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Morpheus is Dead 145

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MTV Games is reporting that the latest live event in the Matrix Online has permenantly changed the topology of The Matrix: Morpheus is dead. From the article: "Morpheus' demise was not without controversy. In the days leading up to it, the developers' live team, who orchestrate the game's big monthly story-advancing moments, carried out a Wachowski-Chadwick plot that had Morpheus, in the words of some users, 'turning terrorist.' According to storyline, Morpheus wanted to reclaim the body of the fallen Neo, which was being held by the Matrix's machine overlords. Morpheus tried to pressure cooperation by planting bombs throughout the Matrix infrastructure."
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  • wow, confusing (Score:3, Funny)

    by Leroy_Brown242 ( 683141 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:14PM (#12649094) Homepage Journal
    Having just woken from a nap, that was all very confusing. I kept thinking, "They're making another movie?!". I should just go back to sleep.
  • Seeing as Morpheus is the father figure of the Matrix - the Obi Wan or the Professor X if you will - I'd say they've taken a big risk with this. Or at least they would have if it had much a future in the cinema.

    WHat now? Neo dead? Morpheus dead? Surely this isn't just to reduce possible royalties, etc., ? Ghost and Niobe are good but not *lead character* good.

  • I thought humans and machines have settled after Neo gave his life to help the machines counter Agent Smith threat to the system in that lousy last movie.

    what's going on that Morpheus is ( was ) still making war with the machines?

    ah, i see. without war, it isn't very compelling a product, is it?

  • Comment removed (Score:4, Funny)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:20PM (#12649157)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  • Not Sandman (Score:5, Funny)

    by RotJ ( 771744 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:25PM (#12649199) Journal
    When I read the headline, I went "Duh. Morpheus died because Lyta Hall swore vengeance upon him after the Maiden-Mother-Crone Triple Goddess led her to believe that he took her son Daniel away from her. And after Morpheus's death, the dream-child Daniel transformed into the new manifestation of the Dream King."

    And then I realized it was about the Matrix.
    • Mod parent up.

      If the Wachowskis are still making references to everything under the sun, we might be able to figure out what happens next. Is there a Daniel somewhere?

      • Re:Not Sandman (Score:3, Interesting)

        by tmhsiao ( 47750 )
        In the Enter the Matrix game, when you summon all the ships for the meeting that takes place at the beginning of Reloaded, you leave a message on a answering machine with Laurence Fishburne saying "You have reached the Daniel Institute of Dream Interpretation."

        Which was kind of neat.

        Kind of.
        • The Wachowskis probably didn't take the reference from Sandman, since Gaiman himself probably chose the name as a reference to the bibilcal Daniel, who was famous for his ability to interpret dreams. See here [lyberty.com] and here [wikipedia.org] for more information.

          When that writer lady accused J.K. Rowling of stealing the idea of Harry Potter from her books, either she or the media made note of the similarities between Potter and Neil Gaiman's Tim Hunter character from Books of Magic, such as the spectacled brown-hair look and the
    • My Goddess, if you were female, I think I'd have to say, "You really are the perfect woman."

  • Is the crappy P2P service dead too? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Dwedit ( 232252 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:26PM (#12649208) Homepage
    Is the crappy P2P service dead too?

    • Maybe (Score:2, Insightful)

      by antizeus ( 47491 )
      I haven't noticed any Morpheus nodes connecting to mine lately, so it might be gone. Good riddance, too. I frequently got lots of false results from Morpheus (and Gnucleus) nodes. It seems that the morons who wrote it figured that matching a single word of a multiple word query was good enough. I actually modified my program to drop all results with a Morpheus (or Gnucleus) vendor string.

      • It seems that the morons who wrote [Gnucleus] figured that matching a single word of a multiple word query was good enough.

        There is precedent: phpBB search uses "OR" logic by default.

        I actually modified my program to drop all results with a Morpheus (or Gnucleus) vendor string.

        OK, now what do you do if the file you want is being released by somebody who uses Gnucleus?

        • There is precedent: phpBB search uses "OR" logic by default.
          That's no excuse. Just because one program does something stupid, that doesn't mean a second one should do the same. If I wanted to search for foo OR bar, I'd perform separate searches on each.
          OK, now what do you do if the file you want is being released by somebody who uses Gnucleus?
          Hope that someone with a good program also has it.
    • So you're saying that the movies was about a crappy P2P service!? Crap, Agent Smith was just some bot RIAA made...

  • I'm going to hazard a guess. (Score:5, Funny)

    by bluemeep ( 669505 ) <bluemeepNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:27PM (#12649221) Homepage
    Contractual difficulties? Wouldn't be the first time a character got killed off because of it.

  • Good for you (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Safety Cap ( 253500 )
    Matrix sucked after the first movie. #2 and #3 were filler.

    All the spinoff games, anifootrix, toys and breakfast cereals (Kids! Eat a simple amino acid just like Neo!!) did was line Joel's (and Viacomm's) pockets with cash

    Morpheus is dead? Boo-friggin-hoo. Maybe if the Bros had bothered to write a credible set of sequels, we could've cared.

    • Wow seems like all the Matrix fans have gotten the modpoints today.

      Parent has my sympathy, and I totally agree with his opinion of the Matrix/Matrices.

    • Or...YOU guys suck. The Matrix was hella Awesome, it wasn't about the wirefuu action. The only reasons I see people hating the movie is because they don't understand the profoun philosophical opinions brought up in the movie. It's all about action and FX with you kids now-a-days
      • You're setting us up right? You are parroting the Matrix fan boys who dragged out the "you don't like it because you're too stupid to understand it" talk when reviews of Reloaded started to roll in, right?
        I mean you don't seriously think anything presented in the series was profound do you?
        I mean maybe if prior to seeing the films the deepest literature you had ever read was Archie comics.
  • Ding dong Morpheus is dead...

    nah, doesn't really flow right.

    • Re:But can you sing it? (Score:4, Funny)

      by CoffeeJedi ( 90936 ) on Friday May 27, 2005 @09:06AM (#12654037)
      Oh Morpheus is not deaaaaad Dead!
      oh no no no Morpheus is not dead

      I got mad at Morpheuuuuus
      for screwin up the Matrix caperrrrr
      I hope i don't see his name in the paperrr
      in the o-bi-tu-aryyyyyyyyyy
      cuz that would be that he's
      dead!

      oh Morpheus is not deaaaaad.....

      just the claps! just the claps!
  • A good start to a meaningful character death is to have the players actually care...surprise helps too. Seeing Morpheus got himself into enough trouble and relied on Neo getting him out, this was bound to happen sooner or later without the savior. Besides, yeah, he had a cool jacket, but there's just no emotional attachment...another shell lost.

    Now, take the death of Aeris in FF7. That's a way to kill a char that gets everyones blood boiling.

  • Say what?

    Am I alone in completely missing the launch of The Matrix Online? (not that it's much of a loss, but hey...)
    I remember alot of gumph a while back about concepts, but seem to have missed launch-fanfare entirely.
    • Not at all, I am in the same boat.

      I had heard they were going to do one a long time ago, but I never heard about the release...

      I guess after the last movie, no one cared.

  • Huzzah! A game with balls! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dgrgich ( 179442 ) <[drew] [at] [grgich.org]> on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:58PM (#12649429)
    I remember reading in the 'Star Trek:TNG' Compendium that each time the writers wanted to do a major shakeup of the status quo, they were rebuffed by the corporate types who were afraid that to shake things up too much would result in having to send their children to in-state colleges versus Harvard or Yale or ASU.
    It is refreshing to see that the Washchsocoicococki Brothers were willing to do something dramatic for story's sake instead of just keeping things like they were in the movie.
    • Fry: "Married?! Jenny can't get married."
      Leela: "Why not? It's clever, it's unexpected..."
      Fry: "But that's not why people watch TV. Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make them feel scared."

    • I guess it's because they conceived the matrix as 3 movies, and not a live action show, a cartoon series, a board game, a roleplaying game, a series of novels, a comic book, a collectible card game, and um...webquest...xanga

      There are other franchises whose futures seem to lie in MMO games (IMHO star trek) and if they decided that the game was going to be the primary location of continuity events, they could create some really compelling stuff for fans.

  • As someone who is still a Matrix fan even through all three movies, I'd love to take part in this story - but my experience with the Matrix Online late in the beta was a very poor one. The leveling process was long and grueling, the randomly generated quests were repetitive and usually broken, character classes were severely unbalanced, and the interface was perversely obtuse. Has anyone still playing found that they've improved any?
    • Well duh, that's why it's called a beta. No-one can tell you if a game is good, you have to go play it for yourself. Find a friend who has the game and ask them nicely for a go. If you'd done this a week ago you could have gotten a Friends and Family Promotion key from them and installed a trial version of the game.
    • The leveling process was long and grueling, the randomly generated quests were repetitive and usually broken, character classes were severely unbalanced, and the interface was perversely obtuse.

      so you are accusing them of ripping off EverQuest?

  • Off-Topic (but only slightly) (Score:3, Insightful)

    by RM6f9 ( 825298 ) <rwmurker@yahoo.com> on Thursday May 26, 2005 @06:39PM (#12649696) Homepage Journal
    After the first movie, I wrote a fan letter.

    After the second movie, I wanted to nominate the W brothers for a Nobel Prize.

    After the (insert high-volume profanity here) ending of the third movie and series, I was glad I didn't know how to make the nomination happen - arguably the greatest story-telling/cinematic failure of our modern age.

    After all of the above, does anyone really care what else they do?

    (more meaningless grumbling of profanities follows)
    • Here [daghettotymz.com] is a rather extensive account of Sophia Stewart's case. No major media outlets really seemed to pick it up which I found surprising until I read an article pointing out that Warner Brothers *is* the major media (who she was also suing).

      Personally I don't get why they are making such a big deal that she's black (a talented writer is a talented writer) but she won her suit and the story goes a long way to explain why their story started off so good and ended so badly. Maybe if they'd collaborated with

  • Why Morpheus? (Score:4, Funny)

    by QuantumG ( 50515 ) <qg@biodome.org> on Thursday May 26, 2005 @06:53PM (#12649777) Homepage Journal
    How could you play with fire like that? We loved you and now you're gone. Zion needed your guidance. Why couldn't you accept the truth about Neo? Neo wasn't a holy being, he and you were just pawns of the machines. Now you've martered yourself for a cause that wasn't worth fighting. The peace brought new hope for the matrix. Instead of being a place of oppression it could have been a place of beauty and eternal life. Bluepills could be taught the truth and continue their lives without ever having to jack out. But now Zion is divided. Those who seek revenge for your death will destroy the peace, the matrix will fall, and every bluepill will die.

  • Morpheus = Chewbacca (Score:4, Funny)

    by RotJ ( 771744 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @07:10PM (#12649928) Journal
    Can't we just dig up the old "They killed Chewbacca in a book" debate, replace the word "Chewbacca" with "Morpheus" and pretend we've already discussed this in all of its glorious nerdy detail?
    • it's Morpheus == Chewbacca.
      Here you put Chewbacca inside Morpheus, which must hurt.
      • It was pseudocode. You're allowed to use the single = to indicate equality in pseudocode. If I wanted to put Chewbacca inside Morpheus, I would have done Morpheus - Chewbacca.

        (That actually would have been a much cooler way to kill off Morpheus. By shoving Chewbacca inside of him somehow.)
        • Correction: Morpheus <- Chewbacca
          (Forgot to switch to code mode.)

          I think we should change the death penalty to something where Chewbacca rips you open and stuffs himself inside of your still-warm body. I genuinely believe that this will deter crime better than that pansy chair or gas chamber.
        • It would then have been called "The Chewbacca Offense".
      • Here you put Chewbacca inside Morpheus, which must hurt.And thus, a whole new era of slash fanfiction was born.

        ... must... scrub... brain...

  • Did you see how hard I punched that frigging guy? Seriously, I whonked his head on the toilet, swung him around by the leg into the wall, and shot him all full of mercury or something, and I got nowhere. Finally! --Agent Smith.
  • It's coming from MTV, therefore it *must* be true.
  • Just wondering if there is a site that tracks the story as it occurs in this universe. I'm still interested in the story, but MMOs really aren't my thing. I know back in the day there used to be at least one site that tracked the story as it evolved in Ultima Online. Just wondering if there is anything like that for this game?
  • Neo dies? Maybe the third movie is worth seeing afterall.
  • Lawrence Fishburne decided not to renew his voice acting contract, and the W brothers didn't want to continue with a fake.
  • Everyone knows Morpheus is dead. Kazaa is the place to be, baby!
  • How did the 4 people online at the time kill him? I thought he would be more ubah than that.

    Game already down to 9.99 at stores heh...
  • You people have got to stop calling them the Wachowski Brothers. They're the Wachowski Brother and Sister now.

    Bruce
  • As a Slackware user who doesn't think a single video game is worth plonking down a grand on a PC, then having to run Windows XP on it, I am absolutely brokenhearted that they didn't make this for consoles. But, really... What the fuck were they thinking?

    The console market is HUGE. There's going to be a console in every home sooner or later. Both major consoles available right now have ethernet ports, so networking is no problem.

    If they had released this game for XBox and Playstation II (or even just one o
  • Actually, due to a power surge, Morpheus was simply split into his two component parts. Zion will now be led by Cowboy Curtis and Ike Turner.
  • I didn't have any more of a joke thought up than "New Netcraft Survey Confirms *Morpheus is dead."

    Sorry.
  • And Superman died in the comic books. Again and again and again.

  • mod points to burn (Score:3, Insightful)

    by kisrael ( 134664 ) on Friday May 27, 2005 @10:25AM (#12654804) Homepage
    Jeez. After reading all the griping about Matrix 2 and 3, and then all the kvetching about Ep.1 and 2 and even 3, which was really pretty decent though far from flawless...I gotta say, you geeks are the whiniest MFers on the face of the earth when it comes to your beloved franchises, just total nattering nabobs of negativity when it comes to flicks following the footsteps of truly monumental movies.

    Every one of these films were worth my ten bucks if for the great special effects alone. Sure, none of them quite lived up to hopes for where the story could go, and some had non-trivial plot or goofiness or pacing issues, but DAMN you guys bitch bitch bitch! Compared to typical summer shlockbusters, every one of these sequels is frickin' ART.

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