and in the case of open source software that source is almost always some hacker. So in this case, somebody thought t
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:2)
I understand this completely. In the past I have made that mistake myself, implementing something because either I thought it would be "neat", or because I mistunderstood how a particular function would be applied. I am wiser now. I know that it is not I who should be directing the end user, but they who should be di
Re:Maybe GUIs could learn from this (Score:2)
I don't think so. And I don't understand what is so cool about the newsmap. May be I am missing some important Flash functionality, but to me that looks just like a bunch of stupid rectangles with smallish newslines. In its current state it is no better than opening bbcnews.com or something like that. I mean, waiting ages for the Flash to load only to find out that some news are considered important and others are compressed so much as to make t
To Save You Some Time... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:To Save You Some Time... (Score:1)
Re:To Save You Some Time... (Score:5, Funny)
The last time I believed anyone on slashdot I ended up with goatse all over my monitor.
It works! (Score:5, Funny)
I clicked on the link and Mozilla popped a window saying "The document contains no data" : this indeed matches exactly what I've been seeing in the TV news for years.
Well done!
Re:It works! (Score:2)
Wow... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Wow... (Score:1)
http://www.google.it/search?q=cache:83f
Kinda Neat. (Score:5, Insightful)
The only problem I really have with this type of technology is that it makes a less popular story so small that you can't read it. It also may make some people think that a less popular story is not as important as a more popular one, which is not always the case. I often find the popular news stories to be things that people can easily take a stance on without reading the details. And the less popular ones you need to read the details to get.
I feel mapping like this could cause important information to be put away in a way that cannot be found.
What's the problem? (Score:1)
I agree with you that sometimes it's difficult to find smaller, less popular stories. However, I don't think that was the goal of this project. It was designed to see quickly and visually trends in the news; what the media is focusing their attention on.
The value in this kind of tool isn't in the individual stories it shows. The value is being able to quickly see what occupying our society's mindshare. It gives a glimse as to what the media finds worth writing (and reading) about.
Just my $0.02
It'll take some getting used to... (Score:3, Insightful)
Maybe it needs a time factor ? (Score:5, Interesting)
The very small items could however be interesting too:
Take for example a small accident that gets catched on by more and more news companies as time goes on, simply because it is found out that an important person was involved.
Thus, 'small' news items that have a 'high rate of increase' across various sites should be voted more important than static ones.
For simplicity sake, perhaps this could be done visually (simply animate the news from a certain point in time forward to the now, and you see developments more clearly).
This thing is certainly an eye-opener however, applauds to the designer.
Old news (Score:1, Interesting)
Screenshot (Score:2, Informative)
Cool, but why flash? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Cool, but why flash? (Score:3, Insightful)
But maybe Flash is just what he knows best, and other versions could follow if it becomes more popular. Can't please everybody with your proof of concept work.
Vertical text (Score:1)
Re:Cool, but why flash? (Score:2)
Granted, considering what that screenshot someone posted looked like, it may be next to impossible to accomplish that in tables and make it work right. But I would have given it a shot.
cool. good. innovative. (Score:3, Funny)
assuming it's not a hoax, it'll be on my bookmarks bar at the top of the news list.
Slashdot map: (Score:5, Funny)
<--- You are here.
The latest news article is over here --->
CmdrTaco is not here --->
<--- ... but here.
Also, articles in sector 24-D are down for maintenance and the MPF ( Moderator Patrol Force ) has had som skirmishes with GNAA trolls in sectors 12-C, 13-C, 13-D, 13-E and 14-D. Beware of crossfire and goatses.
Heatmaps in the trading space (Score:5, Interesting)
Another area that could benefit from it is Google Zeitgeist [google.com]
Re:Heatmaps in the trading space (Score:3, Interesting)
I think the exciting thing here is the excellent (not just neat, but surprisingly useful/usable) implementation of a treemap [umd.edu] pulling from publicly available data.
Also, while treemaps aren't new (see Smart Money's Market Map [smartmoney.com], MSR Netscan [microsoft.com]), they are qualitatively different visualizations than the heatmaps you mention.
(Also, the Flash loads much more transparently and the overall design is much slicker and well designed than most of the Java versions out there)
news on a map (Score:1, Redundant)
Akin to Map of the Market (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Akin to Map of the Market (Score:2)
Cool! (Score:2, Funny)
Usenet map (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.cs.umd.edu/hcil/treemap-history/all1
show a 'treemap' of usenet. it's kind of inevitable that 'sex' and 'erotica' should be so large
Amazing! Look: (Score:2)
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Great for media and cultural studies (Score:4, Interesting)
This is a great technology for those studying media and culture. It reminds me a bit of the HP technology that tracks the spread of stories on web logs. What would be interesting is a combination of the following:
WTF? (Score:2)
Ouch. (Score:2)
Not so new (Score:1, Interesting)
Oh heck, I can do that (Score:1)
it's a treemap (Score:1)
Font Size vs. Size of Story Block (Score:3, Interesting)
So, I think the programmer had a difficult design choice, but made the right decision. In order to use this effectively, I have to retrain my eye to judge importance according to the amount of real-estate being taken up, not by the size of the font.
map of the market (Score:1)
http://www.smartmoney.com/
tools->m
Re:Tried it on Fox (Score:2)
I clicked... (Score:2)
another thing I have to note is that when I selected another country, it took forever to load/change
Can't wait for pr0nmap (Score:3, Funny)
Another example (Score:1)
It's done on a world map interface. It's quiet today, but some days there are a lot of items on there.
--b
This is fairly unimpressive (Score:1)
Hivegroup's Honey Comb [hivegroup.com] relies on the treemap [umd.edu] technique from University of Maryland. This is far cooler idea than those lame heatmaps.
If you want a free try on your own data, you may also try my own version of the same stuff: ILOG Discovery [ilog.com].
Re:This is fairly unimpressive (Score:1)
An eye-catching slice-and-dice treemap (Score:1)
Weskamp and Albritton have done a nice job in making a slice-and-dice treemap truly lovely.
If you're interested in using a similar concept for managing corporate information, please check out our stuff [hivegroup.com].
Great idea, but how practical? (Score:1)
Zoloft? (Score:1)
I think there's a bug (Score:1)
I watched it for 5 minutes and nothing changed.
Other innovative visualizations (Score:1)