Is Anonymous Going Mainstream Following Website Funding? 101
DavidGilbert99 writes "For a completely online movement, the lack of an official Anonymous website is certainly strange. The reason, according to Anonymous itself is down to the lack of a hierarchical structure. However, one Anonymous-linked group could be about to change all that, having succeeded in securing $55,000 in funding for a website. Is this the beginning of Anonymous going mainstream? From the article: 'The @YourAnonNews (YAN) Twitter account has over one million followers and has leveraged its popularity to successfully raise over $55,000 (£34,000) through a crowd-funding campaign on the Indiegogo website.
The funding drive was established to allow those behind the YAN account to set up a website of its own which will allow it "to collect breaking reports and blog postings from the best independent reporters online."'"
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Hi. I am a 28 year old male that frequently reads these forums over the past several years. I generally use them to gauge popular perception on certain topics, and to find competing viewpoints to popular problems (nerds love to make each other look stupid/disprove each other/demonstrate topical intellectual superiority). I have come across your post a few times, and it is very disconcerting to see the sort of writing style you introduce as it is a very harsh contrast to the "normal" -- which goes even for n
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+1
He certainly does read as either a complex spambot who's doing an awful lot of linkfarming, a very peculiar troll, or a total nutjob, i tend to believe the latter least.
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Ever think you're getting modded down because you're an asshole?
I've started clicking the flag button to report that guy's ass on every post, hoping that Slashdot admins eventually ban this guy's ass for repeated spamming, but that doesn't seem to work. I bet if everyone who sees that spam post reports it that eventually they will do something about it.
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Actually, calling themselves "Anonymous" and gathering funding now gives governments around the world - from Russia to Australia, from the US to Indonesia - the pretext to prosecute anybody posting anonymously online, as a conspirator and an accessory to... Well, darn near anything.
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Re:Unwitting Accomplices? (Score:4, Insightful)
You don't need "probable cause" or even evidence, in "terrorism" cases, apparently.
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Yes, yes you do.
You need it, but law enforcement agencies often do not bother getting it.
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You need it, but law enforcement agencies often do not bother getting it.
What case are you even talking about? It's pointless to arrest someone without getting it because the case will get thrown out of court.
The bar for 'reasonable suspicion' is really low, but even then it's above 'commented anonymously online.' You need to get your conspiracy theory hat off.
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Ex-Bush Official Willing to Testify Bush, Cheney Knew Gitmo Prisoners Innocent [truth-out.org]
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Are you really the person behind the "host file" spam?
Spam Example [slashdot.org]
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Of course not.
I "elevated" one, once, under my UID with copy and paste. Why?
It was modded below visibility - and a CLEAR, HYSTERICAL PARODY that included about 5-7 running slashdot jokes.
Now. Let's get back to the topic: The end of liberty, freedom, due process and rule of law in the USA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l07cvZAn0L8 [youtube.com]
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Do you really think that posting anonymously online reaches the standard of 'probable cause,' or even 'reasonable suspicion'?
Yes.. What makes you think that it doesn't? We now have, and probably always did have, a 'public safety exception' to all constitutional law. Our facade of 'freedom' is really quite flimsy and crumbling fast.
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Perhaps your "freedom" is crumbling fast because you decided to treat it as a facade and leave it exposed to the elements that weathered it into it's crumbling status. I, however, chose to take my "freedom" and protect in a fortress that I like to call "the law". I have found this to be the best way to actually "preserve" my "freedom". If our freedom didn't need such protection, we would not have any need for the law in the first place.
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We now have, and probably always did have, a 'public safety exception' to all constitutional law.
Tell me that when his testimony is allowed as evidence in court.
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Rather people pretending to associate with the organization and provide a public face for them. Surely this group of anonymous has nothing to do with the anonymous hackers. This little dilemma goes back to the definition of the word "anonymous".
Way to miss the point YAN (Score:3, Insightful)
The idea of an official Anonymous anything is absurd.
And for an unofficial Anonymous site, there's 4chan.
Now that anonymous is passe, can I suggest... (Score:1)
using 'Anonymous Coward' as the name for the replacement anti-organization? :)
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Well, if it had started here instead of 4chan, that's exactly what it would be called.
But yeah, I can totally see protestors in Natalie Portman masks, doin' it for the hot grits.
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Exactly. I wish I'd thought of this way to make money too.
Yeah, it's great until some three letter agency breaks down your door at 3:00 am, shoots your dog, and has some questions for you...
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Yeah, it's great until some three letter agency breaks down your door at 3:00 am, shoots your dog, and has some questions for you...
Doesn't this normally happen to the people who live a house or two away from the house they are trying to target?
Re:Cheese is the real victim here (Score:5, Insightful)
Someone on 4chan said it best: "Anyone claiming to represent anon is not anon."
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I believe you just posted the first comment ever which was ever voted to +5 insightful, whose only contribution to the discussion is a quote from "someone on 4chan".
You win the Internet for today.
Is it just me (Score:1)
Is it just me or does this seem like the dumbest idea ever, about as smart as an Al Qaeda cell setting up a plainly signed recruitment office next door to MI5's headquarters?
It's not just you. (Score:1)
I headdesked when I read it up to "official Anonymous website".
That guy claimed MY money, check my username - I'd go and sue him for that but I don't have enough guts for this :(
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You know Al Qaeda does actually have a media wing and publishes a regular magazine called "Inspire" right?
They already own a website... (Score:5, Funny)
like slashdot (Score:2)
so many of the posts will be signed with anonymous coward
FBI is first subscriber! (Score:5, Funny)
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Fox, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS are the next five.
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hey, it would be nice as a misinformation site...or better yet...a honey pot for law enforcement online accounts/personas
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Subscriber? For all we know, it's the anonymous FBI who set up that web site and the FBI who anonymously donated most of the money to itself. It certainly wouldn't be that difficult for them to pressure an existing anonymous member to do their bidding, or to set up their own anonymous identity among other anonymous members just for a couple of months before volunteering to set the web site up.
Stupid (Score:3, Funny)
This is probably the most stupid thing I've ever seen in my life. And I used to go to church...
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How long before some other "anons" decide to go against the YAN. This cannot and won't go mainstream as long as others use the same name. I wait for their twitter or website to be owned soon enough. the real anon's are /b/tards and do whatever they please. You cannot control or organize such a group. They are called /b/tards for a reason.
It seems as if someone organizes you into a relatively homogeneous group...
absurd! (Score:3)
An Anonymous website...the whole point is there can be no single website. This project is a bunch of posers, and it will be DoSed as soon as it goes up. In any case, 4chan is about as close to an Anonymous web site as is wanted, needed, or possible.
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No! I am Spartacus!
This isn't just late, this is slowpoke meme status (Score:4, Insightful)
Anonymous went mainstream circa 2007. Anyone thinking anything different has no understanding of what is actually going on.
Lawyers cracking knuckles (Score:2)
"That's excellent! Now that they're a legitimate public entity, they can be sued! That gets them out of criminal court, and into profit court err I mean civil court."
I can hear the excited clicking of Mont Blanc pens now...
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"That's excellent! Now that they're a legitimate public entity, they can be sued! That gets them out of criminal court, and into profit court err I mean civil court."
I can hear the excited clicking of Mont Blanc pens now...
I tire of this game. There are many heads. This one you may sever from the hydra, and carry back to your town as a trophy. The trumpets will welcome you as a returning hero, but anyone with half a mind will know the truth of this day.
Slaying the hydra (Score:2)
A good lawyer doesn't slay it; she keeps it alive and milks it for hourly payments.
This may not end well (Score:5, Interesting)
In a similar case somebody ran of with the server and donations:
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Why_We_Protest_Forums#11.2F29.2F08_The_Day_Enturb_Stood_Still [encyclopediadramatica.se]
Misdirection (Score:5, Insightful)
Anyone who thinks that this represents or is backed by the core activists who are part of the collective is, well.. a fool parted with their money.
It would paint a massive bulls-eye target on anyone associated with it, pretty much saying "here I am, come get me!".
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Yeah, I wasn't so much defining a membership group as delineating the ones who do from the ones who talk.
geez, is Anon going to open coffeeshops next? (Score:2)
the wi-fi is free, but your disk gets examined on the Tors.
old news (Score:1)
i thought they already had one called 4chan...
$55,000 for a website? (Score:2)
(I would think they know how to 'secure it', hardy har har)
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DDoS It Like It's Hot
Interesting isn't it? How ineffectual the DDoS is, incapable of actually stopping anything from happening for any length of time. It only raises awareness. The hive needs information outlets (many of them, because: why not?), and all are just as "official" as the others, yet it will freely fling its own "weapons" at itself, knowing it can not truly harm the body -- like an anemone immune to its own poison. It's merely communicating with itself.
The DDoS has become only a way to make a proportion of dis
Anonymous collects $55k to pay for bandwidth (Score:1)
of LOIC attacks from anonymous.