Groklaw Torch Handed To Mark Webbink 47
eldavojohn writes "A month ago we read a Eulogy for Groklaw, but now PJ has announced that Groklaw will not be shutting down. Instead, it is now Mark Webbink's Groklaw 2.0. If you don't know who he is, Webbink is a member of the board of the SFLC and was General Counsel at Red Hat. Legal FOSS news will continue to flow."
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Your saying PJ isnt real because you havent seen her on TV ?
Seriously ?
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Maybe they just wernt interested in stories 99% of the population are clueless about. How many legal bloggers _are_ shown on American News Media ?
I think skepticism is generally a good thing, but if you question everything you have nothing left to believe in, except 'cogito ergo sum'.
If people in the community have said they have met her, then that should be good enough unless there is reason to question their word.
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Do an image search for the "easter bunny", what does it prove ?
So how about you post some photos of yourself, because your words mean nothing if we cant see your face /sarcasm
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How can you proove the photo of the easter bunny below isnt real ?
http://www.pantherkut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/happy-easter-bunny.jpg [pantherkut.com]
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except 'cogito ergo sum'.
Actually, that's been disputed.
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I did say _believe_
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Or maybe the fact that she used a false address, denied repeated media interviews, and only showed her face once or twice annoys you.
Yes there is video footage of PJ on one of the linux talk shows I forget which and how long ago but it is there.
Not everyone seeks fame some of us avoid it like the plague that it is.
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Essentially yes, that's what I'm saying. Keep in mind the nature of American News Media. It's highly unlikely that if PJ had been "real" that "seh" would have escaped the camera for as long as Groklaw has been around.
First of all not all individuals like being in the media. Second, how much coverage of this lawsuit has occurred in the media. In the beginning you were lucky to read a few paragraph stating the basic facts. The media barely covered SCO losing the Novell case in the end. It's doubtful that the media would investigate the identity of PJ when they barely care to write a paragraph at the end. The only people obsessed with PJ's identity were SCO and their shills.
As they say, "pictures, or it didn't happen".
If that's your standard, prove to me you are
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and it is a perfectly reasonable speculation that "P.J." was / is in fact a consortium of paid shills for IBM.
It might be. But the burden of proof is on you to PROVE P.J. is not a real person (and is a consortium of people paid by IBM blah blah blah).
Re:Put your emotions down and think it through. (Score:5, Insightful)
SCO's little mind game worked on you, didn't it?
During the trial SCO made a claim to the court that P.J. was not a real person, but an IBM shill. IBM vehemently denied that claim, again to the court.
If you've had any experience with the law, one thing you'll have learned is that judges hate is to be lied to. I guarantee you that SCO had some private investigators check on P.J. Had any evidence existed that P.J. was an IBM shill, I also guarantee you that SCO would have presented that evidence to the court with trumpets blaring. What better way to prove to the judge that IBM was the bad guy?
On the other hand, it would have been pointless for SCO to publicly prove that P.J. was a real person. It would have made them look like paranoid idiots, and it would only have helped IBM. So SCO said nothing more, and instead just let the accusation itself continue to taint P.J. It's one of the oldest dirty tricks in the book, and it clearly worked on you.
Is P.J. a real person? No doubt in my mind. Is "Pamela Jones" her real name? Who knows? Pen names and pseudonyms are as old as reporting itself. But if P.J. was an IBM shill, I am certain that SCO would have presented ironclad proof long ago.
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Steven J. Vaughan Nichols disagrees with you.
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Let's be honest: Glenn Beck has never been proven to not have raped and murdered a young girl in 1990.
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But let's be honest: "P.J." has never been proven to be a real person.
Ladies and gentlemen, I bring you proof on the existence of PJ [youtube.com]. Please check out the description of the video.
Re:And what the fuck will groklaw do ? (Score:4, Interesting)
But let's be honest: "P.J." has never been proven to be a real person.
Neither have you, therefore you are not a real person and your post is likely the work or an automated trolling algorithm.
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She
"P.J." is and was *always* a pen-name for a variety of folks who worked directly for, or were paid by a consortium headed by IBM.
Trollish, my friend. Here [eweek.com]:
Oh, and by the way, Pamela Jones really does exist. Ive met her.
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No kidding. She had every reason to stay on the other side of the wall. The behavior of the SCO shills (including Daniel Lyons, that vile repugnant piece of shit, no matter that he later semi-apologized) towards PJ was ridiculous and abusive.
Is that a joke or are you on drugs? (Score:3)
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Spicy (Score:4, Insightful)
The queen is dead. (Score:1)
long live the king.
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And it does. Unlike closed projects, the only way for a FOSS one to die is if everyone loses interest.
Another example: when the creators of Encyclopaedia Dramatica decided to shut it down and replace it with a commercial piece of crap, several forks popped overnight even though there was no good way to recover the data. These forks soon coalesced into one [encyclopediadramatica.ch], with nearly all data recovered already. And it's more vibrant than it was before, even with serious efforts to censor any news about the revival -- tr
Microsoft opens crowdsourced legal site "CrockLaw" (Score:2, Funny)
O'GARA UFO FIELD, Armonk, Monday (NTN) — With the final humiliation of the SCO Group and the retirement of Pamela Jones from Groklaw, Microsoft has stepped in with sponsorship to fill "a much-needed gap."
CrockLaw will be "a place where lawyers and geeks could explain things to each other and work together, so they'd understand each other's work better," said Sandy Gupta of Microsoft's Open Solutions Group. "We need to crowdsource the work of patent suit production. The attack from Linux is in full sw
This made my day. (Score:3)
This is joyous news indeed. Thanks for hanging in there, Groklaw :)
Thank you PJ!!! (Score:2)
I somehow missed the news last week about PJ stepping down. She finally put on her red dress and dancing shoes. After seven years she's more than earned it.
As a regular reader during the first couple years of SCO vs. The World it was nice to have a news/analysis source that I could absolutely trust.
Webbink is awesome. (Score:2)
Webbink is being put in charge? Awesome!
When Red Hat acquired my company back like 11 years ago, I worked with him to try to get our patent into a pool to be used in a GPL-like manner.
I don't think that particular case worked out (we never spent the resources to finish shuffling my patent through the last parts of the process, at least not while I was still at Red Hat), I can tell you from personal experience that he was working on that sort of thing, with sincerity, that long ago.