'NBC Nightly News' to Be Shown on Internet 279
Feltope writes "NBC News said Monday that it would begin making its "NBC Nightly News" broadcast available for free on the Internet starting next week.
Past broadcasts will also be archived at the http://www.nightlynews.msnbc.com/ Web site, the network said.
It's not necessarily news on demand, though. The newscast, aired at 6:30 p.m. on many NBC stations on the East Coast, won't be available on the Web until after 10 p.m. ET.
'Many of our viewers tell me they often miss the broadcast because they're not at home or tending to their busy lives and families," anchor Brian Williams said. "This new service reflects the fact that the pace of our lives has changed.'
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TV: Nice Knowing you (Score:3, Insightful)
Guess the addiction to the TV is slowly being replaced by addiction to the internet?
Good News (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Good News (Score:2)
NBC Nightly News on the Internet, with POPOVERS !, PUPUNDERS !!, BANNER ADS !!! ADWORDS by GOOGLE !!!!
Yeah, I can see how TV would be more interesting .and productive ..
Re:Good News (Score:2)
Of course the question is why? I stopped watching the morning news when i realized I watched it more for staring at the news reporters and the anchors, than for content.
Re:Good News (Score:3, Insightful)
Maybe, but most people aren't sitting there doing their taxes while they watch the news. Most people are sitting there in their underwear eating Cheetos while watching the news.
That aside, television news encourages sound-bite levels of detail, especially if you're multitasking while you watch it. The result is that the viewer is more likely to be susceptible to simple propaganda messages, and far less lik
Re:TV: Nice Knowing you (Score:3, Funny)
People still watch news... on television?!? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:People still watch news... on television?!? (Score:2)
Re:People still watch news... on television?!? (Score:5, Insightful)
Neither does this (Score:3, Informative)
Re:People still watch news... on television?!? (Score:2, Interesting)
Lame Attempt (Score:5, Interesting)
They should change the format and get a much younger anchor if they really want to attract a different demographic. Old-fashioned news doesn't become new just because you can watch it on Internet.
Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:5, Insightful)
You know, the sad truth is that you are exactly right. Fox news has gone that route, and a significant portion of the email they receive on the "Fox and Friends" morning show has to do with whether or not the young anchorwoman is wearing a skirt. Now half of the anchors on CNN Headline news look like teenagers.
Aargh.
All I want is content, and I know there are still places to find it, but sometimes I feel that soon all we'll be able to get from the $media is Ken and Barbie spoon-feeding us pablum.
Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:2)
You mean they let her take it off while she's on air? Wow, talk about doing anything to boost the ratings .... Gee, I've gotta start getting my news off the TV again instead of the ne[tt].
Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.nakednews.com/ [nakednews.com]
Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:2)
Yeah, but all it gives to non-member is a preview (though I noticed that all the women are either born in Ontario or currently living there. Sort of like how Playboy used to get more models from BC than any other single state or province).
Must be something in the water ...
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Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:5, Insightful)
Unfortunately, I know of no news program on television that really displays such a thing. Sure, there may be some real news here or there, but overall, content is not the important thing here. I personally consider loading CNN's webpage as amusement. I look at it just to know what other people see and think is "news". The current big headline is about a flu pandemic. Ohhhh, scary. If yesterday wasn't halloween, a headline like this might be more effective.
Regarding the age of the anchor people, that is a tough one. Younger people do not consider the words of older people as really authoritative. This is a trend that has been going on for about 30 years plus or minus. My guess is that technology (gadgets) has everything to do with it.
Why should a younger person trust another when they can't even record a program on their VCR?
Thats an older example, but still relevant. I heard of a study from 12+ years ago, that said that the lower your education the more likely you are to be able to program your VCR. The highschool dropout was the most likely, and the PhD was the least likely.
Back to news. I believe that there is a difference between news and events. Events are simply things that happen, like me typing this on a keyboard. News is current information about events that is relevant to someone. By having that new information, someone can think about and/or do something different vs not having that information.
At least where I live, the local news almost always has the "random death and crime" segment. Where they go locally and across the nation and world talking about how somebody might have killed somebody, robbed them, died in a car pileup, or something similar.
Those my friends are purely events, not news. There is nothing anybody can do with that information. Especially when one considers that crime is at an all time low at this time in the US. In the grand picture, those events are even less significant than they could have been, but its still a favorite segment of the televised news.
I'm not sure how to end this rant, so I'll keep rambling. I also read during the 2004 election, that the people that were most informed about the election were people that got their news from places like the "Daily Show". Its a comedy/parody of news with a very sarcastic slant, but if people are getting more relevant news from a source that is not even news when compared to the real news -- to me that says volumes.
Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes it's called the "You got us into this fucking mess, why should I listen to you?" theory.
Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:3, Informative)
Try Jim Lehrer's News Hour. It's usually a few lengthly segments with really good focus. These are also available online: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/video/ [pbs.org] Jeff
Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:5, Informative)
Check out PBS's offerings. There [pbs.org] are [pbs.org] a number [pbs.org] of programs that tend to be quite informative, and less infotainment. Granted, some aren't strictly news in the "Film at eleven" sense of the term, but then again, if you want any kind of depth you are pretty much going to have to wait a little while.
I also read during the 2004 election, that the people that were most informed about the election were people that got their news from places like the "Daily Show"
Better than that, The Daily Show won a Peabody [uga.edu] award. Twice. I agree, that is pretty sad statement on contemporary journalism when a self-described "fake news show" wins over real news shows.
-Ted
Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:3, Interesting)
Sure I can. A common rule of thumb is that most people can read 5-6 times faster than they speak. So in 2 minutes with news.google.com, you can scan just as many summaries. Or in 10 minutes you can scan 5-6 times as many summaries.
Then you can click on the "all N related >>" links that goes with the interesting-looking stories, and look through
Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not! (Score:2)
Re:Lame Attempt (Score:5, Insightful)
I hate it when they work in who is sleeping with whom in Hollywood. That is not news. the latest movie review is not news.
Re:Lame Attempt (Score:2)
Younger anchor? Maybe they could put a non-15-million-dollar face in there.
Brokaw: $5 million/year. Peter Jennings died with a $50 million dollar inheritance. For what, looking and sounding good on television?
Re:Lame Attempt (Score:2, Insightful)
I'd venture the percentage of 20somethings that do would pale in comparison...(I'm 35 in case it's relevant).
As another poster pointed out...it's the channels that have 'dumbed down' their broadcasts that irk me more than the 'age' or 'appearance' of the presenter. Do we need Rather, or some other elder statesmen fighting hurricane force winds? nope, but they do tend to lend some insight a teen
Re:Lame Attempt (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Lame Attempt (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Lame Attempt (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Lame Attempt (Score:2)
The Internet (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The Internet (Score:2)
USA Today [usatoday.com] is available at newsstands? What will they think up next?!
Little too late folks! (Score:4, Insightful)
It was the next logical step four years ago. It should have been done two years before that. We're supposed to just nod our heads and say, "oh, right, technology has finally caught up!" Blah. ASF movies were floating around in the 200MB range (2+ hours) on IRC in the late 1990s. Why couldn't news broadcasts be put out (~45 mins) in the same format for less than 100MB?
I don't care at all personally as I like to get my news in a readable format from multiple sources on multiple continents but I just don't see why it couldn't have been done 2 to 5 years ago.
Little too late IMHO.
Re:Little too late folks! (Score:2)
Too bad they stopped it a few years after that. It was fun though - they made a big fuss about it.
Re:Little too late folks! (Score:2)
Cost/benefit.
Its not uncommon for even a decent commercial website to persevere a good slashdotting. Granted, this was a very extreme example, but during the events on 9/11/01, all of the big brandname internet news sites were completely down. And this is with well less than 1 meg of information from the site at a time. 100 megs
Great.....but (Score:3, Interesting)
in Ireland have been streaming and archiving their news broadcasts and political programs for years now, surely shouldn't the US be ahead of countries like Ireland?
The quality of RTE's streams are not great but their watchable.
Re:Great.....but (Score:2)
Re:Great.....but (Score:4, Funny)
Have you nothing better to do with your life than go about correcting people's spelling and grammar?
Nope.
Not available until after 10p? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Not available until after 10p? (Score:2)
Re:Not available until after 10p? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Not available until after 10p? (Score:4, Informative)
For many networks, especially free over the air networks, these feeds get sent "in the clear" - anyone with a BUD (big ugly dish) in their backyard can get the feed of the show, complete with slate and all. Combine that with a capture device and mencoder, and a show can hit bittorrent before it airs in any market.
Re:Not available until after 10p? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Not available until after 10p? (Score:3, Insightful)
Great News (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Great News (Score:2)
-Rick
Saves time too! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Saves time too! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Saves time too! (Score:5, Funny)
And if you strip out the inflammatory slant and the "entertainment news", you can go back in time!
Re:Saves time too! (Score:2)
Regretably, they're using MSN Video technology which includes online ads you have to watch -- so you don't even have that advantage.
When I read this headline on Slashdot, I was hoping they'd be offering downloadable mpegs or partnering with the iTunes Media Store as a video podcast, or something hip like that. But instead we just get browser-based video that's presented just like it would be on the television. Not exactly worth crowing
Re:Saves time too! (Score:2)
And if you strip out everything that you didn't already see on the 'net, you can save even those 20 minutes.
c.
German Tagesschau already has it (Score:3, Informative)
I thought they cancelled "Nightly News" (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I thought they cancelled "Nightly News" (Score:3, Funny)
Here is the [big] question (Score:5, Insightful)
Before I leave, I should mention that I have my doubts as to whether browser applications like Firefox and Konqueror will work out of the box.
After all, even for Google, which is seen to support open standards and Linux, had to be asked to provide support to Firefox and Konqueror when it came to Google Maps. For companies like Yahoo, their Launchcast service is not available for folks using Linux and Firefox or Konqueror. This is after more than 5 years of [Launchcast's availability. These are sad times indeed. I hope I am wrong.
Re:Here is the [big] question (Score:3, Informative)
However, FOX does it right. I think they use Java.
Re:Here is the [big] question (Score:2)
Since when did watching a video become so complicated?
Free? (Score:2)
Re:Free? (Score:2)
Internet News is Good (Score:3)
What did I say (Score:2)
Now just get it up on iTunes and I'll be even happier.
BBC been doing it for ages now (Score:5, Informative)
Re:BBC been doing it for ages now (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:BBC been doing it for ages now (Score:2)
Not true! Have you not seen the new CNN.com "with free video"? It's not even Real, so I can actually watch it if I want to. Unfortunately it's Media Player content, so I can't watch it at home. Ho hum.
Re:BBC been doing it for ages now (Score:2)
Re:BBC been doing it for ages now (Score:2)
I like my news (Score:2)
...fail, balanced, and unafraid.
Re:I like my news (Score:2)
Ah, so you do watch Fox!
Re:I like my news (Score:2)
Freudian slip I guess.
It's Delayed Because... (Score:4, Informative)
The networks would LOVE to be able to distribute their content on their own; MSNBC is an example of doing just that, and eventually the day will come when the local stations have to pay for the network feed (some CBS stations already pay for network).
Television is changing, but I don't think it's been changing for the better. The internet doesn't add much to the change, just quickens the pace. The programming is still crap.
I don't think I get it (Score:3)
Second, a web-page has the same built-in layout as a newspaper (ooooh! that looks interesting - click), not the serial presentation of TV; plus the ability to switch from text to film-clips, active graphics, sound, etc.
So why do I want to watch network news over the Internet?
Oooh, look at the Pretty Pictures... (Score:2)
Mac & Linux Unsupported! (Score:5, Informative)
MSN Video works with Microsoft© Internet Explorer 6, Microsoft© Media Player 10, and Macromedia Flash 7. To download these free software applications, click the links below and follow the on-screen instructions.
CTV News (Canada) has been doing this for ages (Score:3)
Free? (Score:3, Insightful)
I wish they did this with every tv show. They could even charge their advertisers more money for ads. Instead of saying "Hey we think the people who watch Smallville will like commercials about Axe Deoderant, we can make a potential viewer register, ask him what kind of advertising he would like and then direct advertise for him. Pay up more money"...this I wouldn't mind so then I could get commercials I want (like I really want to see tampon commercials).
I wish they would make it more direct, i mean four hours is a lot. I could understand half hour, at most.
Tv shows on DVD (Score:4, Funny)
Not to mention the epic storylines that year: Vietnam, Apollo 13, the Beatles breaking up (holy crap! who saw that coming?), the Kent State tie-in. Must-see classics, every ep. Frankly the shows gone down the past couple of years, but can you blame them? The set the bar too high, nobody can write like that anymore.
Brian Williams is a Great Anchor (Score:3, Interesting)
JOhn
All Aboard the Band Wagon! (Score:5, Interesting)
I remember back in the 1970s when there were just 3-5 channels that we could get on TV. We were pretty much stuck with whatever came in best with our copper hangers and aluminum foil. NBC, CBS, and ABC all vied for the coveted ratings and they each had captive audiences that had to watch their advertising to see what happened next on their favorite show or movie of the week.
That was the OLD way. Today, we have a consumer base that is wanting to use pick and choose their programming a la carte. Not only that, but we want it more and more through our computers. Some are willing to pay for it instead of dealing with advertising.
We're going through a major shift in media and ABC, CBS, NBC, et. al. are starting to feel it as much as NYTimes and the other on-line newspapers. I really don't think they know exactly what to do so they just repackage instead of re-inventing the way they program and deal with revenue.
The aging advertising revenue model has been completely circumvented by the advent of TiVO and downloadable content. Advertisers pay big bucks for the exposure but now they don't feel they should pay as much if the consumers skip through the commercials or block them altogether.
So now we have an internet version of the same broadcast as NBC jumps on the bandwagon. The thing is, it's just re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The big broadcasters and newspapers are going to have to rethink the way they do business or they're going to have to learn to endure a shrinking marketshare.
AP and Reuters news blurbs read by an overpaid talking head is very 20th century. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of years.
Progress (Score:2)
Josh
TV news have something internet news doesn't? (Score:3, Insightful)
NBC == News? (Score:3, Funny)
And CNN has the hottest infobabes. Who cares if whether its real news or not? I wish CNN would bring Rudi Bakhtiar back. At least they still have Robin Meade, Soledad O'Brien, Erica Hill, Sophie Choi, Susan Hendricks, and Arthel Neville, to name a few. CNN definitely got the better end of the deal when they traded Greta van Susteran for Paula Zahn.
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Re:So? (Score:2)
You sound like you think MSM network news isn't politicized. I'll get my information from people who are at least up front about their biases, thanks, rather than putting on transparently false airs of "objectivity."
Re:So? (Score:5, Informative)
By "hardly anybody," do you mean NBC's 9,200,000 viewers [yahoo.com]? Or the 24,000,000 combined that watch national evening news on the major networks?
Re:So? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:So? (Score:2)
A billion people watched the World Series this year and the entire world (2 billion plus) routinely watches the Olympics. How these numbers are calculated is deceptive.
If the TV networks ever had to provide hard stats the way reputable websites have to, the advertising agencies would be out of work.
Much advertising is basically a scam game, but once it is entrenched there are a lot of people that play along with the game because many jobs depend on it.
Re:So? (Score:2)
Re:So? (Score:2)
Once a company gets big enough they dedicate a percentage of expenses for advertising. This tends to become an ongoing expense whether the ads result in actual additional sales or not.
At that point (when a company is big enough to have an ad executive) the budget is already there and grows. These days, the $X + $Y equation probably doesn't work so well anymore since many consumers don't get scammed the way they were before.
Sleazy car salesmen and pretentious stereo salespeople are widely regarded as m
Re:So? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Internet (Score:3, Interesting)
I think it is more about information when you want it. Being chained to a timeslot hurts distribution of content. This is the same reason DVDs of television shows are so popular. I want to watch it when I want.
Not that I'm interested in watching a news broadcast on the Internet, but it does hint that the current media conglomerants are finally starting to, however dimly, "get it"
Re:Internet (Score:2)
You know, they used to sell this really neat thing - you can't find it in stores any more, but it allowed you-all to watch what you want, when you want to - for FREE. I think it was called a VCR ... but its been so long since I've seen one ...
Seriously, try buying a VCR nowadays - they're more expensive than dvd players.
Re:Internet (Score:2)
No shit. A VCR has hundreds of precise mechanical parts. A DVD player has a $5 DVD loader (with about 10 pieces of injection-molded plastic and a cheap read head) and about $8 worth of electronics. A DVD player is a hell of a lot simpler than a VCR.
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Re:Internet (Score:3, Funny)
There are 3 major arguments:
Re:Internet (Score:2)
It's people like you that give Americans a bad name.
Re:Internet (Score:2)
a.) It's easier to skip over commercials on a download (they already hate TiVo because of this)
and (probably more importantly):
b.) It's harder to track viewership, and ad revenue is based on viewership. Sure, you can track who downloaded it, but it may be more difficult to track who actually watched it, especially if they download it and then share it with their friends.
And I suppose the cynical could at a third reason:
c.) Because content providers automatically see any
Re:Internet (Score:2)
They have to pay actors in commercials a lot extra in order to show the commercials on an additional medium.
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Re:Change the Title (Score:2)
This is the first time the full content is available.