IT (And Other) Salaries On The Rise In The U.S. 780
pertinax18 writes "CNN Money is reporting that salaries for most college grads are on the rise once again. Especially interesting to collegiate (and other) /. readers may be the 4.1% increase in pay for CS grads, and 10.7% increases in pay for others in the field. From the article: 'If those numbers sound enticing, it's probably because computer science graduates are long overdue for a pay increase. "They haven't seen an increase since 2001 and this is the first year, in all four reports, that they showed an increase," Koncz says.' Are things finally starting to look up for us?"
Bush's Fault (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:3, Insightful)
But even if the guy with the hose wasn't intending to water your front door, doesn't mean he didn't do it.
I think the point is, it's possible for Bush to have squashed jobs, then later through inaction on his part, jobs come back. Some will say it's brilliant strategy by Bush to do nothing, others will say it's sheer laziness by Bush. In the end, it doesn't really matter, if being an inactiv
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:4, Insightful)
If things do turn around over several successful quarters, you can ask this question again and expect a fair answer.
Given the relatively bleak outlook on the economy right now, I don't think that this is likely. Typically there is a modest boost in economic output during an election year due to American optimism, but even THAT effect is heavily muted this year.
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:5, Interesting)
I'll tell you why (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'll tell you why (Score:4, Funny)
He eats babies, simple as that.
Are you kidding? He got the recipes from Nixon.
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You can't blame stuff like this on ANY president. (Score:5, Insightful)
You know what caused the tech market crash? Clinton? Bush? No... YOU did! By "you" I mean every American who pissed their savings away by investing WAY too much money in an empire that (at the time) had almost nothing to offer in terms of REAL product. As a result of all the venture capital flying around, too many
The result? Exactly what SHOULD happen. Companies collapse, people lose their jobs (unfortunately), and the economy (not the president), along with the basic rules of supply and demand, slowly corrects our mistakes.
Re:You can't blame stuff like this on ANY presiden (Score:5, Funny)
*I* did? Funny, I thought the fed did that... (Score:4, Insightful)
But since someone brought it up... I remember Greenspan playing a key role in helping that bubble burst. You know, Mr. Irrational Exuberance himself. The guy raising interest rates with the stated purpose of 'slowing down the overheating economy.'
He also stood by and watched Clinton sign away [ratical.org] depression era laws in 1999 that had been on the books for decades. Yeah, that's him on the far left. These laws separated banks, securities firms, and insurance companies for a reason. Imagine a bank invested in the stock market. Not only is this a risky investment for a bank holding *YOUR* money, but suppose it provides a conflict of interest. The bank is also dispensing investment advice. Banks might mislead investors in order to bail themselves out of a bad investment, no? Well guess what happens next... [riskglossary.com]
There was plenty of blame to go around. Corporate executives had cooked books while lining their pockets. Analysts at investment banks had recommended stocks they knew were dogs in a quid pro quo that ensured banking business from those same firms.
Which brings us back around to the real reason for our failing economy. Gross mismanagement of tax laws, [pbs.org] banking regulations, and the federal budget by congress and the president. And not just this congress and not just this president. You don't get a 7.4 Trillion dollar national debt overnight. That, friend, you cannot blame on me or the terrorists.
And Vice Versa (Score:4, Insightful)
For the same reason that when nice things happen, the Bush campaign proclaims that their plans are working, but when bad things happen, it's because we're just in tough times.
Yes, people who don't like Bush see more reasons to dislike Bush in the information they encounter. But this isn't unique to his critics, nor make him a particularly uniquely beleagured president.
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:5, Informative)
As people are fond of saying: "You must be new here..." (Not just to /., but to the planet Earth. ;-)
It's for the same reason that leaders (in the U.S.A., and in other countries, and even the PHB down the hall from your cube) will claim credit for economic upturns during their reign, while claiming that any and all economic downturns were caused by:
Leaders in power like to claim credit for good things, and avoid responsibility for bad things. Opponents of leaders in power like to assign blame for bad things, and claim responsibility for good things (or at least deny that the leader may have had a role in the good things).
Welcome to the world of carbon-based Terran life forms. For further study, may I recommend reading a long-running classic field study [unitedmedia.com] of this planet's society, conducted by the noted sociologist, Scott Adams. While the studies focus primarily on interactions within hierarchical corporate institutions, you may find them illustrative as you attempt to understand the political systems you encounter on your survey of our planet.
Live long and prosper, or whatever the appropriate greeting is on your homeworld.
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:Bush's Fault (Score:3, Insightful)
it actually started going down as of 97... which was when everyone's favorite president was in office.
why didn't he get blamed for the dot bomb of 97?
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:3, Insightful)
Okay let me expand that...
If it was bad towards the end of Clinton, you would agree it would be, by default, bad under Bush for a certain amount of time, right?
How long does it take to get policy ennacted? Nothing Bush did would have an effect until at least Summer of 01 (when tax cuts got put into the economy), a m
Re:Bush's Fault, Clinton's Fault, Bush's Fault, Re (Score:5, Insightful)
Iraq was something we never should have undertaken. Life is filled with choosing the lesser of two evils. Invading a sovereign nation and pissing off 90% of the Arab world, torturing people, ignoring basic rights, excluding ourselves from international treaty agreements, this whole mess is going to return to us ten-fold over the next century.
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:5, Insightful)
That is an adequate explanation for 2001. But it fails to explain that Bush promised hundreds of thousands of new jobs every month if his tax cut was passed, and it was passed, and the jobs just haven't materialized.
Most economists believe that other choices, like modest tax cuts targeting the middle class along with extending unemployment insurance, would have cost the treasury far less, and done far more to get the economy moving again.
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:4, Insightful)
If you want larger salary, you ask for it. If you are afraid, then there is something else at play.
PS: You hardly ever want to tell your boss you want more money without doing your homework first. But on the other hand, don;t go apply for a job elsewhere just to see how much they'll offer you so you can tell your current boss, because the new company will feel slighted and you may need them in the future (like 6 months down the road after you really get fed up and just walk out).
The other thing you want to do is keep learning on your own. I have learned that you don't actually learn new stuff at companies. You have to learn it on your own time. It also demonstrates to potential employers that you are self-motivated, able to take on a difficult project, and are able to carry it to fruition.
Finally, save some money. Put aside enough for 6 months of living expenses. That way, besides earning a little bit of interest, you'll have enough money to weather a sudden job change, and not feel pressured into taking whatever just to pay next month's rent.
Trust me on that one.
Now, for some more on-topic stuff:
As someone mentioned, other costs have risen steadily for a while. We're seeing a reajustment of wages to match the increase in the cost of living. In Computer stuff, a lot of people have given up on the field altogether and gone back to the farm (so to speak) or became realtors, etc. I say this is good as there are more people in the computer field that do it "for the love of the game" rather than just for the quick buck.
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:3, Informative)
But with the end of the recession in late 2001,* corporate profits jumped enormously. And they have continued to rise as the lousy labor market has dragged down wages and salaries while greatly-increased productivity has driven value added per worker way, way up.
Re:Bush's Fault (off-topic) (Score:3, Informative)
Good luck with that plan.
No kidding.
Maybe he'll get them to release enough to balace out the $0.50 / gallon gas tax increase he wants to impose (yeah, right). I'm sure that will really help the poor and cause the cost of goods to drop since EVERYTHING is shipped by truck eventually.
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:4, Insightful)
I am not a Bush fanboy, but I would also like to point out that it is interesting that all the Enron, etc, crap is pointed at Bush when it all occured during the Clinton administration under the nose of Reno.
Actually, you CAN kill the economy in 2 months. (Score:4, Informative)
It is no accident that the bust coincided with Bush's election. Without Bush, there still would have been a dot-com bust, but other sectors would not have been as badly affected.
It is also no accident that oil prices, after stagnating for pretty much the entire Clinton years, started skyrocketing after Bush's election. It is his priority to keep gas prices high. For every cent in gas price hikes, the Oil industry makes millions of dollars. And guess which industry forms Bush's personal financial base.
Magnus.
Re:Actually, you CAN kill the economy in 2 months. (Score:3, Insightful)
The simple fact is that the dot com bubble burst. Two many tech related industries grew too fast. Is this Clinton's fault? I really don't like the man, but I don't blame him. I don't think anyone would have foreseen the situation we got ourselves into. I do blame Reno and the feds for not keeping a tighter reign on corporate
Re:Actually, you CAN kill the economy in 2 months. (Score:3, Insightful)
As for the Microsoft trial sabotage, this occurred due to Microsoft's
Re:Actually, you CAN kill the economy in 2 months. (Score:3, Interesting)
I was. In fact, I worked at a company that sold to the CLEC market. The collapse of the CLEC market had nothing to do with who was in oval office; CLECs, like many other new companies, failed for legitimate business reasons.
Starting a CLEC means a huge capital investment before booking the first sale, think 50 - 100 million. You need ATM switches, DSLAMs, premise equipment, billing and equipment management systems, 911 systems, service huts, trucks, office spa
Re:Actually, you CAN kill the economy in 2 months. (Score:3, Funny)
If you've only just noticed this I'd have to say you're a bit slow on the uptake.
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:4, Insightful)
First I would agree that the economy wasn't doing too well in 2001! Next I will give instructions on how to start an Instant Recession.
Begin by sturring in the information to CEO types that you will no longer enforce the border. (This kills the labor market) Throw in a dash of telling them that the US Justice Department will quit looking to see if they are doing securities fraud etc. (This loots the money from investors) Turn up the heat on the pot by demanding Trade Promotion Authority (Which makes the companies have no national loyalty) and then simmer gently over a fire of refusing to enforce environmental, health and safety laws.
If that doesn't work bring in advisers who talk about outsourcing as being good for the economy and the mad rush will be on...
But that didn't happen did it?!? Of course having busines s awaiting new more favorable tax laws will halt their current plans too. When these passed they could best be stated that they told American Business to "Get the Hell out of the USA ASAP!"
You were entirely fair about Enron except not noting who supported who for the Presidency...
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:3, Insightful)
He and Cheney kept referring to the weakening economy as being in "likely recession" (Which is was not at the time) during the 2000 eleciton cycle. Every politician and economist knows that you don't use the word recession until the downturn is either fully engaged or over in order to avoid having it become a self-fulfilling prophesy, i.e. people hear the word recession and they begin to dial down their spending and i
Re:Bush's Fault (Score:3, Insightful)
Don't forget that in the closing months of 2001, it was a top news story, I'm talking about headline news, for weeks and weeks, that 1. Enron was going bankrupt, and 2. They, and their Accounting Firm Arthur Anderson, were shredding documents by the Truckload.
Now, I don't know about you, but if I were a cop, standing outside a d
What a Crock (Score:5, Informative)
It's more about cuts and firings lately
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Re:What a Crock (Score:3, Informative)
The other IT workers here have gotten good raises as well. Two friends that program for the local phone company have gotten decent raises. One friend that assembles computers at a local store got a 50 cent / hour raise (he's part t
Re:What a Crock (Score:5, Insightful)
It's just like lowering the unemployment rate by waiting for people to give up looking for jobs instead of actually creating new jobs. Lying with statistics is fun!
Re:What a Crock (Score:4, Interesting)
I was employed in a bank's IT department. I got a 3.7% raise in May 2004 after I received my yearly eval. This came out to about $1040/yr gross.
Less than 2 months later, I got outsourced to some scumbag "IT Services" company as the motherfuckers had all been planning since Dec 2003. As a result, I lost a health-insurance stipend ($1120/yr). Furthermore, we lost the company vehicle and reverted to our own vehicles; my car costs me 30.5c/mi to run (I keep detailed records), but the mileage we're paid to cover all car costs is 22.0c/mi
So, gee, I got a 3.7% "rise", and 2 months later they contrived to have my income "fall" $1600/yr
I've been saving money like a fanatic, knowing this day must come. And it's still getting worse. I've at least $5000 loaned out to 3 friends for necessary payments (auto repair; mortgage and rent; electric bills; etc.)
I don't buy anything anymore. I'm never buying anything again. Capitalist America hung me out to dry and they'll never see me cooperate again. I live for the day when the Capitalists go out for long walks off their short window ledges when their nigger investments go south from the lack of credited consumers. The entire economy has been transformed into strip malls, junk bonds and websites. People have been transformed into appallingly credited hyperconsumers who are incapable of saving and meeting all future obligations. A grown person cannot expect to spend money like a 14-yr-old girl for decades and expect any good to come from it. Your houses are worth at most 60% of what you foolishly call a "going market rate", and I'm going to have my blackest laugh at you when you shed big tears over how much your property taxes are costing you when you still can't find work.
Fuck you, America! You can't eat money, and paper also makes for poor radioactivity shielding too. Die the nasty death that every Empire must encounter.
Re:What a Crock (Score:3, Insightful)
If you couldn't see through your s
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Re:What a Crock (Score:3, Insightful)
Most of the stories I hear about people starting their own businesses center on the concept of them stumbling into some situation and discovering a niche market th
Re:What a Crock (Score:3, Insightful)
You're not the only one... I don't believe anything anymore, and I get more cynical with each passing moment.
Maybe the American political process would be better off if everyone just assumed the Powers That Be were lying to them with every breath. The resulting interpretation would probably be much closer to the truth than the bullshit spewed at us from people
Oh great... (Score:4, Funny)
How come I aint not get no raise? (Score:5, Funny)
one omission (Score:5, Insightful)
So sure, maybe the ones that were hired are making more, but if they are only hiring a small percentage of grads, you'd expect them to make more, wouldn't you? (As they would be more qualified than the average grad)
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What has went up the most in the past 12-24 months? Food (Milk and anything made with milk) and Energy prices.
Funny how it excludes the products that almost everyone has to buy from its calculations, isn't it?
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Second, home energy costs make up 3.83% of the CPI budget, auto fuel makes up 3.25%, dairy makes up 0.84% of the budget, and all food makes up 15.38% of the budget. Assuming a $2,000/month budget, this translates to $76.60 a month for home energy, $65 for auto fuel, $16.80 for dairy, and $307.60 for all food. None of those figures look too terribly out of line to me. Specifically, which one do you object to?
Third, the BLS table [bls.gov] shows dairy up 10.4% since August 2003, and auto fuel up 16.5% over the same period. I calculate the price rise from the USDA numbers [usda.gov]to be about 23%, and the Department of Energy [doe.gov] has fuel prices up 15.9%. Granted, the milk number looks skewed, but the DOE numbers are actually higer for fuel costs.
I will concede that the CPI numbers aren't perfect; no measure of "inflation" can be. But, to insinuate they are cooked or are made up is really tenuous.
Re:one omission (Score:5, Informative)
Average salaries may be on the increase, but total jobs in the IT field are not. It's getting *more* difficult to find a job; the glut of IT folks out there (and it *is* a glut) means employers can sit on their haunches while waiting for that "perfect candidate" who has exactly 3 years as an Oracle DBA and 5+ years experience with ADO.NET. (Yes, I've seen job offers exactly like that -- has ADO.NET even been *around* for 5 years?).
There are *ZERO* entry level jobs on the market at the moment. So the rest of us who just got out of college, even if we racked up experience with internships or other on-the-side jobs, are screwed unless we can lie convincingly in our interviews. If we can even *get* an interview, that is.
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Re:one omission (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm afraid I must take issue with your very first assumption. The mere availablity of so much related IT talent is what made Silicon Valley a hotbed. Essentially, my counter-argument goes like this: With the number of skilled workers growing while the job numbers remain in check, now is the time to start your own company and give these people a job.
Makes sense to be a contrarian. If more people than just me believe in that, then job growth is partially depende
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Are they really? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Are they really? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Are they really? (Score:4, Insightful)
If it gets bad enought they will just vote them a much larger portion of your check.
The sky ISN'T falling (Score:2, Interesting)
IT is still alive and will continue to be a career with prospects in the USA.
Not everything can/should be outsourced.
Question (Score:4, Interesting)
I mean, it certainly seems reasonable to assume that the two are related...but...?
A Year ago... (Score:5, Informative)
In the last few months, I've started getting emails randomly from recruiters who've seen my resumes posted. I haven't been looking, haven't updated it. One of the opportunities struck me, so I took it. No problems. I've been offered more jobs in the past month - without looking for anything - than I could even get close to a year ago.
I'm confused (Score:5, Funny)
What does salary increase mean?
Where's my job then? (Score:3, Interesting)
I know of one person who moved from Texas (where he lived and graduated) to DC just because the odds were better that he'd get a job. Didn't work.
CS != IT (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:CS != IT (Score:3, Insightful)
Theory (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Theory: Placement rate (Score:3, Insightful)
Yep, theory makes sense and fits the facts.
keep in mind that (Score:3, Funny)
trimming off the bottom (Score:5, Interesting)
Got to be an average. (Score:3, Interesting)
Got to be an average- I've got my Bachelor's of Software Engineering, and I'm only making $42,000/year after 10 years of experience.
Re:Got to be an average. (Score:4, Informative)
National averages are pretty useless.
Re:Got to be an average. (Score:3, Interesting)
--trb
Re:Got to be an average. (Score:4, Informative)
Programmers in NYC get 80K per year just so they can keep up with the increased housing, cost of living, etc. Programmers in the Midwest get 35K. Same quality of life, just different numbers. Take a look at these numbers [bls.gov] to make a comparison by region.
Comes from employers/tax returns (I believe), so will probably be more accurate than surveys which have voluntary participation.
Re:Got to be an average. (Score:5, Funny)
In related news: A statistician from the local college drowned today in a lake with an average depth of 7 inches.
Re:Got to be an average. (Score:3, Insightful)
The people making $130,000 per year in Silicon Valley make those making $42,000 per year feel really bad - at least until you look at the cost of housing in Silicon Valley.
A good number of years ago, when I made $35,000 per year, I did some cost-of-living calculations to live an equivalent lifestyle around the nation. In some places, I would have needed to make $90,000 just to break even.
steve
SHHHHHHHHHH (Score:3, Insightful)
That's what will increase our salaries and our demand.
College (Score:3, Insightful)
Only the strongest will survive.
Re:College (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:College (Score:4, Insightful)
I wish I had mod points for this one.
Unfortunately, college has been dumbed down to where high school used to be. We're now faced with streams of college graduates who spent their time either sleeping or partying wondering why, oh why don't I have a job.
No (Score:3, Insightful)
Is it a good thing we got a 4% raise on the job we got laid off from?
Oh, and 4% PER YEAR, EVERY YEAR,would just about keep up with inflation. Then, maybe management would notice the 15% annual increase in housing costs...
Perhaps, (Score:4, Insightful)
The salary paid to those working is not just something that is nice to have high. It is calculated from the state of the system. If the pay is bad then do something about it. Sometimes the only thing you can do is find a different job as there are too many workers in the industry.
Also, the industry can regulate this more if IT people want more money. Take the Medical Profession for example. They place a limit on the number of accepted students every year. If CS education did this as well, then the decreased supply (I don't think the demand is going anywhere) will force employers to pay the workers more money. On the reverse side, not as many people would have jobs. This is almost like the question on Socialism vs. Capitalism. If you want everyone to be working and be marginally content, then don't expect alot of money. Judging from this article, that is not what people want but infact the Capitalistic prespective in that they want more money.
I call shenanigans... (Score:5, Interesting)
Unemployment in the IT sector is up (due to both outsourcing AND the struggling economy), so who cares if the people with jobs are getting a bit more money?
Furthermore, this article is talking specifically about fresh out of college newhires - something the person who posted this seems to avoid clarifying altogether.
Guess what? They're getting these jobs and their first increase since 2001 (CS graduates) because the older folks who were making $60k and are now unemployed are gone - a net savings of $11k.
Bottom line: It's still brutally difficult to find a decent computer science / IT job right now, and the people in them aren't getting huge raises. It's also important to note that there's complaints heard 'round the country from IT and CS folks about the fact that they're working ridiculous numbers of hours.
The insane high salaries of the tech boom, however unjustified they seemed at the time, were actually justifiable because these fresh out of college kids were often dumping 60-80 hours per week into their job. (Note that I agree that the rest of the spending during the tech boom, however, was just as stupid as everyone says it was).
Re:I call shenanigans... (Score:3, Informative)
When those who claim to be unemployed are asked "Are you actively looking for a job?" by anyone other than their unemployment assistant, the numbers who answer "no" are fairly high, those people are skewing the official tallies of the unemployed.
steve
Re:I call shenanigans... (Score:5, Funny)
Speaking as someone with a job in IT.. I do.
Thanks.
New graduates don't have a clue... (Score:5, Insightful)
The truth is that most CS graduates go into smaller businesses. And when they walk in my front door, they have no clue what they should be making. I've had B-students who held a student job doing data entry for their University walk in the door and tell me they're "willing" to work for $75,000 a year, to be a code monkey after graduation. I've also had graduate students with quite a bit of experience walk in and tell me they're expecting $36-40k.
Depending on how many
As far as I'm concerned, the question of "What's a Degree Worth" is bunk. 90% of a new grad's worth has little to do with their academic program, and everything to do with their attitude, their experiences, and their fitness for the job. There's MIT grads that I wouldn't hire if they were the last non-Indian programmers on the planet.
A degree is worth nothing. The grad's attiude and ability to produce is what sets their salary. Lacking that, they're either unemployed 6 months later, or getting bonuses and raises because the company wants to encourage loyalty and keep them around for a long time. The diploma on your wall has very little to do with that.
Re:New graduates don't have a clue... (Score:5, Insightful)
where the hell do you work??? What you speak of flies in the face of what corperate policy is.
Do more and bust your arse = very little thanks and only more work with a "sorry no money available for raises" while we hear about the CTO getting a 1.2M bonus.
I would kill to work for a company that encourages hard work and rewards for a job well done.
Those poor, misguided Psych grads (Score:3, Funny)
Psychology majors enjoyed a 2 percent increase with entry-level salaries averaging $28,230.
Is this some strange useage of the word "enjoyed" with which I was not previously familiar?
One Two Punch (Score:3, Interesting)
OK, so maybe my tinfoil hat is wrapped on a little bit too tightly...
But isn't it strange to put this story side by side with CNET's interview of Professor James Foley's warning about too few people going into computer science related studies. [com.com]
Of course, the professor has a vested interest in increasing the number of CS students and also in getting more research funding for CS projects - which is to be expected given where his bread is buttered.
He does make good points about the long term consequences of turning out fewer CS grads per capita than other countries, and about how younger researchers deserve a chance to do independent research without laboring as indentured post-docs under the wing of less creative mentors.
But trying to encourage more students to go into CS and IT right now is not necessarily as good a plan as trying to improve the education level of future CS students that are only 0-10 years old right now.
No so fast Billy Ray... (Score:3, Funny)
2. Send out a press release showing the economy is doing great because salaries are going up.
3. Profit
H-1b/L-1 effects (Score:4, Informative)
4.1% (Score:3, Interesting)
Salaries not an issue if you can't even get a job (Score:4, Insightful)
Knowing you would've made more money if you could even get hired doesn't put food on the table.
And of course salaries can go up if there are less people to employ. A given amount of money divided less ways is more per person.
But it doesn't matter how big the pieces of the pie are if you aren't even allowed at the table.
They're not increasing in the UK/Europe (Score:3, Informative)
I'm currently looking for a IT job and the salaries are the same or lower than I was paid in 2001. At my last job I didn't get a pay increase during the three years I was there, and I don't know anyone who has received a pay rise.
People have commented the rise is only because all the low paid jobs have been outsourced from the US. In the UK/Europe every IT job has gone - experienced/mid-level/junior the lot. In fact the majority of jobs in the UK are listed as entry level jobs because they're paying peanuts (the same amount of money I was getting in 1997).
The UK and Europe has lost out particularly badly because we're playing 'piggy in the middle'. The high-skill jobs are in the states, the low-paid jobs are in India/China and the UK/Europe gets nothing. The UK doesn't invest enough to get the high-skill jobs and is too expensive for the low pay stuff.
Re:And history drops almost 5% (Score:5, Funny)
I hardly ever have an experience at work where I'm working on a design document or expense report or something, and all of a sudden it's like "OH SHIT! I'm gonna miss the deadline! When did Hannibal cross the Alps!?"
Re:And history drops almost 5% (Score:3, Informative)
bachelor's degree in medieval history and philosophy [hp.com]
Re:Good news for all, not just American IT workers (Score:3, Interesting)
Besides, there a lot of Sikh software engineers in India, so dont understant your point. If any.
Re:A Big Helping of Hypocrisy (Score:3, Funny)
Not correct. The market is shot because idiot HR departments assume that everyone who applies is an HTML jockey who once flipped through "C++ in 21 days" unless they have a PHD and have 10+ years experience with
"Just not in Delaware.." (Score:3, Interesting)
So, here's my $0.02 on your approach and how to change your luck. Note up front that your problems are most like all about what you AREN'T saying.
First of all, I like the $500 idea. FWIW - It's kind of cool and shows some spunk. But, asking people to go ahead and tailor YOUR resume to THEIR needs isn
Re:Ah, who should I believe? (Score:3, Funny)
Your paycheck is obviously part of the liberal media. You are either with CNN or against democracy(tm).