Leaked Wolverine Origin Trailer Makes the Rounds 238
Uriah noted that the Comic Con wolverine origins trailer has been circulating in high quality camcorder form, very conveniently broken into a first and second part. Despite the terrible camera angle, the movie looks pretty good ... at least, while we wait for the Avengers.
Leaked trailers (Score:5, Interesting)
Gee, I wonder how all these trailers are being "leaked" all of a sudden... are management types finally clued into the power of internet buzz?
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I remember in the web's infancy that if you had a fan page, you got a cease and desist, even though you clearly weren't breaking any laws. Companies attacked their fans, rather than rewarding them for adding to the hype machine and giving them free PR.
Oh, and the trailer (what I could make out of it) looks pretty damned good.
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I remember in the web's infancy that if you had a fan page, you got a cease and desist, even though you clearly weren't breaking any laws. Companies attacked their fans, rather than rewarding them for adding to the hype machine and giving them free PR.
Oh, and the trailer (what I could make out of it) looks pretty damned good.
Not all companies did that. In fact, several years ago, Marvel had a program designed to support fanfiction. There were certain qualifications regarding story content, but they decided to embrace it. (Not sure if they still do.)
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Oh, and the trailer (what I could make out of it) looks pretty damned good.
From what I could see, it looks decent. There are a lot of characters from the comics making an appearance, including gambit and what looks like juggernaut. Wolverine's origin is one of the better comics that I've read, and they got Hugh Jackman back.
The things that worry me are Gavin Hood directing and how badly they messed up the last movie. From his imdb page [imdb.com], it looks like he's extremely inexperienced.
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Tsotsi is a very good film, and that is why he got this job.
And I believe that is The Blob, not Juggernaut. I could be wrong.
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Precedent proves that just because his production company is involved, it does not automatically follow that he would be onscreen. I present you with Richard Dean Anderson, Executive producer of Stargate SG1... noticeably absent but was still producing the show.
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Actually, I recall watching a "leaked" copy of The Devil's Rejects [imdb.com] (it may have been House of 1000 Corpses [imdb.com], but I'm 75% sure it was Rejects). It was obviously a well-placed tripod at a private screening (nice theater, small screen relative to multiplexes) - Crystal clear audio. The interesting thing was that, at the very start, there was some ass-hole with a cowboy hat blocking part of the screen. He stood up during the opening credits and walked out of the theater. I don't know for certain that it was Rob Zombie, but it sure as hell looked like him when you caught his profile.
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Doubtful, or the camera angle would have been better.
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You have fallen right into their trap!
I know that they know that they will make you think you know that they didn't know about this. But you should know that they could have known and were double bluffing for know-it-alls just like you. Know what I mean? No? Meh.
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H: If the buzz is any indicator, that movie's gonna make some huge bank.
J: What buzz?
H: The Internet buzz.
J: What the fuck is the internet?
So... (Score:5, Funny)
I wonder.... (Score:2, Interesting)
Can
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Does anyone else wonder why they chose Hugh Jackman again? Personally, I thought he was good, but not phenomenal.
Can /. think of anyone who would be better suited to the role?
Well the fact that he is producing it, kind makes it a shoe in.
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I nominate myself!
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Those are called "fingers." Can you wiggle them? Yes? Good. Keep practicing and they will help you enter your code via the "keyboard." Then you won't have to tap that foot pedal in Morse code to type anymore.
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If they had been working on this movie say around 15-20 years ago, I think Clint Eastwood would have been perfect.
On the other hand, the odds of a comic adaptation not sucking at that time was around 1%. Now it's up at a lofty 10-20%. So it's a trade-off. :)
Oh and they're picking Hugh for the tie-in to the X-Men trilogy. That's a no-brainer.
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because he is a producer [imdb.com] of the film?
Re:I wonder.... (Score:5, Funny)
Me. My sideburns are at least 4 inches longer than Hugh Jackmans.
Funny, found out recently, when I interviewed for this position, my manager emailed the whole office to tell them that Wolverine was in the office applying for a job. I remember wondering at the time why everyone was looking my way...
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Not really, I thought he did extremely well in the role, and the fact it took him from relative obscurity to star overnight around the world suggests a lot of others thought so too.
Why wonder? Does it have to be any more complicated than you have a different opinion?
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Ian Holm?
Camcorder jammer? (Score:4, Interesting)
I know it may not sound all that "nice", but, if you could make some kind of a gismo that could detect camcorders and then jam them, and have it in a movie theater, I bet you could get stinking rich.
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I know it may not sound all that "nice", but, if you could make some kind of a gismo that could detect camcorders and then jam them, and have it in a movie theater, I bet you could get stinking rich.
The way the entertainment world works at the moment, the way to do that would be to lobby for a law that forces manufacturers to put a proprietary protection chip in every camcorder, and pass the cost onto the consumers.
It sounds like a stupid idea, because it is. But that's basically how all DRM works: force something costly and inconvenient into an otherwise working product, in a way that makes little to no sense from any practical standpoint.
Re:Camcorder jammer? (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't think the chip would be necessary. I'd bet you could really distort the quality of what it records by putting some light that blasts out a wavelength just outside of what's visible to us, but the camcorder is flooded by it.
This seems too easy, probably would have been done already.
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Of course, a simple filter over the lens would fix that problem instantly, which is probably why no one has bothered with IR lights in theaters as far as I know.
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Not necessarially. You know all of those "Why didn't I think of that?" moments? You just may be ahead of the curve on this one.
Infrared light should work pretty well. Point an IR remote at a camcorder sometime and press a button. I wouldn't be surprised if you could make the entire movie screen appear as a bright light to the camcorder, just by shining a nice, bright IR light at it during the movie.
Unfortunately, this "copyright protection" scheme
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My brother was in the military and was on some post (forget which) a few years ago. On their way out for field exercises they would drive by a heavily secure compound (multiple runs of fencing with concertina wire, a solid wall further in, guard dogs, the whole bit) and they were told it was some sort of special forces facility.
My brother took two pictures of the compound with a disposable camera. He saved the camera and got the pictures developed when he was back home on leave. Those two pictures were c
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Odd. I remember entertaining myself with IR LEDs just a few years ago. I couldn't see them, but they lit up quite nicely in the viewfinder.
Re:Camcorder jammer? (Score:5, Informative)
In my former life selling electronics, we used the camcorders to see if the infrared on a defective tv remote was working.
Re:Camcorder jammer? my eyes! (Score:2)
I agree it sounds like a good idea on the tech. side, but I *really* don't like the idea of staring into that much IR light for 2 hours at a time. Can you imagine if that caused damage?
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IR is between heat and red light. You're not going to physically toast your eyes looking at few dozen IR LEDs, unless you've got them stuck up under your eyelids..
Re:Camcorder jammer? (Score:5, Funny)
I shudder to think what would happen if the MPAA hooked up with the Army.
Major public works would get busted down to private.
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That was awesome
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From what I know, this is exactly what they do at film festivals and such. I went to Telluride last year and they *told* us they were using technology to detect camcorders.
Re:Camcorder jammer? (Score:5, Interesting)
Come in to AMC Cinemas (Score:2)
See a movie and get laser eye surgery for one low price!
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For a more MAFIAA-compliant solution, legislate that every camcorder sold in the US must have a remote kill switch that is triggered in the cinema. The problem is that this system can either be hard to circumvent or hard to abuse, but not both.
If the CamKiller® system works one-way, then anyone can capture the kill signal and broadcast it elsewhere.
If it works both ways, i.e. the camera has a transmitter and requests a digitally signed confirmation after the first kill signal, and turns off only when a
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I come to Slashdot for tech news, not for a sneak peak at the TV commercials of tomorrow.
Ah, you must be looking for the second part of the Slashdor slogan: "stuff that matters".
Unfortunately, this falls under the first part, "news for nerds", which, due to the nature of what interests nerds, usually fails the second part.
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I believe the correct wording is: bury it.
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A story about a leaked fucking trailer?
As the meme goes... you must be new here. Slashdot has always had some aspect of pop culture fanboyism. Anime, comics, movies... all fodder for the occasional Slashdot "article". Granted - Anime doesn't show up much anymore. And I suppose there's still some burn from the whole Star Wars thing. But I hardly find it surprising when a trailer for something as fan-frenzy-feeding as a wolverine-centric movie gains Slashdot attention. Even if it's just a leaked movie (from Comicon - as a certain Clever Nick
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Not to be confused... (Score:4, Informative)
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"leaked" tailers? (Score:4, Insightful)
I really don't understand the purpose of holding back a trailer and only showing it to a select few people. If it was unfinished or something, It'd be understandable, but these are finished already.
It's for promotional use, it's to promote the film, SURELY you want as many people as possible to see it?
Or maybe I missed something?
Re:"leaked" tailers? (Score:4, Funny)
forbidden fruit probably?
1. Create $x
2. Make everyone think that $x is the best thing since sliced bread. (by making it secret)
3. ???
4. Profit
Redo the do (Score:3, Insightful)
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I'm confused..... What happened to Alpha Flight ? Are they rewiring the storyline again ?
Preliminary surveys indicate that Puck != Revenue.
Why is The Blob and Gambit in this? (Score:5, Interesting)
This is what I hate generally hate about comic book movies (and this applies to all movies made from print media sources). I understand that you have to make some changes because you are dealing with years of back story and have squeeze it into 2 hours.
But that said, would it kill them to at least keep the story straight rather than add characters who had nothing to do with the Weapon X program? Blob and Gambit had NOTHING to do with the weapon x program (not even in any sort of retcon'ed timeline). Where is Maverick, Mastadon and Kestrel? They are not listed on IMDB on the cast list (but Blob, Gambit, Deadpool and gent Zero (the latter two were involved in later incarnations of the Weapon X program, not Wolverine's origin).
So maybe I am being a picky fan boy, and the movie does look awesome, but would it kill them to get it right for once?
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but would it kill them to get it right for once?
That depends on your definition of "get it right". Does that mean adhere strictly to the established origin in the comic book universe (and if so are we dealing with the 616 or Ultimate origin, here?) or creating a story that will translate to film well and appeal to a large audience who may only know of Wolverine from the preceding X-Men movies?
Comics can't keep their stories straight... (Score:5, Insightful)
Comics can't keep their stories straight... so why bother doing so for TV/Film/cartoon*/etc. adaptations - especially given the constraints of the movie format, etc.?
* though the X-Men cartoon was quite nice, I don't think one could actually call it 'canon'.
From alternative universes to timetravel to cross-overs** to introducing new characters that are -exactly- like a previously existing (and sometimes not even dead-yet) character for the sake of furthering along a particular plot.
** I'm sorry, but why would spiderman be fighting superman, exactly - and just how would superman not actually be winning this? Please. Leave each superhero in its own little 'universe' already. (Yeah, I'm looking at you, Stark.)
If you want at least a reasonably solid storyline with a beginning and an end, then comic books are one of the last places you should be looking. With Heroes being popular as it is and having a high 'X-Men'-appeal itself, I can't help but fear that it, too, will end up being dragged on and on and on.
Back on-topic.. Gambit is a hugely popular character from the comics as well as the cartoons... fans have wanted to see Gambit in the first three X-Men movies and were denied it; I'm not saying the movie studios are bending to the will of the fans, but you can't exactly blame them if they did - even if it's just because of dollarsigns in their eyes :)
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Some stories are GREAT in comics, but would suck horribly if faithfully adapted as movies. Some characters are fantastic in comics, but likewise would suck horribly if faithfully adapted to film.
Comics are not movies; movies are not comics. "Getting it right" when adapting a comic to a film doesn't mean following the comic as gospel; it means making a film that will appeal to a very broad audience in the hopes of making big bucks while hopefully keeping true to the spirit of the books (See: Batman, Spider-M
Leaked, copied, or viral marketing? (Score:3, Interesting)
I've been hearing a fair bit about leaked trailers, etc. I wonder if these are really "leaked" or if they're intentionally let out as a form of viral marketing...
Good old blood and guts or flower power? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Much as I dislike the whole heavy handed **AA nonsense,
people who sneak camcorders into theatres are just low.
They're not low. They usually sit back a bit to get a better angle.
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Yeah, because, you know, leaking this trailer onto the Internet will only hurt Fox :)
As with all things, perhaps this isn't black-and-white.
Hell, if I worked for Fox's PR department, I would have done this myself, if no one in the audience had done so.
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And of course the person who takes a camcorder to a theatre only uses it to record the trailers and help the studios, right?
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If you're going to accuse someone of doing something "low", you might want to have a rationale for it.
When I buy something from the local supermarket, I'm not doing it to help the supermarket. But that doesn't mean what I'm doing is "low".
You don't have to have altruistic motives in order to not be scum. In this case, I think you'd have to make the case that recording the trailer and putting it on the Internet in any way hurt Fox.
Are you going to try to do that?
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It is more about respecting others copyrights and property rights. You many not agree with it but you should respect it, having it leaked out before hand may be a positive or negative thing but if they didn't want it out people should respect their rights to do so. By not doing so has created things like DRM etc. and attempts to fix the problems that tend to tread towards getting into our own privacy. If you don't respect others privacy and they will not respect yours. and you shouldn't hold people/and companies at a higher standard if you are not willing to follow it yourself.
I don't think Civil Disobedience would fall under this case as well IANAL but it doesn't seem to show by trying to keep the information private is against on anyone's rights, and it seems the offender is breaking the rights of the company.
There is the right to free speech but there is also the right of privacy. If you respect both then they normally don't conflict with each other.
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This would be about copyright, not privacy nor property ("intellectual property" is a PR phrase).
And the basis (indeed, the entire rationale) of copyright is promoting the creation of useful works.
Seems pretty cut-and-dry to me.
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However it is stolen from a Private showing, thus goes into privacy.
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Your logic is flawed. It is like saying I if you don't shoplift then you loose because you need to pay for the product, and if you do shop lift then you get it for free, so it is better to shop lift. Because if you do get caught shop lifting or piracy, you end up with less rights then you did before, in jail, or at best with a felon on your record, which may prevent you for getting particular jobs. Just as the honest citizen pays higher prices because of the amount of shoplifting so does legal media holde
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It is like saying I if you don't shoplift then you loose because you need to pay for the product, and if you do shop lift then you get it for free, so it is better to shop lift.
Not quite like shoplifting. If it was a matter of free vs. paying for a product, I'd agree. However, with DRM, it is a question of being able to use a product you paid for.
I remember back when the phone company wanted to charge people business rates if they owned a modem. It didn't matter that the modem wasn't being used for business purposes. Very few individuals paid the business rate for phone service. Not just to be able to talk to their friends via modem. Most simply didn't report owning a modem.
I
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Elastic Clause on Unlawful search and seizures which was enforced by the illegal wiretapping.
I realize you're an idiot... (Score:2, Insightful)
"There is NO RIGHT TO PRIVACY, look it up. "
And just exactly where would I "look it up", seeing as there Constitution doesn't discuss what rights we have, but the restrictions placed on those rights for the purposes of governance.
I looked at the 4th and 5th, and didn't see any statement saying you DO NOT have a right to privacy, thereby making your point wrong.
In the future, if you plan to discuss "rights" make sure you understand what you're talking about.
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So axxo-style groups who put ripped DVDs on BT trackers are morally supreme to them, even though their content is high quality and eliminates any incentive a person might have to actually go to a cinema / buy a DVD of a movie they watched as a bootleg camcorder copy?
The end result of what they're doing is largely the same, the only difference is that the DVD rippers usually at least obtain the content in a legal way (DVD purchase).
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Eh... Wolvie had been doing his thing since the 70s. It's not like he was forgotten about until the 90s, he was already an extremely popular Marvel character.
No. Wolverine didn't ruin comics in the 90s. Comics in the 90s ruined themselves.
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In my opinion, that's what ruined comic's in the 90's.
Can I nominate all those "issue" and soap storylines? If I wanted to read about secret love children forced into the child sex trade by getting abducted and being doped up with heroine, well I'd read bad teen lit. I want my superheros to occasionally fight bad guys, not be so caught up in their love triangles it's like "bad guy who?"
Re:ahhh (Score:5, Insightful)
Because he was "cool." And Marvel figured out that all they had to do was put him on the cover of a comic book it would sell. And if you made 3 different versions of the cover, people would buy all three. So then they figured they needed more Wolverine-like characters to sell more comics, so they started making them, and they tended to suck. Then they started letting the comics artists become celebrities, at which point they started to demand their own series. And most of them couldn't write. It was kind of a chain reaction thing.
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I have to say that I agree with you entirely. I still have boxes of the old comics from years ago, I will have to dig them out sometime and see if they're worth anything. How odd is it that your last post was +5 and the one it answers (also your post) was -1? Go figure.
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So then it was really the comic companies, marketing types, and greed that ruined comics.
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Characters with no tension or nuance, but they looked good posing, so that's all they did.
Rob Liefield created the Ginyu Force?
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Hollywood always goes through a series of certain types of movies coming out in bunches. If one can produce a hit movie in one genre then everyone wants a piece of that fan base and they start producing films in the same genre. They did it with Westerns, Cop Dramas, Gang Films, Mob Films, etc... Now they seem to be doing comic book based films.
Being a huge fan of comic books myself I find this great. I don't particularly like the adaptations they seem to be doing, but that in no way means they shouldn't be
Re:Doesn't look too great... (Score:5, Insightful)
So you want a wolverine movie... that isn't just a bunch of violence?
Do you know who wolverine is? Have you ever seen any media with the character before?
"I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I do ain't very nice."
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"I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I do ain't very nice."
Uh... prank phone calls?
Insurance fraud?
Throw me a bone here...
Re:Doesn't look too great... (Score:4, Informative)
Er...I take it you've never read any Wolverine comics? Even the seminal Claremont/Miller limited series back in the '80s was ultra-violent.
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It was Comic-Con, the crowd would have cheered at just about anything.
Unless they have another convention to go to, I'm not really sure they care that this was leaked...they got their 'release' already.
Infact I'm surprised it's not up already...unless they are just letting the 'grass-roots' hype spread for a while.
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Yeah, that audience cheering drove me nuts - and it was so high-pitched! It sounded like an Oprah audience, except presumably it was all young men...
Re:Public Library, check out DVDs for FREE!! (Score:5, Funny)
I'm not paying to see a movie in public, not with the assholes. I'm not paying to rent it, either.
Too many assholes at home?
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Except that Batman Begins was lame too. A secret society of ninjas trying to take over the world? Yeah, right. Maybe it would have fared better had they played up the psychological terror of the Scarecrow instead. It's pretty amazing that The Dark Knight came out as well as it did after what was a ridiculous restart for the film series.
Where is Jubilee? (Score:2)
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Gambit was my favourite X-man!
threw those cards with kinetic energy and carried a long staff!
Personally, I think a large rock would be more effective than thrown cards, as the rock has more kinetic energy than a whole deck of cards.
Hey, look at me! I'm more powerful than Gambit!
Originally he threw metal spikes - more sensible than cards for the reasons you described, and more versatile than rocks...