South Park Creators Have A New Film 446
Vince C writes "Trey Parker and Matt Stone are back to filmmaking again. No, it is not a South Park movie and no they are not acting. In fact, it is a totally different media... marionettes. Yep! Puppets folks. They are making Team America:World Police. If you liked the original Thunderbirds and hate the live action remake but also love comedy sticking it to our current government then you are going to love Matt and Trey's new project. Trailer and more info at the movie's site."
Southpark is GO! (Score:3, Funny)
fuck this (Score:5, Funny)
Re:fuck this (Score:3, Insightful)
Just saw the preview (Score:5, Interesting)
Guess this explains why they haven't produced a damn south park episode in so long!
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Seems to jive precisely with what I see on South Park, and what I see in the trailer. Some on the right complain about the language and such, but most conservative pundits seem to like the show's message.
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Some counter examples (Score:3, Insightful)
Like that piece of war porn The Jessica Lynch story?
Or how they pulled the Reagans?
Or how dissenting voices regarding the Iraq invasion were barely heard?
Or how a Hollywood star is now the governor of California and a Republican.
Or how media ownership is concentraed into the hands of a few vocal conservatives?
Or how F9/11 got dropped by Disney and was in "can't find a distributator" mode for a while?
Or how every "history" movie (especially WWII) is ahistoric and h
Re:Some counter examples (Score:2, Insightful)
And? What you a sadist and prefer to only see bad shit happening all the time? I can't believe you are expecting any kind of "high art" film when it's in the same group as "Not without my baby", "The Long Island Lolita Story", etc. really you might want to come down to reality with your expectations
>Or how they pulled the Reagans?
Or maybe it was more like, the viewers we get paid to get in don't like to see a guy in late stages of alsheimers kick
Re:Some counter examples (Score:4, Insightful)
Actually, that is what was being said. The whole point of Powell going before the United Nations was to show the world our case for WMD. And he failed.
The world, and much of the U.S., was unconvinced that compelling evidence was there. The non-believers (remember the Freedom Fries?) were mocked. And there was much name-calling about how they were cowardly, or were corrupt and only trying to cover shady deals.
And even now, the administration is making the intelligence community out to be the scapegoats, when so many were not convinced. What does that say about the President's judgement?
Re:Some counter examples (Score:5, Insightful)
Now, speaking about Ann Coulter, she said [nationalreview.com]: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." In the same article she advocates carpetbombing Muslim countries (and thus knowingly killing innocent civilians). And yet she remains a top conservative pundit.
Re:Some counter examples (Score:3, Interesting)
There are arguments to be made against Bush and this one isn't it.
Aren't you smart enough to see that the American people as a whole STILL support the way Bush handled 9/11? And when Kerry himself whines about what Bush did for 300 to 420 seconds, it makes him look like a first class asshole. Er, makes him look like MORE of a 1st class asshole since his going on and on about his 16 weeks in Viet Nam twenty years later when many men who served longer and
Re:Some counter examples (Score:4, Insightful)
Public opinion "pulled" the Reagans off CBS. Viewers of CBS threatened to boycott the network, including it's advertisers, and because CBS's revenue is based on the money it makes from it's advertisers, it felt best to hand it over to Showtime (who's money is made based on subscription rates) where it was shown many times. There is no "conspiracy" here, just the facts of cold, hard cash.
Or how dissenting voices regarding the Iraq invasion were barely heard?
Because "all the people" that mattered were not dissenting, including people like oh.. John Kerry... who was for the war just as much as the President was. However, he heard PLENTY of how dissent from the French and the Germans in this time period.
Or how a Hollywood star is now the governor of California and a Republican.
Not the first, probably won't be the last. However, remember Arnold is married to a Kennedy and is socially liberal while economically conservative. Bush did not support Arnold during his run, and therefore, now, Arnold is not supporting Bush. So, this has less to do with a "ring wind conspiracy" as you would have us believe and more to do with getting Grey Davis out of office for being an idiot.
Or how media ownership is concentraed into the hands of a few vocal conservatives?
I don't know where you get your information. Ted Turner? Hardly a conservative. Yet, he owns several networks. This has nothing to do with politics. Although you conspiracy theorists would like us to believe that "big media" is controlled by the right in order to convince us there isn't a liberal bias in the media (which there is).
Or how F9/11 got dropped by Disney and was in "can't find a distributator" mode for a while?
Again, that's about money... Disney was threatened with a boycott of it's products, and when it came down to the cold, hard cash... they backed away. However, it was the Miramax "brothers" who saved the day and gave us that enlightened film produced by Michael Moore... (yeah, right, enlightened....)
Or how every "history" movie (especially WWII) is ahistoric and highly pro-American. With the exception of Vietnam movies.
Why wouldn't a histoical movie of WWII be highly pro-American? If you remember, the US was attacked without cause on December 7. Not only was the war effort in response to that unprovoked attack, but it was also to remove from power one of history's worst criminal to humanity, Adolf Hitler, who had killed millions of Jews. Now when you consider that the effort the US took both militarily and industrially to pull off such a thing, it should make one sit back and awe at the pure ability of a people to come together for a common goal.
Or how the Pentagon will lend Hollywood any equipment they want but they get to edit the script for right-wing pro-military ahistory "patriotic correctness?"
I'm sorry, but I would not lend Michael Moore by computer to check his webmail if I knew he would then turn it against me somehow because I used Mozilla instead of MSIE. And the Pentagon does not lend, it leases... and 99% of the time it's either footage and not equipment itself.
Or how TV was quick to digitally remove the twin towers from every skyline as not to upset anyone?
Yeah, this was nuts... but it was Hollywood. Again, it's the cold, hard cash that influenced this one.
Or how shows that tackle history in an honest and non-partisan way only exist on PBS?
Considering PBS is, at least partially, federally funded, it's strange you would say "gov't influences history" and then say "except PBS, they're cool". I dunno... seems odd.
Or how Malkin can go on TV and say Kerry shot himself for his medals? Or how Anne Coulter can openly call Liberals treasonous and demand the deaths of muslims and coverting them to Xtianity. Both of whom are still on the pundit short list for other shows.
Wrong about Malkin (Score:5, Informative)
from her site (http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000418.htm)
Here is how I responded verbatim:
"Well yeah. Why don't people ask him more specific questions about the shrapnel in his leg? There are legitimate questions about whether or not it was a self-inflicted wound."
Matthews frantically stuffed words down my mouth when I raised these allegations made in Unfit for Command that Kerry's wounds might have been self-inflicted. In his ill-informed and ideologically warped mind, this transmogrified into me accusing Kerry of "shooting himself on purpose" to get an award.
I repeated that the allegations involved whether the injuries were "self inflicted wounds." I DID NOT SAY HE SHOT HIMSELF ON PURPOSE and Chris Matthews knows it.
Only someone who had not read Unfit for Command would interpret what I was saying the way Matthews did. The book raises questions by vets, many of whom were with Kerry, about whether there was or wasn't enemy fire during the Dec. 1968 incident that led to his first Purple Heart (Patrick Runyon is quoted in a Boston Globe account on p. 35 saying "I can't say for sure that we got return fire or how [Kerry] got nicked. I couldn't say one way or the other. I know he did get nicked, a scrape on the arm.") and whether the injury came from a self-inflicted wound after he caught a tiny piece of shrapnel when he fired a grenade from his M-79 grenade launcher too close (p. 36); whether or not there was "intense rocket and rifle fire" during the Feb. 1969 incident that led to his second Purple Heart (Rocky Hildreth, officer of an accompanying boat on Dam Doi Canal that day, says there was no "intense rocket and rifle fire" on p. 78); and whether the shrapnel wound in his buttocks, which Kerry says he sustained in March 1969 and led to the awarding of his third Purple Heart, was the result of a mine explosion while on a mission or from a wound from his own grenade that he set off too close to a stock of rice he was trying to destroy (p. 87). See also pages 30-31. I was trying to get to these points, but Matthews would not let me finish a sentence.
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Spin Cycle (Score:3, Informative)
You mean how she can go on TV to promote her book [amazon.com], but only if first she'll do a segment talking about the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth [swiftvets.com] ad campaign and the accompanying book Unfit for Command [amazon.com] which includes the idea that two of his Purple Heart injuries were the result of Kerry firing a machine gun and lobbing a grenade at nearby targets, which were so close that he actually caught shrapnel indirectly from his own actions.
You'd nev
What a crock of shit--but it got modded up anyway (Score:4, Insightful)
Or how they pulled the Reagans?
The script for the movie was almost entirely falsified. They portrayed everybody in a negative light and even implied Reagan was completely senile. CBS pulled the show after fan complaints--the government didn't do a thing. CBS could have gone ahead and aired it if they wanted to. Fuck, man, Barabara Streisand's husband was playing Reagan!
Or how dissenting voices regarding the Iraq invasion were barely heard?
This is the most laughable claim in your list. Protesters were "barely heard?" Are you freaking kidding me? Every channel on TV aired protester opinions, all the newspapers--even a feature film "documentary" that made $100 million. There are endless liberal smear books on the market right now. You're completely lying, and you know it.
Or how a Hollywood star is now the governor of California and a Republican.
What this has to do with anything, I have no idea. Just a random jab for no reason.
Or how media ownership is concentraed into the hands of a few vocal conservatives?
Most of the media is liberal, according to all the polls.
Or how F9/11 got dropped by Disney and was in "can't find a distributator" mode for a while?
Yeah, it was dropped LAST YEAR. Moore was told about it way back in 2003. Gee, he brought it up right before Cannes as some sort of conspiracy, I wonder why?
Or how every "history" movie (especially WWII) is ahistoric and highly pro-American. With the exception of Vietnam movies.
Another irrelevant lie. Not every history movie is ahistoric and highly pro-American. Not only have you not viewed every history movie, but I could list endless films that contradict your claim.
Or how the Pentagon will lend Hollywood any equipment they want but they get to edit the script for right-wing pro-military ahistory "patriotic correctness?"
Care to cite a single example for this false claim?
Or how TV was quick to digitally remove the twin towers from every skyline as not to upset anyone?
What the FUCK does this have to do with the left OR the right wing? It was done out of sensitivity for 2,000 people being lost in New York. It's not a right-wing conspiracy to wipe out the twin towers in an episode of Friends. Jesus H. Christ.
Or how shows that tackle history in an honest and non-partisan way only exist on PBS?
"Honest and non-partisan way" = liberal or anti-American. PBS is well-known as a liberal station. You just demonstrated your bias, lol.
Or how Malkin can go on TV and say Kerry shot himself for his medals?
She didn't. Another complete lie. This is why liberals are frowned upon by the majority of the folks. It's not about issues anymore, it's about personal vitriol toward people you actually HATE because you disagree with them.
Or how Anne Coulter can openly call Liberals treasonous and demand the deaths of muslims and coverting them to Xtianity.
Yet another complete lie. Care to cite a single quote or example?
Or how only a satiric comedy show (the Daily Show) can actually break and frame issues in a manner which isn't corporate media ass-kissing?
Funny, since Comedy Central ran ads for Fahrenheit 9/11 an average of EVERY FIVE COMMERCIALS. John Stewart and Stephen Colbare are--you guessed it--self-proclaimed Democrats.
As a matter of fact, before every taping (as well as in interviews), Stewart always expresses his surprise that people view the Daily Show as a non-biased source of news analysis. It is not.
Yeah, its pretty PC lefty out there!
Hollywood is liberal. This is common knowledge. A journalism poll showed that the majority of journalists are liberal.
You many know some liberals in the industry, bu
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You might wanna check your facts.... (Score:3, Informative)
I saw an interview with Matt where he professed his Republicanism, and here [lp.org] is an article about Trey Parker's letter writing campaign and endorsements of Libertarian candidates.
Oh and their appearence in Bowling for Columbine? One thing about Michael Moore, if you agree with his views or not, is that he is extremely deceptive with his filmmaking. They didn't make the "History of the USA" cartoon that is in the movie. Michael Moore wrote the c
libertarians? (Score:5, Insightful)
Both are now multi-millonaires with very little in common with you and me. If they have a philosophy its contrarianism and vulger/shock humor. To hold them up to anything else is being a bit pretentious about their work, which is as anti-pretentious as it gets.
Re:libertarians? (Score:3, Interesting)
As Rembrandt's Nightwatch (Nachtwacht) was showing how people were living at that time ; Southpark is giving a very good contemporary look at today's society.
I'm not saying that a piece of art like the Nachtwacht is on the same levels as Southpark ; but merely the uses and effects of different forms of art , made knowingly , -or- unknowingly so by the creators.
Re:Just saw the preview (Score:2)
Old people should not be able to drive if they are a risk. This is both liberal and non-libertarian.
South Park shows that America was founded on hypocrisy. The conservative ideal is that America was founded perfect and the founding fathers are infallible. The US is also regul
Re:Just saw the preview (Score:4, Interesting)
However, if you pay close attention, despite South Park episodes happily making fun of both sides of an issue, they often end up agreeing with the more conservative side (think Libertarian-conservative, not necessarily Republican-conservative).
Take the Cripple Fight episode (the one where Big Gay Al gets kicked out of Boy Scouts for being gay). While the episode relentlessly makes fun of those who would keep gay people out of Boy Scouts, in the end, Big Gay Al himself proclaims that as a private organization, Boy Scouts has a right to not hire him because of his sexual orientation.
And then there's the Underpants Gnomes episode (with the Starbucks knockoff) you mention, which ends up giving us the message that big businesses are successful because of smart business practices and because they serve consumers better than little businesses, and it's thus okay when they trample little businesses that can't compete.
Re:Just saw the preview (Score:4, Insightful)
The idea of trying to stick Trey and Matt into some political category is ridiculous. They make fun of everything and clearly show that they don't find anything beyond reproach. That's why many of us love their comedy, not because we think they agree with our particular political bias.
The only problem is that morons like you come along and "see" that Matt and Trey are really making some moral statement that reinforces your own biases. I mean, if you can watch the Underpants Gnomes episode and read into it a pro big business message, you are using some concentrated crack. Who knows if Matt and Trey feel that way and who cares if they do, but they sure didn't stick the message into the episode to teach you that lesson.
Re:Just saw the preview (Score:3, Insightful)
Then why do you care so much if he is interpreting those episodes that way ?
As with all forms of 'art' : It's in the eye of the beholder.
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Why? Lawyer-bashing is pretty much a bi-partisan sport. Liberals tend to criticize corporate attorneys and prosecutors, while conservatives hate ACLU lawyers and anyone who uses an insanity defense.
Re:Just saw the preview (Score:2, Interesting)
Basically libertarians have to choose whether they care more about social issues (then vote democrat) or economic issues (then vote republican). Or throw your vote away (vote libertarian).
I used conservative/libertarian interchangable when talking about hollywood because everything is pretty much straight up liberal/socialist coming out of that neck of the woods.
Re:Just saw the preview (Score:4, Insightful)
Give me a break, For every Michael Moore there's a thousand flag-waving "My Country Right or Wrong" types making stuff like Pearl Harbor, We Were Soldiers, etc ad nauseaum.
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Throw away your vote? (Score:5, Insightful)
A vote is only thrown away when you don't vote.
Vote against your principles only if you think voting for your principles would result in some catastrophic intrusion in your life, but I don't think Bush vs Gore was such an event, nor do I think Bush vs Kerry is also such an event.
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Max
MOD PARENT UP (Score:2)
Re:Just saw the preview (Score:3, Funny)
I always thought we had only ONE.
Wow, you mean we have a choice?
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Re:Mods? (Score:2)
Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:5, Informative)
No, really [haifa.ac.il] (this is just one reference; Google finds many more).
Re:Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:2, Troll)
Yeah, I'd imagine those who are responsible on making sure no new terror attacks happen, are a bit touchy on the subject.
I can hardly wait for the responses from cancer ward patients when the next movie makes fun of cancer. Those guys need to lighten up!
Re:Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:2)
Re:Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:2)
I'm explaining why someone might be pissed about the movie. Maybe you're responding to someone else's post?
Re:Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:5, Insightful)
In my opinion humor is a valid medium to communicate social or political messages and opinions and I don't think it should be directly or indirectly censured. When we look back in history we can see that comedy as been continuously used in literature and on stage to denounce injustices or promote new ideas and event start revolutions.
Re:Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:2, Offtopic)
I'd be a bit more sympathetic if I thought the Bush administration actually gave a crap about anything other than getting re-elected and cutting taxes. I really do care about the War On Terror, which is why I'm not voting for Bush. (Of course, I'd feel better if Kerry showed some sign of caring too, but at least I don't think he'll go out of his way to start yet another war just for t
Re:Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:2, Insightful)
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But I suppose that's why you're modded as flamebait...
Re:Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:2)
How do you get that from what 'thegnat' posted?
Re:Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:2)
"(Of course, I'd feel better if Kerry showed some sign of caring too, but at least I don't think he'll go out of his way to start yet another war just for the hell of it.)"
Main Entry: warmonger
Pronunciation: 'wor-"m&[ng]-g&r, -"mä[ng]-
Function: noun
: one who urges or attempts to stir up war : JINGO
Re:Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:2)
Bush is wasting literally hundreds of billions of dollars on actions that are not only not addressing why terrorists are attacking us but are making us more vunerable in the process.
Kerry has shown little inclination of moving where we need to go, but at least he won't sink us that much further in debt while greasing the wheels toward further tragedy the way Bush/Cheny are.
It wouldn't surprise me i
Re:Labelled already as liberal traitors (Score:5, Insightful)
Is it? Who cares? There are plenty of idiots to fill their places. Certainly more than 3 years ago.
one major terrorist state has been liberated
Mission accomplished, eh? Not exactly the impression you get watching the news.
and either Syria or Iran will also fall if Bush gets the second term
They will "fall"? What's entailed by that? Nation-wide anarchy? Terrorism? Tens of thousands killed by weaponry, hundreds of thousands starved to death? Proliferation of arms that were previously in the hands of the respective government? Sounds great.
Their response (Score:2, Informative)
Stick it to the current government? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Stick it to the current government? (Score:5, Informative)
<obvious cheap shot that I feel compelled to take(of course using lame psuedo-html to denote)>
Of course, the character might have seemed pretty intelligent compared to the original.
</obvious cheap shot that I feel compelled to take(of course using lame psuedo-html to denote)>
Bush isn't even in the film (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Stick it to the current government? (Score:2, Insightful)
Dude, look at the title of the film... The whole damned movie is aimed at making fun of that idiot's foreign policies...
I just don't understand... (Score:4, Insightful)
Guest Stars?! (Score:4, Funny)
Free Related Link... No, uh, strings attached!!! [puppetuniverse.com]
Huh? (Score:3, Insightful)
How exactly is this news for nerds? Yeah, I'm looking forward to the movie, but I'm not looking for information about it on slashdot.
Re:Huh? (Score:2)
All nerds are teenage boys who live in their mom's basement.
All teenage boys who live in their mom's basement love South Park.
Ergo, news about a movie from the makers of South Park = news for nerds. QED
Re:Huh? (Score:2, Interesting)
No more open source/*nix news pls.
The best thing (Score:3, Insightful)
And that's really the way it should be, because both "sides" in politics are, for the most part, composed of reasonable people, the problem is the people to the extremes of both sides.
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Re:The best thing (Score:2, Funny)
You got the brain implant too eh?
Re:The worst thing, in my view... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:The worst thing, in my view... (Score:2)
2. Because they like to view themselves as social/political commentators, and that's what social/political commentators do. Which is my point, if they don't have a message, then they're just some slapstick comedians and should just stop trying to make social/political satires.
3. See 2.
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Bipartisan Bashing... (Score:5, Interesting)
Marionette puppets are used throughout the film to mock terror threats, and media figures who dominate the nation's airwaves. But Parker and Stone save most of the mocking for left-wing pundits and Michael Moore.
"Bush is not even in the film," Parker said Sunday night from Los Angeles during the DRUDGE REPORT radio broadcast.
"I would ask that people wait and see it, before passing a judgement."
Re:Bipartisan Bashing... (Score:2)
What started all this "movie will be bashing Bush" crap was people who had an early shot of some guy in the movie and ASS-umed that it was supposed to be Bush.
Ah, finally... (Score:5, Funny)
No Thunderbirds required... (Score:2)
Hah.. (Score:2, Informative)
ThunderBIRDS? (Score:5, Funny)
I mean, besides the obvious fact that Thundercats was a cooler show, cats kill birds, it's a fact of nature. Plus, you know, there's Cheetara.
How's your news (Score:4, Interesting)
Marionets are NOT Puppets (Score:5, Informative)
Hybrids of those are possible of course, and they exist too -- Muppets. They got both someone pulling their strings AND someone's hand up their ehrm... back. What a way to make a living.
Re:Marionets are NOT Puppets (Score:4, Funny)
Being Matt Stone and Trey Parker (Score:3, Funny)
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"Our" current government? (Score:5, Funny)
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How original! (Score:3, Insightful)
(sarcasm, of course.)
Truly, could anything be more formulaic than a punkish slam at out Government? I don't care what you think of "our government" -- there is no lack in this overrun category. In web terms, a plot line attacking GWB is like a website in 1998 having "Pamela Anderson" in the META tags. Lame.
Cannibal! The Musical (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Why not (Score:5, Interesting)
"sticking it to the current government" (Score:3, Informative)
Trey and Matt are libertarians who despise both Republicans and Democrats (and rightly so).
Re:You say... (Score:2, Insightful)
I think you answered your own question. One of the main things the American third parties accomplish at this point is to provide a viewpoint apart from the kneejerk opposite reaction that will be found in the other second party. Much of the party platform of both Republicans and Democrats
Re:You say... (Score:5, Insightful)
So instead we're supposed to engage in groupthink, join the Borg, and "be one" with one of the two major parties - despite the fact that we disagree with both of them on a number of fundamental issues?
Nice attitude, that.
Max
Re:Memo to all movie websites (Score:3, Funny)
Join us in the 21st century.
Re:Memo to all movie websites (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Memo to all movie websites (Score:5, Funny)
What do you mean, text and pictures? God didn't intend there to be no pictures on the net.
Now go and download yourself a copy of Lynx or STFU.
Re:worrisome (Score:4, Informative)
Not a flamebait in the least, I am not pro anyone. However, it appears that some moderators are paranoid about these particular truths; I don't blame them.
How about this for an example:
Two individuals wore anti-Bush T-shirts on the president's July 4 rally. The pair were taken from the event in restaints after revealing T-shirts with Bush's name crossed out on the front and the words "Love America, Hate Bush" on the back. They were restained, publically humiliated and charged with trespassing (charges later dropped).
Wow, not unlike something the Russian politburo would have done in the 70's or 80's, hmm?
How's that for freedom of speech.
Re:worrisome (Score:3, Informative)
Re:worrisome (Score:3, Insightful)
Poor Georgie, he might find out that people don't like him!
Re:worrisome (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I don't feel like installing flash... (Score:5, Informative)
http://movies.apple.com/movies/paramount/team_ame
Re:I don't feel like installing flash... (Score:3, Informative)
If you open up the normal
The filename being the same as the normal
Usually it's just blah_m480.mov which "blah_480.mov" "links" to.
Unfortuantly, I can't get mplayer to play the audio with that, but quicktime alternative/mediaplayerclassic in windows plays it ok.
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Re:how is apple supporting the open source communi (Score:2)
Seems to me that you should be blaming the film makers, not Apple, but you could look here [infoanarchy.org] to start with.
Re:Lemmiwinks (Score:2)
What's more likely is that the show never finished production before the first half of the new season finished, pushing it up until the second half starts in October.
Re:This isn't new... or funny (Score:5, Insightful)