Some Mexican Classrooms Adopt Hi-Tech Teaching 150
An anonymous reader writes "It what is believed to be the most ambitious project of its kind in the world. In a program called Enciclomedia, giant electronic screens have been attached to the walls of about 165,000 Mexican classrooms. Some five million 10 & 11 year-olds now receive all their education through these screens. 'From maths to music, from geography to geometry, black and white boards have given way to electronic screens. During a biology lesson we watch as pupil after pupil comes to the screen to piece together the human body... electronically. One boy taps his finger on the screen and brings up the human heart. He then slides his finger across the screen, taking the heart with him and places it where he thinks it belongs on the body located on the other side of the screen.'"
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I do think this is a lot better idea than the whole "internet access in every classroom" craze. This system can actually supplement what the teacher is doing up in front of the class, whereas the internet is more of an outside of class research activity.
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It requires teachers to adapt to a very powerful tool, which hopefully makes bad teacher less bad, and eases the work of brilliant teachers. Now the lessons are more planned for teachers than ever, and bad drawing won't confuse pupils any more, since the screen comes with interactive drawings.
I don't believe that a screen itself could replace a teacher, since most pupils would lack the discipline to study on their own accord.
I wonder how fragile thes
Teachers won't go away anytime soon (Score:1)
I don't see teachers disappearing anytime soon. They aren't only a mindless talking machines whose only function is to read aloud a textbook (some actually are, however).
I mean, if they were just like that and thus replaceable, why stopping there? just ditch the whole concept of classroom and just give the tykes some CDs.
I wish... (Score:3, Interesting)
After going through the educational process I realized that good teachers are by far a min
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The scandal after the install (Score:1)
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I completely agree. There's a psychological theory to the group based/student driven teaching that's so popular today called "constructivism." It seems to work great for subjects where there is no right answer, where discussion leads someone to a greater intuitive understanding of the underlying meaning of a metaphor or whatever else through the contexts presen
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Learning without work (Score:4, Insightful)
But learning requires work and effort. There's no shortcut.
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"Relieves them from having to make an effort to teach?" Are you serious?
These boards aren't magic wands.
You have to:
1- Learn to use the software for the program, which is very often poorly documented. (Surely Slashdotters understand this!)
2- Develop lessons for the program, which usually involves coming up with entirely new materials, searching out sources, and coming up with ways to integrate them to the new software.
3- Like any other tool, debug
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My mum is a teacher. (Score:2)
She only has 40 years of experience teaching at primary and secondary level (6 to 15 years old children).
She says "mijo, dile al señor en la computadora que es un soberano pendejo".
I would translate it for you, unfortunately Mexican swearing words are not my speciality when it comes to translation.
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Ah. Outside the box of. . . a dictionary?
Responsibility (Score:2, Funny)
I had Bill Nye the Science Guy as a science teacher once. There was also some other guy there, but I think his job was to manage the VCR.
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Computers need electricity... (Score:2)
I know, I've been there.
When will our government realize that what's needed first is more truly dedicated, capable teachers and basic physical infrastructure?
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Absolutely compadre. (Score:2)
One of the few things that really works in Mexico is the educational system. It is far from perfect, but it has been churning our people that could do better if the economic situation had developped at the same speed. Shame really.
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Am I supposed to be impressed? (Score:2)
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Otherwise it wouldn't be "believed", as 14 full sized books isn't enough that you really need to make a guess.
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old news (Score:2, Informative)
Omar
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(Yeah I am from Mexico too)
Technology (Score:2)
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Could it be hacked? (Score:1)
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Catching up to the other countries (Score:5, Interesting)
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In US there's no government agency that takes care of education.
Uhhhh... wha?
Exactly how long were you in the US?
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More curiously, a great many of my students (Dallas suburb) that come from Mexico are amongst the most poorly educated in my classes - and no, it's not a linguistic issue. They describe underpaid teachers who are undermotivated and often abusive.
I guess we both have our own forms of nationalism, eh?
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Despite your laziness, I read your entire post. "Mexico" and "Mexican" were capitalized all but once. "America" and "American" (each used several times) were never capitalized, even once. Looks like the Mexican school system has a long way to go.
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Mexico and America should be capitalized in spanish, but not words like Mexican (mexicano) or American (americano). In other words, he might be writing in English using his Spanish part of the brain
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1) "The OP was thinking in Spanish and writing in English".
No - the OP was intentionally being disrespectful by not using proper capitalization. I was trying to be a little less blunt about it, but there it is. Place names are capitalized in English. Place names are capitalized in Spanish. I'm not buying the Mexican-American brain syndrome argument. By the way, I've done the same thing when posting about politicians whom I disrespe
I don't know why... (Score:1)
That part made me chuckle.
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P.d. estos pinches gringos están bien locos, criticando la ortografía de la gente cuando ellos apenas pueden hablar el Inglés...
Me fail english? thats Unpossible!
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I applaud you, sir. (Score:2)
Back in the day... (Score:1)
My
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Why not go all the way? (Score:3, Informative)
http://patapata.sourceforge.net/WhyEducationalTec
With all that technological success in other areas, why are schools still
considered a problem area, see:
"To fix US schools, [bipartisan] panel says, start over"
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1215/p01s01-ussc.ht
Or in other words, why has technology failed in compulsory schools?
Clearly something is wrong here -- technology is helping make these other
places more productive and more flexible -- but in schools, there is not
much change, despite a huge expenditure in technology and training.
Ultimately, educational technology's greatest value is in supporting
"learning on demand" based on interest or need which is at the opposite
end of the spectrum compared to "learning just in case"
based on someone else's demand.
Compulsory schools don't usually traffic in "learning on demand",
for the most part leaving that kind of activity to libraries or museums or
the home or business or the "real world". In order for compulsory schools
to make use of the best of educational technology and what is has to
offer, schools themselves must change.
And it also turns out, based on psychological studies, that for creative
work (as opposed to ditch digging), reward is often not a motivator, and
creativity and intrinsic interest diminish if a task is done for gain:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/motivation.html [gnu.org]
This finding calls into question the entire notion of a scarcity-based
ideology oriented around exchanging ration-units for creative goods, as
opposed to a "gift economy", such as drives GNU/Linux.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy [wikipedia.org]
So, if most of what people do is not related to growing food or making
things, then a system based around material rewards doesn't make much
sense. And it turns out, a lot of difficult work is quite interesting, if
you are not forced to do it -- where the work (and success at a
challenging task) is its own reward.
But then is compulsory schooling really needed when people live in such a
way? In a gift economy, driven by the power of imagination, backed by
automation like matter replicators and flexible robotics to do the
drudgery, isn't there plenty of time and opportunity to learn everything
you need to know? Do people still need to be forced to learn how to sit in
one place for hours at a time? When people actually want to learn
something like reading or basic arithmetic, it only takes around 50
contact hours or less to give them the basics, and then they can bootstrap
themselves as far as they want to go. Why are the other 10000 hours or so
of a child's time needed in "school"? Especially when even poorest kids in
India are self-motivated to learn a lot just from a computer kiosk -- or a
"hole in the wall":
http://www.greenstar.org/butterflies/Hole-in-the-
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The killer is not "gain", but the compulsory nature. If you are forced to do anything, even for "gain", you loose the creativity aspect. On the other hand, if you are allowed freedom, your creativity is enhanced, even if your creativity is for "gain". Yes, personal accomplishment is its own reward, but it is not exclusive to making a profit as well!
And as a
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A Global Reply (Score:5, Interesting)
1- As a teacher who has one of those boards hanging in my room right now, 25 feet in front of me (I'm on my planning period, thanks) I can tell you:
THE BOARD DOES NOTHING UNTIL THE TEACHER CREATES THE LESSON TO OPERATE ON IT.
Very, very few high-quality lessons are available on the internet. Teachers are (disappointingly) a very territorial bunch with their lessons. At best, you'll find perhaps two dozen lessons attached to your grade/subject. Of those, at most five will be appropriate for your class/skillset of students.
2- Technology will only eclipse teachers when you show me the tool that will deal well with the kid who got his ass beat by dad last night for trying to get him to stop hitting his mom, who speaks a dozen words of the school's language, and has the unfortunate-but-true "Living for now" survival instincts of a child raised in poverty. When you develop a program that can educate that, all while taking role and helping Sarah get to the nurse because she's having her first period, I'll bow out of this classroom and go on welfare.
3- These boards, as great as they sound, are simply glorified mouse-pads with projectors hitting them. You synch up where the projector is aiming with the board, and you've basically got a supersized tablet that also happens to have the monitor on it. In short, something very similar to bank screens for the last ten years. The difference? Someone made the screen even bigger and got the cost low enough that a few principles caught on, and the rest followed like pigs in a pen, as most things in education go.
Do I use mine? Absolutely. I'm probably using it now while you read it - but it's just a tool (albeit a high-potential one), it's not the Educational Messiah, and technology is surely not going to destroy this field, popular Slashdot views to the contrary.
-A teacher
Article could have been written 20+ years ago (Score:2)
If they just bought this system and it's really that useful, what, exactly, is the "teacher" needed for? (More likely, this is just the next generation of fancy filmstrip.)
Or second...computers were a (sad) part of my elementary school education too, and I now have a couple of kids.
Some Mexican classrooms... (Score:2)
I must dissent (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, unless you have both the source code and plenty of time on your hands, it takes control of the curriculum out of the hands of the teacher and school and puts it in the hands of the company doing the programming and politicians. Somehow I fear there will poor messages in the material, such as commercialism, materialism, sexism, ageism, and other ideas that are often pushed in commercial kids TV (and TV in general), among many other concerns that occur when either career politicians or private businesses are involved.
Umh... Not very likely (Score:1)
Mexico and human hearts -- Yikes! (Score:3, Funny)
This wasn't part of an Aztec ritual, was it?
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This wasn't part of an Aztec ritual, was it?
You're thinking of the Aztechs.
Extra point to anyone who gets the reference.
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Hmm- me thinks you have that assbackwards....I WAS for the genocide of the 1 billion to save the 6 billion (the 10 million
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What the fuck is mexicos deal anyways?
The rich people in Mexico don't want to spend any money on education or anything else to benefit the underclass. The government is totally corrupt and just has their hand out for a bribe. The vast majority are totally illiterate peasants whose main ambition in life is to come to the US to pick fruit for $.05/hour and live 30 to an apartment. The rich in Mexico like it that way because it is easier to exploit illiterate people.
And with a program like this, they can claim to "teach" kids when in fact they ar
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Nice stereotype, it's like saying most Americans are arrogant fat-asses who only care about making money.
The ambition of most Mexicans is the same as most Americans, work hard to provide their family & kids with better opportunities. For many it means sacrificing whatever dreams they had to pick fruit and deal with uncomfortable living conditions so
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Re:Good for mexico (Score:5, Informative)
From the CIA World Factbook [cia.gov]:
Literacy Rates for Mexico:
Total Population: 92.2%
Male: 94%
Female: 90.5% (2003 est.)
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Not to troll or anything but this is one question/reason I've always had as to why most of the Souther California Hispanic/Latino population does not prosper and if you have a reason as to why this is, I'd appreciate it.
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Just a suggestion, but maybe it gained popularity through "Karma Police", if you hear anyone saying that people "buzz like fridges", or reports
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Music is a bad comparison. Music is a singular and is not abbreviated. Mathematics is a plural and is ab
English English vs. American English (Score:2)
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No, but I wouldn't say "maths" either.
It's a lot easier to say it without the 's' on the end.
American English is full of things like this. Get over it. It's just like how we changed the "-ise" suffix to "-ize", because it looks like it sounds that way. Or how we got rid of the 'u' in colour, etc., because it's not pronounced.
Like it or not, that's how it is, and it's been that way for around 200 years (the early colonists intentio
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Hey!, I am a Mexican living in the UK an I can assure you the U in Colour and Behaviour and flavour DOES indeed sounds over here
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and encouraging people to leave the country is a viable economic policy
Well... how is it not, exactly?
Making your country's unemployed and impovershed go away and be some other country's responsibility? Pretty clever, actually.
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props to wikipedia [wikipedia.org]
It's singular. Math is be
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It's silly to put the 's' sound after the 'th' sound, so we don't do it. Sticking to something that's silly because of some imagined superior etymology is pigheaded. Except for the word, 'isthmus.' That word is is so silly it shoots the moon into being worth keeping around.
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