Hitchhiker's Guide Reviewed 539
me at werk writes "The Register has posted it's review of h2g2. 'The radio series, that became a book, that became a TV series, has finally made it to the silver screen. The film version of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is faithful to author Douglas Adams' legacy. The trouble is it's simply not especially funny.'"
My review (Score:5, Informative)
Don't know why...
Re:My review (Score:5, Funny)
STAY AFTER CREDITS!!!! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:My review (Score:5, Insightful)
As for the movie itself, it really is quite good. The casting is wonderful, especially the man they got to play Zaphod. And the bits where the Guide is used are truly great.
The movie wasn't really all that funny towards the end, but neither was the book so I can't complain on that note.
Yes, Zaphod is supposed to seem Stupid (Score:5, Informative)
What the hell was with John Malkovich? Why was that scene there at all? It did nothing to advance the plot and was not in the book that I remember reading.
He was a Jatravartid. The narrator pretty much read the first chapter of The Restaurant at the End of the Universe including the whole "in the beginning the Universe was created" bit. (I thought the Ah-choo; Bless You line was hilarious.) They obviously wanted to draw on that background matierial to create a new location and background to create an alternate plot. (Every version of H2G2 has a slightly different plot.) Of course you don't know that the whole gun thing does come into the plot in a very funny moment involving Marvin, but you wouldn't know that because you walked out of the #$@!%@ movie.
I've heard stories about people walking out of movies. I really have to question their ability to enjoy life.
Re:Yes, Zaphod is supposed to seem Stupid (Score:3, Insightful)
I know _WHO_ he was supposed to be. a) It was not funny. b) It did not fit into the plot of the first book. c) It was a fucking brief and off handed reference even when it did come in to play in Restaurant.
Hehe, I love reading these anti-reviews. I thought the movie was great. I have no idea why ANYONE thought it was remotel
Re:Yes, Zaphod is supposed to seem Stupid (Score:3, Interesting)
Most important of all, however, is that just because Adams wrote it does not make it funny or a good idea. Adams had a lot of bad ideas- most were discarded before being thrown in an audiences face. Unfortunately I believe Adams died before he could cull that scene or before he could rewrite it to make it interesting.
The radio series was brilliant. T
That behaviour is unacceptable (Score:4, Insightful)
What are you, a Vogon?
You DO NOT RATE SOMETHING YOU HAVE NOT ACTUALLY SEEN!
Sheesh.
And BTW, there is a wonderfully hilarious moment near the end that had the Douglas Adams feel to it to an incredible degree, and you MISSED it! Don't call yourself a fan: you aren't. You're a curmudgeon, and you need to take a drink, relax, and be less callous and bad tempered.
Re:My review (Score:5, Interesting)
Yes, the movie is different from the book. The book was different from the radio series. The infocom game was different from all of these. The only things that Douglas Adams wanted to remain True is that The Guide itself is there for narration and asides, and that Arthur is the quintissential british anti-hero. Aside from those, he couldn't care less as long as it made a decent story.
So if you are going in demanding that they make a retelling of the book, then yes, you are better off staying at home. If you want to see a different look on this amazing world that Adams has created (with help from Jim Henson's Creature Shop and it does indeed show if you look) and maybe get a couple of chuckles, then it may be worth seeing the movie. Oh... and if you actually enjoy enjoying movies, do not, I repeat DO NOT read reviews before going to see the movie. Most reviews seem to be done by people who are just bitter that they couldn't actually make it into the business themselves. Having read those reviews the feeling carries with you into the viewing.
Re:My review (Score:4, Insightful)
"So-LONG-so-LONG-so-LONG and thanks... for all the fiiiiiiish!"
Dear God I'm so depressed.
Re:IMDB (Score:3, Insightful)
If you are going to make a movie called "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", you damn well better at least capture the spirit of the original work.
It would have been nice if the movie could have slowed down to explain why a space traveller should keep his towel handy, rather then just make it seem like a strange fettish of Ford's, and later justify its presence by using it as a sort
Re:My review (Score:2)
Re:My review (Score:3, Insightful)
Making movies enjoyable again (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't know how many times this has happened to me. People that love the book/comic book/whatever that a movie is based on slam the movie so much that I start to believe them a little. If I do end up going to see it, I usually end up loving it. But if a movie is hyped and hyped and hyped (I'm talking grassroots hyping here... I've pretty much learned to ignore
Re:My review (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=srmr&page=title &r=ABCD&title=142571 [play.com]
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=srmr&page=title &r=ABCD&title=142570 [play.com]
Well... (Score:2)
For me, the big turn off is Marvin. That does NOT look like what I expected him to.
So, should I suck it up and watch it, and risk being dissapointed and bored for 2 hours, or not? If I do enjoy it, I will probably end up loosing another week of my life reading the books again.
Better with the books (Score:3, Interesting)
I love the sound effect tie-ins too, watch for the bread knife and it's upcoming George Lucas prequel.
-Matt
Re:Better with the books (Score:3, Insightful)
As I saw it put elsewhere, "Hey, Peter! I've got a great idea! Let's leave the Balrog out of the movie!"
Fuck Disney. Everyone involved in taking this marvelous quirky story and turning it into a fucking Galaxy Quest clone needs to be skullfucked to death.
Re:Better with the books (Score:5, Insightful)
As expected, I didn't see ALL the gags from the book, but I'm happy to say at least they cut the less funny ones instead of the good ones. You can't really expect everything from the book to be in the movie. As you know, I'm sure, a great deal of the book's charm is in the wording of the narration. Converting the narration's humour to movie format without over narrating is definitely hard, and I for one think they did a great job.
I will agree, however, that I didn't expect Marvin to look that way. I also didn't expect Zaphod to look that way either, but his character was great!
Also, in the credits, the BBC is thanked for providing the original Marvin suit from the TV series. I haven't watched the series yet, but is that how Marvin looked? That could be a good explanation.
Anyway.. there were differences from the book, but they were well done. For example, Ford showing up at the beginning with a cart full of beer. At first I was worried the pub scene would be cut, but it wasn't, and it tied in well! I actually preferred how this scene played out.
Sadly, they DID cut out the Narrator's explanation of how Ford picked his name.. BUT they still managed to fit in how Ford thought cars were the dominant species of earth. Precious!
Overall, the movie is pretty damn close to the book. The changes are warranted, and still pretty damn funny. On the down side, I can see how a lot of the plot and humour would be harder to catch if you hadn't read the book(s).
I still give it 3 thumbs up.
Re:Better with the books (Score:3, Interesting)
Also a huge scanned image of Douglas Adam's head was one of the planets they were making.
Re:Better with the books (Score:3, Informative)
It's the robot standing in line on Vogosphere.
Re:Better with the books (Score:3, Insightful)
With every film made after a comic, a book
I just ignore these people, and go see it for myself... I usually end up
Re:Well... (Score:3, Insightful)
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://w w w.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/gallery_photos/hitchhike rs_cast_gal.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.scifi.com/sci fiwire2005/index.php%3Fcategory%3D10%26id%3D122&h= [google.co.uk]
Re:Well... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Well... (Score:2)
However nothing is disuading me from my belife that the other costumes look like those of a jedi .
Re:Well... (Score:3, Funny)
This is what i get being home-sick a large ammount of TaypOs,
Dee'ing things i DONt normaly do , Goodness there are alot i can work into one paragraph .
Re:Well... (Score:5, Interesting)
Watching the previews, Marvin was my biggest concern. That concern ended up not panning out,,, he fit in pretty well. I'd say just put aside your preconceptions and go watch a movie. There are enough of the little things added that only a Hitchiker's afficiondo would appreciate to make it worth your time. Just don't get stuck up in the "Well, they did it different in the book" trap. This is alot easier to do if you realize that Douglas Adams never intended for previous works to be Canon. He's just telling a story. It has to be altered a bit here and there to allow for different mediums, so while some of the old gems are lost, new things show up.
Synopsis sans spoiler: while I didn't bust a gut laughing, I did laugh out loud in the theatre. That's alot more than I can say for just about any other "comedy" I've seen in a while.
I'm glad things are different (Score:4, Insightful)
Why the need for a movie? (Score:2, Insightful)
Personally, I'll be continuing to watch the TV episodes myself. Modern 'movie magic' really can't do much for this.
Re:Why the need for a movie? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Why the need for a movie? (Score:4, Interesting)
believe it or not, but there are some people who did not grow up reading books. there are a generation or two, or three, of people who do not read books.
these people go to movies.
should the story be inaccessible to them?
making a movie about a book, might prompt people to read the book. believe it or not, but this does actually happen. people see movies, they hear that it was based on a book, and then
translating one form of literary culture into another form, is usually a good way to spread that culture. don't you agree?
oh, wait. you're one of those self-ism types, for whom the idealization of the self is all there is. your self, having read the book, can't possibly think of why there is any reason whatsoever to contribute to another cultural form.
next time you see a 9 year old, ask them if they know the answer to life, the universe, and everything.. you might get a kick out of the answer.
Re:Why the need for a movie? (Score:2)
"video killed the radio star" a long time ago
ashridah
Generation? (Score:5, Insightful)
As there has always been.
there are a generation or two, or three, of people who do not read books.
No. If anything, books seem to be on a rebound. Twenty years ago outside of big cities the only bookstore one would likely find would be a Waldenbooks mostly selling Garfield comics. Now you can hardly throw a stone and not hit a Borders or a Barnes and Noble. And they really sell some stuff for literati -- stuff like the Loeb and I Tatti Libraries can actually be found in the sticks these days. And of course there's the bookseller Amazon.com. practically the only dot-com that didn't go belly up...
Re:Why the need for a movie? (Score:3, Insightful)
Put simply - Yes. Fuck 'em. If they won't take the time to pick up a book and read the story, why should they have access to it?
And I don't mean this as a troll... The biggest complaint I see in this thread involves how poorly DA's British, intellectual, subtle style of humor, translates to the big screen. This very consistently happens with productions of de
Re:Why the need for a movie? (Score:3, Interesting)
This movie should have been made for FANS only.
Re:Why the need for a movie? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Why the need for a movie? (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes, actually. A movie can spoil a book you've previously read. A movie presents powerful images that are difficult to un-see. If I re-read Hitchhiker's and I find that I'm hearing Douglas Adams' writing in Stephen Fry's voice, then that is definitely a negative. Worst voice of guide, ever (mainly if you're British).
Reviews don't matter here (Score:5, Insightful)
I hope to see it this weekend and, as long as it's about as good as the TV version (which I wasn't a fan of), I'll be happy I guess.
Of course, if it's slapstick city I may have real trouble taking it and will feel cheated of my tenner!
Hope I'm spoiling anything (Score:3, Funny)
It's SlapStick Planet, actually, and literally so!
Just a thought...ooow!
contradiction (Score:5, Insightful)
One of the main things I enjoy about Douglas Adams works is the humor
To be faithfull to his legacy i would say that you need to capture the "Funny" parts aswell as the other aspects , and the humor is pretty much one of the main aspects .
I always knew... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:contradiction (Score:5, Informative)
One of the main things I enjoy about Douglas Adams works is the humor.
Well, the 'not all that funny' criticism falls into two categories:
1) Removed jokes, for instance the planning permission on the bottom of a filing cabinet in a locked underground toilet with a sign saying 'beware of the leopard' on the door. This is justifiable in a way; it simply wouldn't be practical to put everything from the books into the film.
2) Dry humour delivered in silence. For instance, 'do you know how much damage would be caused to this bulldozer if I let it run over you? / No / None at all'. It's funny. But no-one is laughing. I don't know how to fix that; it might be a problem with the film medium for this type of humour. A laughter track, for instance, would be shite.
Soooooooo.... what's my opinion? Well, it's a competently made movie. It's well cast, it has decent graphics, it has it's amusing moments. I would classify it as 'ok to good'. I would have classified the book as 'good to very good, tending towards the latter'. So no, I didn't think it was as good as the book, but it was ok. Nothing like as bad as that first review on slashdot made out.
7 out of 10 from me.
Michael
Re:contradiction (Score:5, Interesting)
Story telling is exactly what movies are supposed to be about, and long winding asides is exactly what movies aren't supposed to be about.
My point is, the books are funny in a way that movies can't be funny, and the books are only marginally funny at that. Douglas usually gets 5 or 6 REALLY good jokes in per book and the rest is pretty marginal -- it works becuase the book gets you on a roll which lightents your expectations -- which the movie never did.
I think the movie did an excellent job of bringing material not suitable for film -- to film. That being said, the delivery of the jokes was simply off, as you say. They spoke much too deliberately -- you can't deliver quick witted comments slowly.
Re:contradiction (Score:5, Informative)
Dirk Gently is still funny, has less of the absurdist asides, has a plot, and one that is funny in its own right, has a bit of character development, and even inspires the occasional emotion apart from humour in the reader. And I like some Coleridge's poetry too
Re:contradiction (Score:2)
Although, I'm not sure who I would trust to finish it off.
Of the sig: very appropriate, given that H2G2 is a trilogy in 5 parts (which would probably have been better left as a 4-parter)
Re:contradiction (Score:2)
I always assumed the "Trilogy in 5 Parts" came from clueless publishing houses who, not having bothered to read the first three
Re:contradiction (Score:2)
I'll bet he wouldn't have looked very dignified if he'd held the pose much longer and the laptop had fried his wedding tackle [bbc.co.uk].
Re:contradiction (Score:2)
Re:contradiction (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:contradiction (Score:2)
Everything was perfect, from the delivery of jokes, to the Guide's long-winding asides (which worked out really well
Re:contradiction (Score:2)
Re:contradiction (Score:2, Interesting)
I've read the books enough times that I don't get the same experience as I did the first time around. That happens. The jokes stop being as funny as before, the more times you hear/see/read them.
I saw this at this past Monday's preview, and thought it was great. Much better than the BBC production, but not as good as the books.
It was m
Hope for the best, but... (Score:2, Insightful)
Reviews Mostly Positive (Score:5, Informative)
Currently 62% positive
Re:Reviews Mostly Positive (Score:2)
Re:Reviews Mostly Positive (Score:3, Funny)
So, in other words, the reviews are Mostly Harmless?
book to movie (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:book to movie (Score:2)
The Douglas Adams I remember went off on tangents and that was his legacy. If the director or screenwriter cuts that out it will not be as good. Period.
The lord of the rings trilogy was great because it let the story carry the movie and the director consiously tried to be faithfull to the readers and include everything he could
Saw it Friday (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Saw it Friday (Score:2, Insightful)
I love the movie! (Score:5, Informative)
I've enjoyed the other versions, and so I found it very simple to enjoy the new version.
They must make four sequels.
P.S. Bring a pair of "red and blue" 3D glasses. As the starship Heart of Gold arrives at the planet Magrathea, the crew is greeted by a holographic recording. That recording is only a minute long; however, it's in 3D. You need a pair of "red and blue" 3D glasses in order to properly enjoy that minute of film. This is not a spoiler; it's an enhancer.
Re:I love the movie! (Score:2)
That's actually Simon Jones, who plays Arthur Dent in the radio series and also starred as him in the television series.
I enjoyed his cameo immensely (possibl
The Humor in HGTTG (Score:2)
Is it just me, or does that not carry over especially well into film?
Cameos (Score:2, Interesting)
Moderate: Unfunny (Score:5, Interesting)
Whats interesting is that the movie does have some of the funniest scenes from the book, but those scenes just don't work. Partly because the persectives are different. Being inside the head of a newly born whale as it plummets to earth is funny, but watching a graphic of it hit the ground isn't funny.
Other things were just poorly done, for example, the babble fish. They actually do cut to the Guide to explain what a babblefish does, but totally skip the part about God disappearing in a puff of logic. So the scene is not funny at all save maybe a little slapstick about putting a fish in Authur's ear.
Sadly, this movie is exactly what you expect from Hollywood doing a foriegn movie, dumbed down to the point of irrelevance.
Re:Moderate: Unfunny (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Moderate: Unfunny (Score:2)
If the "God disappearing in a puff of logic" part weren't deleted, the movie might not have its G rating
What possible bearing on the rating could that line have on the rating? Is "puff" a swear word or something?
Re:Moderate: Unfunny (Score:2)
America's religious right are very touchy about Creationism vs. Evolutionism.
Having God disappear in a puff of logic is just rubbing salt in the wound.
There's a IRC chat in bash.org [bash.org], where a guy got fired for accidently putting Bibles in the fiction section.
Re:Moderate: Unfunny (Score:2)
Re:Moderate: Unfunny (Score:5, Insightful)
Hm. The only thing I could find was this:
i got kicked out of barnes and noble once for moving all the bibles into the fiction section
I'd be pissed and kick him out too. Do you know how much extra work that makes for the employees, who have better shit to do than clean up after someone trying to be "clever"?
I had to go and search for myself, because your version sounded highly unlikely. In most bookstores, Bibles get their very own (rather large) section - there's no way an employee could accidentally put them in fiction any more than they could accidentally put a dictionary in fiction.
Re:Moderate: Unfunny (Score:3, Insightful)
Oddly enough, people trying to make an Important Social Statement never seem to actually think about the people they're supposed to be sticking up for. Kind of like all those anti-trade protestors who trash McDonald's restaurants, not considering that they mainly just screwed over the employees, who wouldn't be working there if they didn't really need the money.
Re:Moderate: Unfunny (Score:3, Insightful)
So because some people who wouldn't know funny if it hit them over the head think that the film is thrusting Aethism down thier throat with a 30 second bit of humor then we should remove one of the most intellectually amusing parts of the story?
Sigh. Why can't people just grow the fuck up and learn to laugh at themselves sometimes.
Re:Moderate: Unfunny (Score:2)
So I don't know about all that "introducing a generation" stuff.
I've just seen it last night (Score:4, Insightful)
Good points, marvin was spectacular and outdid the original TV series' version. Zaphod Beeblebrox was outstanding and the true extent of his ego bleeds off the screen (flamebait comment, to be honest I think only an American could pull off the cheesy grin and un-abashed ego... sorry
Bad points are I'm a bit hmmmm about Ford, Trillian and Arthur though. Ford really didnt create any sort of major screen prescence and as such became a rather minor character with a penchant for towels. Trillian, whilst great at the start of the film, seamed to get relegeted to damsel in distress/love interest (standard hollywood crap). And Arthur... well hes was quite good for most of the film but I suppose I miss the orginal TV version which sticks in my mind as the definative Arthur Dent.
I suppose the worst aspect of the film is that yes, some of the great witty dialogue is missing. Its not all gone but a lot of the classic lines are trimmed. I quite missed the original lines regarding the babel fish proveing that god did not exist and the very funny bit about the plans being on display (the shortend "I had to go downstairs", made no sense on screen).
In all I would recommend people go see it, it gets a bit shakey before the middle but still provides a good homage to Adams' legacy.
No tea. (Score:2)
If it were 100% faithfully sync'd with the books; there would be little point it seeing it if you had read them.
The pacing was good, the dialog enough to tell a story, and the visuals fantastic. I think it stand well enough on it's own; and as an addition to the books.
Folks like this is why there may never be an 'Ender's Game' movie, because someone will complai
Re:No tea. (Score:2)
You know what, though? Fuckem. They're the same people who, with something like 10-12 unique hours of Lord of the Rings trilogy available on DVD, complain about how several Ents were left out or condensed into a revised Treebeard. They're the ones who want a 15-hour movie that's paced like a snail just so that no detail is ever missed. They'll always exist. T
Angst does not go well with Hitchhiker's (Score:5, Insightful)
The other problem is Ford Prefect, Mr. Sarcasm in the originals is practically a non-entity and not especially funny when he does exist.
I loved Zaphod though
Re:Angst does not go well with Hitchhiker's (Score:2)
Do I belong on this planet myself? (Score:2, Interesting)
Why does it seem like I'm the only one that thought the playing up of Arthur and Trillian's romance was ridiculous? Why does Trillian have an American accent? Why... why... why...
Yes, I probably sound like just another rabid Adams fanboy who expected the movie to be a direct copy of the book. That isn't the case. I thought the film was awful. The acting was not very good, some of the revised dialog was really awkward, and... many other things simply related to the filmmaking itsel
Re:Do I belong on this planet myself? (Score:2)
The romance though.... *groaaaaaaaaannnn*
When it said "For Douglas" at the end... and we just saw his face as the last transformation of the heart of gold when going into infinite improbability drive... I just was thinking this isn't much of a tribute... and if anything,
Re:Do I belong on this planet myself? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Do I belong on this planet myself? (Score:2, Interesting)
Another point is DNA was also the one who added the idea to have a Trillian/Arthur romance.
That info was all from the answers from Robbie Stamp, posted a few days ago on
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/26/195224 8&tid=97&tid=133&tid=214 [slashdot.org]
Re:Do I belong on this planet myself? (Score:2)
Funny book - dull film per se. (Score:2, Insightful)
Just saw it tonight (Score:2)
Why must every movie have a love story? Is it a rule somewhere that people will not see a movie if there's no love story subplot?
Anyway, the funniest part was milking the cow... but I'm not going to spoil the joke for anyone who hasn't seen it.
When the movie was near the end... I was just thinking, "That's it?" It felt like it should have been much longer... there's so much that was in the miniseries and books that wasn't in the movie... I want a sequel made now... but I
Hitchhiker's biggest shortcoming (Score:2)
I mean good lord, Ford is carrying around a towel all the time and telling Arthur to make sure he has his towel with him... but the movie never explains to the audience why the towels are so important!
The first thirty minutes is really the most difficult as well, because they really tried to wow the audience with a strong, fast-paced opening... the problem is th
The movie sucked (Score:2)
The books were awesome, but the movie sucked. They took the books and used it as a loose guide for various events in the movie. None of the dialog from the book survived. The acting was poor. The special effects were good. The pacing was rushed. Everything was glued together rather poorly.
You can tell that the people creating the movie had good intentions -- they wanted to cram many bits from the book into the movie. The problem is that they wanted to do it s
Beer? (Score:2)
Wait, if Ford walks up to Prosser et. al. with a shopping cart full of beer, what's the point of taking Arthur away to the pub in the first place? They could have just thrown back a couple of beers as muscle relaxant right then and there and avoided the whole "let's confuse Prosser" bit altogether.
I can't understand the negative reviews... (Score:2)
This wasn't the case at all! We all found the movie to be exceptionally well done, and the entire theatre was laughing consistently throughout the film. The special effects were very well done, the jokes captured Adams' humour well and stayed faily true to the book, and I could muster up no
Enjoyment == Mindset. (Score:2)
Loved the movie, though I never read the books (Score:5, Interesting)
I bring this up because it seems most everyone else here has gotten intimate with HGG in some form or another, so I thought I would provide some insight into the reaction of someone who saw the movie with no previous knowledge of what this thing was all about.
I was so eager to see HGG, I got to the theatre 45 minutes early last night to ensure good seating. I will say it simplye: the movie did NOT disappoint. Funny? Absolutely! There is a lot of silly humor, mainly in the forms of irony and cynicism. Many, many times throughout the movie, the entire theatre was laughing out loud together. I'm not sure who all in the theatre was familiar with the HGG story, everyone there from the 8-year-old kid to the 80-year-old grandparent gave it a unanimous thumbs up. I am actually thinking of going to see this thing again today, it was such a joy to watch the first time! I also just picked the literature from half.com.
Re:It is another example... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:This movie is bad (Score:2, Funny)
Re:This movie is bad (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:This movie is bad (Score:2)
Re:Meh. If its really not funny .. (Score:2)
By buying the DVD you are most certainly succembing to mob think, in that you are still only watching it because everyone else is, and not because its actually good and worth the money.
Re:Meh. If its really not funny .. (Score:2)
Believe me, with this movie you won't be laughing. And the crowd won't let out much more than a chuckle.
Re:Meh. If its really not funny .. (Score:2)
Re:Novelty (Score:2)
(no I don't)
Re:Out of a possible score of 100... (Score:2)