Geologists Claim Earth May Be Softer Around The Middle Than Previously Thought 98
A new geological study is suggesting that what we know about the lower mantle of the Earth may have to be reevaluated. Since we are unable to actually sample the Earth at those depths, scientists rely on the use of seismic waves to study the lower reaches of the Earth. This new study suggests that material in the lower mantle has unusual characteristics that make sound move more slowly, suggesting a softer makeup than previously thought. "What's most important for seismology is the acoustic properties--the propagation of sound. We determined the elasticity of ferropericlase through the pressure-induced high-spin to low-spin transition. We did this by measuring the velocity of acoustic waves propagating in different directions in a single crystal of the material and found that over an extended pressure range (from about 395,000 to 590,000 atmospheres) the material became 'softer'--that is, the waves slowed down more than expected from previous work. Thus, at high temperature corresponding distributions will become very broad, which will result in a wide range of depth having subtly anomalous properties that perhaps extend through most of the lower mantle."
Perhaps it should try (Score:5, Funny)
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Does this soft element transmit heat from the earth's core to the surface more easily than previously thought? Does that account for the change in temperatures? Is this a new phenomenon?
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I for one... (Score:1)
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah' nagl fhtagn...
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Pug
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Ouch, that's embarrassing.
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As for the quote from Genesis: you might be better off reading a version that was not mangled by hundreds of years of wrong translations and political machinations.
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Wikipedia isn't penned by God?
I thought all biblical transcriptions were guided by Gods hand so no such mangling could occur?
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I always have the same response for this, every time: Stop with the rhetoric and show me the manuscripts. It's not like Hebrew is some obscure language that nobody understands. So, how would YOU translate the passage in question?
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"The earth, its round, and it took a billion imaginative years before humans *landed on it. Make peace, and realize this... Sharing is caring."
At least thats what I would have translated it. And my version is SOOOOoo much friendlier.
*landed = suddenly humans appeared. (based on the great book's example.)
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So, it's too early in the week for thee to be creating?
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Anyway, your "Brother's Karamazov" (sic) counter example is ridiculous. I will not find the same problem there, as the Brothers Karamazov does not expect me to take it as God's own words and to believe each and every word in it on faith.
My problem is not that there are translation and tra
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As to your other questions, I never waste my time arguing theology on Slashdot. Fully prepared to do so. Stupid place to do it. It's like trying to play chess while there is an entire audience booing, throwing rotten vegetables, and spouting Monty Python quotations.
Actually, I think Luther would laugh at you
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1. As you correctly remarked, I am anything but an expert in these things. But that's not needed for this discussion, which I meant to be about whether it makes sense to have unquestioned believe in a translated text that you _know_ is not the same as the original.
2. You didn't address my point that neither translation makes any sense, what with the separating of water and water through whatever, be it an expanse, a stretched out thing, a vault or a stronghold.
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Re:Creation +1, Evolution -1 (Score:5, Informative)
c.1250, from L. firmamentum "firmament," lit. "a support or strengthening," from firmus "firm" (see firm (adj.)), used in Vulgate to translate Gk. stereoma "firm or solid structure," which translated Heb. raqia, a word used of both the vault of the sky and the floor of the earth in the O.T., probably lit. "expanse," from raqa "to spread out," but in Syriac meaning "to make firm or solid," hence the erroneous translation.
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As for the Hebrew understanding of the construction of the sky, other references hold the idea of something that is stretched or spread out. The idea of a vaulted support is not to be found in Hebrew cosmology.
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It gets older - it gets fatter! (Score:2, Funny)
Soft in the middle. (Score:2, Funny)
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Why do you like picking on the mentally challenged?
less clever than you think (Score:2)
Your car mechanic could do the same trick to you by making use of jargon, slang acronyms and whatnot, so that you'd respond with a 'duh' when asked (in jargonspeak) whether you think your car would get better gas mileage under hard or gentle acceleration.
Stripped
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But hey, that's what we elect people for: So they can inform themselves and make wise decisions. We elect them based on those decisions so they better get their knowledge up to snuff. Before election time. And that doesn't mean "listen to one lobbyist from Chevr
Well duh! (Score:4, Funny)
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When I first glanced at the headline I thought it said
Geologists May Be Softer Around The Middle Than Previously Thought
I may have to harangue some of the boys down the hall on this one...
Middleaged earth (Score:5, Funny)
It's not an ozone hole (Score:1)
Earth! (Score:3, Funny)
Now with delicious soft filling and an irresistably crunchy core!
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Going a little bit soft in the middle now? (Score:2, Interesting)
More on topic, I wonder what difference this will make to the study of seismology? Don't different densities refract the pressure waves from seismic events? Perhaps this new model will improve the ability to measure the location of earthquakes?
Jawbreaker (Score:3, Funny)
I said it before and I'll say it again, the Earth is a giant micro-waved jawbreaker [wikipedia.org], and it's warming up! Y'all laughed at me, just wait until you get licked to death by the giant tongue from outer space, or burnt to death once it explodes.
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Life of an IT person... (Score:1, Redundant)
Welcome (Score:4, Funny)
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Politically Correct (Score:1)
The Kola Superdeep Borehole (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=567 [damninteresting.com]
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You mean you replied to all the spam, and it worked?
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Without pictures, it didn't happen.
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Could you point me at the original reports of them finding fossils at any depth in the Kola super-deep borehole/ ANY fossils. ANY depth. I'm not particularly bothered if the reports are in the original Russian, or translated into English (or French for that matter).
I'll give you a hint - I read some of the original reports myself when I was studying high-P metamorphism
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Just one question... I know that Libraries of Congress is a unit of information, and Volkswagons are units of mass. When did Abe Vigoda become a unit of age?
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If/when the Antarans show up we're going to be so screwed...
Don't worry about the Antarans... (Score:2)
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- it was a joke - of course, if you say anything on slashdot that even begins to make fun of people's political sensibilities, left or right, you'll be immediately taken seriously and modded down as angry people go back to their web sites and give Obama or Romney another $20 to really, really, let them know how much they care about the issues.
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It's the American diet (Score:1, Redundant)
Nuclear Reactor at Core? (Score:2)
http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/jan252002/126.pdf [ias.ac.in]
Go Aquabats! (Score:3, Informative)
At the center of the earth
And in his big oven
He bakes his own desserts
He warms the ocean
And from that, life springs forth
Little organisms building trash around the clock
Compost heaps
Or melting pots
For Farmer John's
Smoked Sausage stocks
Worms make the dirt
And the dirt makes the earth
And all of the roots have a place to sleep now
All the chanuks have squash to eat now
Worms make the dirt
And the dirt makes the earth
And people hold hands and feel terrific
Food comes from dirt
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Another fascinating observation from the paper is the dominance of the U235/U238 ratios, and how U235 (the fissile isotope)
Earth! Now with senior citizen discounts! (Score:1, Redundant)
Hollow Earth Theory (Score:2)
Until then, I will keep wearing my tinfoil hat with pride.
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Apparently the Geologists recently upgraded (read downgraded) their computers to Windows Vista
Upon processing the results, the OS sensed they didnt not have a full license, and there for sent back only what they had paid for, leading to the premature conclusion of a softer core
This makes me glad... (Score:1)
Groan..... (Score:1)
Makes Sense (Score:1, Redundant)
At age 7000 the Earth will start spewing noxious fumes and it will need a giant catheter to pipe all fluids to outer space.
At age 8000 it will become extremely wobbly, driving off from it's orbit.. some biblical historians also speculate it might smash into mars at this time..
At 9000 light will become extremely dim and the Earth will only see daylight for 2 hrs in a day, the rotation and revolution speeds will slow d
Intriguing (Score:1)
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Yay for NASA! (Score:1)
I have always wondered about that... (Score:2)
If the answer is (relatively speaking) low pressure, then with the estimated high temperature I can imagine a liquid like center.
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Damn, you beat me to it! That's exactly what I've been toying with for some time now, with an additional question: The densest materials fall to the bottom of the gravity well... and where exactly is that? Or put in another way - do the densest materials fall to a point of zero gravity?
Of course, if you shift the liquefied iron or lead to, say the right, there's gonna be more of the Ea
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Just beca
At the center of the earth (Score:2)
Hell, it'd explain the red-shift and why no one can travel faster than the speed of light.
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Toro
Those softy elves... (Score:1)
I've been saying this for years! Those sissy elves made Middle-Earth too soft! Their overly-peaceful ways made Sauron's rise to power almost inevitable!
Oh, wait...
Curious (Score:2)
A softer than expected inner layer was the base of the crustal shifting theory of Charles Hapgood in his Path of the Pole [amazon.com] book.
The book and theories were prefaced/backed by Einstein, but it was rejected by geologists.
Maybe there was a seed of truth in Hapgood's work?
huh (Score:1)