Moving Manuals Online? 36
m1cajah asks: "I've been trying to find an 'all-in-one' package for creating (and migrating to) online manuals and am having some difficulty finding what I'm looking for. I'm hoping Slashdot can help. We have a large number of manuals (designed for paper-based presentation) that suddenly need to be provided online to our customer base. Yes, the PHBs have changed the landscape on us once again. This will, once configured, be managed totally by the documentation staff and analysts (none very tech-savvy). It needs to be really easy to use because I would like to say there's a huge budget for this (as well as for training), but there isn't. Lower cost is good. Free is better.Can any of you point me to some other options?"
"Adobe PDF with a simple HTML index was suggested, is cheap, and is easily workable. Which (of course) immediately made that solution out of the question. LOL!
What we're told to produce is a 'Yahoo-like' interface with categories. Under the each of the categories they want links to the various manuals. Under each of the manuals, they want links to each individual chapter. Each chapter needs to be printable so a 'show printable version' feature would also be nice.
The manuals are just about everything you can think of - engineering specs, user manuals, manual test scripts, etc.
And 'Oh yeah...we want it version controlled also.'
So, I've found RoboHelp (seems to be some predisposed hatred for that tool...I've asked and they really don't like it), Doc-to-Help, and AuthorIT (I've used it in the past and it worked fine until you tried to deviate from the OOBE).
I've suggested some PHP content management servers like Typo3, the various Nukes, etc. No go. I can't implement anything that does not work directly with IIS6 and the .NET framework (don't shoot me...I didn't pick the software!). There would be some vitriolic blowback if we implemented PHP, Perl, and/or Python. Oracle and SQLServer are the only options for the DB backends (if needed...we have both).
Sharepoint Portal Server might be possible (but the PHBs don't like the cost) because the content could be stored and version controlled with WebDAV (or integrated with Visual SourceSafe).
Please help!"
Wiki! (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Wiki! (Score:3, Informative)
Here's what I would do... (Score:4, Funny)
I keep a Word Doc, PDF, HTML and plain text version. The manual update is a small hassle, and converting a formatted doc to a plain text version is annoying.
Oh, and many places require you to submit a Cover Letter as a Word Doc attachment in your email. I know it sounds lame, but it's helpful to have a word and plain text version of the same text.
Honestly... (Score:2)
And assign a part-time or full-time person, depending on the total volume, to manage a simple, minimal website.
i like this style (Score:3, Interesting)
Make a webpage something like this [esri.com]
I use this site all the time to look up little arcane tidbits of info, and it's really usable.
Re:i like this style (Score:2)
Uhmm... (Score:2)
Sounds like you should just whip up a web-site with some pdf-files. Not a perfect solution, but certainly the cheapest...
Re:Uhmm... (Score:2)
"Adobe PDF with a simple HTML index was suggested, is cheap, and is easily workable. Which (of course) immediately made that solution out of the question. LOL!"
Re:Uhmm... (Score:1)
"Adobe PDF with a simple HTML index was suggested, is cheap, and is easily workable. Which (of course) immediately made that solution out of the question. LOL!"
It's not "LOL", it's sad. You should (of course) get out from under these retards. Seriously. Tell me why you shouldn't. The PDF/HTML angle makes the most sense given what little info you've provided about your situation. If your PHBs don't see that/can't be persuaded of that, then why are you still working for them? Unless ther
Make PDF's free (Score:2)
Try harder to get PDFs (Score:3, Insightful)
I would recommend this: Transfer the print versions of the manuals to PDF, like you originally suggested. Try to convince your boss to try this, and see how your customers like it. Since PDFing the print manuals is same thing that everyone else does, your customers will be expecting it and will already be used to it. (Play up the "no user training" angle.)
Speaking as someone who has had to look up manuals for all sorts of odd standards and parts online, I always find a PDF to be the best thing: You can save a PDF to your hard drive. When printed, it always looks the same, no weird printing anomalies. You can bookmark a PDF's online location very easily. All of these things may or may not be true of a "Yahoo-like interface with categories".
And one other thing: That "Show printable version" thing that you'd still have to have with the Yahoo-like interface: Most likely, that would be the PDF that you want to generate in the first place!
If you can't convince your boss to go for just the PDFs, try to convince him of a phased deployment: put the PDFs online now, because they're basically already done. THEN start on designing whatever fancy system they're looking for. Eventually, there will be a time to choose "what we have now, for free, vs. this fancy thing, for $$$". Hopefully, they'll choose what they already have.
One little detail (Score:5, Informative)
In any case, you're certainly going to have to scale back your expectations. It's easy enough to set up an a fancy CMS that will deliver nicely structured web-based manuals. But you've got to get your manuals into the CMS!!!!.
It's a safe bet that your current documentation base is a collection of word processor and graphics files -- Microsoft Word, FrameMaker, Visio, various Adobe formats. Getting these unstructured formats into the sort of simple, clean online CMS your talking about is a big effort. And that conversion has to be done by carbon-based units -- there's simply no technology to do it automatically. (There's various forms of software snakeoil that claims otherwise -- but it's pure bullshit. AI isn't that advanced!) Unless your management is a lot more open to spending money than they appear to be, it's not going to happen.
Which is not to say that you can't convert your documents into web pages. That's actually pretty easy, since all the abovementioned programs have some kind of HTML export. Just one problem: the HTML you create will be at least as messy as the original documents. You can put it online, add a search engine, and have a document base your customers will find very useful. But it'll never be the fancy, clean CMS-driven web site your management is hoping for.
(If most of your documents are in unstructured FrameMaker format, I strongly recommend using the full version of WebWorks Publisher [webworks.com] instead of the limited version that ships with FrameMaker. And there's a version for Word that works rather better than Word's own HTML export feature. WWP has nice table-driven transformation macros that eliminate a lot of work and messiness. Not all of it, alas.)
And if none of your tech writers are tech-literate enough for you, you might consider hiring one who is. (I'm available!) Though you should also consider whether there aren't some two-way communications issues with your tech writing team. There usually is.
Re:One little detail (Score:1)
Re:One little detail (Score:3, Insightful)
You can certainly make it happen -- but I'd forget about "elegantly".
Your big problem is convincing your management that you're not just indulging in simple foot dragging. So you need evidence that's harder to argue with than anything you have. Like metrics.
Consider some kind of pilot project. Pick a manual, make a plan for converting it into a set of those "Yahoo-like" web pages they're
Doc Source (Score:1)
wiki's, doc generation tools (Score:3, Informative)
Depending on what kind of documentation you are talking about putting online, you may want to look at ways to generate it as opposed to converting it. In other words, this could be an opportunity to improve your documentation or reduce the costs of generating it. You may want to look into tools like javadoc or doxygen [stack.nl].
Personally, and this is just an opinion, I think that pdfs are a completely inappropriate format for conveying information over the web. There are really only a few reasons to use pdfs on the web:
- You want to save money at the expense of ease of use for customers and you are already invested in pdfs.
- You want to provide a big document that can be downloaded and printed off all at once (I never want this out of online documentation).
- You need to have everything look the same everywhere.
Otherwise, you're better off with online documentation that is written in the language of the web. It's stylistically and semantically consistent. It loads fast. No special software is required. It has the illusion of being more dynamic (read up-to-date) whether or not it actually is.PHB's strike again. (Score:4, Informative)
Personally, I'd tell them that there is no current alternative that will suit all their requirements, and perhaps they should consider the simple PDF/HTML setup as an interim step.
Suggest that perhaps after a 6/12 month bedding-in period, they would then have a good idea of what is needed and then they could head on down the track to something that is suitable for everyone.
Phrase it in lots of PHB-speak though. Something like "aggregate time-based usability heuristic analysis" sounds good. Mention that it would be costly (both in $ and man-hours wasted) to barge off in some direction, any direction, just for the sake of having an online document repository **right now**. Don't be obstructive about it, try and present yourself as the cool head of reason.
Later, in the real world, logs could be analysed as to how people go about accessing the docs.
Eg. Perhaps people would prefer to get the whole manual rather than chapter-by-chapter, especially if your documentation is a little... scattered,with references to other chapters/pages/ etc.
Ektron's OK. (Score:2)
http://www.ektron.com/ [ektron.com]
It's not great, but it's better than a lot of other crappy Windows-Instant-Intranet products, and it costs less than many of them.
Nice place to work, by the way. "We'd like it free, but if you suggest using any of the best tools available for the job, free or otherwise, we're going to give you a faceful of vitriolic blowback, mmmkay? We know what kind of problems these 'free soft
Solution! (Score:1)
Then, deliver all your companies manuals on CDROM media to customers through the pneumatic shuttle in the tube, or by barge on the canal.
DocBook (Score:1)
Re:DocBook (Score:1)
Is it difficult to use? What about version control?
How about Omnipage? (Score:4, Informative)
Who and what is this documentation for? (Score:1, Offtopic)
Programmers? Engineers? Diesel mechanics? Consumers?
Why not Sharepoint Services? (Score:1)
It has WebDAV versioning, and document libraries already setup (kind of, you will most likely want to write your own.) The development is in
Re:Why not Sharepoint Services? (Score:1)
Apparently there are security issues we'll have to deal with. Our customer is outside our firewalls and getting "holes punched" for their access is extremely difficult at best. Hosting it outside our firewalls provides the same difficulty...they don't want to punch holes for our teams to access. Fun huh?
I've used SPS, the whole portal, and even worked at one place where MS Content Management Server, SPS, etc. were
Bad Blue (Score:2, Interesting)
You keep the files as they are, and Bad Blue automatically indexes them for full text searching (supports Word, Excel and Access) and also has web listings of the files, in a portal like format.
And best of all, it's not free!
Another siimilar alternative is to use the content indexing with Microsoft Windows Server, which has more support for different file types (pdf, ppt, etc.). In conjunction
ReWorx (Score:2)
http://www.republicorp.com/reworx.htm
XML and a Stylesheet (Score:1)
Scan the docs, convert from OCR/rtf to plain text. Format in XML, using a one-time exectuted, well-thought out DTD. After that, migrating the material to text, print, web, pdf, or anything else, is trivial. One source - any output. The way to go. That's what our little company does. We do military manuals. Heavy DTD, though. Most folks won't need the detail.
TextPad, on a PC, or any java-based editor, will do all the grunt work. Companies in India have the outsourced market for this kind of work pretty well
Docushare is cool, but try OWL instead (Score:2)
XML (Score:2)
cheap, good, fast (Score:2)
I suggest you look at documentum [documentum.com] and try and figure out a wish list for the management system. Then you go
manual.txt (Score:1)