Kansas AG Rejects Settlement Discs 327
RWarrior(fobw) writes "Kansas's Attorney General has rejected 1600 CDs by 25 different artist as part of the music industry's anti-trust settlement. Is this a community values issue, a censorship issue, or just crap music being foisted off onto the public as part of a meaningless settlement?"
Weird Al (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Weird Al (Score:3, Funny)
Anyway, I am anxiously awaiting Frank Sinatra's next album. The last one was *stereophonic*! Nothing like a little Frank to put some moxie in your step.
Re:Weird Al (Score:3, Funny)
Good for them. (Score:2)
To qoute the article (Score:5, Insightful)
And those where just Britney Spears CDs too!
More on topic though, it seems almost like they send the states whatever they have sitting in a warehouse without any rhyme or reason. A lot of those CDs *shouldn't* be in libraries imho.
I wonder if the settlement was for Books-On-Cd as well, as that would of been a welcome addition to the blind and near-blind library patrons.
Re:To qoute the article (Score:3, Insightful)
Exactly. The record companies got over nicely with this so-called settlement. From the titles and quanitities cited in earlier articles, they basically shipped to the libraries crap they couldn't sell and would have been otherwise shipping to landfills.
Re:To qoute the article (Score:2)
And illiterate book-lovers.
Re:To qoute the article (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:To qoute the article (Score:2)
Looks Like All of the Above (Score:2, Insightful)
Just like when they sent a library in Wisconsin 1000 copies of The
Re:Looks Like All of the Above (Score:2)
Rejecting a popular, critically acclaimed group like Outkast for encouraging violence in Kansas is a bizarre example of censorship, certainly rooted in stereotypes of hip-hop and black people. It's bizarre that most of the posts are supporting Kansas on this one.
Crap Music (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Crap Music (Score:2)
Settlement? (Score:4, Insightful)
As a parent in Kansas, I think the AG is right to refuse some of the cd's. I watch what my kids listen to (my older kids listen to all kinds of rap)..but not my young daughters.
If the record companies are pissed...so be it. They lost...didn't they?
Re:Settlement? (Score:5, Insightful)
If parents don't want their kids checking out what they view as "distasteful" or "offensive" CDs from the library, then they need to make sure they're accompanying their kids to the library. Just because children are allowed in libraries doesn't mean all the material in them has to be targeted to (or even appropriate for) an under-18 audience.
I'm not suggesting that libraries should provide pornography, but I'm sure folks who disapprove of some of these musical expressions wouldn't think twice about allowing a Danielle Steel novel on the shelves. "Values," indeed.
p
Re:Settlement? (Score:2)
Notorious B.I.G. CD's are the audio version of pornography.
[from "Fuck Me"]
uh, yeah, uh, oooh, oh yeah, mmm, yeah
Oh fuck me you black mothafucka, oooohh yeah!!!
Oh fuck me you black Kentucky Fried Chicken eatin'
MMMMMM, Aaahhh
Ohhh, ooohhh, yeah
You mothafuckin' gangsta killin', mutha fuckin black mafia ass
[From "Me & My Bitch]
But you was my bitch, the one who'd never snitch (uhh)
Love me when I'm broke or when I'm filthy fuckin rich
An
Re:Settlement? (Score:2)
Re:Settlement? (Score:2)
Right. And should the RIAA (or a SanFran resident) be able to decide what is or is not 'obscene' in Kansas, and what should be stocked on their library shelves? Similarly, should the Kansas AG determine and enforce what is 'obscene' in San Francisco? I imagine he'd have a problem with the whole gay thing.
Let Kansas do their own thing, and let SanFran do their own thing.
{no jokes about who is gonna do their own 'thing
Re:Settlement? (Score:2)
Library content (Score:2, Insightful)
"Sorry sir, we don't have 'Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time' because the under-10's wouldn't be able to understand it, how about 'Thomas the Tank Engine goes to a Black Hole' instead?"
Parents and Libraries (Score:2)
One of the problems is that parents all too often have the idea that their (and usually everyone elses) kids should be protected from
Re:Settlement? (Score:2, Interesting)
Lucky. (Score:4, Insightful)
Kline (Score:5, Insightful)
I listen to a local radio station called 96.5 the buzz, and every friday they do a "current events" day, where people call in.
Well, people started to call in about the CD's incident and bashing it for censorship.
Then a really weird thing happened, the two Junior DJ's got a call from Phill Kline. They did an on the spot interview on why he was censoring them.
I guess what it came down to was that his general rule was
"If the CD has a track that is about violence against women, or the degredation of women, and promotes youth violence then the entire CD needs to be removed"
He said that he supported his staff, because it would look worse for him to allow CD's that had violence in them, than to allow them through.
Since his department was responsible for handling the donations, they were responsible for the content, unlike a situation where the Library system was responsible.
I think this is a good case of Covering his ass, espeically in an environment where everyone is hunting for some moral reason to remove someone, instead of taking factors such as freedom of speech into play etc.
The problem is, I am not as good as explaining his position as he was, and so this is probably going to recieve some replies that were answered well by him in the interview, but I am doing my best to explain where he was coming from.
He did what he felt was important, since this was an issue of a dispersment which he was responsible for.
Re:Kline (Score:2)
Right. You respect him because he is determining what meets those standards above? How about books that feature violence against women? racism? violence in general? What about movies that do the same? Libraries do pay attention to parental warning labels and will not lend out media materials to people who do not meet age requirements. Basically you ar
Re:Kline (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Kline (Score:5, Insightful)
Replace the RIAA with Microsoft. No imagine MS was ordered to freely distribute Windows to states. Now imagine one of those states refused because Windows wasn't what the majority of people wanted. Is he censoring software? Ignoring the large group of people here who are going to say he's a hero or something, he's not censoring anything, but faithfully representing his state. Not everything is a big conspiracy and there are limits to everything, most of the content of these CD's has no place in a government run institution.
Re:Kline (Score:3, Insightful)
I think this alone is an important point about censorship. There is a significant differene between "You can't listen to this" and "You can't get this HERE." Nobody seemed to understand this difference when Slashdot's pitchforks were aimed at the FCC over Mrs. Janet's boob.
Re:Kline (Score:4, Insightful)
(Now, if you object overall to a library system's policies on what they purchase, that's a completely different issue.)
Re:Kline (Score:2)
Kentucky isn't preventing the sale of these disks, or forcing you to listen
Re:Kline (Score:2)
In part, I believe that its a form of censorship, but there's a larger fiasco going on here. Consumers in areas large enough to have retail music shops like Best Buy or Circuit city, ie places that put out ads paid for by the Record Label
Re:Kline (Score:2)
No offense meant, but to have a lot of respect for Kline, you'd have to have a lot of ignorance [bostonphoenix.com] for Kline's actions as AG [exgaywatch.com]. I say this as a fellow Kansan.
Re:Kline (Score:2)
Whew, so it's still OK against post-adolescent white males? Philster, you are truly a representative for (some of) the people!
Re:Kline (Score:2)
And yes, I do live in Kansas and some of the elected-officials' actions here drive me batty. And the conservatives on the state board-of-education just gained a majority again, so we may be seeing a return of the Evolution hubbub. Meanwhile the state congress can't decide o
The Settlement (Score:3, Insightful)
YES!!
Stupid settlement (Score:2)
Next time: AGs, go for the cash if you're going to recover damages done by the industry. Heck, I know I wouldn't want 10 crap CDs that the industry can't sell - why do you think your librarians would want millions of crap CDs that no one wants to hear?
Heck, I like Lou Reed and all, but does every library in Kansas really need 12 copies of his worst album of the mid 1980's?
Re:Stupid settlement (Score:5, Insightful)
So much for 'evening things out'.
bigger problem (Score:5, Insightful)
The record companies settled for millions of dollars. They decided to pay this with CD's. In the deal, the CDs were presumably valued at market price.
Whoa! Hold on, the record companies do not pay anywhere near market value for any of the CDs. They pay for the production costs, which sure a hell ain't $16 a CD; more like $0.50.
So this really wasn't any sort of punishment for the recording industry. More like a lesson that they could do whatever the hell they want and "repay" their debt to society with worthless crap.
Re:bigger problem (Score:3, Funny)
Nah. This whole "dump whatever's collecting mold in the warehouse" thing is just the recording industry execs exercising their right to free speech. It expresses their view that laws and ethics are meant only for for poor people; that consumers are just money cows who's only purpose in life is to be milked; and that
Re:bigger problem (Score:2)
If I had mod points now I would have very much liked t mod you up, but I don't really know what I'd use. Funny might be appropriate, but it's intelligent too, which funny usually precludes (especially since it doesn't give karma anymore).
Why not give money? (Score:2)
Re:Why not give money? (Score:2)
it's NOT censorship (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, most notably this is NOT censorship. It's a reasonable rejection by Kansas of crap foisted onto them in the form of a "settlement". The hubris of the music industry in their passing off inventory as fodder for art as value would be laughable were it not so egregious and offensive.
Here in the state of Washington, the CD's provided were highlighted in the local news with local librarians and school officials beside themselves trying to fathom what they were to do with these CD's.
Hat's off to Kansas for some chutzpah and balls to reject these CD's though the music industry skates on the whole deal anyway.
Most odd to me is the permission to the industry to choose what the form of payment in settlement would be. This is similar and as offensive as the wink and nod to Microsoft to "settle" many of their claims by "contributing" software to schools... at inflated MSRP valuations.
Re:it's NOT censorship (Score:2)
Well, most notably this is NOT censorship. It's a reasonable rejection by Kansas of crap foisted onto them in the form of a "settlement".
Define "crap." Clearly for Kansas, "crap" music means music that doesn't agree with the AG's morals, and has nothing to do with the quality, popularity, or other facets of music that people would normally associate with the "crap" designation for music.
Define "reasonable." If the libraries want to reject material, should they not make that decision, rather than deleg
Re:it's NOT censorship (Score:4, Insightful)
Read the article on CNN again. Specifically, and I quote:
The Kansas AG has specifically targeted a set of 1600 CDs out of the total distribution of 51000 CDs given to the state as part of the settlement.
If the AG wanted to take the stance that the settlement is total bullshit -- which it IS -- he should have sent all 51,000 back to the RIAA and said, "Piss off with your worthless crap."
Instead, by rejecting only 1,600 CDs, he has effectively said, "These 25 different artists are promoting values contrary to those I perceive my constituency to hold, so these 1,600 CDs will not be distributed."
This is horrible on two counts. He's committing blatant censorship, and he's tacitly endorsing the complete crock-of-shit RIAA settlement as acceptable.
p
Not censorship (Score:2)
If you reject that CD, is that censorship?
Now...there is an obvious difference between you rejecting a particular CD, and the state AG doing it.
But not wanting to accept something that is unacceptable is NOT censorship. No one has demanded th
Re:Not censorship (Score:2)
If you answered 'yes', then why is the library making the decision not censorship but the attorney general making the decision is censorship? From reading the article, the Kansas Library Assocation had no problem with the AG's decision, and it sounds like the AG was just doing the same thing that each individual library would have done anyways. So what's the big deal? Might as well expedite the process.
Re:it's NOT censorship (Score:2)
An excerpt from one of these 'terrible' cd's (Rage Against The Machine....... gee, i wonder what 'the machine' is)
Weapons-- not food, not homes, not shoes
Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal
I walk the corner to the rubble that used to be a library
Line up to the mind cemetary now
What we don't know keeps the contracts alive an movin'
They don't gotta burn the books they just rem
Re:it's NOT censorship (Score:2)
Re:it's NOT censorship (Score:3, Informative)
Play it again jack and then rewind the tape
And then play it again and again and again
Until ya mind is locked in
Believin' all the lies that they're tellin' ya
Buyin' all the products that they're sellin' ya
They say jump and ya say how high
Ya brain-dead
Ya gotta fuckin' bullet in ya head
Yes, bullet in the head, it isn't saying go and shoot somebody, its called symbolism... IE, if your a prisoner to the system you might as well have a bullet in your head.
Same wit
Re:it's NOT censorship (Score:2)
I'd be more inclined to agree if he were taking steps to prevent the sale or ownership of these CDs. He's not. He doesn't want them passing through his department.
Frankly, I'm not sure we'll agree on this without some hair-splitting over the definition of censorship. The dictionary says one thing, but the images in people's minds is another. It might, to the letter, fulfill the dictionary term of it, but I'm quite sure people are picturing something far worse.
A couple of logical fallacies... (Score:4, Insightful)
This was very similar to what libraries do all the time.
That doesn't make it right. Societies discriminated against blacks "all the time" too.
They did libraries a big favor by selecting these CDs because there's no way libraries could have said what they wanted.
If there's "no way" that libraries can say what they want, it's a flaw in the organization of the libraries of Kansas, not a license for someone else to dictate their content for them. It seems to me that, having continual contact with the public, libraries are more in touch with what the people really want. Therefore, they should be in charge of stocking themselves.
Re:A couple of logical fallacies... (Score:5, Insightful)
There's nothing to indicate the libraries aren't free to stock these CDs themselves--the AG just decided the state wasn't going to provide them unrequested. This is no more censorship than if a parent decides, "I'm not going to give this CD to my son for his birthday." That doesn't mean the kid can't buy it himself.
Lou Reed, Rage Against The Machine.... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Lou Reed, Rage Against The Machine.... (Score:2)
Re:Lou Reed, Rage Against The Machine.... (Score:2)
On the other hand, my local library retains a copy of "NWA's Greatest Hits."
Doo do do do-dee-do... (Score:2)
The relevant verse goes :
It is, I believe, about Holly Woodlawn, a noted transvestite who appeared in some Andy Warhol films.
The whole song is about gay men going to New York b
WTF is this? a charity shop? (Score:5, Insightful)
Glad I don't live in Kansas (Score:2)
Those who say this isn't censorship are apparently too focused on the ridiculousness of the "settlement" to notice that morality was the reason for rejecting those CDs, not popularity, quality of music, or other aspects that might be relevant to "dumping junk music."
I'm glad I don't live there -- not only does the AG feel the need to be moral daddy, but the libraries think it's appropriate for the AG to do their work for them. Ugh.
Not the first time Kansas AG has acted like this (Score:3, Interesting)
This is not to say a person in Kansas can't go buy the material on their own, it's not censorship in the sense of it not being allowed at all (like say Texas in banning sex toys a few years ago).
Kansas AG is a prime example why some types of people should not be in law enforcement, let alone responsible for enforcement of all laws in a state. If a elected official can not seperate their personal beliefs from his official function as a representative of the government, than they should not be in power (A better example is John Ashcroft).
For a little bit of background, in Kansas, with some exceptions, every statewide office by default goes to a Republican unless that canidate goes outside of a loose centrist feel.
Case in point, Dennis Moore, the only democrat from Kansas in the house, ran against Phil Kline, Alan Taft and a few others since being elected. The only way (and this is a subjective observation) he seems to keep beating the republicans is because the local RNC chapter keeps trotting out hard right wingers like Kline to run against him.
Otherwise in Kansas politics, the republican gets it almost every time (the democrats in the kansas house and senate seem to have less power than the democrats in Texas do, at least down there they have the big red button of denying a quorum if absoulutely needed).
Back to the topic / artical
Other topic, Kansas politics makes for an interesting read on the way the party not in power has to play ball in the midwest. Like the fact that the democrats didn't even field a canidate during the 2002 Senate race. Or the fact that the (late) prior democrat governor (Kim Finney) had several parts of her platform that were planks in the republican party platform (prolife being primary amoung them).
Re:Not the first time Kansas AG has acted like thi (Score:2)
Democrat
Censorship (Score:3, Interesting)
Yes.
More disturbingly, is it censorship if the individual library chooses not to carry the latest beheading video from Iraq?
Yes.
Just like it was discrimination when I decided to start dating a white girl instead of a black girl.
Or a girl who wasn't a serial killer. Just another characteristic. Yup.
Is it less censorship when the individual libraries do it, rather than the AG?
No, it's just as objectionable.
My old city lib
List of banned CDs (Score:5, Informative)
rejected for Kansas public libraries by Attorney General Phill Kline's office:
* Alice In Chains, "Greatest Hits," "Live"
* Big Punisher, "Yeeeah Baby"
* Blink 182, "Cheshire Cat"
* Foxy Brown, "China Doll"
* Concrete Blonde, "Bloodletting," "Classic Masters"
* Cypress Hill, "III," "Live at the Fillmore"
* Da Brat, "Unrestricted"
* Devo, "Pioneers Who Got Scalped"
* Heavy D, "Heavy"
* Jagged Edge, "JE Heartbreak"
* Live, "The Distance to Here"
* Mase, "Harlem World"
* NAS, "It Was Written," "Nastradamas"
* Notorious B.I.G., "Born Again"
* OutKast, "Aquemini," "Stankonia"
* Rage Against the Machine, "Renegades"
* Lou Reed, "Growing Up in Public," "Rock and Roll Heart," "Sally Can't Dance," "Walk on the Wild Side"
* Silver Chair, "Freak Show"
* Soul Asylum, "Candy From a Stranger," "Let Your Dim Light Shine"
* Stone Temple Pilots, "Tiny Lights: Songs From the Vatican Gift Shop"
* Toadies, "Hell Below"
* "Bad Boy Records Greatest Hits"
* The Wu-Tang Clan, "The W"
* Wyclef Jean, "The Carnival"
Re:List of banned CDs (Score:2)
I can understand the reasons that parents wouldn't want their children to listen to a lot of the hip-hop on the list, but that doesn't give the AG the right to impose his set of morals on an entire state. If the parents don't want their kids listening to it, DON'T LET THEM CHECK IT OUT FROM THE LIBRARY! How difficult is that?
p
Re:List of banned CDs (Score:3, Funny)
Re:List of banned CDs (Score:2)
As on offtopic aside, could they possibly have found a worse picture of Lou Reed for that CNN article?!
[TMB]
Re:List of banned CDs (Score:2)
God, if you're going to ban anything, get rid of the insipid boy band tripe corrupting kids today! Get them to learn a decent taste in music!
Re:List of banned CDs (Score:2)
Re:List of banned CDs (Score:2)
From the article: (Score:2)
Why not? Why couldn't the ruling have specified that the libraries could choose what they wanted from the RIAA members' catalogues, instead of the RIAA being given the chance to dump 17,000 unsold copies of 'Willennium' on them? *That* would have been a proper punishment for the RIAA - actually being not only forced to give up stuff of value rather than tat they couldn't shift, but also to have to give it up for people to share...
Wizard of Oz (Score:3, Funny)
Of course, maybe even the AG knows you can hide the truth about Kansas.
Look. Even the people of Topeka http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/state/93055
crap?? (Score:3, Interesting)
I can't believe that this crowd thinks Outkast is crap music. Outkast has many excellent songs, some of which are very political and some of which are about other complex themes. To reject it based on decency grounds is not only censorship, but it's the rejection of the genre as a whole as invalid for public consumption.
How did you nerds feel when a judge ruled that video games are not expressive speech? Don't come back and reject the speech of another genre based on similarly idiotic premises.
Vouchers Anyone? (Score:4, Insightful)
I guess my point is that we all knew that whoever was handling the case must have fscked up somewhere when we found out that they 'won'. If the companies weren't going to play fair, they could have at least tried a little harder to not make it so obvious.
Look at the source of the news article (Score:2)
Redundant like "Microsoft Works" (Score:3, Insightful)
There's a name for that.
It's called "everything the RIAA has rights to".
"Crap" need not ever be explicitly written in such stories. "RIAA" already implies that.
Best way to measure the actual monetary value... (Score:2, Insightful)
No, it's really a good deal (Score:4, Funny)
They merely have to pay $2.79 each for shipping and processing. The selection of the month comes automatically, but the head librarian can return it back to RIAA and they will pay for the shipping.
They even have a full 10 days to try them, and if the State of Kansas is not completely satisfied, they can return all of the cds and have no further obligation.
the "settlement" was a shit-shovelling exercise (Score:3, Interesting)
you want to make settlements count, three words... Cold Hard Cash. get the cash, not the paperwork.
The Settlement was Not Effective (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Censorship (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Censorship (Score:2)
Are you sure? Getting dicked over by the RIAA does not mesh with my values, I bet it doesn't mesh with the values of the majority of any state.
As long as he didn't spell out the specific values they are in conflict with, everyone is free to view the action in whatever way they want. Very much a politician's way of handling things. Perhaps this time such vagueness is actually doing good for the people instead o
Re:Censorship (Score:5, Insightful)
Quit throwing around heavy word when they're not needed. The Kansas AG did not say they were banning any of those CDs. He said they were making sure that the state government was not giving out materials that people might find objectionable. The Kansas Librarians' Association had no objections.
Now, if you can find a link to an article about the Kansas AG forcing a library to remove or not carry certain materials, then come back with the word censorship. Until then, quit screaming about nothing. Otherwise, no one will pay attention when you scream about something important.
Re:Censorship (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Censorship (Score:3, Interesting)
I love hearing all the liberals spout off about how bad Fox news is. What should be done about it, should Fox News be banned because some people think they are biased? Who chooses what news media outlets can exist and what can't? That job would have to be done by someone in the government wouldn't it?
Give me a large number of biased news organizations (current situation, for both sides) any d
Re:Censorship (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Censorship (Score:3, Insightful)
To allow the record companies to dump their junk as a 'settlement' speaks volumes about how corrupt the system has become.
Re:Censorship (Score:2, Insightful)
Spoken like a true censor! I think all material belongs in a library. Especially free material. I don't know what sort of Librarians' Association Kansas has but I think elsewhere in the world they would be tripping over themselves to get that much attractive media into a library for FREE.
She may come in for Outkast but sometimes they walk out with Aldous Huxley as well.
Re:Censorship (Score:3, Informative)
Hardly. I could care less what you listen to or read. If my local library carries copies of "Nazism For Dummies", then good for them. If they want to carry Eminem, good for them.
I think all material belongs in a library.
Have you ever donated materials to your library? I have donated a hundred or so books to my local library. Not all the books I give them end up on the shelves. They pick and choose. Why? Because they have only so much room on the shelves. They hav
Re:Censorship (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh, so if the people running the libraries are just as ass-backwards as the AG, this makes censorship OK?
Just because all the powers that be agree to censorship doesn't make it NOT censorship.
I bet the Kansas Librarians' Association wouldn't put up a fight if the AG decided Darwin's "Origin of Species" was "objectionable," either.
Re:Censorship (Score:3, Informative)
What's so hard about this? He was being selective about the materials that were being supplied to the libraries via the state government. That's it. He wasn't telling them they couldn't carry Outkast. He was simply saying that the state wasn't going to provide it to them. It's not censorship! The libraries can carry Outkast if they want to. No one is being access to the music. Nothing is bein
Re:Censorship (Score:2, Interesting)
A librarian is the custodian of knowledge for the common man. The common man likes things a librarian probably doesn't, but as a professional they will fight for that common man to be able to get the book / cd / information he wants.
librarians aren't into censorship
Re:Censorship (Score:3, Insightful)
There *is*, however, a small mountain of evidence that proves evolution happens and that evolution is a viable means of speciation. There's a lot of really good reading on this topic (with references!) at TalkOrigins [talkorigins.org].
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Re:Censorship (Score:3, Insightful)
That said, anything that can't be disproven is not science. This is where creationism fails. Consider, astronomers have observed events out in space that have occured 12 billion years ago. Really though we don't need the HST to effectively disprove creation. Creationism says the universe is
Re:Censorship (Score:3, Interesting)
Also, though it's true the Bible never gives the age of the universe. However, all the most popular Christian scientists believe in Young Earth creationism. This
Re:Censorship (Score:4, Informative)
I live in Kansas and our library's collection of audio CD's is mostly stuff nobody under 30 would be interested in. Lots of broadway musical scores, classical records that can be bought for $3-$8 in Wal-Mart because they are in Public Domain, ect.
Anyway, there's a small collection of "Pop" music, and I know there's a copy of Slipknot's Iowa in there, and there's some RATM, too. So it's already in circulation in Kansas.
Maybe the collection of discs is mostly unsellable stuff. But the lists of artists being blocked right now sounds a lot more interesting than reports of several thousand CDs of Whitney Housten singing the Star Spangled banner like other states are getting.
It's not the artists' best works, but it sounds like we got some of the better giveaways. I say let them in since we're not getting any choices.
When I first saw the headline about the discs getting rejected, I thought Kline was rejecting the settlement discs because they were tons of crap like the other states had been getting. What a letdown when I read the story.
Re:Censorship (Score:2)
if you block the 1000'th record coming when nobody loans the first 1000 ever then it's hardly censorship.
Re:Censorship (Score:2)
the music is still crap mostly.. the shittier gangsta rap being made just with the hook of singing about killing and dealing(and of all things you wouldn't find in a library). not that surprising when it backfires(mostly gangsta rap isn't about social issues or deep shit like that either, just whoring of big companies putting stuff on cd's that kids want to hear because their parents dont)..
and i don't think they would take in loa
Once againe, Slashdot get's it all wronge (Score:2, Flamebait)
Re:Once againe, Slashdot get's it all wronge (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:AAAAAGHHH! (Score:2)
This is the primary reason the ACLU is above the din when it comes to constitutionally protected liberties (including corporate ones).
This is the organization that sues to allow the KKK to hold rallies, participate in "adopt a highway" programs and other such common sense objectionable
Sort of an embodyment of the "vehemently disagree with what you are saying, but fighting to the death for