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Stargate Atlantis Tomorrow 422

BadDream writes "I read an old slashdot article about Stargate Atlantis comming this summer. Well its summer, and guess what starts this friday." You can also enter to win a walk-on role on SG1, but I call first dibs, no cuts.
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Stargate Atlantis Tomorrow

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  • hmph. (Score:3, Funny)

    by Mukaikubo ( 724906 ) <gtg430b.prism@gatech@edu> on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:42PM (#9709805) Journal
    The only good thing is that since Farscape's a miniseries now, it can't be pushed back an hour to make room for back to back episodes of Stargate every freaking week.

    Not that I'm bitter.
    • by Damek ( 515688 ) <adam&damek,org> on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:35PM (#9710380) Homepage
      I'd be bitter if my lovely Stargate were pushed back to make room for your Muppet show, so I understand.
      • by NanoGator ( 522640 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:56PM (#9710571) Homepage Journal
        "I'd be bitter if my lovely Stargate were pushed back to make room for your Muppet show, so I understand."

        I don't like Farscape, so I enjoy making fun of it to rile up the hardcore fans. Unfortunately, the common alternative is a dude with a bumpy head. So.. well shit, I wish my fav scifi shows had muppets for aliens, too.

    • Re:hmph. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by JaffaKREE ( 766802 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:42PM (#9710450)
      Farscape had a loyal following.

      Stargate has a huge, insanely loyal following. It deserves it. I didn't discover SG1 until sometime in season 5. Once I got the dvds, I could not stop watching them. SG does such an incredible job of building upon previous storylines, it's like one continuous movie. Some of the episodes, like 'Window of Opportunity' (The time ripple), 'Upgrades' (The super-arm bands), 'Jolinar's memories'/'The Devil you know' (Sokar) are so damn good, and really funny.

      In an interview with the writers on the Stargate documentary (the one they aired before season 7 premiered), one of the writers said something to the effect of "Stargate is actually a comedy, we've just managed to keep it a secret for 7 years". It really is funnier than any given sitcom. Whether that reflects greatly on the SG1 staff or just makes the recycled sitcom writers look even worse is up to you.
      • Re:hmph. (Score:5, Funny)

        by daoine ( 123140 ) * <moruadh1013&yahoo,com> on Thursday July 15, 2004 @03:06PM (#9710680)
        Some of the episodes, like 'Window of Opportunity' (The time ripple), 'Upgrades' (The super-arm bands), 'Jolinar's memories'/'The Devil you know' (Sokar) are so damn good, and really funny.

        Indeed. [/Teal'C]

      • Re:hmph. (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Mukaikubo ( 724906 )
        Bigger? Without dispute. More loyal? No objective way to tell unless some mental-defective suits try to cancel *your* show. Then we'd be able to compare fanbase loyalties with some kind of accuracy.
      • Re:hmph. (Score:3, Insightful)

        by JWSmythe ( 446288 )
        Get a TiVo. :) I had mine recording Stargate from three different stations (two local, and the SciFi channel). I've seen every episode at least once now. I actually told it to stop recording until this new season started, it was really boring watching the first two seconds, saying "seen it", and deleting it.

        I guess that's a good and bad point of TiVo, especially with DirecTV. You can't miss a show, because it'll always record it. I already have it set to keep the Atlantis shows. I won't be rushi
  • by Cat_Byte ( 621676 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:43PM (#9709813) Journal
    Oh man that commercial for winning the chance where that guy walked up to audition then ran for the stargate & was tackled by security had me rolling. He stole my idea!
    • I've been trying for 3 freaking days to enter for a chance to be on the episode,but everytime I try to "click here to register now," it says that "This service is temporarily unavailable while we upgrade to serve you better." 3 days is NOT temporary. And now it's been Slashdotted?!?!? Thanks a lot :|
    • by RobertB-DC ( 622190 ) * on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:50PM (#9709916) Homepage Journal
      Oh man that commercial for winning the chance where that guy walked up to audition then ran for the stargate & was tackled by security had me rolling. He stole my idea!

      It had me thinking of an Ask Slashdot question: what would you do if you won the Stargate walk-on drawing? Obviously, they're not giving some random fanboy/girl off the street a talking part, but is there something you could do to make the director's job easier? Keep your mouth shut, or be knowledgable about the show and its premise? Walk on, walk off, say goodbye... or be noticable in the scene? What could a fan of the show, given the opportunity to be ON the show, do to make the show better?

      • They'd probably judge it by how good you were. I kinda feel sorry for them. They'll get some 300 pound completely geek freak that wouldn't even fit into a SGC uniform, that they couldn't even have as an SGC soldier extra.

        If they were *LUCKY*, they'd get someone with at least a little acting experience and ability, but I kinda doubt it.

        I'd love to get the walk-in part just for the sake of meeting the folks, and walking around the sets for a few minutes. If they'd let me talk, all the better. A
      • what would you do if you won the Stargate walk-on drawing? Obviously, they're not giving some random fanboy/girl off the street a talking part

        Yes, they are. All the filler people just standing/walking around in the background cost too much if they're all 'real' actors who have to get paid union scale. Extras are just people off the streets who have spare time, from the acting equivalent of temp worker agencies, contest winners, non-actor friends of the regular actors, etc, etc..

        but is there somethi
        • by phek ( 791955 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:41PM (#9710438)
          Extra's arent just people off the street (even the ones who just walk accross the screen 100 feet in the background). They're all a bunch of aspiring actors and most of them are totally nuts. Non-union extras get payed $10/hr usually for 10 - 14 hour days, plus the benifit of some really good food. Like I was saying, it's mostly a bunch of crazy people who come from other states wanting to be famous. Well its those kind of people and ex-cons who can't get a regular job. To be an extra you need to sign up with a casting agency which usually costs about $20, central casting being the largest agency. Then once signed up you call their automated line which has a bunch of casting director's giving a description of the type of extra's they're looking for for tommorows shoot.
        • what would you do if you won the Stargate walk-on drawing? Obviously, they're not giving some random fanboy/girl off the street a talking part

          Yes, they are. All the filler people just standing/walking around in the background cost too much if they're all 'real' actors who have to get paid union scale. Extras are just people off the streets who have spare time, from the acting equivalent of temp worker agencies, contest winners, non-actor friends of the regular actors, etc, etc..


          Actualyl most extras do
    • I'm not sure if the commercial is more funny or the moderator that did this....rofl.
      70% Funny
      30% Insightful

  • by SeanTobin ( 138474 ) * <byrdhuntr@hot[ ]l.com ['mai' in gap]> on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:43PM (#9709816)
    There are a few rules when it comes to the Stargate. I thought everyone understood them; however it appears that not everyone got the memo. So, please follow this simple list of things not to do with the Stargate:
    • Do not attempt to travel through the path of a solar flare.
    • Error messages are there for a reason. Do not override them.
    • Do not hit golf balls through the Stargate.
    • Do not contact the Guinness book of world records about your 45-lightyear drive afterwards.
    • Do not place stuffed aliens on the MALP.
    • Do not invite the goa'uld over for 'tea.'
    • Do not place a fifth finger slot in the handprint scanner.
    • Even if you are the last person through, do not spit while in the wormhole.
    • Absolutely under no circumstances should you ever slashdot the Stargate.
    • by MoxCamel ( 20484 ) * on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:48PM (#9709884)
      ...do not taunt happy stargate.
    • by scharkalvin ( 72228 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:49PM (#9709899) Homepage
      OH and STAND BACK from the 'gate when the
      wormhole opens!
    • Re:Stargate rules (Score:5, Interesting)

      by ePhil_One ( 634771 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:59PM (#9710021) Journal

      Do not hit golf balls through the Stargate.

      Ah, one of my favorite episodes ever. I'm a little disappointed that they never used Jack O'Neill's and Teal'c knowledge of the ancient language again. They reached the point that they knew it better than Danny boy, after all, since they were effectively the ones who translated the inscriptions.

      I've been patiently waiting for Mr. Jackson to start struggling with a translation and Jack walk up and say "No, that's 'keep your arms and legs inside the tram car while gating'" then look over to Teal'c for his confirmation, where he'd get the little head nod and "indeed."

      But thats just me :^D

      • I don't think they *could* use their knowledge because it was lost. Once the time loop was stopped, it was as if it never happened.

        Mostly.... Don't you just love paradoxes?
        • Re:Stargate rules (Score:4, Insightful)

          by ePhil_One ( 634771 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:30PM (#9710328) Journal
          I don't think they *could* use their knowledge because it was lost. Once the time loop was stopped, it was as if it never happened.

          No, this very specifically is not what happened. The Tokra made a comment becoming concerned that they could not reach Earth, and were becoming concerned enough that they almost sent a ship to investigate. So Earth and everywhere else involved "snapped back" to the present. It was the download knowledge of the Ancients that was erased from Jack's brain; this was learned naturally.

          Mostly I just love how the series blindly ignores these paradoxes with a wave of the hand, and occasionally a wink. We got more entertaining things to do that come up with midiclorian theories. Stuff just is.

          • Re:Stargate rules (Score:3, Interesting)

            by Jerf ( 17166 )
            I'm going to go with crazyaxemaniac here; you can't learn a language just by doing one translation. Even the first time I saw it, I knew that when Jack corrects Daniel, he was just shortcircuiting to a decision Daniel eventually came too; odds are Jack heard it a couple of times before remembering.

            SG-1 does a pretty good job of this overall. It's not perfect (most recent pet peeve: A planet rich in neutronium... yeah, sure!), but only a masochist still expects perfection from a TV series. It does as well a
            • Re:Stargate rules (Score:3, Informative)

              by ePhil_One ( 634771 )
              (If you think Star Trek is at all realistic, you don't know anything about science.)

              First, I don't think any Sci Fi show is realistic, that wasn't my point. A Sci-Fi show establishes its universe; Magic is real, communism works, Reagan caused the fall of the Soviet Union, whatever. Once it establishes this "reality", it should try to remain consistent with it. I don't care that Zat guns stun with one shot, kill with two, and make things disappear with three. Thems the rules, don't bore me with how Steinbe

              • Re:Stargate rules (Score:4, Informative)

                by JWSmythe ( 446288 ) <jwsmythe@@@jwsmythe...com> on Thursday July 15, 2004 @08:55PM (#9713145) Homepage Journal
                I just think it would be fun to include this ability in a show. The character Col. Jack O'Neill isn't dumb, quite the opposite. Given his background in special ops (I even choose to overlook the fact that the Air Force doesn't really have a Special Ops group like the SEALS), he likely already knows a few other languages. Teal'c definately knows at least two.


                Most officers aren't exactly stupid.. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe you must have a bachlors degree to get any sort of officer rank, no matter how talented you may be. Being dumb, and playing dumb are two different things. For example, walk into my office when I don't want to cooperate and ask me anything. I may have forgotten even my own name. Sometimes it's safer to be like that. Dumb people don't know anything and aren't worth bothering for information. Not so smart people get bothered all the time. Playing dumb has helped me out of plenty of situations. I don't know anything unless I want to.

                Ok, so O'Neill doesn't have a grasp of astrophysics, (or plays like he doesn't). No one's going to ask him to do anything like fix a DHD. But he is responsible for being a military leader, so he does that effectively. You've never seen him trying to figure out which end is the working end of a P90.

                The show would be pretty boring if every alien spoke a different language. Every conversation would be through Jackson, and that'd get old *REALLY* quick. Well, it would have been harder for that year that he was dead too.

      • Re:Stargate rules (Score:5, Insightful)

        by crazyaxemaniac ( 219708 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:24PM (#9710267)
        They didn't really know the ancient language. They just kept telling Daniel what he had figured out last time they went through the loop.
      • Re:Stargate rules (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Damek ( 515688 )
        They've probably forgotten much of it by now. I mean, they were just learning enough to tackle that specific problem, and assuming they're like me, they probably just don't have a head for languages. I did OK in French in high school, but if you don't practice it and keep it up, epsecially when it took great effort to do well in the first place, you quickly lose it.

        But just as I still recognize a little French here and there from time to time, I would expect them to say something once or twice, like reco
      • by AndroidCat ( 229562 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:51PM (#9710536) Homepage
        Golfballs? What happens if you take a whizz through the Stargate? "Watch me write my name on another planet!"

        "That would be bad", as Egon might say?

    • Forget the Goa'uld (Score:3, Informative)

      by T-Kir ( 597145 )

      Do not invite the goa'uld over for 'tea.'

      Once you see the Pilot, I think you'll find that you ought not to invite the Wraith over for tea either... these pics might show you:

      Eating time. [gateworld.net]

      After eating [gateworld.net] (or whatever has happened to the poor bloke).

    • by Eudial ( 590661 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @03:52PM (#9711128)
      Additional rules for tourists:

      • Do not feed or pet the Guo'uld and the Jaffa
      • Keep your arms and legs inside of the wormhole at all times
      • Do not eat icecream, hotdogs or other messy food while in the wormhole
      • In case of a fire, please remain calm and follow the emergency exit signs on the worm hole walls
      • Do not create a feedback loop in your naquadah reactor while in the facility
      • Do not stick pointy objects in the power outlets
      • Always exit the wormhole at the same planet as the rest of your tour group
      • The DHD is not a toy. Keep your kids away from it and do not spill icecream on it
  • SG-1 Continuity? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by angrist ( 787928 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:46PM (#9709859)
    I've never gotten into watching SG-1 (although it comes highly recomended) but have meant to.

    This looks like a great place to pick up the series, but i have to ask all you SG-1 fans... how friendly do you think Atlantis will be towards new viewers?

    First post? ::crosses fingers::
    • Re:SG-1 Continuity? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Vaevictis666 ( 680137 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:50PM (#9709921)
      Very friendly, actually.

      From what I know, during the premier they get off to Atlantis, and then goof up and get themselves stuck there - it's mostly autonomous from the original show. I do recommend you hunt down the Stargate Atlantis Lowdown on bittorrent or something (it aired last week) that should bring you up to speed on what's happening with the main Stargate storyline and universe. They're spending their time in another galaxy, no Gua'uld, new bad guys, new stuff going down. Should be fun :)

      One of the things the writers mention is that for it to work as simultaneous shows, the one thing they _don't_ want to be doing often is invite the crew from show B to save the guys on show A. Regardless which show is A and which is B.

      • Re:SG-1 Continuity? (Score:4, Interesting)

        by AKAImBatman ( 238306 ) <<moc.liamg> <ta> <namtabmiaka>> on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:57PM (#9709993) Homepage Journal
        From what I know, during the premier they get off to Atlantis, and then goof up and get themselves stuck there - it's mostly autonomous from the original show.

        I don't think that's right. I've seen previews where Doctor Weir is telling the troops that they're not sure if they can get back, but they're going to find new technologies to defend Earth. I think the idea is that SGC will occasionally open a wormhole and they'll exchange data via radio.

        • Well as seen in previous episodes of SG-1 it takes a lot more power to create a wormhole to another galaxy then they have readily available at the SGC. The one time they did it, and I feel like such a dork for knowing this, was in the episode "The Fifth Race" where O'Neill had the Ancient's Library uploaded into his mind. He created a device, that was subsequently destroyed upon use, that allowed the gate to dial up one of the Asgard worlds.

          So as they don't have the power readily available in the Pegasus

          • Re:SG-1 Continuity? (Score:3, Informative)

            by Binestar ( 28861 )
            He created a device, that was subsequently destroyed upon use, that allowed the gate to dial up one of the Asgard worlds.

            Wasn't destroyed, the SGC was just unable to ever getting it working again until later when they were contacted from another universe by Dr. Carter and one of the guys who was killed in the original episode.

            They brought it to the other universe and it was used to dial the Asgard to save the planet from Apophis.
      • by nes11 ( 767888 )
        "From what I know, during the premier they get off to Atlantis, and then goof up and get themselves stuck there"

        actually, the problem is that it takes so much energy to get them from earth to the new gate, that they have no idea whether the other gate will support it coming back the other way.
      • Re:SG-1 Continuity? (Score:2, Interesting)

        by kjh1 ( 65671 )
        It's too bad that they (the shows' producers/writers) have already stated that they don't want too much or any intermingling of plots and characters between shows. I usually find that really interesting. It makes it seem like the show is really part of a bigger picture. I think it's something audiences in general like as well. After all, it's done all the time.

        Someone else made the comment that you can figure out 90% of what's going on just by watching one show. I disagree. I got into SG-1 in about the 4t

      • Re:SG-1 Continuity? (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Wolfrider ( 856 ) <{moc.liamg} {ta} {nortuengnik}> on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:37PM (#9710402) Homepage Journal
        --Hmm, sounds a lot like ST:Voyager. I have mixed feelings about this...

        --To me, what makes SG1 work:
        Richard Anderson (O'Neill)
        Amanda Tapping (Samantha Carter)

        (To a lesser extent)

        The hot doctor - Teryl Rothery (Doc Frasier is now dead, unforch)
        Teal'c
        Dr. Daniel Jackson (Michael Shanks)
        General Hammond (Don S. Davis)

        --Without *any* of the "original crew" (Hey, how about bringing Kurt Russell or French Stewart into Atlantis?) signing on, it's a 50/50 chance the show will struggle. IIRC, they had to bring Michael Dorn (Worf) onto DS9 before the ratings started to climb back up.
    • Re:SG-1 Continuity? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by raygundan ( 16760 )
      I started watching the old episodes in order via Netflix after I gave in to the repeated recommendations my friends gave it.

      I must say that I MUCH prefer this method of watching/paying for TV. Screw commercials and schedules-- I want everything on my own terms, in high quality, from now on. Now if only they'd start doing releases on the same day as the show first runs or the movie opens, I'd be very happy.

      But I digress. Netflix, for $20/month, will get you through the first six seasons (they don't have
    • by bigbigbison ( 104532 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:02PM (#9710047) Homepage
      You could probably watch any single episode of SG-1 and figure out 90% of what is going on. There is continuity but it is more in terms of reoccuring characters where there are a few people who keep returning as guest stars, but the plots are definitly on the side of action so it is not generally that confusing. There is the ocasionally plot heavy show, but they generally do a "last time on Stargate" where they show you all the relevent storylines even if they build on things that happened several episodes ago.
    • Re:SG-1 Continuity? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by meta-monkey ( 321000 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:27PM (#9710293) Journal
      Eh. If I were you I'd either get the torrents for SG-1, or you can catch the re-runs on Sci-Fi. They have like a four hour marathon every Monday night. The show is pretty good...I'd say probably the best sci-fi on TV right now.

      I'm worried that I'm not going to like Atlantis, though. One of the things I liked about SG-1 was the characters seemed much more "real." Take a look at the Atlantis cast and they all look like Hollywood pretty boys (and girls). On SG-1, well, there's Richard Dean Anderson, who looks pretty much like a normal guy. His character jokes around too much for a Colonel in the Air Force (B. General, now, actually). Before they made him start working out and cut his hair, Michael Shanks did look like a befuddled scientist. Amanda Tapping is cute, but not exactly a starlet. Chris Judge looks big and mean, and has a misshapen head (Don't tell him I said that!). The dude who plays General Hammond is probably one of the best charicatures of career military on TV.

      Now flash foward to Atlantis. The leader is a slender civilian woman with high cheekbones. The military commander has spiked hair, and looks like he's just about old enough to have finished basic. Then there's the Atlantean chick who looks like a bit character from Xena: Warrior Princess. It just seems fake... It reminds of one of the best episodes of SG-1, in which Jack (Anderson's character) served "undercover" as a technical adviser on a TV show that seemed too similar to the real Stargate project so he could find out what was going on. They called the fake show "Wormhole Xtreme!" and it was loaded with bad acting, casting, cheap sets, and cliches. I'm afraid Atlantis is going to be the real Wormhole Xtreme!
      • by justanyone ( 308934 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:57PM (#9710588) Homepage Journal

        The role of Samantha Carter (played by Amanda Tapping [imdb.com]) is a great boost to women. WE NAMED OUR DAUGHTER 'CARTER' AFTER HER (and the president).

        I recognize that they give Carter too many responsibilities (being uber-brilliant and super-soldier). My wife commented that they got rid of the Dr. Janet Frasier (played by Teryl Rothery [imdb.com]) to make sure the show wasn't too heavy with women in top positions, that would be threatening.

        I doubt my wife is correct, but she makes a good point. Are they going to replace and add characters to regain the male / female balance on this show?

        One of the PREMIER COOL things that shows like Stargate do, IMHO, is allow stodgey males (young and old) to VIEW women soldiers, and thus experience them as highly capable, rough-and-tumble, smart, and fallible human beings.

        Just seeing a woman in a role allows you to change your preconceptions of what roles people should be in. That goes for having a handicapped person (amputee, maybe) working in the SGC as a technician. The part would be small, in the background, but it would make a big difference in how people saw people with physical limitations.

        The original Star Trek put a black woman in a senior leadership position (Lieuntenant Uhura, communications officer, okay, it isn't a huge department, but it's important, and it's on the bridge). That redefined what was possible for black women both on TV and off.

        I hope Stargate continues to push boundaries and explore what we perceive as normal.

        Of course, they could just ignite a firestorm and introduce a Gua'ould named Jesus. Or another namd 'Moshe' (Moses). Or another named, 'Siddhartha'. Or 'Mohammed'. I would recommend they stay out of that territory, though, there'd be LOTS of pushback from their fanbase and zealots alike.

        -- Kevin J. Rice
        • by Grishnakh ( 216268 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @03:49PM (#9711098)
          Of course, they could just ignite a firestorm and introduce a Gua'ould named Jesus. Or another namd 'Moshe' (Moses). Or another named, 'Siddhartha'. Or 'Mohammed'. I would recommend they stay out of that territory, though, there'd be LOTS of pushback from their fanbase and zealots alike.

          Personally, I'd like it if they did this. It'd make more sense that these religious figures were actually aliens than the superstitious BS that organized religions ask us to believe.
        • Re:SG-1 Continuity? (Score:5, Informative)

          by meta-monkey ( 321000 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @04:51PM (#9711710) Journal
          Of course, they could just ignite a firestorm and introduce a Gua'ould named Jesus. Or another namd 'Moshe' (Moses). Or another named, 'Siddhartha'. Or 'Mohammed'.

          The problem is that it wouldn't work in terms of the story. The mythologies the Gau'ould pretended to be are ancient...like 3000 B.C. and earlier. In the movie, Ra first came to the Egyptians in 8000B.C. This is all far back enough in time, with few written records, that the acts of these "gods" could be written off to superstitions and what not. That's really not the case with Jesus and Mohammed, who existed only 2000 (or 1400) years ago. I think I've got that right...Mohammed was around in 600AD, right? There are too many written records from those times, that the acts of the Gua'ould would be well-known.

          Anyway, I also don't think the stories would mesh well, either. I don't seem to recall any stories about Jesus killing people with a flick of his hand or commanding people worship him or be destroyed. If the Stargate writers did something like this, it would seem like a stretch and a gimmick, as the story of Jesus is nothing like the stories of the angry, vengeful gods of ancient mythologies.
          • Actually... (Score:5, Interesting)

            by Kjella ( 173770 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @08:01PM (#9712873) Homepage
            [Asbestous suit]

            Jesus would be an interesting character to do. Look at the old testament, lots to pick from there... fall from Paradise (forbidden knowledge about the Gau'ould), destroying whole cities (Sodoma and Gomorra), tower of Babel (slaves uniting and revolting?). Sounds like the work of a Gau'ould to me. From afar, he played with them like toys. Oh and don't forget the chosen people with Abraham. Particular breed of human hosts?

            Then something big happened. Make up a good story. Senile like Lord Hu, had a "religious experience", touched by the Ancients, take your pick. Or better yet, Jesus is the human host after the parasite died. He still commands the Gau'ould devices to perform "miracles", but is the good guy. He regrets all that has been done in the past, and tries to take on all human sin as absolution.

            Of course, you're about to screw up the whole trinity thing (with the Holy Ghost being some Gau'ould magic), rewrite the Bible since Creation, claim that neither "God" nor Jesus is of the divine, that Christianity is worshipping an evil alien and a plain human and that the Jews are equally wrong too. Oh, and the muslims will be pissed already, since they claim to decend from Abraham too. Any more we could piss off?

            [Keeping asbestous suit on]
  • by mr_zorg ( 259994 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:46PM (#9709861)
    News for Nerds. Stuff that matters. Stuff that we told you about last week. Stuff that's exaggerated. Stuff that's on TV.
  • by HunterZero ( 102709 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:46PM (#9709862) Homepage
    I thought that SG1 was cancelled. Now, why would they cancel one show and then start up another show that will probably be the same, except with a new cast and no McGyver.

    I mean, I don't know about you, but without McGyver it just won't be the same.
    • by Omega1045 ( 584264 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:59PM (#9710009)
      Do you even watch the Sci-Fi channel? I don't think they have had a commercial break in the last 2 months where they haven't shown the SG1 Season Premiere commercial back-to-back with the Atlantis promo.

      Your nerd privileges have been revoked. You must now go hang out with the jocks.
      • by justanyone ( 308934 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:34PM (#9710368) Homepage Journal

        Your nerd privileges have been revoked. You must now go hang out with the jocks.

        It's not _that_ bad. He should just have to hang out with the Band geeks, and learn their lingo before returning.
        • Ombrurshure
        • 8th position trombone
        • 26-inch step
        • split reed
        • 7th-grade oboe
        • bassoon strap
        • 2nd chair blues
        • tight embrasure
        After all, the jocks don't respect nerds, but band geeks cross many high school subcultures [wikipedia.org].

        If the writers at Sci-Fi's Stargate shows understood their target audiences, they would feature many references to the above and other in-jokes from high school subcultures that could be dropped in to make for greater entertainment value.
    • by Azrael Newtype ( 688138 ) <c.a.eads@gmail.com> on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:59PM (#9710016)
      I don't really know why this is considered funny. Well, the McGyver reference is almost certainly what did it, but if you watched Sci-Fi, you'd realize not only was it not cancelled as the new season started last Friday, but also 'McGyver' is back as a Brigadier General.

      So... seriously was the whole ignorance thing supposed to be funny, or was it just the belief that Richard Dean Anderson actually is McGyver (who I'd like to mention was extremely anti-gun, unlike Jack.)

    • I never really watched McGyver when it was on, so I didn't really remember the actor - I have heard all of the jokes about nuclear bombs from bubble gum and such, and use some of them from time to time (albeit infrequently). Up until now I watch SG1 on and off and tend to enjoy it (until now). Everytime I watch it, I'm gonna expect O'neal to create a wormhole out of a pack of cigarettes or something otherwise silly.
  • Does anyone know when SciFi's Battlestar Galactia miniseries will be released on DVD? I really liked it and would love to own a copy.
  • by Archfeld ( 6757 ) *
    especially the one where the interviewee doesn't even say anything just makes a break up the ramp for the gate, and the AF security jock lays out in a full on body tackle. I laughed lemonaid out my nose when I saw that ad... I hope it is good, maybe some NON-BIPEDAL, non-symmetrical aliens :)
    • My wife and I are both SG-1 fans and when we saw that commercial we ended up laughing our asses off.

      I also liked the people who do the flips across the stage and carter and teal'c flip the pads over to show 10's.

      On a side note, did anybody else notice that in the "pumper" for "New Order" they stated that "Finally the replicators will be destroyed". Needless to say, not only did the replicators get away, but it looks as though they've become even more distructive since it looks as though they've become se
  • Sorry... (Score:3, Funny)

    by HotNeedleOfInquiry ( 598897 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:51PM (#9709923)
    I'll be at I, Robot

  • by Savatte ( 111615 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:56PM (#9709970) Homepage Journal
    so if you win this contest, you get a walk-on role. What's the consolation prize, a staring role?

    thank you, ill be here all week. don't forget to tip your waitress
    • by Anonymous Coward
      so if you win this contest, you get a walk-on role. What's the consolation prize, a staring role?

      staring - To look directly and fixedly, often with a wide-eyed gaze

      starring - To play the leading role in a theatrical or film production

      So yeah, a staring role would probably be what you get as a consolation prize. You and everyone watching at home.
    • Given that Richard Dean Anderson has now fallen into a second series where he's trapped by a stereotyped character (although this time exactly the opposite character he played before- the guns issue being the most obvious, and apparently from his interview in "From Stargate To Atlantis", he's personally a lot more like McGyver and a lot less like Jack O'Neil); the staring role would be a death sentence to an emerging career. In fact, I think it has to Amanda's.
  • Well that and some TDF coverage. Go Lance!

    Is there a TVAA?

  • by confused one ( 671304 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @01:59PM (#9710013)
    looks like my wife's going into labor now; and, I'm gonna miss the premiers for both Stargate Atlantis and I, Robot.

    *looks around* What am I doing still posting on /.

    *grabs keys*

    • by Patrik_AKA_RedX ( 624423 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:41PM (#9710446) Journal
      Sheesh, dude, don't they have taxis where you live. *rolls eyes*
    • by ediron2 ( 246908 ) * on Thursday July 15, 2004 @05:58PM (#9712182) Journal
      looks like my wife's going into labor now; and, I'm gonna miss the premiers for both Stargate Atlantis and I, Robot.

      *looks around* What am I doing still posting on /.
      *grabs keys*
      I've got 2 kids, age 4 and 2. Trust me, you're gonna miss more than just the premiers. In fact, your movie-theater days are about to be significantly altered for several years. Not curtailed (unless something bad like 'Garfield' pushes you to suicide midmovie). But definitely fewer, and with many compromises. Many compromises. In fact, let's all say it together... "I for one welcome my new stinky, screaming, drooling 2-foot overlord."

      BTW, 'Netflix' is your friend. And any gaming habits can continue only if you're wearing headphones. If you're ambitious, you'll learn to rock the baby with one foot while fragging aliens at 3am.

      The good news is that if you're an attentive dad, you're gonna be busy and having enough fun that you won't big-M *MISS* these shows. You just won't see them anytime soon.

      (Heh... Call her a cab... I'm still laughing about that reply. While you're at it, call and reserve yourself a bed at the morgue).

      Obligatory Lame OT buster: Did I mention Stargate on DVD has some cool supporting material? Lots and LOTS of commentary, featurettes, etc.

  • by gelfling ( 6534 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:00PM (#9710028) Homepage Journal
    http://www.thegateroom.com/forsale.shtml

    Damn, they're surely gonna kick me out of the club now.
  • by Cyno01 ( 573917 ) <Cyno01@hotmail.com> on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:11PM (#9710130) Homepage
    Or do the Wraiths (the new baddies) all look like Marilyn Manson?
  • Feh! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Art_XIV ( 249990 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:14PM (#9710166) Journal

    I still want Crusade [scifi.com] back. :(

  • Spoiler! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Kredal ( 566494 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @02:28PM (#9710307) Homepage Journal
    I hear the Lone Gunmen die in this episode!
  • by IronChefMorimoto ( 691038 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @03:44PM (#9711046)
    In other news, the Star Trek series was saved as the infamous Brannon and Braga duo who have single-handedly butchered the ST universe were sent through the Stargate BACK to Earth WITHOUT a GDO code.

    The trip was actually an elaborate plan by a group of serious Star Trek fans -- fans who only wish that their franchise would have as much life again as the Stargate franchise appears to enjoy.

    Brannon and Braga were "invited" to the "set" of Stargate SG-1 under the pretense of a review of the show's innovative special effects. In reality, the Star Trek fans begged the Stargate crew to actually build a REAL Stargate and send the duo out to the far reaches of our known galaxy, where they met the REAL G'hould (sp?) enemy depicted in the show.

    According to reports from the set, the two reported back from the other side of the REAL working gate, pretty much screaming their asses off and begging to be sent back. After being ass-whipped by a lesser G'hould god named Lohr Atana (a.k.a. Frank the Destroyer), the Butchers of ST were sent back through the G'hould Stargate to Earth -- without a GDO.

    Had Brannon and Braga actually ever shown an ounce of consistency with some of their ST storylines, they would've remembered such key AND CONSISTENT plot elements as the GDO, the code, the iris, etc. and asked for a GDO transmitter before being sent through the Stargate.

    The last "communication" ST fans at the Stargate SG-1 set had with Brannon and Braga was the dull thud of their bodies slapping up against an improvised iris on the REAL Stargate. A few minutes later, the Stargate was reactivated, and Frank the Destroyer sent a handwritten note asking the crew to never send idiots like that to his domain again or suffer enslavement at the yada, yada, evil bad guy bullshit talk, yada.

    After the REAL Stargate was dismantled (at the request of SCI-FI CHANNEL lawyers insistent on not actually allowing Frank the Destroyer free access to Earth and our solar system), the cast and crew of Stargate SG-1 treated the elated ST fans to a catered party and autograph session.

    Plans are in the works to have the ST: Enterprise crew find a Stargate in the third season of the poorly rated show so they can travel back through time and save themselves from cancellation. Brad Wright, of Stargate fame, will direct the pilot episode of Stargate ST-1: Enterprise.

    Gay-ass pop music will NOT be used in the title sequence and credits of the revamped show. Some of the ST fans at the SG-1 set have vowed to send the guy that sings the current theme song through the REAL Stargate as well. They are negotiating rights for a legal transfer of liability for said Stargate with SCI-FI CHANNEL lawyers.

    IronChefMorimoto
  • by g0bshiTe ( 596213 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @04:02PM (#9711270)
    Come on SG Atlantis bieng as good as the original. I think naught.

    And the villans, these wraith things. Are we really to believe these creatures who killed the ancients are stupid enough for a lesser lifeform (humans) to fool like what happens to teh Ghou'ld every week. Come on now. At least tehy were parasites.
  • Quick question.... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Fnkmaster ( 89084 ) on Thursday July 15, 2004 @05:40PM (#9712061)
    Alright, I'm about to expose myself as a huge nerd.


    Was anybody else bothered by the fact that Dr. Elizabeth Weir was played at the end of the 7th season by a different actress? All the character development was done by Jessica Steen, who did a bang up job with a hard role to play, so much so that a lot of us were really looking forward to seeing her in SG:A. Now they bring in a replacement, Torri Higginson, who looks and acts nothing like Jessica Steen. I don't know the reasons behind it, but they should have cast somebody in the first place they were happy with and wanted the role. Having the actress swap created major cognitive dissonance for me watching the 8th season opener - from a purely aesthetic perspective, I could barely stand to watch Higginson, she didn't play the same character at all that Steen played.


    Anyway, I don't mean to sound like a fanboy bitch, I'm not a nutcase zealot about this stuff. I just think this issue was not handled well by the show producers. Maybe I am noticing it in particular because they usually handle these kinds of things so well on SG1 that it's one of the few sci-fi shows that I find easy to achieve suspension of disbelief with. Please, SG1 production team, don't do this to us again. I just hope going into SG:A that Higginson does a better job developing this character, or I don't know how I'll be able to watch the show.


    As it is, I'm desperately afraid that Teal'c with a fuzzy head and O'Neill in charge of SGC is going to fundamentally change the 8th season for the worse. Come on guys, remember what happened when you tried to kill off Michael Shanks? Did anybody like that season?


    Alright, now I've gotten this off my chest. I hope Season 8 is as good as SG1 has generally been and I hope that SG:A doesn't sully the name with a crappy spinoff.

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