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SpikeTV "Video Game Awards" Results 85

Posted by Zonk from the so-many-ways-in-which-this-is-wrong dept.
Last night SpikeTV aired its second annual Video Game Awards. Commentary is available from the Video Game Ombudsman, who did some live blogging during the event. From his post: "Seven Awards in 50 seconds - And that's including the lame intro. and Bloodrayne's 9 second acceptance "speech" for cyber-vixen of the year. Way to stand there, BloodRayne. The categories and winners aren't even vaguely related. And these are major awards, not the largely immaterial technical awards at the Oscars. Oh well, I guess now they can squeeze in another musical number." Grimwell Online is also available for snarky analysis, as is Buttonmashing.com. For non-flash results, Voodoo Extreme has a list of the winners.
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  • With the elocution skills of Mr. Dogg: (Score:3, Funny)

    by TeleoMan ( 529859 ) on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @12:22PM (#11093063)
    DOOM TREY IN DA HIZZY!

    Word.

  • Well, it was on SpikeTV (Score:5, Funny)

    by MBraynard ( 653724 ) on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @12:23PM (#11093067) Journal
    what's their tag line? Oh yeah, "TV for immature men."

    That network is the only reason I've ever felt ashamed of having a penis. I can now empathize with the African American's feelings about Amos and Andy.

  • it sucked! The show just seemed clumsy and trying way too hard to be crass. Is there such a thing as too much hip hop? Well...YES! Next time a wider variety of music and some real fun in presenting the awards that doesn't involve so much swearing. And this is coming from someone who likes hip hop, when it's actually good that is. Snoop Dogg, you sooo disappointed me!

  • difference between VGAs and Oscars (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Jabolio ( 840541 ) on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @12:33PM (#11093213) Homepage
    The difference between these award shows and, say, the Oscars is that the actors who are accepting awards at the Oscars are people we know (not personally, for the most part), and also they can actually speak when they get up to the podium.

    On the other hand, the chumps that make video games are usually not very well known (outside of a select few, your Carmacks, your Meiers, etc...), and we as a viewing public don't really give a shit about who they are and what they have to say, because chances are they aren't going to be able to say it interestingly anyway. Just like the technical Oscars.

    On the other hand, who's the target demo for this sort of thing? Late teens and early 20's males. Let's cram as much crap as we possibly can into a couple of hours! They should just give in and not bother censoring... Anyone who'd be offended by the tripe they'll show probably isn't going to be watching anyway.

    /didn't watch it this year//watched it last year, "meh"s all around.

  • Caught a few minutes (Score:3, Funny)

    by astrokid ( 779104 ) on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @12:42PM (#11093315)
    Luckily it was when Brooke Burke was being presented the prize for Best Human Female Performance(?)

    wow. ::drool:: (At that point in time I was inclined to believe that this was the Best.Awards.Show.Ever) , however as soon as she walked off stage I changed the channel.
    • Heh, that was the 30 seconds I watched also, and as in your case, I changed the channel as soon as she walked offstage. (I think it was halftime of the Whatever The Hell It Was Bowl -- is that when you wandered over too?)

      Who is she? I've never heard of her.

  • Video Game Awards

    and

    Motley Crew

  • Grumble. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jwriney ( 16598 ) on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @12:47PM (#11093389) Homepage
    Stuff like this makes me sad. The MTV-ization of gaming culture has begun and it's not pretty. The people Spike, G4, and MTV call "gamers" are not the kids that grew up playing Nintendo; they're the kids that grew up beating up the kids that played Nintendo. This is the demographic whose entire gaming universe consists of Madden, GTA, and Tony Hawk.

    It's fake enthusiasm, style over substance, blatant product placement, EXTREME! everything bullcrap. Watch an episode of The Screen Savers on G4 if you want to know what I'm talking about. Now that the pointy-hairs have finished lobotomizing the show, the new hosts haven't figured out that reading the teleprompter VERY! ENTHUSIASTICALLY! is no substitute for knowing about or giving a damn about what they're reading. It's acutely unwatchable.

    I think I understand now how the old-school punk rockers felt when their culture got subverted by the unceasing quest for corporate profits.

    --riney

    • Re:Grumble. (Score:3, Interesting)

      by adisakp ( 705706 )
      The MTV-ization of gaming culture has begun and it's not pretty. The people Spike, G4, and MTV call "gamers" are not the kids that grew up playing Nintendo; they're the kids that grew up beating up the kids that played Nintendo.

      Home gaming is a commodity. What used to require thousands of dollars in an arcade to display primitive graphics has now been ecclipsed by inexpensive home machines for under $150 that offer compelling immersive experiences that compete with movies for your entertainment budget.

      • Re:Grumble. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Wandering Wombat ( 531833 ) <(mightyjalapeno) (at) (gmail.com)> on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @01:14PM (#11093667) Homepage Journal
        I mostly question their choice of venue... "hip hop". I mean, sure, they're trying to drive home the point that games can be cool, but you don't need to use a friggin anvil to do it. Secondly, most people in my experience who play enough video games to watch the awards most decidedly do not listen to rap music, or "urban", or whatever they're calling themselves this week. Rappists should stick with their existing, large, and vocal fanbase, and stop trying to expand and "bring deir music to da people."

        • Re:Grumble. (Score:3, Interesting)

          by adisakp ( 705706 )
          The combination of Hip hop and video games together is pretty big right now. A lot of rappers and hip hop artists are very vocal about their support for video games.

          The new GTA has a very hip hop gangsta feel and a supporting soundtrack. NBA Ballers (a 1M+ platinum seller) has MC Supernatural and is full of underground jams.

          Have you noticed the soundtrack even in Madden the last couple years has leaned more and more heavily towards "urban" music. I used to be on a team that was a Madden competitor
          • This also reflects what an acquaintance of mine calls "the blackinization of American culture." Leaving aside questions of accuracy, fidelity, respect, etc. etc., pop culture is reflecting more of an "African-American" sensibility. Most of it isn't much to my taste (read whatever racism into that you may like). Might be another example of the trends that culminated in Benny Goodman at Carnegie Hall or Elvis, or maybe it represents the end of white performers "introducing" a style to mainstream America. Eith
            • I think it's "urban", as opposed to "metropolitan". You know, white people with nice cars and cel phones and briefcases. Dey is, uh, from da hood, yo. 'n stuff.

              This goes back to another post of mine from some other article, about conformity and acceptance. People's social habits change, their clothing, mode of speech and taste in music, in response to that they are told is cool. "You are free to do as we tell you" mentality. Read whatever insensitive cloddity and racism into that as you see fit.

        • Heh. Rappists.
      • You're slightly mistaken. Considering the average age of a gamer is 29, that person did grow up playing Pac-Man. The problem is that the producers of the VGAs understand their audience and pander down to the smaller end of the gaming segment. Much like the MTV Movie Awards, it's aimed at a young group of people who accept anything force fed to them.

        It's not like it matters in the long run. Game developers as a whole are more disgusted with the show than the fans are. Getting a VGA is like your college

    • Re:Grumble. (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Servo5678 ( 468237 )
      If it were possible I'd mod your post up into triple digits. The style over substance kind of thing is the attitude that is wounding gaming today, and unfortuately it's only going to get worse. Let them have their glitzy games; I'll be having fun with my GameCube.
    • Gaming Culture??? What??? During the Nintendo days everybody was playing. Grandmas, six year olds, teenagers - everyone played Nintendo from 1988-1990.

      There is no gaming culture. People just play games.

      If your inferring that Madden, GTA, and Tony Hawk are "jock" games; that is completely stupid. I play those games and I am so far from being a jock. What kind of games must I play to be in the "gaming culture"?

      Unlike punk rock, there has never been a console game created that wasn't designed for profi
      • Well, I agree that in the end, profit is #1, BUT... I can point out that there are several companies (like nintendo) who could be making more profit if they wanted to.

        The could be publishing a new zelda and Mario every year like EA does. There has been only 2 traditional mario games released since 1994 (Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine), and before you say it - yes, they release a LOT of "spin-off" mario games. But.. they could ALSO release a lot of shitty mario game every year or the exact same fun ones wit

        • I do think a company like Nintendo does seek to do quality work and is loyal to their customers. I think a lot of that attitude is about maximizing profit because it wants to hold on to a loyal customer. Nintendo is worried about killing the brand of Mario with crappy games. So really Nintendo is trying to maximize profit in the long run.

          Look at the Tomb Raider series. They cashed in for lots of quick crappy games that were the same. Now the franchise is worthless. Nobody is waiting for the next Tom
      • Gaming Culture??? What??? During the Nintendo days everybody was playing. Grandmas, six year olds, teenagers - everyone played Nintendo from 1988-1990.

        There is no gaming culture. People just play games.

        Exactly. The gaming industry has always been divided into casual consumers and hardcore gamers. The Madden of today is the Tecmo Bowl of the 80s. 'Jock' and games targeted toward the lowest common denominator have always existed, and there's nothing inherently wrong with them (I'm totally not into sport
    • The guys at Penny Arcade [penny-arcade.com] analyzed this very subject with humor. And hitted the nail in the head, IMHO.
    • I think I understand now how the old-school punk rockers felt when their culture got subverted by the unceasing quest for corporate profits.

      As an old school punk, I'm not so sure about that. Believe it or not, punk was, at one time, just about making music. No business needed, just pick up an instrument and thrash. It wasn't even about "talent" - it was just about the need to make noise and be heard. It was pure expression of an ideal.

      Videogames have, so long as there have been consoles. ALWAYS been abou
  • Yah, I saw about 60 seconds of that bloody farce. I flipped in long enough for some bimbo to say "my goal next year is to learn to play one video game. ONE!" Then I flipped to something else.

    WTF!! How much credibility can an award have when its participants don't even partake in the art being awarded. Then again, Ashlee Simpson RECIEVED a Billboard Award so I guess a little integrity is too much to ask from awards distributors.
    • I fully agree with all of your points, with one caveat. The "Hot Girls with Cheat Codes" segement (I only saw one) was friggin' funny.

  • w0rd to your mother (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Rinisari ( 521266 ) on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @01:15PM (#11093687) Homepage Journal
    Okay, let's discuss.

    Where does rap/hip-hop have a place in video gaming? Where is that music heard? IN FOOTBALL GAMES. IN *some* DRIVING GAMES. Surprise, surprise, that's it.

    You don't see the Master Chief getting jiggy with it.
    You don't see the Price of Persia losin' his mind up in here.
    Lara Croft may take off all her clothes when it gets hot in here, but I guarantee you if Nelly tried to party it up in her, she'd embed an ounce of lead in the wall behind Nelly's formerly living body.

    Andrew WK was awesome last year. The man performed in a fucking wheelchair. That's just a part of what makes him so kickass.
    Don't give me this Snoop Dogg shit, keep him in movies and music where he belongs.
    • Just for reference, .45 ACP bullets are typically in the neighborhood of half an ounce. (Half an ounce is 218.75 grains according to Google. Federal sells defense loads in 185 and 230 grain varieties.)

      Did you mean three shots, max?

      -Peter

  • I could only watch the first 15 minutes, (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Other Than That... ( 824148 ) on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @01:44PM (#11094099)
    ...and I was in the kitchen for most of it.

    I realized that Spike TV didn't really care what they were talking about when they announced the best "human female" category, and Brooke Burke won. Now, the clips they showed of every other nominee had gameplay and voiceovers, while Brook was only shown as a sylized photograph on an menu screen - did she actually do anything but pose for the game? They had been hyping her as a guest for about a week though, which is why I'm guessing she won.

    Yeah, that and all the rappers. Everyone is trying so hard to nail down the gaming demographic, but I still don't feel included. My guess is that they've decided that since the group of people that play games is so diverse, they'll just stick to the people they've been able to so successfully trick into buying crap in the past: MTV mooks and midrifs.

    The Grimwell Online article is the best of the three by the way.

  • Actually the results werent that bad. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by AzraelKans ( 697974 ) on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @02:06PM (#11094358) Homepage
    Contrary to last years (madden game of the year, matrix goty, yuck!), the results were almost spot on. HL2 as best pc game, and GTA:SA as GOTY (instead of madden or def jaf vendetta) makes sense from a players perspective. It was a good idea to let actual viewers vote.

    A couple of surprises though, is curious and sad that Doom 3 and MGS3 didnt won a single award and is kind of cool to know that MK:deception was voted as best fighting game, halo 2 as best fps over doom 3 and hl2 (Well... if you mean by the multiplayer game I think I can agree on that) although hl2 won best pc game and best graphics (to keep balance), burnout 3 beat everyone else as a racing game (is a game about spectacular crashing cars at 200mph you have to admit is tempting). Im kind of unsure about fable but considering it wasnt competing against kotor 2 (which was delivered later in the year) its a lot better than the other nominees.
  • I whole heartedly expected GTA: SA and Halo 2 to sweep the categories. Best shooter: Halo 2? Wow, I'm glad it wasn't in the same category as HL2 or Doom 3 or Far Cry... It was simply commercialized hype for the well funded console games.
  • You can check out Tycho's version of events at Penny Arcade [penny-arcade.com], though it's an usually weak cartoon today so maybe you shouldn't bother...

  • Big EA Ad (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Blackwulf ( 34848 ) on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @02:36PM (#11094753) Homepage
    It looked to me like it was an ad for a company that creates games out of 100% Human Misery. Just about all of the "segments" had to deal with EA games or people who perform on EA Trax, and even the categories were dominated by EA. (The ones that weren't were thrown into 60 second "and other games receiving awards..." commercial bumpers.) Hell, the Best Racing Game category were three EA games, and that's it.

    Sure, other games won some of the categories, but just about all of the "segments" used EA properties or talent that appears in EA games.

    Katamari Damacy was way more addictive than the other games in that category, but since it wasn't by EA and didn't have any rap music in it, it didn't stand a chance. (Also, the "Best Soundtrack" category was won by a game that used all licensed tracks from the early 90's...It beat out games that had original soundtracks that were amazing...Great message to send to publishers!)
    • Well, that might also have to do with the fact that only 3 genres were mentioned: racing games, FPSs and RPGs. What about puzzle, strategy, sim, platformer, shooter? Heck, we should add card-based games in there too, since they're becoming so popular now.

      Even if you covered all the genres, where would Katamari Damacy fit in? I don't think there's really a place for it (except for best soundtrack). If you wanted to honor it, you'd have to give it game of the year. And it has a rainbow on the cover.
  • I think an interesting trend is the lack of games that were made in japan winning awards. Looking through the list the only one I see is metroid: zero mission.

    This really is the epitome of 'mainstream' gaming in America. I guess I finally know what it feels like to be in on something before it 'sold out'. Expect more of this.
    • It seems to me that they all wanted nothing to do with these awards. Good choice in my opinion. This awards show is a travesty to the industry, and "gamers" in general. Just look at some of the winners. The RPG winner isn't even an RPG. Mortal Kombat won for best fighting game! The whole show was product placement for whatever game a publisher paid for. Gamers everywhere died a little inside.

  • Shocked, shocked I tell you! (Score:4, Funny)

    by Pluvius ( 734915 ) <pluvius3NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Wednesday December 15, 2004 @03:11PM (#11095265) Journal
    I can't believe that this year's Spike TV Video Game Awards show was so bad; it came as a complete surprise to me. That's all I have time to say since I'm cooking something; I have to go into the kitchen and touch my stove to make sure it's still hot.

    Rob
  • I didn't actually watch it, but I like the idea of having a video game award show. Even if it's MTV in style, I think an opportunity to recognize people making games that normally wouldn't get recognized (I suppose like the technical awards in the oscars) can be a good thing. I also think it's still too "young" an awards show to take it seriously yet. But give it a few years, and it might become a "real" awards show. I remember the first MTV movie awards show, I don't think they had any celebrities even
  • ...after reading a lot of the above comments am I the only one who had to google to find out who Brooke Burke was?
  • Judging from all the comments, I guess I am glad I missed the show. However I was instead abused by involuntarily/accidentally attending what turned out to be an "Interbiz/Amway" type meeting. God help me. I grew up in the age of the Atari 2600, Intellivision and even Odyssey 2...(yikes). They should have a legacy award to honour the forebearers of today's games. Ever see the developers of Activision's "River Raid" being awarded? or how about "M.U.L.E" for the Commodore 64? Now there was an intensive gam
  • I knew that Halo 2 was going to grab first place in best FPS, beating Half-Life 2.

    For anyone who has played both games, it shouldn't have been to hard to tell which one was better. Even if you didn't think HL2 lived up to the hype, the havok physics engine had alot more uses and was much better put to use in HL2 than in Halo 2. The gameplay and AI was much better, the design was much better. And and top of that it was alot more fun. Even all the Halo 2 fans over here dropped their jaw and were quite conten

    • HL2 simply hasn't delieved yet. Oh wow gravity gun and physics? Goodie, now how about something besides deathmatch on 2 maps that aren't designed for less than 8 players? Unless you played on a private server, messing around by stacking things to block doorways or to make towers was just a waste of time since people would just tear it down. Guns? Nothing new either. The AI in HL2 is awful, I don't know where you get the idea that the HL2 AI is better considering they don't even try to get out of the way whe
  • It's the Game Developers Choice Awards. That's where you DO get to see the industry's best and brightest honor the games, and it's an awesome event. I've been to two; they're every year at the Game Developers Conference.
  • I tried to vote for half-life 2 but I couldn't understand where the fuck I was supposed to go. That flash voting site is a mess and I don't even know where the links are. Terrible layout. 0/10 See: Neopets.com, google.com for examples of clean layouts.

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