Spurned O'Reilly 'Foo' Camp Attendees Create 'Bar' 101
theodp writes "CNET reports on this weekend's Bar Camp, an open-source alternative to O'Reilly Media's A-List Foo Camp, which CEO Tim O'Reilly explains employs a "Bozo filter" to exclude undesirable attendees.
Alternatives (Score:5, Insightful)
Then again, alternative events (not "alternative" in the sense of the label given to certain rock bands, but actually created as an alternative to a more exclusive event) sometimes do develop into something worthwhile. First one that comes to mind is the Sundance Film Festival alternative, Slamdance.
- Greg
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Re:Alternatives (Score:1)
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I don't think you're wrong, though.
Re:Nothing to see here. Move along. (Score:1)
Re:an impending merger of the two conferences (Score:1)
Headline... (Score:5, Funny)
Foo 2 Bar Bozo
Re:Headline... (Score:2)
Foo 2 Bar Bar Bozos
Baz (Score:1)
Re:Baz (Score:2)
Re:Baz (Score:1)
Nope (Score:2)
-russ
Mr. T (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Mr. T (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Mr. T (Score:5, Funny)
Beyond All Recognition (Score:2)
Live streams of the Sebastopol live event will start with instructions on scratching bugbites, gathering your own dirt from a neighbor's yard for your sleeping bag, and fantasies about rowing across the lake to the girls' "Spa Camp".
Unfortunately, this Summer's presentation of "Telewedgies" has been cancelled due to popular demand from our nerd attendees.
Good for everyone, surely? (Score:5, Insightful)
Go bar camp! (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Good for everyone, surely? (Score:2)
One would be the professional thing, and the other would be the one where all the bozos go.
I swear I'm not a bitter Debianite or anything : )
Re:Good for everyone, surely? (Score:2)
Bozo Filters (Score:3, Funny)
I don't understand why people are upset about this. This filter should only apply to clowns, not IT folks.
Re:Bozo Filters (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Bozo Filters (Score:3, Interesting)
I remember reading of O'Reilly presentations with titles like "Design as you go!", emploring the virtures of not planning out anything about your software, just throwing a bunch of coders at it and let the architecture "take care of itself".
Five years later I received (part time) the pleasure of trying to assimilate the twice abandoned project that was the flagship product being developed under this plan. It wasn't bad, but it was Java instilled wi
Re:Bozo Filters (Score:2)
That statment is contradictory.
sorry, been in the business long enough to relize there are more clowns in IT then in Clown School.
Its not a rival... (Score:3, Insightful)
This is open source... its just a branch from the original idea, re-packaged by someone new for the problem that they want to solve.
Sure forks in the code/idea base aren't always good but I'm sure if Bar gets some good ideas that they will be incorporated back into the Foo release.
Bill? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Bill? (Score:1)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&
From TFA (Score:5, Funny)
Well sure with names like Foo Camp and Bar Camp, who wouldn't be able to pick up on that.
So does that mean (Score:1)
Re:So does that mean (Score:1)
Scott Adams should sue... (Score:1)
Re:Scott Adams should sue... (Score:5, Informative)
insanely expensive (Score:1, Interesting)
Especially as many FOSS people are doing it in their downtime - so they don't have an instituion to foot the bill.
Sounds like Tim is really coining it in, to the detriment of the community.
Re:insanely expensive (Score:2, Informative)
There's no charge for Foo camp. O'Reilly hosts it, rents showers, and pays for food, wireless, and electricity.
I take it... (Score:4, Funny)
IGMC.
Re:I take it... (Score:1)
The sword cuts both ways. (Score:3, Interesting)
Once.
BozoFilter was directed at Winer. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:The sword cuts both ways. (Score:2, Funny)
Once.
Another round... (Score:1, Redundant)
I'm here! Say hi! (Score:4, Funny)
Make sure to stop and say hi!
http://www.feedblog.org/2005/08/see_you_at_barc.h
Try as I might... (Score:2, Interesting)
wtf (Score:2)
My task is now clear... (Score:5, Funny)
My task is now clear. I will have to assimilate them! Their resistance is futile!
While they are at it (Score:2)
Re:While they are at it (Score:2)
Re:Burning Man trumps Foo camp (Score:2)
It ought to; it is that time of the year, after all.
I went to Tim's first Foo camp, my gear still playa-inflicted,
but with the schedule shift, it's just too hard to do that and
also get set all the myriad things you need to think about for
the Burn. With no offence intended toward Tim, for I think
he's going a pretty cool thing, when it comes to making a choice
between Foo and the Burn, there isn't any and never was one.
--tom
Re:While they are at it (Score:4, Funny)
Re:While they are at it (Score:3, Funny)
Or at the Home Depot/Tool Time Conference For Better Floor Finishes - but maybe for different reasons. ;)
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Ob Futurama (Score:2, Funny)
Racist O'Reilly? (Score:1)
I know west nilean tribes are not the most technically apt people but this is just ridiclous, I suggest we boycott those elitist bastards at O'reilly!
Too easy: (Score:1)
For those that don't know... (Score:1)
What's the big deal about the bozo filter? (Score:2, Insightful)
From TFA:
So how do we decide who to invite? ...
Then we put together a list of a thousand odd names that we have to winnow down as best we can...
Sixth cut: the bozo filter. Someone who has been at a previous FOO camp, and whom we had complaints about for some reason or another, or who has built that kind of reputation on the net. Unfortunately, you probably don't know who you are, but other people do.
Tim: Dude, no. Last time I invited you to a party, you broke into my parent's liquor cabinent, throug
It's FUBAR, not foobar (Score:2, Informative)
Haha, loser! (Score:5, Funny)
-russ
Re:It's FUBAR, not foobar (Score:3, Insightful)
"Approximately 212 RFCs, or about 7% of RFCs issued so far, starting with [RFC269], contain the terms `foo', `bar', or `foobar' used as a metasyntactic variable..."
B0z0 filter? (Score:2)
Speaking as a conversational junkie.. (Score:2)
Really good parties feature a clueful-host-to-interesting-guest ratio of no more than 10ish, in my opinion, because you want hosts to make
Sheesh... (Score:2, Insightful)
There are basically two types of people in the world, people who do stuff (coders) and people who talk about stuff (writers). And then somewhere below that there are people who make money off of writers (publishers).
I don't have anything against publishers per se but who really cares? I mean _really_ cares?
Re:Sheesh... (Score:2)
I so not get it... (Score:2)
A private party generates a flurry of jealous, petty bitching from a bunch of self-posessed technobrats? And this is a world-class, newsworthy event? People bitching against first, and then backpedaling and trying to brown-nose some Tim O'Reilly to get it? Grow the fuck up, already...
BTW, I know the O'Reilly name. It's just, who is he anyway?
Re:I can tell that you're non-technical (Score:2)
I did say that I know who he is, didn't I?
Baz Camp (Score:2)
Here is the agenda for the first meeting:
1. Keynote Speech: Why Foo and Bar Camps are a Bunch of Ninnys : Tom O'Rielly
2. Publication in the Crossfire: People mistake me for Tim O'Reilly and How I Profit From their Mistake : Tom O'Rielly
4. Bar Camp Luminaries: Why are we Bozos? or What does it mean if we are rejected from Bar Camp? or Hey - What Happened to Event Number 3? : Bill Gates
5. Recu
FORK! (Score:2)
Dialectic Materialists. (Score:1)
Creating an 'alternative' is just falling even further into the Bozo filter trap. Only bozo's would knee-jerk insta-"fuck you", go off, and do their own thing. It's NIH'ism turned in on itself.
Is there a "Straight" filter at Bar camp, one wonders
FUBAR, not Foo Bar (Score:1)
Unfortunatly, the word is FUBAR, it is an acronym for F*cked Up Beyond All Recognition. Foo, as of my understanding, is the digital adaptation of Fu, as in Kung Fu. A programmer with great Foo is a skilled master.
-Rick