


IT's Musical Habits 676
operand sent in a fun little article about the listening habits of IT. It seems that developers are headbangers, Microsoft certified pros are Britney fans, and management goes for Mozart. Tragically The Who is not included... Linux users tend toward Electronica, and Security goes for The Dead.
200 students? that's it? (Score:5, Insightful)
Wow, a poll of a whole 200 students...not exactly a big enough sample size for this study to be taken seriously...plus, what do the british know about music anyway...(oh, c'mon)...
Re:200 students? that's it? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:200 students? that's it? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:200 students? that's it? (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, for every crappy Beatles there are 100 shiny, happy, commercial stateside Monkees wannabees....
Have to be careful here with music tastes (Score:5, Insightful)
What is it with people. Can't anyone have likes and dis-likes in music? If someone says they don't like hip-hop, then people jump down their throats calling them small-minded, yet would a hip-hop fan sit down and listen to an album of Hank Williams Sr.? Or Patsy Cline?
Would a fan of opera actually spend his or her time going to the store to buy a Megadeth album? Life is too short, there are only so many hours in a persons life they can actually listen to and enjoy music...why waste it on stuff you don't like?
There is no one out there that likes every form of music there is, you may think you do, but trust me, there is always something out there that will make your skin crawl no matter what you like. If you like a particular style or genre of music, don't worry if someone else doesn't like it. Music is a personal thing.
People are different! Wow, what a concept!
Re:Have to be careful here with music tastes (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, by some chance, I happen to know that my wife's current collection of CDs in her car for the drives to/from work include Eminem and Patsy Cline. No Hank Williams Sr or Jr at the moment, but they are in the collection.
She has mentioned humming some of Eminem's songs (which often do have real melodies, unlike most rap) at meetings, and enjoying the grins of the few people who recognize them. This is in a m
Re:Have to be careful here with music tastes (Score:3, Insightful)
There is only one type of music I won't listen to, and that's lazy, overproduced, low concept pop. If a person doesn't care
Re:Have to be careful here with music tastes (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Have to be careful here with music tastes (Score:3, Insightful)
Exhibit A: emacs v. vi
Exhibit B: Windows v. the world
Etc.
It is far easier to pass on the whole mess with the touchy-feely crap.
Re:Have to be careful here with music tastes (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Have to be careful here with music tastes (Score:3, Insightful)
There is absolutely nothing forbidding me from expressing likes and dislikes for specific hobbies, interests, worldviews, etc., etc. Everyone has these preferences. But when you start elevating your own predilections into some sort of fundamental moral truth, by ascribing your own preferences to "The Will of God" or "Scientific Truth" or "The Will of the People" or whatever euphemism you prefer for turning preferences into fact, then you're not showi
Re:Have to be careful here with music tastes (Score:3, Interesting)
Boy, did you nail that on the head! Maybe it's just my experience, but I get this more from hip-hop fans than any other genre. Usually they accuse me of never having listened to it, and when I point out that listening is how I came to realize I don't care for it, I get accused of only sampling "mainstream" acts. Give me Steve Hackett or John W
Re:Have to be careful here with music tastes (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:200 students? that's it? (Score:2, Funny)
European History (Score:4, Interesting)
The last episode of the great endless European war was a double-header that started in 1914, wiped out an entire generation by 1918. It would have just gone on and on had not the flu wiped out everybody that the bullets and gas didn't. They took a generational break and went back at it in 1939. By then the Europeans had so impressed everyone else with their savageness and blood-lust that entire continent was kept split right down the center for two whole generations with the threat that if they didn't behave, they would get nuked out of existence and written out of the history books. The Europeans responded by refusing to fuck and go to church, so now they have the lowest birthrate in the world, to the relief of their neighbors.
So now they pretend to be united so they occupiers will ignore them. But if history is any guide, they'll restart their endless war again sometime between 2010 and 2020 with the latest generation of techno death toys. Maybe this time they will succeed in actually completing the massive continental suicide that they have been working on for the past 2000 years. God knows, next time around there's going to be a lot of people around to help them do it.
Re:European History (Score:3, Funny)
Naw, we are a peace loving and industrious people and we will fucking kill anyone who isn't.
What.. no Led? (Score:2, Redundant)
Re:What.. no Led? (Score:5, Funny)
My friends all use Linux and are trying to convert me.
I wait for registration, each day until three
So oh Lord, won't you buy me, Windows XP.
KFG
Re:What.. no Led? (Score:4, Funny)
So, what do slashdotters listen to?
Rock
Rock
Rock
Weird Al Yankovic
Rock
Spaceballs sound clips
Rock
Rock
Rock
Rock
What about Janis Joplin? (Score:3, Funny)
Nothing don't mean nothing honey if it ain't free, now now.
And feeling good was easy, Lord, when the screen went blue,
You know feeling good was good enough for me,
Good enough for me and my Windows XP.
Re:What.. no Led? (Score:4, Funny)
Oh Lord, won't you buy me Windows XP?
My friends all use Linux, they get it for free
Work hard for my money, but I can't pay the fee
So oh Lord, won't you buy me Windows XP?
Re:What.. no Led? (Score:2)
One needs a bit of ballance, so throw on some Clapton, of D&D era, some classic Santana, ok ANY Santana, and some Floyd. Now we're talking.
Re:What.. no Led? (Score:2)
I always felt that the only person who couldn't complain was he who voted for the party in power, ie those who are at fault! (though I admit they could complain that they were lied to, I suppose)
hmmm (Score:2, Funny)
Re:hmmm (Score:3, Funny)
Poetic... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Poetic... (Score:2)
Re:Poetic... (Score:2)
Re:Poetic... (Score:2)
Re:Poetic... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Poetic... (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Poetic... (Score:5, Funny)
Not to forget "hit me baby one more time", beautifully illustrating the admins vain attempts to bring up task manager by repeated hitting of ctrl+alt+del on an out-of-control system.
Re:Poetic... (Score:3, Interesting)
Apparently [wired.com], this dude is one of the most popular artists with iTunes too. So what does that say about Microsofties listening habits? I'm sure his music is OK, but would new age covers of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow/What a Wonderful World" help keep you focused if you were busy coding like a fiend in a caffe
Re:Poetic... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Poetic... (Score:3, Funny)
They left out IT's favorite music... (Score:4, Funny)
...and at the bottom of the article.... (Score:5, Funny)
You Forgot (Score:4, Funny)
Re:You Forgot (Score:2)
You are hereby sentenced to listen to J-Lo and Avril's rendition of "Jingle Bells" for three hours!
Not to put too fine a point on it ... (Score:4, Funny)
Microsoft and Britney Spears connection .... (Score:5, Funny)
I must be the odd man out... (Score:2)
Plus, I have a LOT of other things to do with my time than deciding on playlists and spend cash on discs and downloads and devices.
[barry] On
College homework (Score:2)
More seriously, all the gurus I know don't restrict themselves to one kind of music. Well, for Microsoft pros, Britney could be an explaination to all the problems...
Re:College homework (Score:3, Interesting)
Hmmm
My main reaction to this is that they completely ignored the possibility that people might have a mix of really different stuff.
Next to my linux workstation there's a Mac PowerBook. I checked the "Recently Played" list and found:
Grateful Dead "Playing in the Band"
Andy Statman "Midnight Zhok"
Ad Vielle Que Pourra "Micro-Polka", "Valse Minette"
Vienna Teng "Green Island Serenade"
Peter Hedlu
I agree with article (Score:2)
What's the point ? (Score:2, Insightful)
I thought the music that we listen too was more related to whom we listen to music with, so if you have a manager who grew in some Bronxesque area, he'd listen to the Ramones or Public Enemy rathger than to Mozart...
Hmmmm... (Score:2, Funny)
That explains a lot.
Hmm... (Score:5, Interesting)
Hmm.... (Score:2, Funny)
This is about as useful as saying... (Score:3, Insightful)
I do agree that the functions of the brain that enable logical and organizational thinking somehow also enable either strong inclination for music or strong musical abilities. But to say that developers or *nix admins tend to like different kinds of music is going a bit far.
Who cares what they're listening to (Score:3, Funny)
Missing... (Score:4, Funny)
I wonder... (Score:5, Funny)
"K.. is for Kompressor!"
Re:I wonder... (Score:2)
Linux users (Score:3, Funny)
On a more serious side, I'm a Linux user who listens mostly to various types of metal (Metallica, In Flames, Opeth...)
Re:Linux users (Score:5, Funny)
Let the flames begin!
Information Security Professional (Score:2)
What do network engineers like? (Score:2)
Developer, Analyst, Sysadmin...My Music (Score:2)
I bet (Score:2)
What no who they are good music too.
This is goofy (Score:4, Interesting)
And not to nitpick, but 'Electro' (in the article) is not short for Electronic. It is actually an identifiable style deriving from Kraftwerk (which they have on there, but the Orb and Underworld are not Electro) meshing electronics with funk (see "Planet Rock" [wikipedia.org]). It then has all of its offshoots over the years like Darkwave (which most folks just confuse with Industrial anway) and Electroclash (Adult., Dopplereffekt, Fischerspooner, Peaches).
So what's on our lab iPod playlist?
Twine Twine, IDM/ambient.
Mr Vegas Pull Up, Dancehall.
various Welcome to the D: Electro, Electro.
various Lo Fibre Companion, grindy bass ambient from Birmingham, UK.
Re:This is goofy (Score:2)
Favoured genre: Electro
Top three bands:
1. The Orb
2. Underworld
3. Kraftwerk
And not to nitpick, but 'Electro' (in the article) is not short for Electronic.
No, it definitely does not. And the confusion becomes greater when in fact The Orb and Underworld are electronica. I wouldn't call them "bands" either. Oh it's all so confusing!
Oh... and by the way. "Little Fluffy Clouds" owns us all.
So what's on our lab iPod playlist?
Twine Twine, IDM/ambient.
Mr Vegas Pull Up, Dancehall.
var
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The Fall (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:The Fall (Score:2)
Hey Mr Pharmacist..
OMG !! I'm in the wrong biz... (Score:2)
For now... I have concluded that I should not be in IT LOL (btw I'm a developer)
Was Listening to some Jamie Cullum this morning (jazzy stuff)
when I code... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:when I code... (Score:2)
Ah hell, who am I kidding? It's just good stuff to listen to, even if you are just trolling Slashdot. =)
Re:when I code... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:when I code... (Score:3, Interesting)
My general listening habits for simple coding include (just google for them, I don't feel like digging up/typing all the links):
Although when doing more mathmatical coding (like reordering matrixes because of graphic tiling, and
Translation: (Score:5, Funny)
Microsoft certified pros are Britney fans,
and management goes for Mozart.
Linux users tend toward Electronica,
and Security goes for The Dead.
Q: Are we not men? (Score:3, Interesting)
I've talked with a few people in IT around here about music before (varying positions, but mostly programming) and it seems we all agree on liking the following bands:
1. Devo
2. Dead Milkmen (have yet to meet an IT guy who doesn't like Stuart)
After that, there's not much agreement, but I am a bit surprised that these are the two bands we almost unanimously agreed on liking.
Where is Progressive Rock? (Score:5, Interesting)
Personally, I like King Crimson, Genesis, Gong (of Radio GNOME Invisible fame, no less!) among other stuff.
Luddite (Score:2)
Don't read too much into the MCP-Britney connection - I'm an MCSD (certified in Java too) and I think her music sucks donkey balls.
Bach? (Score:3, Insightful)
But also considering the logical build-up of the music. Looking at friends and colleagues, I have a feeling that there are more Bach lovers among beta people than there are among alpha people.
Security? (Score:5, Funny)
So... security is stoned. That certainly gives me the warm and fuzzies.
Re:Security? (Score:2, Interesting)
For the truly heaviest, scariest interrupt-driven bit twisting crank-addled software, nothing quite beats Tangerine Dream...
Sysadmin (Score:2)
I find it interesting (Score:2)
For me, LRB, Foreigner, Kansas, and Meatloaf. Sometimes some other oddball stuff. Oh, and the musical "War of the Worlds".
Trance (Score:2)
Boy of summ......IT (Score:3, Funny)
A little voice inside my head said don't look back you can never look back....
Slayer (Score:2)
The Dead (Score:4, Insightful)
While often simply dismissed musically as "hippie crap" and "meaningless poetic fluff," this is not what is important here.
What is important is that The Dead flies right in the face of the music industry.
You see, The Dead is often considered to be the most sucessful band in history, as they have played in front of more people then any group in musical history. Not only that, but each year the group (or whats left of them) makes millions in profits from various sales.
All the while giving away the vast majority of their music for free! [gdlive.com]
This is my favorite example of a "happy middle ground" that can be reached between bands and listeners. Sorry RIAA, your claims are false. And The Grateful Dead proves it.
Re:The Dead (Score:3, Insightful)
Let's also not forget the heavy drug use that was rampant at Dead shows. I don't think everyone would be groovin' out to a 20-minute song if the crowd was straight-edge.
The Grateful Dead are the exception, not the rule. I don't see many kids followin
Re:The Dead (Score:4, Funny)
Let's also not forget the heavy drug use that was rampant at Dead shows.
Is it just me, or is there a connection here?
Electronica (Score:3, Funny)
How long is the MTV term going to haunt us? Why is it so wrong to call music "techno" now? At least that describes the music -- music made with technology. What in the holy fuck does "electronica" mean? Please, if you know then share because I sure as hell have no idea. And don't come at me with "music made with electronic instruments". Techno is not all 808s, 303s, and Roland W-30s. No, "real" instruments are also used as there is no comparing a digital imitation to the real thing. But, they are used in conjuction with technology. So, where did this damn "electronica" word come from and why is it now, seemingly, synonimous with techno?
All music is techno or electronica. (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh, you mean, electronic technology?
All music, even high, classical, concert or cult music (whatever name you want to use) nowadays is made using during its conposition, performance or both electronic technology.
I don't understand why you get so worked out about a niche genre whose most outstanding feature is the endles boring repetition of loops.
Age profile (Score:5, Interesting)
Developer profile: 25-35 years old, teenager when Iron Maiden and Megadeth were all that.
Project manager profile: 40-50 years old, teenager when Pink Floyd was hot.
Security profile: same age or slightly older than a project manager, given up hopes of ever becoming a project manager, not young enough to be a top-of-the-line developer anymore. Gone into security (and taking courses on that) because the "experience of old age" does give an edge in (a) making young developers listen to you when you give them security advice, and (b) not having enough dreams for the future anymore to let features go before security (no enthusiasm to cloud judgment), etcetera. Just the kind of person to have grown up in the days when Grateful Dead / The Doors / Jimi Hendrix were cool.
Or am I way off the mark here?
Re:Age profile (Score:3, Insightful)
Frankly, that survey seems lame, and wildly inaccurate at best.
I was a teenager when Green Day and the Offspring were all that. I couldn't like the Offspring any less.
file formats (Score:5, Funny)
Java guys: mp3
Mainframe: shn (the only way to listen to Dead shows)
Sysadmins: ogg
OS X: aac
Security guy: anything as long as it's on an encrypted partition
Lounge and Chillout (Score:4, Informative)
Two years ago I started listening to modern coffee house and contemporary easy listening music. I got completely hooked and spent a small fortune on various Cafe del Mar, Cafe Abstrait and Ministry of Sound Chillout compilations.
Lounge and Chillout are extremely good for backdropping serious IT work (serious == Linux, OSS and real programming). Interesting enough to keep you going and lighten you up, but unobstrusive enough so it won't go on your nerves. I even got my friends hooked to the style. Now that I have a lounge/chillout collection of considerable size I'm about to rip them, to save a years worth of presents for all my buddies.
That style of contemporary music is my tip for anyone looking for a nice way to color up his coding sessions.
Re:Britney is greatly underrated (Score:5, Funny)
Two of them, actually. I believe they're referred to as "left" and "right".
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Re:Britney is greatly underrated (Score:2)
YAMHD (Score:2)
Well, I listen to a lot more than just metal... (jungle, brit pop, 60's jazz, etc.) but I do listen to metal.
Re:YAMHD (Score:2)
on the other hand, i know a lot of headbanging developpers, and the one MS guy we have hear looks like the kind that would love britney...
Re:Truly Enlightning (Score:2)
Forget the 80's Metal. I'm a Developer, at least Sun says so, listening to Novasonic,and Dir en Grey.
Re:Truly Enlightning (Score:2)
Pigeonholing people based on simple criteria like job description & favorite musical genre is a foolish exercise. While there may be a correlation between the kind of work you do and the kind of music you listen to, this study isn't going to find it.
Re:Heavy Metal, why am I not surprised? (Score:5, Insightful)
When you code 10-14 hours a day, I find it's nice to listen to something *not* coming out of a computer (well, ok, the sound *is* coming out of a computer, but way back once it actually came out of an analog instrument).
The beat is set by a human being, an undertuned 8-string guitar roars thru the distorted tube amplifier (ok and then it all goes into a 12-bit ADC, back and forth between different media and in the end comes out of speakers attached to a computer - but never mind the last part.) - see, that is the kind of music that gets me thru the day in front of the 22" CRT