E. Coli Can Be Used To Clean Up Nuclear Waste 102
jerryjamesstone writes "Researchers have found that E. coli can be used to recover uranium from tainted waters and can even be used to clean up nuclear waste. Using the bacteria along with inositol phosphate, the bacteria breaks down the phosphate — also called phytic acid — to free the phosphate molecules. The phosphate then binds to the uranium forming a uranium-phosphate precipitate on the cells of the bacteria. Those cells can then be harvested to recover the uranium." What has made this 14-year-old process economically feasible is the use of inositol phosphate, which is a cheap waste material from the production feedstock from plant material.
Just cuddling (Score:5, Funny)
I for one... (Score:3, Funny)
I for one welcome our new radioactive, disease spreading overlords!
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This is highly unlikely. While exposure to radioactivity promotes mutation, nearly all of it is fatal or detrimental to the mutant. Remember that the radiation is causing mutation by creating breaks in the DNA strands, basically causing irreparable damage.
Mutations and environment (Score:2)
But all this mutation talk seems like it's off-topic. I'm more interested to hear more about this technique of precipitating metals using phytic acid.
We have large uranium mine tailings that need to be cleaned up. We also have other radioactive materials that need to be neutralized.
Also, I wonder if this technique can be used to extract materials suc
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Yes, it is possible some viable mutants will result. However, would the chances be any higher of producing a strain of E. coli that are deadlier to humans? I doubt it.
Back on topic, is the uranium-phosphate that is produced still radioactive, or does this just make it easier to extract and remove from the environment?
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Yes, it is possible some viable mutants will result. However, would the chances be any higher of producing a strain of E. coli that are deadlier to humans? I doubt it.
Increasing the mutation rate has to increase the chances of mutants that are both viable and more harmful. Mutations from radiation are essentially random, so more mutation events means more mutation varieties, and so a greater chance of something very bad happening. Analogy: a handful of 5 6-sided dice. If you roll those dice once an hour, your chances of rolling all sixes in any day is very low: 1 in 324. If you roll them every 5 seconds you don't have a better shot at all sixes in any particular roll (1
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Besides, bacteria mutate at a very high rate as it is, since they have such short generation gaps.
So even if some radiation-induced mutations survive, it's probably not going to be a significant increase in mutation rate.
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First off, naturally occurring Uranium isn't all that radioactive. For the most part its U238, which doesn't give off much radiation. And, spent reactor fuel is even more skewed towards U238, otherwise known as Depleted Uranium, the stuff the military uses for armor piercing bullets. You can hold either of this stuff in your bare hands and not have any ill effects. One thing to keep in mind with radioactive materials, the stuff which has half lives of millions or billions of years (U238 is 4.46 billion years, U235 is 703 Million years) isn't producing a heck of a lot of ionizing radiation. The problem with Uranium is that it is a toxic heavy metal, and like other toxic heavy metals (lead, thorium) it will deposit in your internal organs, build up and eventually kill you.
The second problem with the mutated E. Coli of Death is that the vast majority of mutations will result death fairly quickly. Of the ones which don't, they will probably just result in death slowly. Yes, the E. Coil could get some sort of useful mutation out of it, but it's not really more likely to happen in this cleanup site than anywhere else.
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You can hold either of this stuff in your bare hands and not have any ill effects.
Boy to people always forget the fourth dimension.
The question is *how long* you can do that, and *how strong* the effects will be.
Without time, I could say that I can hold my hand into fire. (For some milliseconds.)
The problem with Uranium is that it is a toxic heavy metal, and like other toxic heavy metals (lead, thorium) it will deposit in your internal organs, build up and eventually kill you.
Aaah... There's the (partial) answer. ;)
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Or the bacteria can give us all super powers
Radioactive e-coli? (Score:5, Funny)
Someone's bound to get bitten, and then what?
Will e-coliman protect us from the villains?
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He's got that dark, brooding, lone wolf hero thing going.
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Re:Radioactive e-coli? (Score:4, Funny)
Ingenious (Score:5, Funny)
So a combined chemical and biological threat can defeat a nuclear one, after all!
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Truly the modern age has arrived when rock, paper, scissors is replaced by chemical, biological and nuclear...
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So a combined chemical and biological threat can defeat a nuclear one, after all!
The damage rolls back at 255.
If you find yourself in a chemical, biological, nuclear zone, shoot yourself in the head every five seconds or so.
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Dude, how many universes must you post that in? Give it a rest already!
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I just bind quicksave and quickload to the left and right mouse buttons.
But your way works too.
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Bad timing (Score:4, Funny)
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It's okay, we've got a few e-coli infested "petting farms" in the UK at the moment ;)
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Your children multiple at uncontrollable rates without any external interaction? Wow, I'd certainly be worried.
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Additionally, they have all the intelligence of a single-celled organism.
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Children are not bacteria. They may seem like it some times, but they're not.
True, at least antibiotics can kill off most bacteria. Children continue to survive. Mmmm, radioactive bacteria. At least next time I eat contaminated beef my skin should have a nice healthy glow.
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Well, counted by mass percentage, they might as well be.
dirty skanky bastards (Score:2)
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But then the radiation will get them!
Hah! then... (Score:4, Funny)
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I'd say the nuclear waste has a shorter half life than a McDonalds burger. The waste is probably easier to digest for the poor thing. Think of the E.Coli!
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Re:Hah! then... (Score:4, Funny)
When hunger comes, you'll eat anything.
I mean, sooner or later you'll have no more corpses, and then, you'll have to choose between McDonalds and Spam.
The radiation inmunity just tips the balance to the clown pit.
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Nah. What's with the plants around you. And if everyone is dead, there will be more food that you could possibly eat.
Oh, Well... (Score:2, Funny)
Shit happens.
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Critical mess (Score:3, Funny)
One day we will find out that e-coli prefers uranium-235, not long after it happens to make a nice deposit of this benign material.
nucular. (Score:4, Funny)
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"i'm sorry, but it's pronounced 'nucular'."
Wow, I didn't know YouTube has clips of Jimmy Carter's old speeches.
I for one... (Score:1, Offtopic)
as a professional microbiologist ... (Score:3, Informative)
even better would be E. coli, but perhaps I ask too much :(
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What's the reason for the italic?
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Terms should not rely on typography. And the case... what's whit that? :)
You should learn to back your arguments with something, so you can be taken seriously.
Edwina Currie is the answer (Score:1, Troll)
Conveniently... (Score:2)
Finally a use for all the defunct petting zoos! (Score:3, Funny)
Just build petting zoos on top of nuclear waste dumps. Problem solved! [sky.com]
Naturally (Score:5, Funny)
Uranium is the element named after Uranus, right ? No wonder it attracts E.Coli.
depressing... (Score:3, Insightful)
All those commenters that need to make that very funny joke about E.coli => poop. Man, that was funny when you were 6, not 20 or 30 years later.
But to go back on topic: This looks a bit like a solution looking for a problem. How much low grade uranium waste is there anyway? Or do they propose to use it in primary uranium mining, to make low uranium content ore usable?
Yes there is an unsolved waste problem with uranium fission, but this proposed solution is no solution to that.
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Man, that was funny when you were 6, not 20 or 30 years later.
But at 40 and 50 years later its pure comedy once again.
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99,9...% of random mutations cause premature death. Of the beneficial ones, exactly 0% cause the bacteria to transform into man-eating eldritch abominations. "Dangerous mutants" are a pop culture thing and pretending they are a real possibility is funny.
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"What do we do with the waste? Not in my back yard!!!"
"The run off from uranium mining can rape the local flora. Not in my back yard!!!"
It isn't about solving some huge looming problem. It is about pacification of people's irrational fears so we can actually build nuclear power plants and stop spewing mercury an
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By all means, pacify irrational fears.
However, being worried about the environmental impact of uranium mining (beyond NIMBYism), about the security and weapon proliferation issues involved in putting plutonium factories all over the place, and about the lack of a solution for waste disposal, is not ir
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There is nothing irrational about not wanting to ingest radioactive isotopes because they have been bio-concentrated by the environment into the food chain. Once radioactive isotopes are *inside* the body the mutagenic properties cause cancers. If this stops excess uranium entering the environment then that is a good thing. Unfortunately there are a p
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They should move on to molten-glass Thorium reactors really though, Uranium's so 1945.
I love science! (Score:2)
I love hearing about turning aids into a cancer fighting ailment.
I love hearing about using waste from the farms to develop the ecoli, which will then recycle the nuclear waste we are accumulating.
Imagine if now, the nuclear waste did not have to go missing off the back end of ships and trucks everywhere, because we had a safe means of disposal....it would not only make the garbage management industry falter, but make us rethink our failure to adopt nuclear energy as a viable source for cities everywhere.
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I long for the day when the "Green" movement is forced to concede that nuclear power is the ONLY path to true energy independence and abundance. I'm not interested in your pre-industrial-revolution utopia.
We had some ideas for energy independence, but unfortunately they had to be abandoned. It turns out that violations of the Second Law of Thermodynamics make atheists cry.
Hot Frongs On The Loose! (Score:1)
Paging Fred Small, paging Fred Small, there's a song in this story trying to get out.
Fermi 2 wastewater was dumped into Lake Erie (Score:1)
Hot investment tip (Score:1)
Glowing Excrement! (Score:1)
Obligatory Futurama reference (Score:2, Funny)
How will this affect my nuclear piles?
Not the "Japanese Miracle" (Score:2)
The reference to Ghost in the Shell is tempting, but unfortunately, the "Japanese Miracle" from GitS involved using nanomachines for radiation clean-up. Still, pretty interesting.
The article says it can clean up nuclear waste. Does this mean it can clean up sites where a nuclear explosion has taken place? (Sorry if that's a dumb question, I'm not that knowledgeable on this). If so, I am more interested in what this will mean politically: does this mean using nuclear weapons has become a much easier option?
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I never knew that nuclear blast zones were so contaminated that they were of much concern. I always thought that the hundreds of thousands killed in an instant was the deterrent, not the expensive clean up.
The cartoons? (Score:1)
All jokes aside, nuclear waste "mutated" E Coli. Why am I the only one who thinks this is a bad idea?
Making life radioactive? is that really a good idea?
I wonder when they will find out... (Score:2)
That everyone down that river now constantly shits his pants, instead of losing hair, and that that makes them die even quicker. :P