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MPAA Blames Linux Australia Notice on Human Error 254

rjch writes "According to ZDNet Australia, the MPAA is blaming their recent takedown notice to Linux Australia as 'human error'. 'MPAA spokesman Matt Grossman denied the MPAA's system, which sends out 100,000 notices of claimed infringement on an annual basis was flawed. He said the organisation was not doing blind keyword matching against Internet content and sending out automatic infringement notices without checks, as Linux Australia had previously claimed.' When asked why this slipped through their checks, Grossman told Builder AU 'the answer is a simple human error unfortunately. Everyone has a bad day'. Grossman further denied the MPAA was sending out unsolicited e-mails."
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MPAA Blames Linux Australia Notice on Human Error

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  • by psy ( 88244 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @02:58AM (#10457730)
    Can you really believe that they are going to manually check 100,000 files for legimacy?
  • by anti-pop-frustration ( 814358 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @02:59AM (#10457732) Journal
    I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
  • by hanssprudel ( 323035 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:00AM (#10457735)

    What is this? A change in policy on Slashdot. This can only be for the worse. I am very angry. Rabble rabble rabble (or something).
  • MPAA vowes to eliminate any posibilty of human error on their next "mailing" by incorporating high tech tools that will seek out and verify the violations using descriptive meta-data and file naming system. Furthermore any attempts to circumvent this proccess will be dealt with in a strict and obscure manner. We reccomend that you check your current library against known copyrighted work unless you want to get pwnd.

    Thank you.

    • by Anonymous Coward
      Dear MPAA,

      I didn't mean to make 1000 of my MPAA MPEG collection public. I mean to make 1000 of my Indie artist MPEG collection and movie clips. I have the right to distribute those freely.

      I'm sure you'll understand and quietly overlook the incident because you know that we're all human.

      Sincerely,
      --- Honest Miss Taek Wright

  • Yeah right. (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:04AM (#10457756)
    If that's so, I would be happy to serve any Adult Movie Industry Association for such antipiracy purposes.
  • by mark-t ( 151149 ) <markt AT nerdflat DOT com> on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:05AM (#10457758) Journal
    This can't have happened very often in the past or else we would have heard about a lot more cases like this.

    I'm certainly no fan of the MPAA, but maybe it might not be a bad idea to give them the benefit of the doubt... this time (then when it happens again everyone can really lay into them full throttle).

  • by aaza ( 635147 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:05AM (#10457760)
    Have the MPAA ever done business with Linux Australia?
    Doubtful, but I would need to check.

    Is the mail sent of a commercial nature?
    "Take this down or we sue." Kinda commercial, if suing people is their business (for the RIAA it seems to be, maybe it is for the MPAA as well).

    CAN-SPAM?
    Apparently they can.

  • by MachDelta ( 704883 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:05AM (#10457762)
    MPAA: OMG! You're downloading movies you evil pirate! Why?! STOP IMMEDIATELY!!

    Me: Human error. Watch. *Click* - OOPS! Finger slipped!
    • by hype7 ( 239530 ) <u3295110@noSPam.anu.edu.au> on Thursday October 07, 2004 @04:06AM (#10457933) Journal
      MPAA: OMG! You're downloading movies you evil pirate! Why?! STOP IMMEDIATELY!!


      Me: Human error. Watch. *Click* - OOPS! Finger slipped!


      What's more concerning is that this may open the door for spammers to pull the "accident" route and bypass the law. It wouldn't be a long running business practice, but what's to stop them setting up a shell company, "accidentally" spamming a lot of people, then closing the company up so it doesn't "accidentally" do it twice?

      Set up a new company, wash, rinse, repeat.

      -- james
      • What's more concerning is that this may open the door for spammers to pull the "accident" route and bypass the law. It wouldn't be a long running business practice, but what's to stop them setting up a shell company, "accidentally" spamming a lot of people, then closing the company up so it doesn't "accidentally" do it twice?

        Set up a new company, wash, rinse, repeat.

        <cynicism>
        Why go to the hassle of setting up a new company every time? The movie companies don't set up a new MPAA every time they rep

  • by Suchetha ( 609968 ) <suchetha@@@gmail...com> on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:07AM (#10457769) Homepage Journal
    .. in the subtitles^Wextortion^Wnotices.

    Those responsible have been sacked.
  • Maybe.. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Wilkshake ( 788751 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:09AM (#10457777)
    Maybe the MPAA needs to start basing their takedown notices on actual or proven infringement of copyright rather than just their current reign of circumstantial and claimed legal Gestapoing.

    ---

    • Re:Maybe.. (Score:4, Insightful)

      by RAMMS+EIN ( 578166 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @04:09AM (#10457940) Homepage Journal
      Still, I bet that most people who get those takedown notices are indeed breaking the law.

      It's not like you are dead meat once you get a takedown notice. There's no court case running against you yet, and you can still inform the *AA that what you're doing is, in fact, completely legal. Then maybe they'll do an actual assesment, or they might just drop the case and go after an easier target.

      I think people are really giving the RIAA too hard a time. Yes, they refuse to see the light on online distribution. And indeed, we don't need them to distribute our music. However, it is their task to find copyright infringers and bring them to justice, and that's what they're doing. Even those teenagers who get sued get sued because they are breaking the law. If you disagree with the law, fine, get the law changed. You live in a democracy, right? Right?
      • Re:Maybe.. (Score:2, Interesting)

        It might be the case that the majority of those who recieve a letter are breaking the law. The problem is, the DMCA (which is what this is based off of) invokes some executive/judiciary power against people by anyone who spends the time/effort to write up a letter. That's great if it's laid against the right people, but the second it's laid against the wrong people, it's an abuse of power. If the RIAA or MPAA were to off and sue one of the people (what they'd have to do without the DMCA), you could count
        • The problem is, the DMCA (which is what this is based off of) invokes some executive/judiciary power against people by anyone who spends the time/effort to write up a letter.

          If it were that simple you'd expect to see individuals and small corps sending these kind of letters to big corps. e.g. SCO should be swimming in them, since they are commercially pirating Linux and making a big fuss about it.

          If the RIAA or MPAA were to off and sue one of the people (what they'd have to do without the DMCA), you cou
      • Since you dont mind I am about to write a take down notice to your ISP and upstream provider.

        Have fun!
      • Re:Maybe.. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Tom ( 822 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @06:14AM (#10458190) Homepage Journal
        you can still inform the *AA that what you're doing is, in fact, completely legal.

        I could. But why should I? They are looking for something, it's their job to verify their search results. Why should I waste a second of my time pointing out to them what they should've checked themselves?

        They're sending these messages out in the thousands. If we assume an error rate of 1%, and that is a very forgiving assumption, that's a hundred or so errors. If it takes 30 minutes to sort things out, that's 50 hours burnt on account of the **AA, 50 hours that they don't pay a dime for, but should.
      • ok, so let's send everyone fines on jaywalking because almost everyone has done it at least once in their lives.

        besides, THEY FUCKING ARE just mining the web for keywords and sending out takedown notices without proper checking. otherwise they would notice that the file is too small for a movie file(and not a torrent file) and of a totally unrelated project as well. also they don't do any checking of where in the world the possible infringer lives(and state us laws, and dmca, regardless of if they're in ef
      • Re:Maybe.. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by BlueWonder ( 130989 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @07:31AM (#10458421)
        Still, I bet that most people who get those takedown notices are indeed breaking the law.

        Once upon a time, judging if somebody broke the law was not based on betting...

        However, it is their task to find copyright infringers and bring them to justice, and that's what they're doing.

        You seem to have missed the point of the article. It's about a case where finding copyright infringers was not what they've been doing,

        Even those teenagers who get sued get sued because they are breaking the law.

        So you're saying that Linux Australia is a bunch of teenagers who broke the law?

        If you disagree with the law, fine, get the law changed.

        Which law is it that gives the MPAA the right to harass innocent people?

      • Re:Maybe.. (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Holi ( 250190 )
        If you disagree with the law, fine, get the law changed. You live in a democracy, right? Right?

        No, I live in a representative democracy, and as such have no real say on the laws that are created. My only chance of making the changes I want is to run for office. The only problem with that is do to choices and actions I have done in my past I would be un-electable. I can ask for the legislature to modify copyright laws but do you really think they are going to listen.

  • Just check by hand. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mind21_98 ( 18647 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:11AM (#10457781) Homepage Journal
    Isn't it easier and less expensive to just send the letters by hand? If it was someone other than Linux Australia, they could possibly have a nasty legal issue on their hands (IANAL).
    • by bhima ( 46039 ) <Bhima,Pandava&gmail,com> on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:49AM (#10457886) Journal
      A few years ago I was getting to know a nice young lass in marketing. One afternoon she was preparing a mailing to some segment of our customers which literaly took up 7 US Post mailing bins. She was using an automated folder, stuffer, address labeler and sealer (all in one device that would fit on you desk) and it took her longer to decide not to go out with me than to process the mail...

      So no, I don't think it would be eaiser or cheaper.

      • it took her longer to decide not to go out with me than to process the mail...

        Wow! So you said...

        "Hey, uh, groovy chick. What say we, uh... check out Star Wars Episode II and maybe we can... have sex?"

        And in the split second it took her to reply

        "Stay away from me, you Slashdot reading geek-fiend!"
        and run out of the building, she was able to prepare the mailing?

        I am impressed.

        On a side-note, the grandparent mentions delivering letters by hand. Well, I sometimes get charity junk-mail (through m
  • by mirko ( 198274 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:13AM (#10457792) Journal
    Future MPAA mails will begin with some harsh accusations and end with some disclaimer in the fine print, thus making it even more surrealistic.
    I can imagine it :

    Dear xxxx
    We ave strong reasons to believe you are infringing our members' copyright, please cease and desist.

    Yours.. erm : Ours...

    PS: Of course, it's also possible that our victim file got messed up by one of our million monkeys in which case you might disregard this mail.
    • Re:future mails (Score:5, Interesting)

      by wheany ( 460585 ) <wheany+sd@iki.fi> on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:46AM (#10457881) Homepage Journal
      Hey, they already say "Also, we hereby state, that the information in this notification is accurate and that we are authorized to act on behalf of the owners of the exclusive rights being infringed as set forth in this notification."

      At least in this forum post. [nesvideos.stc.cx] MPAA is accusing that the guy was downloading the movie "Speed", when the file name is "supermetroid-speedrunv3-frenom.avi."

      I would understand the mistake if the file name was something like "Supermetroid -Speed-frenom.avi", since many movies floating in p2p networks have the name of the ripper/encoder/releaser in them, but the name had the word "speedrun", not just "Speed."
      • by CdBee ( 742846 )
        What sort of self-respecting criminal would download Speed anyway....?? If he was doing it, he'd deserve everything he got!
  • Sorry! (Score:5, Funny)

    by mrchaotica ( 681592 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:15AM (#10457798)

    "We accused an innocent group of copyright infringment and threatened a lawsuit, wasting a bunch of people's time and possibly money and causing much emotional suffering, but we're vewy vewy sorry.

    That makes it OK, right?"

  • by andr0meda ( 167375 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:18AM (#10457807) Journal

    See here [scene.org]

    Reading it, you can clearly see that their 'human error' is no other than an automated filename scan.

    • Hehe, they comment the files were even still in /incoming/ so MPPA can't have been able to download it either. Funny how they do searches for files with words like "BASIC" and "ALIAS" in them...

      Come on... ALIAS1.zip, filesize: 23 K.

      Even if it's an automated tool, it's a very stupid automated tool.
      • Jam MPAA (Score:5, Interesting)

        by uglyduckling ( 103926 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @04:18AM (#10457954) Homepage
        Remember Jam Echelon? Perhaps it's time we all filled our http/ftp servers with files whose names will attract attention but whose contents are completely legal...?
        • Sounds like fun. My web site could use a few more page hits anyway, traffic has been low this month...
          • Re:Jam MPAA (Score:3, Interesting)

            by hyc ( 241590 )
            Methinks it's time to write a bit of perl script to retrieve the page at movies.yahoo.com and parse the "Top Movies" and "Coming Soon" tables for movie titles. Spit them out in a plain text list, and feed that into a file generator that generates random binary content (or whatever content you feel like.)

            Run it from a cron job (scheduled task) once a week and that should keep things hopping...
  • by Aussie ( 10167 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:19AM (#10457808) Journal
    the answer is a simple human error

    Yep, some simple humans made an error.
  • Perhaps SCO may choose to oursource their Linux lisence campaign to MPAA. I am sure SCO can't send 100,000 letters an year!
  • by El_Muerte_TDS ( 592157 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:22AM (#10457821) Homepage
    Everybody get's away with human error:

    Some guy:
    "No it ws human error, I didn't mean to:
    - violate the speed limit by 100KM/h
    - kill that guy
    - steal money from tax payers
    - cheat the stock market
    - use an aimbot
    - attack iraq because I thought they have WMD
    - ..."

    Judge:
    "Oh, if it was human error then law doesn't apply, so it's ok."

    Can somebody spell bullshit?
  • Possible (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Mr_Silver ( 213637 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:26AM (#10457830)
    I know we'd like to think that it was all performed by some cool web-searching script, judging by the technical level I've seen of some sections of the music industry, it is entirely possible that they just recruited a whole bunch of temps with the mandate "find files which have our artists name in them" and left them to it.

    In which case, human error (based on rubbish instructions) would be true.

    • Re:Possible (Score:3, Insightful)

      by JimDabell ( 42870 )

      It doesn't take a lot of time to write a robot that finds files with a certain name. I think that the most likely scenario is that they do have a bot that checks filenames, but the output would be so full of false-positives that human filtering is almost certainly required. In that case, the human error would be sending out 101 notices from a list of 10,000 files when they should have only sent out 100.

      Naturally, if the people are being paid for their throughput and not their accuracy, they are simply

    • Assuming he is telling the truth, I think it's more likely that some kind of scanning software is involved. It'd seem very difficult to either develop sufficiently intelligent software, or to hire people to simply search manually. Even in the latter case, it's unlikely that someone might "accidentally" wander into an open source repository and accidentally assume that a file in the middle of all those other legitimate files happens to be a ripped off movie.

      But the intermediate possibility seems much

    • a subpoena would surely reveal if they're using automated software or just hiring fuckwits off the street.
  • What we need... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by marsu_k ( 701360 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:30AM (#10457841)
    is more people running this [dyndns.org] script on their pages.
    • Re:What we need... (Score:3, Interesting)

      by sploxx ( 622853 )
      Even more effective and interesting would be to put up encrypted ZIP files of random data with "interesting filenames" and the right file length. Without revealing the password.

      Is there any reason why this may not be allowed? [In both the EU (where I live) or the US?]

      I would like to have a good lawyer as a friend before doing that, though.
    • I did something like this a month or so ago when that story was posted on Slashdot about the guy who was distributing a 23k file called Doom3:

      http://xzzy.org/warez/ [xzzy.org]

      For the month of September, that directory became the most popular location on my site.. over seven thousand unique visitors.

      Fighteningly, the file with britney spears in it's name was the most popular download by about 40%.

      Sadly, no DMCA/MPAA takedown notices. :(
  • by Cryptnotic ( 154382 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:32AM (#10457846)
    Grossman further denied the MPAA was sending out unsolicited e-mails.

    An infringement notice is an unsolicited e-mail, last time I checked. Can you imagine someone asking to be sent an infringement notice? Though, I don't think that you could say, "Hey, you're saying I'm infringing and you're going to sue me? Well, I'm going to sue you for sending me an unsolicited email! Ha!" I'm sure some lawyer would take your money to file a lawsuit against them, but I don't think you'd get very far in your case.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:39AM (#10457868)
    This is what, the 100,000th incorrect 'copyright infringement' notice that's been sent out? And they claim it to be human error? Proof that they are FULL OF SHIT - this [nesvideos.stc.cx] was received by someone at a board I frequent. Keep in mind this is a board where the topic is emulator-assisted videogame speed runs. Excerpts, since apparently in posting the whole thing I was using too many "junk" characters (the fuck?):
    We have received information that you are providing Internet or Usenet access to the above

    referenced account holder, or hosting the above referenced Internet site, which has made
    available the download or streaming of copyrighted motion picture(s) including such title(s)
    as:

    SPEED

    Infringement Detail:
    Infringing Work: SPEED
    Filepath: supermetroid-speedrunv3-frenom-avi.torrent/
    Filen ame: supermetroid-speedrunv3-frenom.avi
    First Found: 6 Sep 2004 00:29:14 EDT (GMT -0400)
    Last Found: 6 Sep 2004 00:29:14 EDT (GMT -0400)
    Filesize: 182,426k
    IP Address: (removed)
    IP Port: 26887
    Network: BTPeers
    Protocol: BitTorrent
    If that's not patternmatching then they're hiring retards to send these notices out. I'm betting on robots.
    • ... is that someone on the inside is purposely sending out false notices to make them look bad, which is highly unlikely.

      Otherwise, you're right, there's no way any rational person is going to see supermetroid-speedrunv3-frenom.avi and think that it is a copy of the movie "Speed". Human error my ass. A bot linked "speed" and ".avi" in the same file, simple as that. Hell, at least this file was 180+ MB. Other times it seems like they are calling out files that are a couple of K and saying they are full movi
  • by ahodgkinson ( 662233 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @03:44AM (#10457878) Homepage Journal
    I've read of a few other similar incidents and it appears that the MPAA is being a little too pro-active in hunting of copyright violators. In the end it doesn't matter if this as an automated process or being performed by hand, it's still harassment and can probably be couter-attacked though the courts.

    I wonder if a group of recipients of the MPAA cease and desist letters, meaning only those who are not distributing copyrighted material, could band together and sue the MPAA.

    The approach might be to start a MPAA victims (again consisting of only those who are provably not distributing copyrighted material) web-site or forum where you could document the MPAA's phishing attempts.

    Assuming the reality is as bad as the we're reading about, some lawyer or perhaps even the EFF might offer some pro-bono time to righting the wrongs that the MPAA appears to be committing.

  • "Bad Day"? WTF (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fuzzybunny ( 112938 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @04:00AM (#10457919) Homepage Journal
    "Gee sorry, Mrs. Smith, but the officer who shot your dog made a human error. It happens; hey, everyone has a bad day occasionally."

    What a crock of shit. IANAL and I haven't really thought through the consequences, but while "stealing" a song may or may not be wrong (let's not go into that argument), its net effect per incident on the "owner" is economically small. Conversely, hitting grandma with a $10k pay-up-sucka-or-we-sic-Joey-da-lawyer-on-you blackmail job, per inicident, has a relatively high economic impact on the target. Think speeding fines in Finland, commensurate with the level of your personal income and wealth.

    When someone's committed a crime (once again, without going into whether this is really justifiable as such or not), punishment appropriate to the level of the crime is, well, appropriate. Speed, pay a fine. Kill, go to jail. Usually, even if it's "by mistake".

    Governments, as enforcers of law & order authorized as such by the population of a commonwealth (yet again, please don't go into this argument, I think this is a fairly neutral way of putting it) will usually get away with making mistakes as a whole, even if the individual cop who shot Mrs. Smith's dog may suffer personal consequences. Restitution may be in order to the victim, but not consequences as such for the government as a whole.

    Private entities have no such privilege of authority. I kill your dog, I probably must make some sort of amends to you personally, as well as suffer possible consequences to myself personally.

    Soooo...taking this a step further, when someone's not done anything and is wrongly hit up for restitution for his supposed wrongdoing by a pack of malicious, thoughtless, greedy and unethical baboons (**AA for starts), they should be punished personally. As I would be if I nailed the Smith pooch, even by accident, and be forced to pay restitution appropriate to (a) the level of the wrongdoing committed, and (b) the relative level of nastiness of the wrongdoing.

    In this situation, the corporate thuggery, racketeering, blackmail, bullying and generally being a slobbering pack of cunts (not a crime, although it should be) makes for a pretty awful bit of work.

    In short, make the fuckers pay. Every time they "have a bad day". Through the nose. With criminal lawsuits and prison if possible.

    Grr.
    • Re:"Bad Day"? WTF (Score:2, Informative)

      by Lumpy ( 12016 )
      As I would be if I nailed the Smith pooch, even by accident, and be forced to pay restitution appropriate

      actually, if you hit someone's dog with your car and kill it, the dog owner is responsible to pay for damage to your car caused by their unleashed dog.

      It's the pet owner's responsibility to keep their animal under control and out of the way of cars and others.

      Anyways, it takes very little to thwart these *iaa morons. reverse the text,rot13,etc the filename and their search devices will only detect f
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 07, 2004 @04:12AM (#10457945)
    I finally got around to scripting a dynamic fake warez site. There are currently 250 movies, but you can add your own to the flat text file. This should work on ANY php webserver.

    If you try and download a file, you will get the correct mime-type, and filesize, but the transfer will gradually get slower and slower and it will never finish (well, maybe some day, but its garbage anyways).

    Preview: http://ciagon.dnsalias.com/movies/ [dnsalias.com]
    Source: http://ciagon.dnsalias.com/movies/index.phps [dnsalias.com]
    Movie List: http://ciagon.dnsalias.com/movies/movies.txt [dnsalias.com]

    Enjoy!
    • by Anonymous Coward
      Dear Anonymous Coward,

      According to our web monkey (#134723 known as Eric),
      your post contains URL(s) to copyrighted material.

      Our gaggle of lawyers informs us that this is ver, very, very, bad. We ask that you remove the offending links immediately and replace them with high-quality flash banner ads that inform the young people to say no to P2P.

      Yours Sincerely

      Matt Grossman
    • May I offer a userful suggestion? Each time you refresh this page you get a different, randomly chosen list of files. Were this an actual warez site, it would have the same list more or less on a given day. My suggestion is to come up with a way of generating the randomness of the page using the current date and the ip address of the client requesting the page, such that refreshing the page with a given IP address will return largely the same list on a particular day. Otherwise their bots would have a fairl
  • The solution (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Siener ( 139990 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @04:24AM (#10457963) Homepage
    From many of the previous posts it is clear that the MPAA's explanation of "human error" is bull, so here is what we do:

    1. Anyone who administrates a web/ftp site put a fairly big random file on your site that is called >.mpg or .avi or whatever.

    2. Look at the MPAA spam flowing in

    3. Wait for the stage where the majority of the MPAA's spam is sent to people who are not actually infringing.

    4. Complain to the relevant authorities.

    PS It might be a good idea to put a disclaimer with the file so that people looking for movies don't eat up all your server bandwidth trying to download your random file. Even better configure you server to give an error when someone actually tries to downoad the file.
  • by Gentlewhisper ( 759800 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @04:24AM (#10457965)
    Now as you can see, our legal department consists of many people. After all we need a lot of man power to send out all those threathening letters.

    Now, today, Sue here has a bad day. Tomorrow it will be Janet's turn, and the day after it will be Margaret's turn. See that chart over there? Yeah.. we are pretty well organised.

    It just so happens that everybody has a bad day. And since our legal department is all women, what if they have a bad day once a month?

    These errors are just due to human errors.
  • by salimfadhley ( 565599 ) <ip@stodge.FREEBSDorg minus bsd> on Thursday October 07, 2004 @04:35AM (#10457982) Homepage Journal
    My tarpit scripts [stodge.org] are all GPL2'd for your lawbot defeating pleasure.
  • by malsdavis ( 542216 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @04:35AM (#10457984)
    "MPAA spokesman Matt Grossman denied the MPAA's system, which sends out 100,000 notices of claimed infringement on an annual basis was flawed."

    Surely if a legitimate website recieved a letter threatening leagal action when it shouldn't have then the system IS flawed regardless of whether it was a human or machine error.

    Besides ultimatly all errors are human errors (if you blame machine errors on the programmer/engineer).

  • by yaphadam097 ( 670358 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @05:07AM (#10458052)
    I suppose that BEING A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES could be construed as a form of human error.
  • by theonetruekeebler ( 60888 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @05:14AM (#10458068) Homepage Journal
    Gee whiz, this wouldn't be the same MPAA that's sued grandmothers and minors, is it? The same one that's said in Congressional hearings that there must be zero tolerance for abuse of the copyright laws, that convinced Congress to make copyright laws more perpetual and unbalanced year after year, hat claimed using a VCR is tantamount to serial rape?

    I would strongly encourage anyone who receives a wrongful takedown notice to use whatever legal means are at their disposal to punish the sender for wrongfully harassing them.

    Another post [slashdot.org] in this thread mentioned a fake warez generator tool. Perhaps the mass adoption of random filename generators would be a way of demonstrating that the MPAA is sending shotgun legal threats. To that end, I would encourage the creators of open source projects to adopt a named release policy. For example, Perl 6 could be called "Finding Nemo". Debian could rename their next distribution "Fight Club".

  • While RTFA, I thought "opportunity for google here". How about google create a new service that notifies subscribers as soon as a large file appears on a site that a googlebot happens upon?
    People like the MPAA would subscribe, save them writing their own spiders. Google could look inside zips for mpeg or other content, and users, maybe individual studios, could register various keywords such as "hero" or "manonfire" if they liked.

    Of course, google would be bound by robots.txt, whereas the MPAA will probabl
  • by rfc1394 ( 155777 ) <Paul@paul-robinson.us> on Thursday October 07, 2004 @06:48AM (#10458262) Homepage Journal
    U.S. Federal law specifies penalties for false or fraudulent takedown notices. Since these are sworn under penalty of perjury that the person who did so had a good-faith belief, this was obviously false and perjurous in nature.

    Since the MPAA thinks a $3,000 to $11,000 judgement is acceptable for someone accused of 'stealing' music, then I suppose a $3,000,000 to $11,000,000 judgement is acceptable for someone from MPAA accused of fraud and perjury. I figure MPAA is at least 1,000 times the size of the average file swapper.

    • You said "good-faith belief," which are the words that are used in the DMCA. All the MPAA has to say is that they truely thought the files were infringing. Now, does "good-faith belief" mean that they have to actually have downloaded the file and analyzed it to determine if the file is infrining? That's a tough one. I would say that the MPAA's safest bet would be to do so. Otherwise, it could be construed that they didn't go far enough in asserting their belief. The problem here is that Mr. Valenti a
  • I'm going to start sharing a video of my kid playing and title it "PlanetOfTheApes.mpg".....
  • just like my music downloads are human errors...
  • human error (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Arconaut ( 674388 )
    These things have happened before and always have been attributed to human error. The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made.
  • Madness! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Is0m0rph ( 819726 ) on Thursday October 07, 2004 @11:43AM (#10460810)
    Cars that speed themselves up, MPAA sending out false accusations, fradulent voting machines, OS/X running on an Xbox... Madness!

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