Disney Buys Marvel For $4B 423
whisper_jeff writes "Disney has announced they will be purchasing Marvel. 'Building on its strategy of delivering quality branded content to people around the world, The Walt Disney Company has agreed to acquire Marvel Entertainment, Inc. in a stock and cash transaction, the companies announced today.'"
Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Insightful)
It was a nice run while you had it, Enjoy doing princess disney stories forever more now.
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Batman and Porky Pig (Score:5, Insightful)
Thank god Batman is DC comics.
DC Comics is part of Time Warner. So is Porky Pig.
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I'll take Porky, Bugs Bunny and especially Animaniacs over anything from Disney thanks all the same.
Fox and New Corp (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Fox and New Corp (Score:5, Insightful)
Did you SEE the movies Fox made based on Marvel properties? Other than the first two X-MEN films, it's been wall to wall dogshit. If Fox had bought Marvel instead of Disney, the pathetic whining and moaning from people who don't know what the hell they're talking about would be far worse and far more justifiable. Fox never met the property that they couldn't micro-mismanage into oblivion. They're the ones who hired Brett Ratner to make X-MEN 3. Disney will let Marvel do what Marvel wants to do because Disney likes money. Interference with Marvel would poison the brand and with it Disney's massive investment in it. Disney releases of Marvel films will be through a subsidiary company, most likely Touchstone.
Last time Marvel was owned by a movie studio it was the short lived post-Roger Corman incarnation of New World Pictures. This couldn't possibly turn out any worse than that did.
Also, Marvel/Pixar = WIN.
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Re:Fox and New Corp (Score:5, Informative)
I hate Fox and Rupurt Murdoch, but they were the ones to push the envelope with media. It's too bad Fox didn't have the foresight to buy properties like Marvel so that the seriously adult themes in comics can be fully developed.
Disney bought Miramax in 1993. That's the studio that has released just about every Quentin Taratino film as well as titles like Priest and the Crying Game. I'm not saying Miramax is perfect, far from it, but even under Disney they've released many movies with adult themes.
I'm glad Fox got shut down on this (Score:5, Funny)
Fox News potentially getting it' hands on the Captain America property!?!
Nonono. That must be prevented at all costs.
Re:Batman and Porky Pig (Score:5, Informative)
Gargoyles was produced by Buena Vista Television. A division of Disney.
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Nice you mention that because Gargoyles (and to a lesser extent, Pirates of ...) is the only good thing to ever come out of Disney.
Re:Batman and Porky Pig (Score:4, Funny)
And I, for one, am still waiting for the Batman/Porky Pig The Brave And The Bold team-up issue! Come on, Time-Warner, where's the fan service?
Re:Batman and Porky Pig (Score:5, Funny)
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Thank you all for not making a slashfic joke
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Of course they could all be drooling idiots over there, in which case, expect to see an Iron-man who never drinks, Wolverine who never kills and Mephistopheles who is just a male version of Cruela Devile.
However, everything I have seen so far suggest that Disney is run by the same kind of stone cold business men who
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Disney doesn't destroy (or even Disni-fy) everything they touch. Some of it, maybe.. though I don't know if they necessarily made ABC any worse than it already was.
Keep in mind, they have a number of different studio names for film releases. Sure, if it's a kiddie film, it's put out under the Disney label. If it's a smart kiddie film, it's probably from Pixar, whom they seem to have left pretty much alone. They also own Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, older releases by Dimension Films, and Miramax
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Funny)
The possibilities are endless!
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Funny)
Forget that, I wanna see Marvel/Kingdom Hearts (Score:4, Insightful)
Kitty Pride vs The Heartless
Get Miley Cyrus to play Ben Grimm's girlfriend. (Score:3)
Sam Raimi decides to bring the Fantastic Four into Spidey 4 for a big crossover storyline.
SR: "Who will we cast to play Spiderman's red-headed girlfriend? I know. Kirsten Dunst!"
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SR: "Who will we cast to play Spiderman's blonde haired love interest?"
Is Ron Howard available?
No... he's in Rumania directing "Apollo Splashdown"
SR: "Then get someone else in the Howard family. I must those famous Howard hair genes playing Gwen Stacy"
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SR:"We need to recast Alicia Masters. Tim Story really messed up casting tha
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Insightful)
The beauty of Disney's model is that they sell to six years olds; six year olds with literally no memory and no experience of having seen their product before despite its being over 50 years old. It's as if Disney, as a company, is selling into a market with mass collective amnesia. They never need to innovate.
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Let's be clear about what Disney has put out through their other labels through the years (I'm not holding up any of the following films as anything but examples of diversity in genre):
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Informative)
This is why I typically don't bother posting to Slashdot about this sort of thing... Why would you expect an example of their genre diversity (which is what I said that list was) would be exhaustive?
Since clearly you mistook that for an exhaustive list, here's the actual list of films from the Walt Disney Motion Pictures Group [wikipedia.org]:
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Interesting)
We can't expect Disney to extend these adult issues in a format that might appeal to younger audiences. Indeed, we can't really expect Disney to even appreciate the history of comics from that era.
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Insightful)
Comics (Graphic Novels) were very non-conformist; sensational, graphic, violent, and celebrating the anti-hero. I have no doubt Disney was aware of Graphic Novels, but their approach to medias was orthogonal to the approach by Marvel, et al, and Disney did not seem to try to compete with the themes of comics.
For Disney to now take ownership of those very sources of alternative media is to see that alternative media co-opted, and to lose access to those themes.
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In other words, immature. Aimed at teen boys, like 'mature' modern videogames.
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Funny)
Disney was around at that time. They've been slaughtering Grimm's Tales since 1923. (Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form...)
Klingon?
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Funny)
Disney was around at that time. They've been slaughtering Grimm's Tales since 1923. (Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form...)
Klingon?
Nyet, they were a Russian inwention.
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Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Insightful)
Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form
I don't generally care for Disneyfication of classic stories, but in the case of the Grimm's fairy tales, it's difficult to say that the stories are better or worse left in their original hardcore form.
The original stories weren't so much supposed to be entertainment as moral and cautionary tales. Back in the day, the message to kids of Little Red Riding Hood was very relevant: don't wander around in the woods by yourself or you'll get eaten by a fucking wolf.
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Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form
I don't generally care for Disneyfication of classic stories, but in the case of the Grimm's fairy tales, it's difficult to say that the stories are better or worse left in their original hardcore form.
The original stories weren't so much supposed to be entertainment as moral and cautionary tales. Back in the day, the message to kids of Little Red Riding Hood was very relevant: don't wander around in the woods by yourself or you'll get eaten by a fucking wolf.
It's very easy to say that the originals should be told if you understand the real moral of the story: Red riding hood = Don't talk to strangers, some of them end up murdering you and your family.
Kids need to learn the lesson that there are wolves that do not look like wolves, but are just as scary.
The hardcore original versions are warnings about the real perils of the real world, with animal metaphors. "Protecting" children from them is only good for the wolves.
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Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Funny)
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No they don't, at least those as big as Marvel, it's simply that writers come and go. Fictional universes become popular if they have good writers making interesting stories for them, so any that's remembered has had a "golden age" at some point. And then the good writers leave or become lazy, and the golden age is over and people say that the universe has "lost steam". It hasn't, the coal guy has simply fallen asleep
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Interesting)
I doubt that Disney will interfere much with Marvel's comics, I just hope they give Marvel's movie-production division as much autonomy.
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:4, Insightful)
Under this brand, Disney produced
Starship Troopers, Revelations, Ladykillers, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy , Apocalypto, The Prestige,The Royal Tenenbaums,Dead Poets Society,The Nightmare Before Christmas
See the complete list. [imdb.com]
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Re:Bye bye marvel... (Score:5, Informative)
Disney didn't mess with Pixar too much, when they acquired them.
Conditions were laid out as part of the deal [wikipedia.org] to ensure that Pixar remained a separate entity.
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It was even better than that. They promoted Pixar's John Lasseter to Chief Creative Officer of Animation for Disney. So in a sense, it was Pixar that got to mess with Disney after the acquisition. And given Pixar's track record, that's definitely a good thing.
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And they have a whole new lineup to work with:
Princess Mary Jane
Princess Sue Storm
Princess Elektra
Princess Dark Phoenix
Actually...I'd watch that last one.
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great! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:great! (Score:5, Informative)
-- WSJ coverage of investor call (ongoing) [wsj.com] emphasis mine
Re:great! (Score:5, Insightful)
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Considering Marvel has had many owners, I doubt this will make any difference. Heck, Disney is probably buying this because its suddenly extremely profitable to make movies based on comic book characters, not because they feel there's a need for a Disneyfied Thor or Dr Strange.
I know this is slashdot and we're supposed to see every change as being a corporate conspiracy against us, but frankly, Marvel could use some direction from Disney. A lot of the artwork in Marvel comics is terrible. Its a company th
Boo! (Score:2)
Epic Fail.
Maybe we can get a retcon. Marvel does it all the time anyhow...
A good fit (Score:5, Insightful)
Marvel... The company that sued NCsoft [slashdot.org] for making a game in which superheroes could be constructed because some of them could be made to look like Marvel characters? And then it turned out that the most egregious violators were actually Marvel employees [slashdot.org]?
Sounds like a good fit to me, I'm sure the companies will be really happy with each other.
Hulk vs Donald Duck (Score:5, Funny)
Finally...
Those clashes between Marvel characters and DC Comics ones got boring so now it's time for:
Daisy vs Wolverine
Pinocchio vs Spiderman
Cinderella vs Juggernaut
If they film any of those I am soo going to see this..
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No, no, no. Pinocchio versus Wolverine. Pinocchio keeps lying, but Wolverine slices off his growing nose.
And considering that Disney owns the Muppets also. Hulk versus Mrs. Piggy. Hulk calls Mrs. Piggy fat then look out Hulk!!!! *hiii-yah!*
Re:Cinderella vs Juggernaut (Score:5, Funny)
How about the trend towards "Young ___" ?
Young Cindarella: "Juggy, you're ruining my flower garden!"
Young Juggernaut: "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!"
Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical (Score:2)
Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical (Score:4, Funny)
Spider-man, Hulk, and Iron Man appearing on cruise ships is just as likely.
It could be worse... (Score:2)
They could have bought DC Comics.
Re:It could be worse... (Score:4, Informative)
They could have bought DC Comics.
Warner Bros. already bought DC, but that wasn't necessarily "all, folks" for fans.
Oh goody... (Score:2, Funny)
Now we get to look forward to Donald Duck and Howard the Duck crossovers.
Marvel vs Capcom vs Disney anyone? (Score:2, Interesting)
Now the Biggest Question? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Unless they want to be sued, as well as losing some popular attractions, they'll stick to their contract - I.E., yes they will continue paying. Why is this even a question?
strategy (Score:2)
Building on its strategy of delivering quality branded content to people around the world
that's a stupid strategy. what a dumb idea. It reminds me of Mr Burns - "Strawberry - hit a home run!"
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We've finally given up thinking of our own ideas and as soon as existing licensing deals run out we are going to squeeze the Marvel universe for everything we can get out of it, by giving it the "Disney" treatment".
Although... Pixar doing Marvel comics? Could be good.
Cool so we will have Cross Brand Cartoons with (Score:2)
Doctor Strange against the Beagle Boys !
And Donald Duck will go rafting with wolverine...
And of course "Moovies": Xmens the clueless episode !!!
And Marvel theamed movies will always end "cute"
Somehow this does not seem a good news
I am so glad I'm not a major comic geek (Score:2)
Or at least not very interested in mainstream American costumed super-hero books. Otherwise I'd be dying inside right now. I feel that way every time EA buys up another studio.
can you say "price increase"? (Score:4, Insightful)
Quality branded content (Score:3, Interesting)
You just need to realize which modifier is modifying what:
It may look like:
quality (branded content)
But really they mean:
(quality branded) content
Universal Orlando (Score:4, Insightful)
Wonder how this will affect the licensing for the Comic Book area at Universal Orlando long term. It's ALL Marvel, including the "Hulk" roller coaster.
I suppose it'll just continue for a while though, the whole thing is pretty incestous.
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It would probably depend on the ride, but even heavily themed rides like Top Gun and Tomb Raider made quick transitions with simply removing the resp
Meh (Score:4, Interesting)
Marvel has been going downhill for a long time. So much so that I consider this deal to be part of a natural progression. Between poor writing and poor management, I haven't seen anything good from Marvel Comics since the late 90s, or maybe early 00s. Some of their movies have been good, some have been horrid. I know "continuity" is optional at best, but you can only "re-imagine" a plot so many times before it becomes complete drivel.
This deal will ruin Marvel like old mayonnaise ruins a dog crap sandwich.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... (Score:5, Interesting)
... But doesn't Universal Pictures own the rights to many Marvel comic book movie properties? How's that going to work?
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Anyway, I believe any current deals will stay, but then when they expire it's assumed that they won't Marvel/Disney won't renew them.
Finally! A justification for Howard the Duck! (Score:5, Funny)
Not the movie, the Marvel character. Now Howard the Duck will finally be able to admit he's from the same universe as Donald. My inner geek is sated!
what a Shame (Score:5, Funny)
I'm just going to repeat what pretty much everyone is saying; f*ck Disney and RIP Marvel
And they all lived FOREVER... (Score:4, Insightful)
Now we can rest assured that the Marvel characters will never fall into the public domain and live as part of the Disney brand for the rest of time.
As foretold by the Beautiful South (Score:4, Interesting)
"Like the toupee on a fading fame
The final whistle in a losing game
Thick lipstick on a five year old girl
It makes you think it's a plastic world
A plastic world and we're all plastic too
Just a couple of different faces in a dead man's queue
The world is turning Disney and there's nothing you can do
You're trying to walk like giants
but you're wearing Pluto's shoes
And the answers fall easier from the barrel of a gun
Than it does from the lips of the beautiful and the dumb
The world won't end in darkness, it'll end in family fun
With Coca Cola clouds behind a Big Mac sun "
Surely this must be a sign of the Apocalypse...?
Maybe Marvel will change Disney (Score:5, Interesting)
Perhaps Marvel will help Disney with their "anti-two parent home" rage. Disney has always HATED two parent families.
Don't believe me?
Where are Donald's nephews parents?
Ariel's mother?
Goofey's Wife?
Scrooge's Parents?
Mickey's?
Miney's?
That little brat from Tailspin?
Jasmine?
I mean holy crap they hate parents apparently they are either dead or MIA!
Marvel has plenty of Parents, Kids, Grandkids, hell whole genetic lineages running through the ages.
Perhaps, just maybe, Disney will learn from Marvel... we can hope some day for an answer to the anti-parent obsession the Disney corp has...
Stop teh h8 Disney! Stop teh h8! :)
Re:Maybe Marvel will change Disney (Score:4, Informative)
One word: Spider-Goofy (Score:4, Funny)
As he web slings around town he shouts "AHH-HOO-HOO-WEEE".
75 of what? (Score:3, Funny)
"Disney Buys Marvel For $4B" - That's 75 in decimal. But 75 of what?
Oooh! I can smell a "South Park" episdode brewing (Score:3, Interesting)
Wow. Marvel has sucked at controlling its rights. They fling their lawyers around like idiots with dice. Remember "Marveloution" back when they tried to buy up all the comic book distributors and have their own little "Marvel" stores?
Fail. They were too inept. Bit off more than they could chew. The screwed up the comics industry but good so that it took nearly a decade for everybody to get back on their feet.
Now Disney, on the other hand. . .
They know how to suck the soul out of a property and employ slave labor in China to make toys in a manner only Todd McFarlane could fantasize about! Oh yes indeedy! --The seedy beginnings of Marvel, (Didja know it sprang from the same family publishing um. . , 'empire' from which the classy skin-mag "Hustler" grew? Now you do. You're welcome.), all the way through their never quite taken seriously by 'real' publisher trajectory. . , that's what makes Marvel Marvel.
And that's why Marvel has always felt edgy and honest, (if adolescent and stupid half the time) and all kind of held together with spit and. . , well, staples. It's been run by a long succession of people who don't fit into respectable society and who don't really understand business, --and who had a lot of fun (and a lot of burn-out) as a result. For all its warts, I love Marvel. --While Disney is pretty much an evil entity; It has no character and no soul except the practiced gleaming smile of a charming sociopath. --Hopefully they'll catch whatever Marvel has, get the shakes and die. But I'm not holding my breath on that.
I hope comic shops don't change too much. Comic shops are one of the few paper media outlets which don't feel like they've sold out. (They would have if they could, and heaven knows they've tried, but the truth is, they've never had any capital the rest of the world really wants or understands, and so selling out hasn't been a serious option until these movies started coming out. Until then they had nothing to sell but adolescent power/sex fantasies and the occasional gem tagging along for the ride. If Disney gets its teeth in, do we really think that people like Jeff Smith and Dave Sim could have done their thing?) Hopefully Manga will keep things creepy and weird enough to prevent the grown ups from tidying up.
After all, there's a dark and a light side to everything. Maybe Disney won't screw it up.
Heh. Yeah. . . You gotta have a dream.
-FL
Re:The bigger these behemoths become... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:GREAT! (Score:5, Insightful)
The great suckage.
I buy no Disney. They are cultural programming of the lowest order. You want a rotten child? Let them watch Disney channel 2 hours a day.
If you could contrive propaganda aimed at undermining basic human values, specifically that of respect, you could do no better than to come up with this garbage. It is particularly detrimental to the child / parent relationship - always portrayed as a way to manipulate or deceive the old buffoons.
Disney is death.
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Re:GREAT! (Score:5, Funny)
Did he immediately start smoking, drinking cappuccino and talking about how the capitalist bastards are going to ruin everything?
Re:GREAT! (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:GREAT! (Score:5, Informative)
Disney also owns Touchstone, Miramax, Hollywood Pictures, ABC and ESPN. The original reason Disney bought Touchstone was to release non-G rated movies separate from the Disney label.
Touchstone, Hollywood and Miramax all release R-rated movies including the likes of Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction, No Country for Old Men, Reservoir Dogs, The Crow and Con-Air.
Re:GREAT! (Score:5, Informative)
he original reason Disney bought Touchstone was to release non-G rated movies separate from the Disney label.
I'm pretty sure that Disney itself founded Touchstone.
Re:GREAT! (Score:5, Funny)
Those entities don't do animation, do they?
I have a hard time believing Disney will allow 'PG-13+' animation to come from one of their properties - it's too close to the core.
I'm picturing Wolverine with sporks.
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Who cares? Super hero animation is stuck on TV
no, it's mostly direct-to-DVD. Check out Netflix.
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And those DVD's play where? They are some of the worst part of the Japanese animation that some think of as ubercool. The story lines are still adolescent quality with nothing that drove the revolution into the graphic novels and bleeding edge.
If they had one scintilla of a real Frank Miller, instead of paying a passing homage, then maybe I'd given them respect.
Let me put it plainly, so you can see where you went wrong:
The current crop of anime compared to where comics have gone, is the same as where SyFy i
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You do know Disney owns a PLETHORA [wikipedia.org] of media companies. Many of which do some pretty gruesome stuff. [www.lmn.tv]
A plethora... (Score:3, Funny)
You do know Disney owns a PLETHORA [wikipedia.org] of media companies. Many of which do some pretty gruesome stuff. [www.lmn.tv]
Jefe, do you know what a plethora is?
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Yes, I think he used the word correctly, even giving link to it.
On the other hand ... Beware the Imposter! You can clearly see, he can't even spell his nick right.
Re:A plethora... (Score:4, Funny)
Forgive me, El Guapo. I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education. But could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?
Re:GREAT! (Score:5, Funny)
Nonono, now we can finally answer the age old question: can Mickey kick Wolverine's butt, all in eye watering 3D!
rawstory.com had Wolvie Mouse graphic for story... (Score:4, Funny)
...posted for a while.
Here's a link...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4OYGjUrdllo/SKZDW56FpYI/AAAAAAAAGLA/zHFGEjuqpPk/s400/WolvieMickey.jpg [blogspot.com]