SCO Assets Going To October Auction 217
An anonymous reader noted that the SCO Group is having a
bankruptcy auction in October. The article says 'After bankruptcy in September 2007, SCO and an affiliate filed schedules listing combined assets of $14.2 million and debt totaling $5.2 million.' I wonder if we could all chip in and buy something as a sort of 'Thanks for being a pimple on the face of humanity' present.
First bid! (Score:4, Funny)
$50 for Darl McBride's greased Yoda doll!
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I want the suitcase which contained the proofs that the code is theirs.
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Unicorn manure is GREAT for growing sweet & sour corn.
Re:First bid! (Score:5, Insightful)
Unicorn manure is GREAT for growing sweet & sour corn.
Only on /. does this get flagged as "Informative".
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Right now it's 40% informative, 20% offtopic and 20% redundant. Somebody with mod points needs more coffee this morning.
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That's 'cause I already bought them for $5. Yeah, all those companies owe me big time...
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Maybe the rights to Unix were sold to the lawyers in lieu of payment in cash.
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I didn't see the rights to Unix listed in their assets for sale. Must be an oversight or something ...
That's because they sold the rights to me in advance. Y'all will be hearing from my attorneys shortly.
Or his house? (Score:5, Informative)
Go here [recontrustco.com] Select Utah, then Salt Lake, then Look down the page for "VINTAGE OAK"
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So waitaminute... you'd think he made a killing off of kiting SCO stock as hard as he did. Now his house is up for foreclosure?
The only guess I can make is that the idiot over-invested in real estate... which in turn only bolsters the phrase "never attribute to malice what can be better described by stupidity". That is, maybe McBride really is that stupid (well, okay, like we needed even more proof, but still...)
House is in one hell of a nice neighborhood, though...
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Last chance to buy a license for Linux!
A company I used to work for actually had one of those - I wish I had saved it as a relic of the crazy.
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who would of knew (Score:3, Funny)
Re:who would of knew (Score:5, Funny)
You've created a unique combination of errors in your sentence. I am baffled as to what's going on in your head.
Re:who would of knew (Score:4, Funny)
It's the SCO defense... where have you been?
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Works for lawyers.
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It was a good business for the execs who had the stock for a while and then dumped it at the end of the pump phase. It just wasn't good business for the less-inside stockholders, who didn't know they had been lied to about the merits of the case.
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Really? Your command of written English is so poor that you actually thought that this was correct and then posted it here?
Taking a quote from your posting history (for which you got modded up as +4 Insightful, for reasons I simply cannot understand, just because it is a gross over-simplification): http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1733202&cid=33040180 [slashdot.org]>: "There is education and then there is training figure out which one you want and get it. Most everything these days is geared tow
Face? (Score:2, Insightful)
I think you meant "ass".
Corporate Reality (Score:5, Insightful)
Darl McBride's new corporation, OCS, will buy all of the assets at auction for a fraction of the original cost, and continue exactly where he left off with the lawsuits, only this time with a brand new credit rating and no debt to bog him down.
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Darl McBride's new corporation, OCS, will buy all of the assets at auction for a fraction of the original cost
Hmm. I bet he sure wouldn't appreciate people bidding for the purpose of making him pay more.
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Darl McBride's new corporation, OCS, will buy all of the assets at auction for a fraction of the original cost, and continue exactly where he left off with the lawsuits, only this time with a brand new credit rating and no debt to bog him down.
True, from the wiki on McBride
"On April 9, 2010 McBride purchased the SCO Mobility intellectual property from The SCO Group for $100,000"
An asset that McBride had before referred to being worth millions.
IBM should buy everything they can (Score:2)
And then erect a great bonfire with everything they've bought; Perhaps even driving a wooden stake through a boxed copy of whatever SCO was still selling, after sprinkling it with holy water first. And at the end, the ashes could be scattered in the wind or buried underneath a crossroads...
IBM already made an example of them. This would be a nice way to end the saga.
An Idea (Score:2)
There is a tradition. (Score:5, Informative)
Once upon a time there was a practice known as the "penny auction".
Bad Reporting? (Score:5, Informative)
The bankruptcy judge called for a Chapter 11 trustee in August 2009, about one month before the U.S. Court of Appeals in Denver ruled in the company’s favor after six years of litigation with Waltham, Massachusetts-based Novell Inc. The case went back to the district court, where the judge and jury further clarified SCO’s rights in certain Unix software incorporated in software for network systems.
Reading that section, it would seem that SCO won their case against Novell. But that's not the case. SCO won certain points in the bankruptcy case like receiving Chapter 11 designation instead of Chapter 7 which Novell and U.S. Trustee's Office wanted. But it had to accept a trustee in place of management handling the bankruptcy. It definitely lost the Novell case.
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SCO Misrepresenting something? I don't believe you!
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"Clarified [their] rights" means clarified what they did or did not have. That it happened to lean decisively to the latter doesn't make the language inaccurate -- as a non-lawyer who maybe has read somewhat more legalese than the average layperson (a few law classes back in school, and my wife is a paralegal), I didn't even think it misleading.
I'd pay $100 (Score:2)
For the shrunken head of Darl McBride.
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C'mon, this is /. (Score:2)
What is bid for a Darl swirly in the Goatse guys Arse?
Bidding starts at $100.
There's a rumor that Natalie Portman is warming hot grits in Soviet Russia at the thought of posted photos... :)
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Hey, stop that! You may have just created enough of a market to save SCO!
Got an idea (Score:3, Interesting)
Let's all chip in, buy the whole mess, release anything of value to the public domain, then burn the rest.
I'll kick in $20 for that. Heck, I might be persuaded to donate a Bennie.
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Let's all chip in, buy the whole mess, release anything of value to the public domain, then burn the rest.
(Thinks back on SCO's recent output.) So, burn everything then?
Oooh! Oooh! (Score:2)
Are they going to auction off their rights to Linux? Because those might well turn out to be a goldmine if someone decided to sue some Linux vendors with them.
(I'll be here all week!)
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Of course they will. It's about the only thing they have that the vultures might want.
I'll take the UNIX copyrights and SYSV rights (Score:5, Funny)
For $10
So I can start a small litigious company to aggressively defend Linux and pursue proprietary "Windows" OS vendor(s) whose names start with "M".
Answering the question... (Score:2)
As to "I wonder if...," no, we really shouldn't give those attention whores any further reward. The best thing to do from here is to ignore the bastards.
SCOXQ already has a "stalking horse" buyer. (Score:4, Interesting)
They essentially know who's going to bid.
Any bets on who? My money is on Yarro.
The man who would be king. (Score:4, Insightful)
Let this be a lesson for all those whose greed surpasses a normal man's measure... ... for all those who want power over others' knowledge... ... who want to leverage the State to oppress the weaker... ... who think they can sit on previous conquests and not work anymore... ... who think they can stop mankind evolution... ... who think they or their country is above the others... ... who think first of their friends instead of humanity as a whole... ... who try to take what they cannot ever return.
This is a spaceship which we cannot control, but one we can destroy.
Let this be the beginning of our awakening.
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The enforcement portion of the patent system is the courts.
some corrections (Score:2)
1 they will be defeated in the IBM case by something called THE TRUTH
2 they have been roasted in court by NOVELL (and what a long slow roast it has been)
Zits (Score:3, Interesting)
That's a rather delicate way of putting it. I confess to having a lower opinion.
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"Pimple on the face of humanity."
That's a rather delicate way of putting it. I confess to having a lower opinion.
You mean like a pimple on a lower part of the anatomy?
Or maybe (Score:2)
Or a chancre.
Sco Auction? (Score:3, Funny)
Why wait? (Score:3, Funny)
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Buy any computers and hard drives for sale (Score:5, Interesting)
I'd buy any computers and hard drives I could find, then check to see if any data is left on them. If it appeared the drives were wiped, I'd go over them with data recovery software. You never know what interesting tidbits one might find on those things.
At worst, you'd get some hardware. At best, you might find some extremely incriminating evidence. It likely wouldn't hold up in a court of law, but can you imagine the PR damage it could do to certain companies if it ended up online?
And even if all you end up with is a bunch of random data, save it as an image file and post it online for people to download and try to decipher. It could provide countless hours of entertainment for years to come.
Doing this might also provide a bit of insurance against any vultures buying the contested IP and carrying on with this shakedown scheme. No matter what might be on those drives, they could never know for sure how damaging the info might be, so it may give them pause, lest some bombshell appear at some point down the road. They'd essentially have a big black box floating around out there that contains either nothing at all or information that could prove disastrous to them, and that black box is constantly being picked at by folks trying to unlock it. Would you want to risk a bunch of money pursuing shaky legal claims with that uncertainty out there?
As I recall (Score:4, Funny)
I believe my share is supposed to be $699 per CPU.
Better put me down for several thousand dollars. I have installed Linux quite a few times
That should really be worth a lot... (Score:2, Insightful)
After bankruptcy in September 2007, SCO and an affiliate filed schedules listing combined assets of $14.2 million and debt totaling $5.2 million
After almost three years of depreciation, I'm sure their assets are worth a lot. I have a few three-year old computers around, I'll happily sell them for cheese.
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combined assets of $14.2 million and debt totaling $5.2 million
I don't think those numbers are right. I don't think you can file for bankruptcy if your assets are roughly three times greater than your debts.
Or is there another way of reading the sentence that I am not seeing?
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The combined assets likely include non-liquid assets like real estate and office furniture. IANAL, but from my understanding you can go into Chapter 11 pretty much any time your liquidity falters and you can't realistically service your debts and still maintain business procedures.
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I can get you lots of cheese. How many pounds of cheddar for a Core 2 Duo with 2 gigs of RAM?
First time I've sworn on here... (Score:2)
GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE.
I mean, sure, this is the final phase of beating a dead horse. But dear LORD, this took for ever. Finally -- finally! -- SCO and AdTI are both "yesterday's news."
Liquidation (Score:2)
I'd like to be in the viewing audience when they liquidate Darl.
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I think I prefer your interpretation. Let the liquefaction begin.
SCO is dying (Score:2)
This begs for a "SCO is dying [hiro-tan.org]" post.
Could we buy the brand? (Score:4, Funny)
Couldn't the slashdot community buy the brand? If everybody donates a few bucks and we bid that sum for the brand and then use it to release FOSS, print cool t-shirts and use the sco website to make fun and jokes about MS, Mc Bride or whatever the f*ck his name is and his entourage. Wouldn't that be worth it? Ever since they did the caldera back-and-forth and then switched to pissing of the entire nix community the brand is dead anyway. It can't be that expensive, no?
We could also release a debian rebrand as 'SCO Unix 2010' for 200$ a pop and donate the proceeds to EFF, FSF and any other organisation that goes against patent and IP trolls. That would actually be usefull, no?
Just an idea.
Oooooh Yeah (Score:2)
Disco STU is gonna do some GRAVE DANCIN'
Oh Yeah!
Fine Print (Score:2)
The trustee's sale of the aforedescribed real property will be made without warranty as to title, possession, or encumbrances.
Sounds like selling a pig in a poke.
Darl Dunk Tank (Score:2)
Can I buy it? (Score:2)
Anything of Value? (Score:5, Interesting)
They have two things that would be good for open source. One is the old "Documenter's Workbench". It was a proofing tool that had lots of good AI stuff from Bell Labs. The other useful thing they might have as the old Toolchest selection of software. I figure either would be worth $100 or so just to release into the public domain. The spell checker in the DW had some interesting stuff like knowing how you make typos and it also had some ideas about reducing vocabulary so the wrong synonym was less likely to end up in your technical document.
Story from the top (Score:5, Interesting)
Ok, let's see if I have the story right:
1. Caldera sells OpenLinux.
2. Caldera sells company to a group of stupid, evil or evil & stupid investors.
3. SCO seeing Linux eating up their microcomputer Unix biz sells it to Caldera.
4 Caldera rebrands as SCO and the real SCO changes in to Tarantella.
6. SCO tries to get everyone who has linux to give them some money for a promise not to sue or something because they own Unix.
7. SCO decides that IBM and AutoZone are good targets for a bizarre lawsuit, despite both firms having at least as much money as God.
8. Somewhere along the line someone points out that SCO does not actually own the copyrights to Unix, and they distributed Linux under the GPL for a long time. And bragged to the public about it.
9. SCO sues Novel hoping that the judge will have a bad day and just give the copyrights to Unix to them and break a contract that they accidentally bought from SCO.
10 SCO sees that the judge is not going to have a bad day, and files for bankruptcy to get another judge, who may have a bad day and make SCO's fantasy reality.
11. Bankruptcy judge does not have a bad day.
12. SCO tries to appeal, but appears to have ran out of gas.
I'm gonna own SCOSource (Score:2)
Chip in to buy the Companies Instead (Score:2, Interesting)
It might be more productive if we could chip in to a single non-profit company that would buy up the absurd patents or the entire company that holds them.
The company could put them into the public domain, or just blanket-license them for members at low cost.
Note to Caldera/SCO (Score:3, Interesting)
Thank you for Caldera Network Desktop, which made online package repositories work well. It was a groundbreaking product that could have been the dominant distribution today if you hadn't given in to the dark side of the force. Caldera Network Desktop was a wonderful Linux distro - for the time it was a well-polished distribution that worked, and was a lot less work to configure than Slackware or even Red Hat Linux.
Sadly, you let scumbags like Darl McBride steer you wrong. You became greedy and tried to reneg on the GPL, i.e., the code that you contributed to Linux kernel. You tried to steal UNIX from Novell and engaged in pump&dump schemes, ripping off your shareholders and your customers alike. By 2000, Redhat had long passed you by, because you lost your way, and by the time 2005 rolled around, every other distro grew in popularity and have been earning good returns for the respective disributions' sponsors and for integrators alike.
We will take the good - the code you released under the GPL, and leave the bad - that is, your total bullshit and your douchebag manner of doing business the last 10 years. Although you contributed a lot to Linux in your pre-McBride years, you will not be missed. I hope Darl McBride and any board and senior staff members who endorsed his pump & dump schemes are indicted for securities fraud and malfeasance, because through your actions it is self-evident that you ultimately did not have your shareholders' concerns at heart, but only extracting as much as you could into your own pockets. For that, and for trying to monopolize Linux and UNIX alike and contributing to Microsoft's FUD campaign which encouraged enterprises to avoid *nix and stick with the Windows malaise, fuck you very much.
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Trolltech of Qt fame probably did all of the polishing that impressed you. They were contracted to do a lot of work on it at the time and threw in the tetris game you get to play during installation.
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Re:Something nice for the kids (Score:5, Funny)
You're outbid. "I'd also like to be there when they cut off Darl McBride's head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations of intellectual property lawyers that for some favors, even $600 is too high a price. I would look up into his lifeless eyes and wave, like this. *smileywave*. Can you the United States Trustees arrange that for me, Judge Stewart?"
- What the CEO of Novell should have said when the case was finally closed.
Be careful what you wish for... (Score:2)
"I'd also like to be there when they cut off Darl McBride's head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations of intellectual property lawyers that for some favors, even $600 is too high a price. I would look up into his lifeless eyes and wave, like this. *smileywave*. Can you the United States Trustees arrange that for me, Judge Stewart?"
The thing is, Vir, if you're saying that Darl is just the front man for a Shadowy evil, then what are we in store for next?
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Lorien_the_first_one (1178397)
You know something is wrong with the Universe when Lorien's UID is longer than your own...
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Except for a couple of things.
1. Judge Stewart is not the US Trustee.
2. Judge Gross is handling the BK.
3. The US Trustee is Roberta De Angelis, who replaced Kelly Beaudin Stapleton.
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Sadly, goatse.cx is no longer with us :-(. Maybe we can all chip in to make sco.com the new goatse.
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Actually, the French like their copy. It's been there for years.
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Wait until sco.com expires and you can probably pick it up for $20 or so.
Physicsdot FTW... (Score:2)
Okay,
Assumptions (mostly from wikipedia):
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Well, technically the caliber is only the diameter. A .45 ACP has a fixed length, but I'm sure we could come up with a really long cartridge that's still only .45" in diameter for just this one shot. We could call it the .45 BSD.
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We could call it the .45 BSD.
I'd be half tempted to call it the ".45 in your FACE!"... which is...actually...rather quite appropriate for our purposes.
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More from Wikipedia...
When accounting only for mass, gravity, and altitude, the equation is: U = mgh, where U is the potential energy of the object relative to its being on the Earth's surface, m is the mass of the object, g is the acceleration due to gravity, and h is the altitude of the object. If m is expressed in kilograms, g in meters per second squared and h in meters then U will be calculated in joules.
U = 1kg*9.81m/s^2*2.0*10^6 = 19620000j / 3000000j/kg = 6.54kg of gunpowder.
From wiki.answers.com:
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You will however need a thruster or something to circularize the orbit! Otherwise it will hit the earth again...
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I don't know how much gunpowder it would take, but I'd be willing to donate a 8lb keg of HP38 to do some testing :)
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Of course! They are in reorganization bankruptcy, not full receivership. Once they auction off enough to pay Novell, they'll appeal again and try to get that money back.