Steel Bolt Hacking 448
Steel Bolt Hacking | |
author | Douglas Chick |
pages | 114 |
publisher | TheNetworkAdministrator.com |
rating | 8 out of 10 |
reviewer | Alec Kryten |
ISBN | 0974463019 |
summary | How to pick locks, crack combinations for LP sports groups |
The beginning of the book discusses the origins of lock-picking sporting groups, crews in the U.S and Europe, competition around the country, and how to become a part of a lock-picking group. One of the groups out of Colorado Springs, DC719, are a bunch of computer geeks that have taken up the art of lock picking and sponsor a lock-picking contest every year at DefCon. According to Mr. Chick, computer people are the fastest group to pick up the art of lock picking. (I must warn you though, there are also a lot of disclaimers about the author not being responsible for the misuses of the information contained in this book.)
The book is fully illustrated with pictures of different types of lock picking instruments, tools to make your own picks as well as padlocks, deadbolt, and combination locks. There are pictures of locks that have been cut open and even how to crack push-button combination locks. (You know, the kind you find on the door to a server room.) I have to say, for a little book, (114 pages) it is brimming with valuable information for a beginner. What I didn't realize was that software isn't the only thing that has security vulnerabilities; mechanical things like padlocks and deadbolts do as well. What was scary to learn is how easy cheap locks can be picked, and that 80 percent of all locks used are cheap locks. Expensive locks are just likely to take a little longer.
I liked that the book didn't exaggerate. It didn't tell me that I was going to be a master lock picker after only a few tries. It took a little time, practice and sore fingers, but after a couple weeks of practice, I could pick every lock in my house. And as a computer person, I liked all of the jargon that was used to explain locksmith techniques. There was also enough humor to keep the book interesting; it's difficult to read any type of textbook and still maintain a reasonable interest. The illustrations are good and there is a resource section to purchase the tools you need from the Internet.
What I didn't like about the book: The most annoying point, I felt, is the considerable redundancy in methods between different types of locks to be picked. Also, the book suggests that there might be a lock-picking group in every city in the U.S., when in fact I am having a difficult time finding one in my are. And I live near D.C. -- You'd think there would be one on every corner around here. I think that the sport is still in its infancy and Mr. Chick is hoping his book will draw more people to it. The author put his e-mail address on the back of the book. He hasn't responded to my e-mail yet, but I suppose that he's probably a busy man.
All in all, I found the book informative, entertaining and worth the purchase price of 19.99.
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Lock Picking For fun and Profit??? (Score:5, Interesting)
Some other interesting discussion [google.com]. Small wonder I scarcely let my racing bike out of my sight.
"may I borrow your pen? I need to pick up some transportation."
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Lock Picking For fun and Profit??? (Score:5, Interesting)
In case the videos get
Holy Crap (Score:5, Interesting)
Basically, you have to shake the lock at the same time that you're turning the pen.
My guess is that shaking and wiggling the pen causes the interface between the pins & spacers to move around, and if you're turning the pen at the same time, the cylinder will rotate a notch as soon as the interface between the leading pin/spacer pair is in the right place. Then you just repeat the same procedure for all the other pin/spacer pairs.
Actually as near as I can tell (Score:3)
I work for a bike parts/accessories wholesaler... (Score:5, Interesting)
Generally, folks buying locks know that it's just a deterrent... except for the people buying exactly the retails-at-$80 lock (with heavy-duty chain) shown in the movie, who tend to be messengers and/or people with $1k+ bicycles. Personally, my bikes stay locked up in my living room when I'm not on them, and I don't take my lock with me when I seriously ride because that would tempt me to separate myself from the bike. I've got a cheap old schwinn cruiser for that. (=
Re:I work for a bike parts/accessories wholesaler. (Score:5, Interesting)
I will never buy another lock, ever. I only trust my good bike ( A Trek Project One 5500/5600 (the OCLV 110 from a year or two ago) with campy record) to be within reach. My junker is a 1960s Schwin that cost about $60 and is in 4 colors of cheap spray paint. I just tie it in place with a double figure-eight knot
-WS
Re:Lock Picking For fun and Profit??? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Lock Picking For fun and Profit??? (Score:3, Interesting)
Kryptonite response: Rebate or replacement (Score:3, Informative)
Relevant paragraphs for the lazy:
Re:Off to the pop machine... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Off to the pop machine... (Score:3, Interesting)
i don't know much about lock picking, but some posters there basically speculate that most circular locks are somewhat succeptable to this kind of picking and the krpytonite happened to be especially unlucky due to the diameter of the barrel and pressure needed to compress the springs of the teeth mechanisms inside.
the bic pen happened to hit the spot, being the proper diameter and the proper softness, co
A valuable skill (Score:5, Interesting)
Erick
Re:A valuable skill (Score:2, Interesting)
Just so you know, you don't have to be a 'suspect'. Owning of lockpicks is illegal. Pure and simple. I guess only terrorists use them or something.
Re:A valuable skill (Score:2)
are locksmiths also banned from lockpicks?
Re:A valuable skill (Score:2, Informative)
Basically, if the police want an excuse to harass you, they have one. If you stay out of their way, and don't mak
Re:A valuable skill (Score:3, Insightful)
They could still make your life a living hell just by trying to prove it, though, so your harassment statement stands. Eep!
Re:A valuable skill (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:A valuable skill (Score:3, Funny)
Pencils can be used as a weapon, and crayons are fire accelerants.
hmm. I guess we should just abandon this whole civilization thing.
Re:A valuable skill (Score:2, Insightful)
Yeah, that's why I try not to buy books like this one over the internet... nor use my credit card / B&N "member" card when buying it in person.
Re:A valuable skill (Score:3, Funny)
Re:A valuable skill (Score:5, Informative)
Re:A valuable skill (Score:4, Informative)
Lock Hacking in Hackers (Score:5, Interesting)
Surely you must be joking Mr Feynman (Score:5, Interesting)
Everyone in the room goes "Ooooo! how did you do that? Are you really that good?" And he had the presence of mind to say, "Yes." =)
Re:Surely you must be joking Mr Feynman (Score:2)
Ah yes, it didn't take long to get the Feynman reference into this discussion. How I love /.!
Re:Surely you must be joking Mr Feynman (Score:3, Informative)
Feynman is my favorite wise-cracking, lock-hacking, bongo-playing, skirt-chasing Nobel physicist!
Re:Surely you must be joking Mr Feynman (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Surely you must be joking Mr Feynman (Score:5, Interesting)
In one, Feynman had learned a technique to pick up the last number or two of the three-number combination from open file cabinets, and he also learned that one only had to be accurate to about +/- 3 on the dial. This allowed him to drastically reduce the number of guesses needed for a lock.
He was telling a colleague about this, and they ducked into an office so he could demonstrate. Feynman already knew the last number for this particular lock, so he was saying something like... "so I can try out the numbers really quickly. Let's assume the first number is this [sets dial] and I'll check the second number like this..." and the lock opens almost immediately. He thinks fast and continues without pause "... and that's how it's done!" And they walk out, leaving everyone in the office gaping in shock. It was a lucky guess ont he first two numbers, but he didn't let on.
In the other story, the Boss had a BIG safe installed, and after Manhattan was closing down they needed to get into it. People asked Feynman to try it, because of his reputation, and he said he would. (How could he refuse without destroying his rep?) He goes into the office, and it's open. Feynman eventually finds out (after many amusing diversions) that the base locksmith had opened it by trying the factory combination.
Re:Surely you must be joking Mr Feynman (Score:5, Interesting)
She also said that he said General Groves was a real bastard.
Re:Lock Hacking in Hackers (Score:2)
Hackers is a great book. I've read it a couple times, and I wish I knew whathappened to my copy. You'd think, since I run a used bookstore, that someone would have brought a copy in, but no...
A humorous note, my wife's ex-husband ate his blatties.
Noticed the trend as well (Score:5, Funny)
One guy picked the lock on a projector and cabled another person to the projector cart
Re:Noticed the trend as well (Score:2, Funny)
lockpicking skill and an interest in computers, not so much.
Re:Noticed the trend as well (Score:3, Informative)
An interesting side effect, I'm sure one that goes with just about any skill most people don't have, is the number of times you see people in movies doing it absolutely wrong.
Re:Noticed the trend as well (Score:5, Informative)
Boy is this true. Having worked with card-access systems for 5 years, I always chuckle at the way movie characters get past these things, and not trip any alarms in the process.
Just some notes for those people contemplating getting past a card reader.
Re:Noticed the trend as well (Score:3, Interesting)
Classic blunder from "War Games": Joshua trying to crack the nuclear missile launch codes and locking in digits of the code. "He's got four numbers. Another 5 minutes and he'll have all of them!" This is a security system, not MasterMind(tm).
Be patient... (Score:4, Funny)
No, he just lost his password for checking his email.
fun links about lock vulnerabily (Score:3, Informative)
quicktime movie [thirdrate.com] of the same.
Legal issues (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Legal issues (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Legal issues (Score:5, Insightful)
Sigh. How far from cyberpunk dystopia are we now?
Re:Legal issues (Score:2)
Re:Legal issues (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Legal issues (Score:5, Interesting)
Yes, this became true in CA a few years ago as well. This seems sort of ridiculous to me...how can they outlaw lockpicks? They're just tools--it's like outlawing crowbars because they're afraid someone will use them for evil.
Anyway, in most states that have outlawed them, you can still get your hands on them by simply registering and passing the test to become a "licensed locksmith". This doesn't necessarily mean you have to hold yourself out as a business, either. It just means you passed some test and registered with the state so you can carry around your lockpick set. I've been thinking about doing this off and on, because in college I lived with a guy from Caltech for a summer, so I of course had a window into lockpicking as a result and it caught my interest.
Odd Texas law (Score:3, Interesting)
Specifically, you cannot carry wire cutters in your back pocket.
The law dates back to the conflicts between ranchers and farmers near the time of Texas independence. Back then, much of the land was not fenced in, so cattle herders would move their herd around, grazing. Needless to say, the farmers didn't care for that, so they put up barb wire around their lands.
Incidentally, this is a case of technology exciting a reaction: previously, farmers would've been forced to build a wooden or stone fence, and
Re:Legal issues (Score:2)
LK
Re:Legal issues (Score:3, Funny)
Who can beat this?!!! (Score:3, Funny)
It was on a removable HD tray that jammed, but the story's better when I leave that part out.
You believe me, right? I posted it on slashdot!
Re:Who can beat this?!!! (Score:2)
Now, those of you who have read a few of my posts may recall that I do a lot of work on cars. So, out to the car park, into the boot of my car, and out with the angle grinder. It *did* take a long time to cut t
So what locks ARE good?!? (Score:5, Interesting)
So does this book have any recommendations along those lines? What door locks, deadbolts, padlocks, bike locks, etc, follow the locksmith version of "best security practices"?
That, IMHO, is the REALLY important thing to discuss!
Re:So what locks ARE good?!? (Score:3, Informative)
It seems that people in the hobby are reluctant to endorse brands. I saw Barry "The Key" Wels at HOPE this year. His presentation involved the pricey (and supposedly uber-secure) Medico locks and another brand of expensive lock that he agreed with the manufacturer to keep the brand name hidden during his talk.
When his talk shifted
the primary value (Score:2)
Re:So what locks ARE good?!? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:So what locks ARE good?!? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:So what locks ARE good?!? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:So what locks ARE good?!? (Score:3, Informative)
The first thing to do is to replace that with a reinforced strike plate anchored with long screws. The Mag 3 has a full bucket to enclose the bolt and transfer load to the rest of the strike plate, which has four screw holes. Use 3" long #10 wood screws (drill a pilot hole first) and you're solidly anchored to the studs.
Then thin
Porsche cars not easy to steal (Score:3, Interesting)
In terms of hotwiring or other methods of driving away with a stolen car, Porsches are impossible to steal. They've got factory-installed burglar alarms that are engaged every time you lock the doors. The engine will not start until the alarm is properly disengaged. Someone MIGHT be able to spoof the electronic radio signal that disables the alarm. But then you've got a special key with a computer chip that the car checks before starting the engine. In the end, the best way to steal a porsche is with a fla
practice? (Score:2, Funny)
Article at Howstuffworks.com (Score:5, Informative)
It offers a great introduction to lock picking, and has some nice graphics that really helped me understand how locks work, and how they can be circumvented. If you really get into it, then I'm sure this book would offer a lot more information to help you along.
I see your karma whoring, and raise you... (Score:3, Funny)
There's actually two sides to it... (Score:5, Interesting)
There's a much larger number of locks that I can't get into without making it patently obvious somebody broke in. This is something I haven't been as successful in teaching myself.
The former is engineering. The latter, that's art.
-JDF
Re:There's actually two sides to it... (Score:5, Informative)
And never forget the value of the handy old credit card. A friend and I got started in lockpicking with some sets we got off ebay back in middle school, and by the end of high school were quite profficient.
But I've found now that just about any locked door that doesn't use a deadbolt can be opened much faster with a credit card. I keep three of varying thickness in my wallet depending on the situation. I use my ID badge at work to get into the conference rooms because it's quicker than pressing in the door code.
Also, two butter knives work pretty well too if you have a reasonable gap between the door and frame, just alternate force on them to "walk" the latch out. Best part is, you haven't touched the door handle at all, so it's about as non-invasive as you can get
As with computers... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:As with computers... (Score:3, Informative)
Lock picking for fun and profit (Score:4, Interesting)
Same thing, only with combo lock... (Score:3, Funny)
Well, he did. The only thing is it wasn't a Master lock but some crap no-name lock made in Taiwan or someplace. The Master method didn't work on it but I decided to see if I could do it by touch (never tried before).
Two minu
Wait... (Score:4, Funny)
This is nothing new (Score:2, Insightful)
Ultimately everything is hackable, hard and software, by those who have too much time and a little knowhow.
It just sure is nice to be one of those people.
Here's where you get the metal for lockpicks, free (Score:5, Informative)
Wait until the streep sweeper comes by and follow it down the street. The bristles are spring steel that is perfect for lock picks. They fall off, just pick them up off the street.
I've never made a set of picks so I don't know if this is true or not, but there was a decent lock picking culture at MIT in the late 70s.
Re:Here's where you get the metal for lockpicks, f (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Here's where you get the metal for lockpicks, f (Score:5, Interesting)
Then just find a decent pick you want to copy, and sit down at the grinder with your blank bristle. They've still got grinders in my old dorm and the lockpicking culture is indeed alive and well at MIT.
Richard Feynman was a Stell Bold Hacker (Score:3, Insightful)
It's a good quick ready and talks about his lock picking and safe cracking while working on the Manhattan projcet at Los Alamos.
Or read about it here [caltech.edu]
Nothing's unpickable - how big a mess do you want? (Score:5, Interesting)
Brass is primarily a copper alloy. It is extremely reactive in the presence of strong acids. A few years back, a friend of mine wanted to look at a smart card under a microscope - just curious, that's all. I was working in a research lab then, and I mixed hydrochloric acid with nitric acid to make aqua regia. We were able to dissolve the GOLD contacts off the smart card to expose the chip underneath. (Aqua regia is used for lot assay analysis of alloys to determine alloy composition - you start by dissolving the metal, then feed it through some form of spectroscopy machine to measure the quantity and the composition of the metal). If I had squirted that into the door lock and held it in place with some bubble gum
- SK
Re:Nothing's unpickable - how big a mess do you wa (Score:2)
Re:Nothing's unpickable - how big a mess do you wa (Score:5, Interesting)
However, that makes lots of noise. It's hard to protect an office building from a bulldozer attack, but then again, it's pretty hard to sneak around with a bulldozer.
Really an attack involving strong acids isn't much more practical. Not many thieves want to walk around with a bottle of highly concentrated HCL hidden in their pocket. (think spillage while trying to run from the police)
Your best bet in any physical security is to try and make the thief do one or more of the following:
1) make a lot of noise (defeating stealth)
2) leave a lot of good evidence about the intrusion (defeating anonymity)
3) use specialized or expensive tools (defeating any financial gain)
4) use a tool too unwieldy or impractical to transport inconspicuously. (defeating stealth)
Of course, scale the measures to fit the value of what you're hiding.
Sometimes thinking outside the box helps. (Score:3, Insightful)
When my father died, he left some important papers in a locked drawer in his file cabinet. The key was nowhere to be found. But the drawer above it had no lock. I just removed that one.
Older Steelcase desks with a center drawer actuated locking mechanism could be opened (well, except for the center drawer itself) by just reaching behind that drawer and lifting up the lever that locked all the others.
MIT Guide to Lockpicking (Score:5, Informative)
Re:MIT Guide to Lockpicking (Score:2)
Well, I suppose I would also wish for to be locked out with my laptop.
Oh, and be in WiFi range.
Or at least have this book handy.
Well, since I'm wishing, I suppose I could wish to not get locked out, too.
Re:MIT Guide to Lockpicking (Score:4, Interesting)
Lockpicking was standard teaching for freshman the East Campus dorm at MIT. This guide has served as the standard since around 1991 iirc. During the yearly EC "Oddball Olympics" lockpicking was one of the main events. I remember a masterlock being picked in 9 seconds. Really, masterlock padlocks can be that easy. And I've seen master hackers (roof and tunnel in this case) spend an hour and a half on a Schlage and never get it.
This is a great guide and a good place to start, but lockpicking is all about feel. Like anything else, it just takes practice to get good.
Your nearest lock picking group... (Score:3, Funny)
The Club!!!! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:The Club!!!! (Score:2)
Bear starts chasing two men in the woods.
One guy stops and puts on his tennis shoes.
Other guy yells "what are you doing those shoes
won't make you faster than the bear!"
First guy replies "I don't have to be faster than the bear just faster than you."
here be the pdf (Score:2, Informative)
Funky-type pdf
http://www.lysator.liu.se/mit-guide/MITLock Guide.pdf
~!-xor
http://www.lysator.liu.se/m it-guide/MITLockGuide.ps
:.
Those links to the PDF don't work... (Score:2)
Other lock-picking resources. (Score:5, Informative)
Second - as another poster noted, lock pins aren't typically made from high-strength alloys. A battery-powered hand drill (and a screwdriver to turn the lock when the pins are gone) is the best and fastest lock pick that there is. Didn't even leave any visible damage when I used this approach on a filing cabinet we'd lost the key to. Just pick a bit as wide as the key entryway, and drill down the line of pins.
Be advised that the lock tends to jam after closing again, as the remains of the pins fall back into their channels when the lock returns to its original position. But if you're drilling a lock, you're typically looking for a one-time solution anyways.
NOT available at B&N (Score:3, Informative)
Testing claims yourself... (Score:5, Interesting)
I just find lockpicking facinating because it's yet another case of people proving manufacturers claims are often highly exadurated, or just full of BS. Knowing, and proving for yourself what makes a good lock vs. a bad lock fits well into the computer security dynamic (Physical security anyone?). That extra $1-2 for a master brand lock can buy you several minutes more security vs. a cheap look alike that can be shimmed in about 3 seconds, kind of useful to know. They can both be opened, but your less likely to have a thief willing to be exposed for several minutes than for a few seconds. The Kyptonite vulnerability now makes everyone re-think trusting the manufactureres claims now does'nt it?
It's also a handy skill for those inevitable times when someone locks the server cabinet and loses the key and you don't want to pay a locksmith through the nose. I also use my skill in security audits to very dramatically show how little security that cheap lock on ther server room provides.
I've got some descriptions of the contests and LP resources up at my site [renderlab.net] and some links to videos and the MIT guide if anyones curious.
Just remember that there is little a set of bolt cutters, a crow bar, or a sledge hammer can't get through. Lockpicking is the 'elegant solution' to that (literal) brute force.
Go magnetic (Score:3, Interesting)
I learned lockpicking as a child (Score:5, Interesting)
I first learned to pick locks at my childhood church, from my dad. The locks were standard household style locks, on doors that opened outward, so all I needed was a pocketknife.
During High School, I could often be found inside the locked classroom, waiting for the teacher to arrive. I knew which doors opened using which methods, and which windows were nearly impossible to lock properly.
I've learned a few things about physical security over the years. Walls don't always go to the true ceiling. Locks don't always work as advertised. The unknowledgeable don't always understand the proper ways to secure things, and a disgruntled soon to be ex-employee will occasionally just hand you a key you shouldn't have.
With my knowledge of computers, I make it clear that I look the other way when people are typing in their passwords on a PC I'm working on. I want it to be clear to them that I don't know their password. If I want to gain access to a PC, I don't need to know the password before I start anyway.
People come to me when they need to gain access to something they've locked themselves out of on their computer. They have confidence that i can help them. Quite often, I can. A little research, a little knowledge, and the ability to solve problems tends to do the trick.
I've never studied lockpicking. I've never needed to. Locks are usually either very easy to go through, or around. Around is usually the best way.
These days, it's all white-hat. That makes it even more fun.
Re:I learned lockpicking as a child (Score:5, Interesting)
"There is no spoon"
Feynman (Score:3, Interesting)
In addition to winning the Nobel Prize, Feynman spent much of WWII at Los Alamos working on the atomic bomb. He devotes part of this book to his work there, including his (usually succesful) attempts to crack the many safes & locked file cabinets found at the base. He was very much a computer hacker in the days before computers.
Legal Issue!! If you own lockpicks, please READ! (Score:4, Informative)
HOWEVER!!
IF YOU ARE ARRESTED FOR -ANY- CRIME, POSSESSION OF LOCKPICKS WILL CAUSE YOU TO ALSO BE CHARGED WITH POSSESSION OF 'BURGLERY TOOLS'! This could even include a speeding ticket if the Officer decides to search you. So if you are going to carry lockpicks on your person, BE CAREFUL!
Make it easy, why don't you? (Score:5, Funny)
I recalled seeing a bathroom on the floor and when I got there, I was confronted with a pushbutton lock.
The pushbuttons were some kind of polymer, with the numbers PRINTED on them.
Three of the buttons had the numbers worn away.
Needless to say, I solved the lock in a few seconds.
Funny thing, it was an executive-type bathroom, not to be used by scruffy hacker geeks like me.
Or so I was told by the executive-type that found me in there using a urinal.
"Who gave you the combination?"
"Everyone who used the bathroom since the lock was installed, that's who." (FLUSH)
Some of that Trash Hacking... (Score:5, Insightful)
Using this word superfluously is starting to take on the characteristics of the word 'kool'; You sound like you have an IQ of 5, so give it a freakin' rest already.
Re:Some of that Trash Hacking... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Some of that Trash Hacking... (Score:3, Insightful)
There are better key locks, but they are rare (Score:4, Informative)
Lever locks have the combination component one step removed from the input component, which makes them harder to force. If you try to force a lever lock, you may trash the levers, but that won't open the lock.
Safe deposit boxes are traditionally lever locks, although not always very good ones. Jail locks are usually level locks of massive size.
Lever locks are usually big rectangular boxes, unsuitable for embedding in a door. So they're not used much unless serious security is required, as in a jail.
Re:80% of locks cheap crap? (Score:5, Informative)
Abloy locks employ a sidebar and rotating disks. It's very, very difficult to pick them for several reasons; sidebar locks are intrinsically difficult to pick (such as the old GM locks, which didn't have a pick set for them until the late 1980's or early 1990's, when some smartass figured out that you could use a special spring compression tool to allow the wafers to free-float. That makes them subject to move when vibrated or rapped, and the sidebar (which is then under spring pressure) can line them up.
Abloy has no such constraint. IIRC, the world record for picking an Abloy is 36 hours. That may have changed; I don't know.
For high security locks like Medeco, ASSA, Abloy, etc., the fastest way through them is a grinder. Used to be an ice pick attack to the latch, and although some locks are still improperly installed, that's largely gone the way of the dodo.
As a locksmith myself, I'd rather have Abloy on my doors more than anything else. But they're hard to find here in the US, so I use Medeco instead. Beats the hell out of a $15 Kwikset, lemme tell you.
Re:Lock Picking Tools... (Score:2, Insightful)
social engineering a better tool (Score:3, Interesting)
And then day, a few of us somehow got the idea to "kidnap" the big-bob statue when we noticed on a late night dining trip it was just made of fibreglass (light enough to carry away) and locked to the sidewalk with a sliding metal rod key padlock.
Instead of picking the padlock (which we probably could have done very easily as we practiced all the time), my buddy decided to just copy down model n