Drupalcon Attendees Come Together To Build Help4ok.org In 24 Hours 36
Falc0n writes "Many of us don't have to look too far back to recall the impact of a natural disaster: Sandy, Chelyabinsk, Lushan, and now Oklahoma. When they occur there is typically no shortage of assistance available, but coordination is always a major challenge. In a very open source way, about 60 open source developers, designers, and sys admins came together to build a scalable tool to help those affected by the tornado. If you're interested in helping the effort, join us in irc.freenode.net #drupal4ok"
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With all due respect to these talented, compassionate people, nothing short of anotherfuckingplacetolive.com* is going to cut it.
*I should know; I live here. :p
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With all due respect to these talented, compassionate people, nothing short of anotherfuckingplacetolive.com* is going to cut it.
That was already true. While looking at which states I'd consider moving to, I checked out basics like laws affecting basic freedoms and OK was very fucking far from OK.
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With all due respect to these talented, compassionate people, nothing short of anotherfuckingplacetolive.com* is going to cut it.
That was already true. While looking at which states I'd consider moving to, I checked out basics like laws affecting basic freedoms and OK was very fucking far from OK.
I'd appreciate knowing the short list you came up with for states that would be ok to move to. I've been wanting to compile a list like that too and I suspect we may both have similar sensibilities. I don't have access to my password from where I am atm or I'd post normally, but I'll watch in case you respond.
Thanks!
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I'm learning Finnish.
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Well for me basically what it came down to was WA or OR. There is still water there. Finding property that comes with any kind of water rights is the fancy trick. I love the land of CA but the politics here are completely wacky. This state is just too big and too heterogeneous to be managed by one government.
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If you stopped building your homes out of match sticks and built homes that where able to withstand tornadoes (and yes this is perfectly possible) then the clean up would be a *LOT* simpler.
Other sensible measures would be putting electric and telecoms under ground as well.
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If you stopped building your homes out of match sticks and built homes that where able to withstand tornadoes (and yes this is perfectly possible) then the clean up would be a *LOT* simpler.
Other sensible measures would be putting electric and telecoms under ground as well.
Both those measures are expensive. Do you have any idea how many thousands of miles of telecom/electric cables are in Oklahoma? If they just have one mile of wire per square mile, that's 69,898 miles of wire. I think the figure is many times that.
Same with housing. Building with concrete or steel is expensive, and will turn your house into an E-Z Bake Oven as well. That would increase electricity needs for running AC, which would lead to more pollution, which would cause more deaths.
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Same with housing. Building with concrete or steel is expensive, and will turn your house into an E-Z Bake Oven as well. That would increase electricity needs for running AC, which would lead to more pollution, which would cause more deaths.
Well, I guess having more kids to replace the ones you lost is cheaper, since they are technically free to create. People in Guatemala, and I dont mean rich people, build homes out of cinderblock and lots of rebar because they get an earthquake once a month. It can't b
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Same with housing. Building with concrete or steel is expensive, and will turn your house into an E-Z Bake Oven as well. That would increase electricity needs for running AC, which would lead to more pollution, which would cause more deaths.
You mean building with wood turns your home into an E-Z Bake Oven, right? In Europe we like to build our external walls with an autoclaved aerated concrete core because that stuff is great at thermal insulation. Add some proper (ie. double- or triple-pane) windows with insulated frames and appropriate doors and you get a house that is a lot more resistant to outside temperature than one made out of wood. There is a reason why A/C is much less popular in Europe than in the States: It's simply not as useful i
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There is a reason why A/C is much less popular in Europe than in the States: It's simply not as useful if the house stays cool on its own if you lower the blinds and only open the windows briefly to let in fresh air.
There is a reason why A/C is less popular in Europe than in the States, but it's not that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's any part of Europe that regularly gets temperatures upwards of 100 degrees Fahrenheit (38 degrees Celsius) on several days of every summer. Much of the southern United States does, and that's why A/C is a necessity there. Just changing the building material won't cut it, even if it does improve the cooling situation.
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With all due respect to these talented, compassionate people, nothing short of anotherfuckingplacetolive.com* is going to cut it.
*I should know; I live here. :p
I can understand this mentality in a place that floods every single year and people every year say "we're going to rebuild". It''s quite another to say that in a place that experiences a once in a century hurricane, or a once in a century tornado (even if it experiences a once in a century tornado two times in fifteen years). If you lived only in place where it was not possible to have a once in a century event of some type, I think you would find that the Earth would suddenly become uninhabitable. There a
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volunteers wishing to help in the recovery can coordinate rides to prevent area roads from becoming clogged. The site also helps connect volunteers with homeowners who are willing to house out-of-towners.
Yeah, totally useless.
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So, a FEMA-approved site which coordinate help on the ground (so far, housing and personal transportation) is not helpful to relief efforts?
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Weathering a hurricane isn't exactly the same as weathering a tornado, but I suppose they didn't teach that at Kim Il-Song school either.
Re:Capitalism can't cope (Score:4, Insightful)
I always wonder why these people who praise Cuba so much don't move there.
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Don't feed the troll.
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Cuba, a bureaucratically deformed workers state, regularly weathers extreme hurricanes with no loss of life, because the means to plan and execute a real preparation and recovery are not disorganized by the anarchy of private property.
THE WORKERS MUST RULE!
Cuban media claimed 11 deaths for Hurricane Sandy even though it wasn't a hurricane when it went through that area. According to this site , hurricanes in Cuba regularly cause hundreds to thousands of deaths per occurrence. Meanwhile, in a tornado where thousands of houses were literally ripped from the earth leaving nothing but slab foundations, and having the highest windspeed ever recorded on planet Earth, 44 people died. Then earlier this week, a tornado of nearly the same strength ripped through an ev
Something Generic? (Score:2)
One effort already (Score:4, Informative)
For contribution or inspiration, there is already Sahana [wikipedia.org] - IIRC there was a php version and a rewrite using the very well thought out python framework web2py.
Help40k? (Score:2)
UUnfortunately the site was crashed 20 minutes later by illiterate 16-year-olds shouting "For the Emperor!"... and then served by lawyers from GW 20 minutes after that.
Mobile Disaster Recovery App (Score:2)
There was a great project debuted at the Cleanweb Hackathon (part of NYC BigApps) this past weekend. It helped coordinate in-kind contributions, needs identification, volunteer distribution, and every other disaster-related necessity on the ground.