Wolverine Film Leaked a Month Before Release 464
hansamurai writes "The FBI are investigating the leak of an almost finished copy of X-Men Origins: Wolverine a month before the film's cinema release. The movie was reported to have been downloaded several hundred thousand times and has since been 'removed.' Viewers have called the movie incomplete, missing some special effects and music. Fox and the MPAA are still upset, though, but say the copy is forensically marked and can be traced to the leak. The film is due out May 1st in the United States, and the leaked copy is marked March 2nd."
I missed it? (Score:2)
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Funny)
Yep, you missed it.
For the first and only time, something that has "leaked" to the internet has been completely and utterly removed from it. You need to be quicker next time.
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Funny)
The MPAA downloaded a copy, thereby reducing the number of copies available.
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Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Funny)
Ha ha ha ha ha!
It is the top movie on The "Bay's" top 100 list, with over 20,000 seeders
Achievement Unlocked: "Whoosh"
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Informative)
Then grab a torrent, such as:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4816113/X-Men.Origins.Wolverine.2009.WORKPRiNT.XviD-NoRar
Torrentfreak or slashdot? (Score:5, Insightful)
So has this site given up all pretence of being 'news for nerds' and become a side-project for the pirate bay now?
Every story concerning piracy takes the pirates POV, every criticism of thepiratebay is brushed aside, and now top stories are new hollywood movies, complete with +5 modded links to copyrighted material.
I thought bit-torrent was only used for free speech and linux distros?
+5 hyprocrites
Re:Torrentfreak or slashdot? (Score:5, Insightful)
Wow, hip young trendy kid!
I didn't realise that being able to torrent Hollywood movies was the most important thing the world for nerds.
Has it ever occurred to you that some nerds really don't mind so much paying for music, software and games that they want to use and enjoy?
In fact, nerds should be paying for software more than anyone, because we appreciate the effort involved in its production.
You are confusing nerds with "kids who know how to use a PC."
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That torrent link probably shouldn't ha
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Interesting)
The MPAA/FOX may very well have their eyes on those seeder and peer lists.
I'll take anyone's bet to the otherwise. I have absolute confidence that all the peers in that torrent that have a flimsy ISP will get an email in a week.
Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Funny)
The MPAA/FOX may very well have their eyes on those seeder and peer lists.
I'll take anyone's bet to the otherwise. I have absolute confidence that all the peers in that torrent that have a flimsy ISP will get an email in a week.
Comcast stands their ground, right? Right!?
/franticly loads up killdisk, shreds burned DVDs.
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OH NO!
An EMAIL!
Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Informative)
Only one peer has to be a wolf in the sheep. In a swarm of that popularity, there may be 3500 peers. Odds are slim indeed that all 3500 of them are NOT mpaa agents running BT logging tools. That safepeer or whatever it is isn't providing much beyond a false sense of security. They mainly block known subnets. If someone takes a logger home and loads it on their PC, (and I'm sure they do) then it will sneak into the swarm no matter what you try.
I know several people that have received multiple letters from their ISPs. A couple have been told "one more and we disconnect you". I haven't ran into anyone that's actually gotten the boot though so I don't know if they don't carry through, or if everyone just gives up on BT after the warnings look genuine.
Private trackers (and I don't mean "demonoid" private) are probably the safest way to BT at this time. Those users have to keep a ratio, and the wolves don't usually upload to the swarm, (seeing as that would either #1 be infringement, or #2 produce bad checksums and get you kicked) they just connect and quietly log IPs from the tracker scrapes. Those servers usually introduce some level of responsibility to the inviter for his invite tree also so people don't just invite random individuals, and invites are in too limited a supply to waste.
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Informative)
Second, you can set your client to not download anything but the tiny .NFO file for every torrent, and then share it back. Doing this, you get to watch the IPs connected to the tracker, but never share anything dangerous.
That doesn't work how you think it does. Files are divided into "pieces", which vary in size but are a tradeoff to keep piece size reasonable (~2mb) yet keep total piece count reasonable. (~1000) Too big of a piece size and it takes too long to get each piece. (and too much to redownload if a hash fails) Too many pieces means more tracker overhead and larger .torrent files.
So that .NFO at the front is bundled with perhaps 1.98mb of the start of the next file, in the first piece. There's no way to get (or share) just the .NFO file itself. The torrent pieces are made from a single giant (think TAR) file of the entire torrent. You can see this when you tell your client to download just one specific file. Look at the % complete and you'll notice the file before and after the one you wanted, you have like 2% of. That's because file boundaries rarely match piece boundaries. If you just select the first file, (say its the .NFO) you will download a percentage of the next file also. (you will get all of the first piece) It's totally unavoidable.
(and yes, I wrote a bittorrent client)
Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Insightful)
I'd take my chances at not being the on in 60k they choose to sue.
Seeders: 22425
Leechers:36869
total: 59294
Infact that's a snapshot so you're probably closer to 1 in a million chance of getting sued, IF they choose to sue any of the seeders not just the leak!
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Insightful)
Bah, it's probably just the MPAA's new business model. They know the movie is a piece of crap that won't do well in the theatre... so instead they "leak" it then sue everyone that touches the torrent.
(-1 cynical)
Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Informative)
...because they cannot count to two
Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Insightful)
Each suit is an individual case and stands on its own merits and evidence. They probably don't have the time or money, or expect enough retribution, to sue 60,000 people, or even more than a handful.
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Insightful)
Because the cost involved in trying to track down and sue 60k users, many of whom will be in foreign countries or using isps who won't cooperate would just be stupid.
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Informative)
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Use Peerguardian 2 if you're that worried. It's like a condom for P2P.
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Informative)
Yeah, but like condoms, Peerguardian is not 100% effective.
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Insightful)
I will never again willingly watch anything in a cinema so long as I live. Poor food, poor seats, poor video quality, and most of all poor company. The only advantage cinemas still retain over my living room is their sound systems, and frankly it's not worth the bother. I will wait for the Blu-Ray of any new film. It costs about as much as trip to the cinema anyway.
And if the studio refuses to release in my region simultaneously with others, I'll download the film. Tough luck guys. I had the money in my hand, ready to give it to you, but you gave me the finger instead. So guess what I'm giving you.
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I will never again willingly watch anything in a cinema so long as I live. Poor food, poor seats,
Sad but true. The seating is awful and is almost essential to the overall experience with the movie. My sister was all hyped for me to see The Dark Knight a the Franklin Institute's IMAX claiming it was the greatest. I've never sat in a movie seat that so closely resembled sitting coach in an airline in my life.
The good news is some of the new theaters being built are catching on. I had the pleasure of going to new-ish AMC theater in Paramus, NJ (attached to the mall). It had lots of leg room, great video a
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They're actually fixing this in a cinema near me - they have a screen that only over-18s can go in, regardless of the film.
You'd be surprised how many morons are filtered out when you do that.
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Funny)
We should all go see it in theaters so we would have proof that piracy encourages revenue.
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You've been marked Funny, but that might not be a bad idea. It'd be interesting to see a concrete example: Known movie, leaked, and measurable box office success. Then again, movie beancounters would likely claim that it could have been more...
Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Insightful)
I could probably live with most of these changes but for the screens. I've been to several different theaters here in San Diego, and I constantly marvel at how poor the picture is. The screens are often too bright with no contrast, or blurry. While sound systems seem to get upgraded every few years on a relentless campaign to deafen moviegoers, the screens and projectors seem oddly neglected. I've seen better film quality in the $1.50 theater in Eugene. There's no quicker way to make me feel swindled than to have to squint at a movie I paid close to $10 to view.
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The Alamo Drafthouse Village in Austin just had all of its screens upgraded to Sony's 4K DLP projectors. [originalalamo.com] Only the second theater in Texas to offer films in 4K DLP.
Right now only Sony and WB are distributing films in 4K, but everyone else is expected to jump on board soon. The 4K projectors must have some nice scalar chips in them because 2K films seem more impressive displayed on them as well.
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The new crop of actors are cretinous, pretentious fuckwits who are chosen for their tits and their "real-life" drama which is as manufactured as their movies are. You know things are sad when Hollywood's releasing movies like "X-men 25: Because you'll see it An
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Insightful)
The new crop of actors are cretinous, pretentious fuckwits who are chosen for their tits and their "real-life" drama which is as manufactured as their movies are.
I love to be the one to break this to you: the old crop of actors is primarily a bunch of cretinous, pretentious fuckwits who were chosen for their attractiveness to the public. (There are of course limited counterexamples [wikipedia.org].) Their "real-life" drama was as manufactured as their movies were. One seriously great example is Sean Connery, the favorite James Bond [postchronicle.com]. SNL "Celebrity Jeopardy" -- it's funny because it's true! [cnn.com]
Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Funny)
Did you really just log into slashdot and shit-talk Natalie Portman? Really? Sure, she needed some polish back in The Professional and I cried after watching Star Wars: Episode I (and not because of the emotional scenes). But man, I could forgive Natalie for anything.
That said, overall I agree. I keep trying to like Dollhouse but I just can't get past the acting... Movies recently (Watchmen excepted) have been just as painful.
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Funny)
If she isn't naked and petrified with a bowl of hot grits, Slashdotters are by and large not interested.
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Kelly: Winds are up to 30 moofs.
TV producer: That's miles per hour, you idiot!
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Informative)
You need to watch better movies. :-)
Highlights of the past few years (for me):
Dark Knight
The Reader
Slumdog Millionaire
No Country for Old Men
Serenity
Pan's Labyrinth
Love Actually
Granted, not all of those are Hollywood films but most are. There are plenty of indie films that are likely way better than anything in that list. There was a vampire movie from Sweden, translation: Let the Right One In that had a bunch of hype as the greatest vampire film ever made. I saw it, but I guess my expectations were too high. I still think Fright Night is the best. :-)
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Insightful)
The Joker's point throughout the movie is that people are self-serving and will turn on heroes as soon as it suits their whim. When he talks to Batman in the police station, he basically says as much, explaining that Batman's token obedience to his "one rule" counts for shit when the chips are down. To prove his point, he gives the people on the boat the means to save themselves at the expense of breaking what we would hope is each person's "one rule." The fact that they didn't is the movie telling us that there is hope for people and that we're not just a base collection of alienated individuals. The people on the boat are the ones who really defeated Joker in the movie by rejecting his premise. That's why the ending was so comparatively weak. Batman's not really the hero.
Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Funny)
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IIRC, one of the first things the Joker's recording says is, "If anyone jumps off the boat, I'll blow it up."
Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Insightful)
Did you even see Michael Clayton? Or Little Children, or In the Bedroom, or The Queen, or Doubt.
Guess what, dude. The acting in the original Star Wars and the first three Treks is pretty bad, too; there's nothing exceptionally bad about newer films-- You're just remembering it through rose-colored glasses. Acting in CGI/scifi/action films has always been pretty "eh."
Film has always been a prime actors medium, just not when acting against a green screen.
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Insightful)
There's plenty of great actors and actresses around. The fact that there are a LOT more movies coming out might give the appearance of low quality, but, frankly, there were a lot of low quality movies "back in the day".
As for actors being chosen for their "real life drama", come on. We live in a society of the most venomous fans I've ever seen. If an actor has real life drama it's more of a death knell than a sign of success to come.
Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Informative)
Fun fact- at the height of its output in 1934 or so, MGM was producing a feature film every week, with several simultaneous side units producing episodes of serials ever 5 days or so. All of the other studios had similar output -- even a small studio like Republic could shoot, cut and deliver a western in a matter of weeks; most of these films were average, and are forgotten. Have you any idea how many Wallace Beery boxing films there were? Or Charlie Chan features? There were like 12. You open up a fan magazine from the 30s and you can read about 40 films and you're lucky if you recognize 3 of them.
There's always been gobs of product, and every year only a few of them rise to the top. The quality of feature motion pictures now is probably, in the mean, better I'd say, just because there's so much room now to get downscale stuff release on TV and cable.
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After a night of watching movie channels, I can say authoritatively that the 80's and 90's were chock full of shitty movies.
We tend to remember the memorable movies, which were typically the best. Need I remind everyone of the existence of movies like Tremors, 2, 3, 4 and the series?
Ok, now that your eyes are bleeding from the pain, you'll realize there always were, are and will be shitty movies. Just gotta see the good ones.
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I can think of dozens of movies from 2008 that had all the "depth" you can desire.
Doubt with Phillip Seymour Hoffman, Body of Lies, Milk, Benjamin Button, Changeling and Gran Torino (Clint is the greatest living American director!) Tell No One and those are just a few of the big-studio productions that come to mind without my having to think about it.
I think what you're really trying to say is that there have been no big special-effects extravaganzas like the kind of
Re:I missed it? (Score:5, Insightful)
There is nothing wrong with choosing someone for their tits.
except when it's to watch someone who has no acting talent for 2 hours straight without showing a single nipple...
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Re:I missed it? (Score:4, Funny)
There is nothing wrong with choosing someone for their tits.
Wait, I skipped a couple of posts. Are we still talking about Obama?
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you have a choice of making a movie for
a) 18-20 year old tech savvy males
b) 40+ married couples.
Given that piracy rates for a) will be ten times that of b) and group a) demand a thousand times more sfx, which movie do you think will get funded?
Marvel's "Origin" Series (Score:5, Interesting)
But when I was bored out of my mind one day I picked up the first of a six part series called "Origin" issued by Marvel [wikipedia.org] in 2001.
The story was good (not great) but the art was phenomenal. I am glad they re-worked Wolverine's origin story from whatever they had alluded to before and I recommend you view this series based purely on its art.
I can't find any indication of which story they are basing this film on. I only hope the movie can live up to the beautiful imagery and settings in this series.
I also hold the very unpopular viewpoint that it's basically a slap in the face to an artist to view their work before they're done with it. I also find it laughable that anyone would seek this out aside from people involved in movie production or people interested in this process to study. Do I think it will hurt the movie or cause any amount of financial loss? No, it's merely disrespectful and actually kind of humorous that anyone would ruin the initial exposure of what could amount to a great film.
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I've seen this leaked version of the movie and even though the special effects were rather gray :P I found it to be fairly decent, I think I might see it when it comes out just to see how the special effects turned out.
Re:Marvel's "Origin" Series (Score:5, Insightful)
Do I think it will hurt the movie or cause any amount of financial loss? No, it's merely disrespectful and actually kind of humorous that anyone would ruin the initial exposure of what could amount to a great film.
Do I think that they will use it as a scapegoat, much like Ubisoft did when an unfinished and buggy copy of Assassins Creed leaked [wikipedia.org]? Yes. If their movie doesn't do well in the box office (Well as in higher than their expectations) this will be a perfect excuse for them to use with the media and to investors.
But Honestly... (Score:5, Insightful)
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While I can't I'm sure the movie execs will.
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Can you honestly tell me there are a significant number of people interested in seeing an action movie, minus special effects, who aren't also the fanboy-types who will see it in theatres?
I'm guessing it's more a matter of the same fanboys using up most of their watercooler talk, spreading details of the plot and spoilers over the next two months so that when it arrives they won't attract non-fanboys with the same enthusiasm.
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What really annoys me
The film is not due for release until 29 April in the UK and 1 May in the US.
Why not release it on the same day?
Time Zones.. (Score:2)
no really, I'm always a day late with these things myself
in both cases they want the release to occur on Friday night and get all weekend.
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I think you're reading too much into the disrespect thing. I understand that from an artistic viewpoint you might have a certain idea of how you want your work received, but I think if the viewer receives more joy or whatever emotion from seeing inside the work as it were then it's best if they see it that way. Also you know people are never going to get precisely the experience you want them to, although many may lie within an acceptable range. If you accept that life is in the living, then you should acce
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I kind of agree with you on art.
However, I view this as a corporate production by a committee - not a work of art.
It is no different than the latest "Fry's" add in it's essence.
I'll wait to see the finished product so the product can produce the appropriate tuned, tested, and approved emotional effects.
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The story has common elements, but the details of those elements are very different.
IE, Logan works as a lumberjack and has a vaguely similar traumatic event happen while working there, but it is in a completely different decade and isn't in the same chronological order with other events.
And they kinda screwed up Deadpool.
Re:Marvel's "Origin" Series (Score:4, Insightful)
Out of respect for the artistic integrity of the 20th Century Fox corporation? Now, that's funny.
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If you like the book for its art, check out "Kingdom Come". Hands down, the best artwork I've ever seen in a comic book/graphic novel. Every frame looks like a painting. Good story, too, but the art.... wow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Come_(comics) [wikipedia.org]
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You raise good points, but I think there's one thing to keep in mind.
Legality and everything aside - this is not a DVD rip, this is a workprint.
Workprints are rare - almost collector's items. You get the chance to see behind the scenes like never before. You see wire shots, greenscreen shots, placeholder CGI, rotated scenes, pre-colour corrected scenes, everything. Things you'd never get to see even on a 'making of' extra disc, etc.
Honestly, I enjoyed watching the workprint immensely, for the above reasons.
Re:Marvel's "Origin" Series (Score:5, Insightful)
I would agree with you about most artistic endeavors but not about the sausageworks that is big studio moviemaking. Artistic integrity left that building long ago. I wouldn't be surprised if this were an intentional leak, done to generate more interest in the movie. I didn't even know there was a Wolverine movie being made, but I do now. News = free publicity. And there's no downside. Nobody who wants to see the real movie is going to be satisfied by a work print with missing effects, sound editing and God knows what else.
The Reverse Streisand (Score:4, Insightful)
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Reverse Streisand? I assume that's like the Reverse Cowgirl, only more horrific?
(lulz jk I know about the Streisand Effect. That's when she turns into a giant mechanical monster and battles Sidney Portier and Robert Smith)
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Marked but they haven't arrested the guy? (Score:5, Interesting)
the copy is forensically marked
Ummm if this was true then it wouldn't be an issue of asking the FBI to investigate it would be a matter of telling the FBI which guy to arrest.
It will be interesting to see how long it takes to secure a conviction in this case and just how truthful the statements on protection are.
Re:Marked but they haven't arrested the guy? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Ummm if this was true then it wouldn't be an issue of asking the FBI to investigate it would be a matter of telling the FBI which guy to arrest.
That's only true assuming that only one person is known to have had access to the data stream (provably false.)
1 month (Score:2, Insightful)
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It's leaked 1 month before release. That unfinished copy was already a month old before it got uploaded.
I suspect this has to do with being under paid. (Score:4, Insightful)
This probably all has to do with being under paid in an industry that makes ass loads of cash for the few at the top, and hardly any at the bottom.
Re:I suspect this has to do with being under paid. (Score:5, Insightful)
This probably all has to do with being under paid in an industry that makes ass loads of cash for the few at the top, and hardly any at the bottom.
An industry? You're describing the entire system.
Are you implying this wouldn't have happened in a utopian comunist country?
Re:I suspect this has to do with being under paid. (Score:5, Funny)
That is right, paying workers a fair wage is communist!
I loved the BBC article (Score:5, Insightful)
It talks about how the FBI has been called like it's a major disaster.
I can picture it now:
FBI: Hello FBI?
MPAA: THE NEW WOLVERINE FILM HAS BEEN LEAKED
FBI: SHIT, EVERYONE DROP THEIR RAPE CASES, THEIR KIDDIE PORN CASES, THEIR TERRORIST CASES, THE NEW WOLVERINE FILM HAS BEEN LEAKED WE MUST FIND OUT WHO DID THIS
It's just the way the leak of a film gets more news coverage than more serious stories. It's like it's an international tragedy. I mean seriously, a film with chunks missing, temporary sound, CGI missing and so on. There are companies every day that have their security breached and IP stolen. Why does it get international coverage when it's a half-finished movie?
The real response from the FBI should be:
FBI: Here's your case number, take your ticket and get to the back of the queue
On a side note the BBC also said that Fox has had the download of the new film taken down now - that baffled me a bit, I doubt very much they've managed to get it removed from the whole internet, if they have they're the first company in history to achieve such a thing!
Re:I loved the BBC article (Score:5, Funny)
MPAA: THE NEW WOLVERINE FILM HAS BEEN LEAKED!!!
FBI: Okay. [Frank, turn that off] We've made a note of it. [seriously... no they're on the phone. yes the mpaa. What? No, they're on the phone right now!] Just one second. [Damn did you see him just rip that guy open... no, no let it play a bit now] Ahem, yes so we're on the case! [I can't wait to see what the effects are going to look like] We will umm, let you know when we find something.
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FBI: Hello FBI?
MPAA: THE NEW WOLVERINE FILM HAS BEEN LEAKED
FBI: Wrong number. *Hangs up*
"Shit, there's a leak in project Wolverine. Quick, call agent Manghetto! And put me with the president."
"Mr. Obama?"
"No, the real president. Doctor Doomsday!"
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My guess:
HEADLINE: "Code stolen from (unknown company) that calculates (some random data) STOLEN!!!"
doesn't really relate to anyone where:
HEADLINE: "(a movie you probably want to see) has been STOLEN!!!"
Many more people will relate to and understand. News comes down to numbers.
trying to remove something from the internet... (Score:3, Insightful)
I can't remember where I heard the joke that "trying to take something off of the internet is like trying to get pee out of a swimming pool".
Two things (Score:5, Insightful)
First. I agree with the OP and the BBC. How the hell does this get some sort of express FBI coverage? It's a freaking movie. Not a bomb threat or a kidnapping. So some sweaty fanboy snagged a pre-release copy. So freaking what?
It's sickening how the government will instantly bend over backwards for big business. Pathetic.
Second thing.
But it is reasonable to pursue something like this, because realistically a work print this early will drive down sales in a major way costing the producers millions, easily.
Prove it.
How do you know this won't work like an extended commercial, drumming up interest? Studies have shown that people who illegally download music also happen to spend more on music than other people. [musikas.net]
The FBI may be trying to bust someone who helped, rather than harmed the studio.
The main problem with crap like this is how do you assess damage? We all know that it's possible to skew the numbers in such a way that a single mp3 download is equal to either thousands of hours worth of free advertising, or thousands of dollars worth of lost sales.
Until someone resolves that debate, you really can't call this anything more than a single copyright violation. And certainly not worthy of anything more than a raised eyebrow from the FBI, rather than this gigantic government funded reacharound they're giving the MPAA.
You really think so? (Score:3, Interesting)
Here, go read this: War is a Racket, [lexrex.com] by Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC.
And before you think he's some kind of whacko, know that he is a two time recipient of the Medal of Honor. Here's a quote from him:
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for A
Removed? (Score:5, Informative)
The cat is far out of the bag.
The movie is still available on most major torrent sites.
IsoHunt [isohunt.com]
TPB [thepiratebay.org]
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This is not an April Fool's joke. This is real AND no one can remove shit like this from the internet.
The cat is far out of the bag.
Is it alive?
Re:Removed? (Score:4, Funny)
I never understood the phrase to begin with. It's not like once the cat is out of the bag you can't put it back in.
My wife has two cats that I routinely track down and punish when they've scratched on something they shouldn't or whatever. Cats are not some ephmereal animaal that's impossible to catch or something. It might mean moving furniture or burning down a stand of vegetation, but they are catchable and it's often entertaining to do so.
Article Quotes (Score:4, Interesting)
20th Century Fox confirmed the copy had now been removed
Goodluck with that
The film is not due for release until 29 April in the UK and 1 May in the US.
This just annoys me. Release it on the same date.
"Even if you see the workprint you're still going to have to go see it in the theatre to fully experience the full movie with CGI effects fully intact."
Considering I like action movies on a screen bigger then 48 inches then yes.
According to its website, Rising Sun Pictures is an Australian visual effects company that worked on the film and is currently working on production of Terminator Salvation.
So when can I expect an early release of Terminator salvation?
The Federation Against Copyright Theft said a leak of this kind was extremely unusual as pre-release security had been tightened in recent years.
I had a full dvd rip of LOTR 3 two months before the movie was released to the movie theatres. By full rip I mean the DVD you would buy in stores when the movie was to be released to stores. This is not unusual/uncommon.
We are encouraged by the support of fansites condemning piracy and this illegal posting and pointing out that such theft undermines the enormous efforts of the filmmakers and actors and, above all, hurts fans of the film" the studio said.
Obvioulsy we will condem it, but that won't stop an "estimated several 100,000 times" of downloads from happening.
In 2007 director Eli Roth blamed an online leak of his horror film Hostel: Part II for reducing box office returns.
Yes there will be some people who say "meh i saw an early release so no reason to see it in theatres" There will also be people who want to see the completed version on the BIG screen.
In an interview with MTV he claimed: "You could buy Hostel: Part II for a quarter in Mexico City. As a result, in a lot of countries where the piracy was bad, they just didn't even release it."
This part is a shame...people who are willing to pay 25 cents for the movie because they want to view it but aren't willing to go to the movie theatre or buy it on legit dvd. These movies aren't free to make.
In a change from recent years, the adverts move away from the message that piracy is theft. Audiences will instead see a trailer, fronted by Dr Who actor Noel Clarke, thanking them for paying to come and watch a film.
About time - i would prefer to see someone thanking me when I buy/rent a legit dvd. I understand the need to have the message there, but I have seen it ton of times. I wish they would make it so I could skip over it.
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Re: release date differences, it's only two days. Here in the UK we're getting a Wednesday release because the kids are off school, and it makes the opening weekend number bigger. The US marketing department apparently don't think it's worth doing something other than the usual Friday. It's hardly the biggest difference out there.
As for Hostel II, surely Roth's problem was more the phenomenally bad reviews prior to release that killed it, rather than some unusually large number of pirate copies?
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About time - i would prefer to see someone thanking me when I buy/rent a legit dvd. I understand the need to have the message there, but I have seen it ton of times. I wish they would make it so I could skip over it.
Actually if I buy a DVD I want that DVD to be free of commercials, trailers, of everything but the movie (maybe behind the scenes can stay). Take out all the extra crap. I am paying for the movie. I do not need to see ads or other trailers.
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Nothing gets on my nerves more than unskippable DVD chapters. It's bad enough that the stupid MPAA/FBI warning is pretty much always unable to be skipped, but lots of DVDs actually stick commercials and previews at the beginning that you can't skip over either.
On the other hand, if I pirate the film, I can have it in less than a half hour (less than the time it takes to run to the video store), the movie is never out of stock, I can watch it as many times as I want (making it superior to "on demand"), and all of that annoying crap is removed.
I only buy a movie on DVD if I really, really like it.
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Nothing gets on my nerves more than unskippable DVD chapters.
I don't us it personally, but doesn't DVDShrink take care of that by letting you re author the disk leaving out the parts you don't want? Plus you then use the copy and keep your shiny factory DVD in a safe place where the kids can't trash it...
http://www.dvdshrink.org/why_en.php [dvdshrink.org]
thanks for letting everyone know (Score:5, Funny)
This might change my mind (Score:5, Interesting)
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DON"T READ THIS COMMENT (Score:5, Funny)
I hate to ruin it for you, but he dies in the end.
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Damn! now I have to see the movie to know who is this "he" you are talking about...
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I hate to ruin it for you, but he dies in the end.
Since when did we start referring to freedom in the western world as 'He'?
FBI Resources (Score:5, Insightful)
Its a shame the FBI will spend time and resources to investigate civil crimes such as media piracy --- yet the FBI continuously fails to investigate political corruption, vote fraud, and a number of other seriously criminal acts that happen in the US.
I am somehow reminded (living in CA where it is illegal) of the local police and highway patrol constantly using their Cell Phones while driving...
I guess the FBI knows not to bite the dirty hands that feed them.
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This Will effect how it does in Theatres (Score:4, Insightful)
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