Latest Netflix Earnings Report Mixed 303
nmpost writes with one interpretation of Netflix's Q2 results (PDF). From the article: "The beginning of the end may be at hand for Netflix. On Tuesday, the movie rental company posted its second quarter results, and they were not promising. While the company returned to profitability following a first quarter loss, Netflix had a 91% drop in net income. The company's troubles began when it attempted to split its DVD-by-mail and streaming services, effectively doubling the price it was charging customers. External forces are now beginning to weigh on the company, and its doom appears to be within sight. The biggest challenges facing Netflix over the coming months are going to be competition and licensing fees. Three huge companies are competing against Netflix in the streaming arena, which has already surpassed its DVD-by-mail business. Amazon, Apple, and Google all offer streaming content as well. As movie and television studios began to demand higher licensing fees, Netflix will not be able to pay, while these tech giants will. Netflix will eventually be priced out of the market."
Engadget, on the other hand, shines some positive light on the report: "The results are in from its Q2 2012 earnings report, and it's claiming 27.56 million streaming subscribers worldwide, up from 26 million last quarter. In the US alone that includes 23.94 million customers, after it reported 23.4 million in Q1, while DVD customers dropped by 850k to 9.24 million." So it appears that Netflix is either gaining new streaming customers, or converting those expensive DVD customers into more lucrative streaming-only customers.
No more DVD rentals? (Score:4, Interesting)
If Netflix dies I guess that's the end of DVD-by-mail. I know at least one person who won't be happy. He rents the DVD and then he & his wife watch the movie or TV show together.
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This and streaming are the only ways I watch TV shows. If dvd by mail were to end I would just use streaming. It would be a loss but nothing for me to worry over.
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Hard to stream at 50k. (dialup). Plus even if my colleague had highspeed internet, he still has to go out and buy new equipment so he & his wife can see the movie on the TV.
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A roku costs $50, even at minimum wage that is less than a days worth of earnings.
The dialup is indeed an issue, but for any use of the internet not just streaming video.
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I use dialup when traveling. The web works just fine especially with image compression turned on. It's only the streaming video that does not work.
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Clearly we define work differently. I hate when I lose 4G on my smartphone, 3G is just so damn slow.
I would never use anything more demanding than ssh over dialup.
Rent multiple movies (Score:2)
I use dialup when traveling.
You could always buy an Android tablet with enough storage to hold multiple movies and then rent enough movies from Google Play to last you through your trip. I seem to remember having an option to download the entire rented movie to DRM storage before watching it. (Look for the push-pin icon.) Or what am I missing?
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Or just rip ones you already own.
Handbrake is free and easy to use.
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Most people who earn minimum wage do not live below the poverty line in the united states. Most people below the poverty line are those who do not maintain full time employment throughout the year.
Minimum wage earners usually live in multiple-income houses or are young people still getting economic care from their parents, such as students.
Re:No more DVD rentals? (Score:5, Informative)
Most people who earn minimum wage do not live below the poverty line in the united states.
Common misconception among opponents of the minimum wage. Can you back your assertions with data?
Federal poverty line for a single person is $11,710 [hhs.gov]
Federal minimum wage is $7.25 [dol.gov] which equates to roughly $14,500 (assuming you only work 50 weeks).
If you work 1615 (about 9.3 months @ 40 hrs/wk) hours at minimum wage, you exceed the poverty line.
Re:No more DVD rentals? (Score:4, Insightful)
At minimum wage cheap entertainment is a key thing. He cannot afford many of the amusements I have and enjoy. He has a hard enough life without you trying reduce him to a machine. Humans need entertainment as surely as they need food and water.
A roku or better yet a used one would be something he would be well served to have. It is costs no more than a trip to the movies for two people and will let him use services far cheaper than cable television. While I was not at minimum wage I remember when $50 was a large purchase for me and at that time I needed entertainment and escape more than ever.
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Netflix streaming, You Tube and my personal DVD collection are all that I watch--no cable, DVD by mail, antenna or other streaming.
Netflix makes up greater than 90% of what I watch, though You Tube is actually quite good for European (BBC) shows split up into thirds, and very old movies (collection of Chaplin movies is good).
I almost never watch my own DVDs because I'm too lazy to seek out what I want to watch and put it in the player... there's just too much commitment in that act and I feel like I must wa
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If DVD by mail were to end, I'd just stop watching. I often don't have time to watch an entire movie (or TV show, but I don't watch many of those) at one sitting, and it might be a week or more before I get a chance to finish one I've started. My DVD player will remember where I am over that time. Does the streaming service?
If it goes away, it does. I've got other things to do anyway.
Re:No more DVD rentals? (Score:4, Informative)
Yep.
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Re:No more DVD rentals? (Score:5, Insightful)
I maintain one DVD out with my Netflix streaming. Sometimes the DVD rental the only way to get certain things, which is why I laugh in the face of anyone saying "discs are dead, grandpa!" It's not a tech issue but an IP one.
All I want is a flat rate, one stop shop for streaming anything ever made. Completely possible techwise, utterly undoable from an IP standpoint. iTunes works well enough with my AppleTV, but sometimes the cost of a series is more than buying used DVDs (or even Blu-Rays) on amazon. It's variable enough that I have to check every time.
I'm lucky enough to know people with similar tastes who like to buy DVD box sets, and I can borrow/copy a lot of stuff.
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Sooner or later one of the studios is going to step into the vacuum of streaming rentals and realize there is a ton of money to be made there. Think about it, the day the movie hits theaters just start a streaming rental service starting at a premium (say $50 per view). Then concoct an algorithm (this might take a few runs to get just right) that decrements the price based on the day's demand for that title (relatively low demand, price goes down). That way, each day the price goes down (theoretically) b
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I think this will not happen from a current studio. Once one of the indy groups grows enough to get big talent and big movies then they will be the first to enter this gap. After they break ground the legacy studios will move in. We already see stuff like this in the audio side of the industry, where on-line sales are concurrent with the CD release, sometimes at a lower price and often in MP3 format.
The big companies don't like change, are afraid of it even. I think this one change you suggest would vas
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All I want is a flat rate, one stop shop for streaming anything ever made. Completely possible techwise, utterly undoable from an IP standpoint.
Unless the BBC re-used the archive tapes.
Re:No more DVD rentals? (Score:4, Funny)
All I want is a flat rate, one stop shop for streaming anything ever made. Completely possible techwise, utterly undoable from an IP standpoint.
There's a technical work around for that.
Re:No more DVD rentals? (Score:4, Insightful)
You must be from Hollywood.
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If Netflix dies I guess that's the end of DVD-by-mail. I know at least one person who won't be happy. He rents the DVD and then he & his wife watch the movie or TV show together.
Nonsense, either Netflix will stay open, or there is always Blockbuster dvd-by-mail which is a nearly identical service. At the top-tier of title popularity, Redbox and other kiosk style rentals are everywhere (which is why they are eating up Netflix revenue like crazy.)
Plus, if Netflix is gone maybe the vacuum will spur someone to finally crack the enigma that is "Streaming Rentals" that don't cost an arm and a leg. It's clearly an issue of licensing and not technology or logistics, so it has to happen at
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The blockbuster service is not near identical.
1. they commonly do not have any discs but make it appear as though they do
2. if you do not have an available item in the top 15 it will mail out nothing.
3. blockbuster sucks
The rest of your comment I agree with
The rural last mile (Score:2)
if Netflix is gone maybe the vacuum will spur someone to finally crack the enigma that is "Streaming Rentals" that don't cost an arm and a leg.
The enigma in question is the rural last mile, and that's an issue of "technology or logistics" for ISPs to solve. Disc rental by mail is the only practical service if all you can get in your area are dial-up and satellite, not DSL, cable, or fiber.
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There is another solution one we already adopted, most people do not live in rural areas.
For those people that do, DVD by mail will be around a long time.
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Cap (Score:2)
You have to wait 2 days for it to show up in the mail, but with a stream, it's instant and you can watch what you want when you want.
With a stream, it eats into your monthly data transfer allowance, and someone living in an area where the best home broadband has a single digit GB/mo cap (e.g. satellite or WISP) isn't going to be watching a lot of movies in a month.
The DVD side is a legacy, and will go away just like horse drawn buggies.
If the roads in your area were unsuitable for cars, you'd have to use a horse drawn buggy. The DVD side will go away once streaming is available everywhere in the same sense that electric power and land-line telephone service are available everywhere.
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but with a stream, it's instant and you can watch what you want when you want.
As long as they still offer it streaming. On netflix, different titles come and go. There's also the curious instances of "only episodes 1-4 and 6-24 are available for streaming". WTF?
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Why fill up my house with discs I will never watch again? Or hassle with reselling them?
net income loss is year on year. (Score:3)
q on q it's.. well, I don't know how you'd use percentages to turn a negative into a positive, but over(under) minus -100% ?
they're profitable at least now.
Naturally (Score:5, Insightful)
Since nearly all the content people want to watch needs to be licensed willingly be the major studios, this should be no surprise. They'll just keep raising their rates until Netflix goes out of business. This is the inevitable failure of a permission-based service provider.
At least with DVDs they weren't existing at the whim of the studios. They could make them horribly angry and still operate legally. With streaming they have no such independence.
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Re:Naturally (Score:5, Interesting)
It seems that if the studios keep raising their streaming licensing fees then DVDs eventually will be cheaper for Netflix to handle than streaming.
That's a good way to make DVD piracy popular again.
Most average users I know only got into copying DVDs (via Netflix mail discs) so they had movies on hand when they wanted to watch them. Streaming took that need away for most people since they could just fire up their device (Xbox, PC, PS3, Wii, TV) and watch what they wanted. Take away that ability with streaming, people will just start copying DVDs again.
Re:Naturally (Score:4, Insightful)
That's what is so sad about the whole thing. Netflix had a handy villain in the need to eliminate streaming as a freebie, but their horrific PR made them look like they were just increasing prices for no reason (I saw a *lot* of people online who believed that). Doing that and trying to split the service at the same time only compounded things. It's definitely going to show up in business school texts as a case study.
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This is what will eventually kill Netflix. It also means in the future I'll probably watch a LOT less movies. I watch netflix every night, either movies or TV series (I have streaming and 3 DVD package, and a member since 2003). That's about 60 hours of programming a month, which would cost ~$60/month for Amazon/Google but I pay 1/3rd that, and can watch even more, amortizing the costs further.
If the studios have their way, eventually we'll all be paying $15 per streaming movie at home, and Megaplex tick
Re:Naturally (Score:5, Interesting)
Netflix replaced a model whose business parameters they controlled (DVD by mail) with a model whose business parameters they do not control (licensing streaming content). Eventually, Netflix will be forced to become a Cable TV provider that streams videos on demand; you'll sign up to Netflix and then pay an extra $10 per month for access to Universal movies, $5 for access to Comedy Central, and so on.
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(yes, "engratin" is a perfectly cromulent word)
Wait, are you saying we should put ourselves in a dish with cheese, cream, and breadcrumbs and bake at 350F for about an hour?
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I believe they already do. Google "Lilyhammer"
Re:Naturally-diversification. (Score:4, Insightful)
They have and they are. The current show Lillyhammer is pretty good, assuming you can read. Some people seem to not be able to, thus subtitled programs are too complicated for them.
The next big thing is new episodes of Arrested Development, which I am very interested in.
Overblown (Score:2)
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Oh, good. I guess that means AOL has nothing to worry about, either.
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WTF is there to buy? a few content licenses that expire in a few years?
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amazon has a platform, netflix uses it to run their corporate IT
what does netflix have? PS3/blu ray/x-box/roku now have the amazon and netflix app. child's play to use one instead of the other
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Credit where due... (Score:5, Insightful)
NetFlix may not survive, but even if they die out I couldn't be happier for their contribution to the world.
You may not like their policies, business decisions or CEO, but NetFlix was a pioneer in their field. They were the first company to provide cheap, easy, unlimited streaming compatible with dozens of devices. That genie is out of the bottle now, and while there's a long battle ahead over licensing fees, royalties, etc ... there has been a permanent shift in the way we watch movies.
NetFlix has also established a very nice base price-point. If Amazon, Apple, Google or any other competitor want to charge more than $8-10 a month, they'd better provide some added value.
Re:Credit where due... (Score:5, Insightful)
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I wouldn't be surprised to see something similar to this as the future of streaming. Though as AC points out, age may not be the best criteria.
Whatever they decide though, NetFlix (or whichever competitor) must provide a basic service on par with what we know and are accustomed to for $10/month or less. From there, any upgraded plans will have to add value for the money.
Honestly, what I'd really like to see are à la carte entries. Basic service for $8 per normal, but then (just an example, don't
Pfft (Score:2)
Be careful what you wish for (Score:5, Insightful)
A note to the MPAA. You better be careful what you wish for.
My family loves and adores Netflix. It is an creative and innovative method of consuming entertainment.
If the MPAA succeeds in their obscene desire to destroy Netflix at any cost, I WILL NEVER EVER respect their "IP" rights. I will steal any content I want.
I am sick to death of the entertainment industry on bing hellbent on not letting me enjoy the entertainment they are selling in the way I choose to.
They should view Netflix as a godsend that enables them to have a future. Instead they view it as the enemy.
If they destroy Netflix, I will have no ethical problem stealing what the movie and TV industry creates. Their obscene greed and arrogance doesn't give them any moral standing to lecture the customers who they depend on for their existence.
GIVE US WHAT WE WANT! Oh and what we want is to not wait months after DVDs are released to stream movies, and we don't want to pay $5 to rent a streaming video, and we don't think ridiculous DRM schemes (hello ultraviolet) are reasonable.
Re:Be careful what you wish for (Score:4, Insightful)
They owe you nothing. If you convince yourself that you don't have to pay for entertainment, then you will be surprised when their lawyers come-a-knocking.
I'm not saying it's right, but they don't give a fsck about you or what you think. You REALLY want to stick it to them? Read a book.
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Then the police will come, and I presume you would also shoot at them. Then they will put you down and the world will have one less jackass to deal with.
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I wonder by how much was music piracy reduced by the introduction of legitimate digital distribution methods?
Considering the insane amount of music iTunes sold in their first year alone it has got to be rather substantial.
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If the MPAA succeeds in their obscene desire to destroy Netflix at any cost, I WILL NEVER EVER respect their "IP" rights. I will steal any content I want.
They will not be satisfied with "flat rate" pricing for given periods of time, and frankly that will only lead to the Viacom-DirecTV styled battles we've just recently seen anyway--with Netflix or the studio content provider superimposing text over your stream airing out their contract laundry, etc.
I think the ultimate model will unfortunately be cell-phon
Re:Be careful what you wish for (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't like the way you decide to sell your product, so I'm going to steal it.
When you make it easier to steal a product than purchase a product what exactly do you expect to happen?
google/amazon vs.netflix question (Score:4, Insightful)
If I want to watch Breaking Bad I can pay google $8 per season or $2 per episode, or I can pay Amazon $22 per season (!!!).
Or I can pay Netflix flat rate of $20 and watch all four seasons, then watch Dexter, Weeds, Black Adder, for no extra cost.
How is Google/Amazon's model even remotely a threat to Netflix?
Clearly I'm missing something.
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that's just one show. netflix selection is crap in general and they lose shows daily.
amazon is $80 a year and includes free shipping and book borrowing. and i can rent a movie that's not on prime direct from the x-box or ps3 app.
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$80? I pay $39?
Re:google/amazon vs.netflix question (Score:4, Insightful)
wife acceptance factor (Score:3)
wife acceptance factor?
OK I got the roku box. So, honey, I can sign up for amazon prime or netflix. If I sign up for amazon prime I'll never pay for postage again and it'll all be 2 day instead of next week or so, but netflix offers nothin extra. You can guess how that discussion turned out.
The crazy thing is amazon prime is basically free for me because I buy so much stuff from them that I profit WRT to annual fee vs no more postage. I assume this free postage stuff will go away if I buy too many 40 pound bags of kitty litter from the other side of the country. I have to look into that. I'll need road salt in a couple more months and I was thinking ten 80 pound bags of crystal solar salt might work.
The world won't miss Netflix (and alikes) (Score:2)
Let's hope the whole proprietary streaming industry collapses. Not just Netflix, but Amazon's and Apple's too. If you need a weirdo client to play the videos, then you have taken a technological step backward from OTA TV or analog cable TV. I am not going to pay for their weird luddite religion.
The current state of the art is offered by pirates: here's the file and it Just Works, with whatever software you want to use, on any box that you want to play it on, to be played at any time of day that you want
Re:The world won't miss Netflix (and alikes) (Score:5, Insightful)
The current state of the art is offered by pirates: here's the file and it Just Works, with whatever software you want to use, on any box that you want to play it on, to be played at any time of day that you want.
Why would that surprise you?
Free market economies only work when something is scarce - for example, there's no market for breathable air, nor is there a market for seawater on a coast. Sequences of bits aren't naturally scarce, because computers are really good at copying sequences of bits for very very low cost. So in order to make something that is not scarce scarce, there's a giant legal and technological mechanism put in place. That technology and law must by necessity cripple the normal abilities of computers to prevent them from doing what they normally can do.
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Free market economies only work when something is scarce
The correct thing to do when we have a non-scarce good is not to artificially destroy the scarcity, but to abandon the free market model.
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i want to watch TV on a gasp,,,,,,,TV. not on a laptop. i have no time to transcode or whatever. i'm not going to pay most money for faster internet. i'm not going to buy hard drives or NAS or whatever. i'm not willing to pay more money for electricity to keep my stuff on 24x7.
unless you live in mommy's basement and have no bills the cost of "free" is more than legit
when i cancel cable i'm going to pay $40 a month for 5mbps internet. no reason for anything faster. in fact i'm going to downgrade from my curr
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And this thing is...?
Focus on streaming recent TV shows IMO. (Score:2)
I've tried HULU and for the most part their offering of recent TV shows is pretty bland. If Netflix focused on streaming TV shows the day after it aired then I would be more interested. Get steaming of other TV shows other then the 4 main networks (ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX). More from History Channel, Discovery, SciFi, FX, TNT and so on.
They could have done things right (Score:5, Insightful)
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But (Score:2)
Last I heard streaming content was nowhere in size near DVD based content
As planned (Score:4, Informative)
The drop in net income for Netflix is according to plan. The plan is to rapidly expand into new markets, investing current income in growth, rather than taking it as profit. Subscriber numbers and hours of content streamed both show the plan is proceeding nicely. The size of the subscription base gives them the income to buy the content to keep subscribers happy. In my house, we watch about 3 movies a week streamed from Netflix, and about 2 movies a month individually rented from Amazon. So they're each getting 8 bucks from us. But Amazon Prime isn't worth it - the selection is far slimmer than Netflix's, and with our purchases of other stuff from them over $25, the shipping's free anyway.
Anyway, Netflix wasn't looking for immediate profit this last quarter. They were looking for income to reinvest. They got it. They grew. Since when was it the wrong strategy for an Internet company to get really, really big first, and worry about profit afterwards? Worked for Google. And Amazon.
I don't want streaming (Score:5, Interesting)
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The streaming is heavily skewed to boring, hyper-commercial new releases
It's actually even worse. New releases usually aren't available on the streaming service. So, its more like hyper-commercial year-old and older releases.
Re:I cancelled my Netflix subscription a while ago (Score:4, Interesting)
Because Amazon has far less selection?
I would not have it, if I had not gotten a PS3 for free. If Amazon ever gets a real selection for prime streaming I will switch to that. I will not pay $1 to rent a half hour show. $0.25/hour would be about the most i would pay.
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if you're talking about cartoons then just pay $10-$20 for the season. cheaper than DVD's at $15 for a few episodes and its not like you will need them for more than a few years.
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For $20 I can pay for netflix for a month.
I do not watch very many cartoons.
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If Amazon ever gets a real selection for prime streaming I will switch to that.
Can you now buy prime streaming alone, or only the package deal with free shipping for "stuff" and kindle books? I have the package deal, don't know if there's a new cheaper option to just buy streaming. My kids don't care about selection, as long as there's a purple dinosaur on screen they're happy.
BTW "Real selection" comes from U****t or torrents and is viewed on the mythtv box connected to the adjacent HDMI connector with a multi-terabyte array on the other side, coincidentally that's the same place l
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I believe only the package deal, which is what I have.
They screw you on the kindle books if you don't own a kindle brand device. Which is almost enough to make me cancel it. There is no reason why any android device cannot get the free books.
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>>>There is no reason why any android device cannot get the free books.
Amazon wants you to buy the hardware, so they tie you to the kindle for the freebies. A bit like Apple's model where OS X only works on Macs, not any android or windows device. Ya know you COULD buy a kindle... it's only 50-60 used. (I bought the 3G version for 70 like-new.)
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That is not a technical reason. That is the same bullshit that keeps netflix from streaming every video ever recorded.
I do not want a kindle. I like having real android tablets. I dislike e-ink. It refreshes slowly, flickers badly when it does refresh, lacks lighting and in general looks like phonebook print. I know the e-ink fanbois will now flame me, but I just looked at some devices last weekend and they still look this crappy.
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I won't flame you, but I disagree that e-ink is bad. I can stare at it for hours without the inevitable eyestrain that comes from looking at a too-bright LCD screen (which I suspect over time will cause cataracts). It more-resembles the paper of an actual book.
As for lighting: Barnes&Noble now has a glow-in-the-dark eink display. I figure it's only a matter of time until Amazon copies them and has their own glowing kindle: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/nook/379003208 [barnesandnoble.com]
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What you suspect and what scientific testing have shown are at odds. I know who I will trust.
I stare at an LCD 8+ hours a day at work, I don't see how another hour at home would matter. I don't get any eyestrain at work anyway. If your books have as low a contrast as e-ink I suggest you buy higher quality printings.
Glow in the dark does fix one issue, but there are still so many others.
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I get amazon streaming with prime as well. Which finally works on the PS3, that only took years. They still will not stream prime videos to my android device for free, unless I use flash.
The netflix selection is much better than it was a year ago, still not great but good enough vs what is on TV anyway.
Non-sports fans switch from cable to OTA+Netflix (Score:2)
The netflix selection is [...] good enough vs what is on TV anyway.
By "what is on TV anyway" do you mean cable or OTA?
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I currently have both netflix and amazon prime. Overall, the free streaming with amazon is roughly comparable, in my experience, with netflix. A few things I've looked for have only been available on one or the other. On the other hand, the advantage of amazon is the non-free selection. If one doesn't mind paying for the additional material sometimes, it increases the range of what is available to quite a large extent. However, my fear is that if netflix dies, then the "free" material on amazon would reduce
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If the costs were reasonable I would pay for it but they are not so I will not.
To me reasonable would be 50% of the DVD price to buy and competitive with redbox for rental. Meaning a typical TV series should not cost more than $4 to rent, since they rarely take up more than 4 DVDs.
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Because only 1% of the population uses Linux for their Personal Computer.
And Netflix works on things like the XBOX and Wii, Apple iTV, and a bunch of other stuff too.
Netflix does work on Linux, there is an Android port. Or are you talking about it running on GNU/Linux?
Re:I cancelled my Netflix subscription a while ago (Score:4, Informative)
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well.. they do provide an app for linux, but it's requirements are that you run android on that linux, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient&hl=en [google.com]
so, it's a bit political and more than just silverlight, though they might have initially received some kickback to use silverlight exclusively in the first place(even if it that kickback was just discounts on sw... phb's can be phb's and don't usually understand if a kickback is an actual kickback).
Re:I cancelled my Netflix subscription a while ago (Score:5, Insightful)
Hastings is on the MS board. Netflix chose silverlight to promote silverlight. It really is that simple.
It works on linux if MS would hand over the DRM binary, they will not ever do that.
Need Google Play Store first (Score:2)
they do provide an app for linux, but it's requirements are that you run android on that linux
Say I install Android for x86 [wikipedia.org] on a desktop or laptop PC. How do I get Google Play Store onto Android for x86 on a PC so that I can install Netflix? I understand that Google Play Store comes only prepackaged with devices, and I'm not aware of any x86 laptops that come with Google Play Store.
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I've been hesitant to use Amazon since they screwed me with a downloadable movie--their app failed to run, as a result I lost the rental fee. It was ultimately refunded, but very aggravating to spend the time on it. The quality of their streaming appears to be inferior to me which is why I went for the download.
Their rental fees are pricey too, particularly for older stuff... $2.99 to watch an old movie? Too much given what you can get from Netflix by mail or Redbox. They need to get it down to 99c for
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Eh? My iPad has a Netflix app. Android has it, too. Hell, that's one of the big things about Netflix- it's ubiquitous. My XBox, PS3, Wii, iPad, Mac and AppleTV all have Netflix apps.
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What do you mean? I watch Netflix on my Iphone when I wake up at 3am and can't get back to bed.
Who are "all the phone .. users" that are missing out? Droid droids?
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Netflix works fine on original Droid phones.
If you upgrade it to an aftermarket OS you might have to do some work to get it to work well, but not very hard.
Mod parent overrated (Score:2)
Yeah if they are still using Silverlight they are missing out on all the phone and tablet users as well.
WTF? I watch Netlfix all the time through its iPhone app.
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Actually expansion to other countries is the biggest factor causing them to operate in the red (their screw-up in the US just added to that).
In September 2010, we began international operations by offering our streaming service in Canada. In
September 2011, we expanded our streaming service to Latin America and the Caribbean. In January 2012, we
launched our streaming service in the UK and Ireland. We anticipate significant contribution losses in the
International streaming segment in 2012.
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I gave my parents Roku for Netflix.