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Lead Developer of Yum Killed In Hit-and-run 413

An anonymous reader writes "Seth Vidal, a lead developer of Yum, was killed in a hit-and-run accident while riding his bicycle in Durham, NC last night." The Fedora Project posted a statement. Quoting: "Seth was a lead developer of yum and the update repository system, and a contributor to the CentOS project as well as the original Fedora Extras system. He worked tirelessly on the infrastructure for the Fedora Project to make all systems work well and consistently for our contributors around the world. He was a gifted speaker, a brilliant thinker, a clever wit, a humble and genuinely funny person, and a good friend. The Fedora community owes an enormous debt of gratitude to Seth's dedication to Fedora and other free software projects, his commitment to community values, and his passion for excellence in his work. To say he will be missed is an understatement." Update: 07/10 00:24 GMT by U L : Local news reports that the driver turned himself in.
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Lead Developer of Yum Killed In Hit-and-run

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  • by Spy Handler ( 822350 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:02PM (#44231263) Homepage Journal

    wear white.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:15PM (#44231397)

      White doesn't cut it at night.
      Wear reflective.

    • by characterZer0 ( 138196 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:17PM (#44231407)

      White does not always help. If you ride at night, use bright headlights and taillaights. I commute by bicycle and have lights on regardless of time of day. Too many drivers just do not pay sufficient attention.

      In many places hit and run carries a lighter penalty than DUI, so often drivers have an incentive to flee. Hit and run should be a felony.

      • In many places hit and run carries a lighter penalty than DUI

        ... The fuck????

        Where? I want to know which communities/states to add to my "Avoid Like the Bubonic Plague" list.

        • New York State.

          • by bws111 ( 1216812 )

            New York State does not have any offense called 'hit and run'. They (and I assume most other places) have a law called 'leaving the scene of an incident without reporting'. That only covers the 'run' part. If a death was involved, leaving the scene is a class D felony, carrying a two to five thousand dollar penalty.

            That still leaves the 'hit' part. Depending on the circumstances, the 'hit' part may be vehicular homicide, which is an additional charge to the 'leaving the scene' charge. That can also be

        • by Charliemopps ( 1157495 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @08:02PM (#44232477)

          You're misconstruing "death by hit and run" with "hit and run" Most hit and runs are in parking lots and the other drivers inside the store. Also, in many states now, DUIs are considered so heinous the punishments in the "insane" category. It's not that hit and runs are lenient, it's that DUI offenses are treated ridiculously harsh. My state has one of the most lax DUI laws in the country and you still get a $2k fine, lose your license for at least a year and likely will get jail time.

          • by MacGyver2210 ( 1053110 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @09:46PM (#44233383)

            Also, in many states now, DUIs are considered so heinous the punishments in the "insane" category.

            I'd love to know which ones. In Wisconsin, where I live, I see people FREQUENTLY getting 4th through 8th DUIs, and I can't help but wonder why the cops are so fucking terrible at keeping these people off the streets(or, you know, doing their job at all). I quickly realized that they don't WANT these people off the streets, as they use it as a revenue generator.

            "We give you a real hard slap on the wrist, and take your plastic card, and suddenly you can't drive. Oh wait, you don't follow the law, you'll drive anyway(or pay the exorbitant fines and fees to get your 'sort-of' license reinstated). When you break the law again, we can charge you even MORE and let you go AGAIN!"

            If the government actually wanted to prevent DUIs, they would adopt Germany's DUI penalty: First offense - ENORMOUS fine, lose your license(which costs thousands of euros to obtain in Germany), vehicle seized and sold, proceeds donated to any victims or a fund for the same. Second offense - Huge fines, and prison. Lots, and lots, of prison.

          • 18,000 people died in 2006 from DUI crashes.

            That's 4,000 more than homicides. So yes, it's pretty "heinous" and should get "insane" punishment. The problem is the punishments aren't insane enough; they sound "insane", but the criminals just get right back in their cars and kill/main more people.

            Every time you get behind the wheel and you're drunk/high, you're loading a handgun with a bullet, spinning the chamber, and pointing it at innocent people on the road, and pulling the trigger.

            The difference is that

      • I have never been to nor heard of such a community. The article seem to imply that this is a felony, as in this case I would think murder is the proper charge. "Anyone with information about the hit-and-run should call Crime Stoppers at 919-683-1200. Crime Stoppers pays cash rewards for information leading to arrests in felony cases and callers never have to identify themselves."
      • by pspahn ( 1175617 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:50PM (#44231781)

        I received Revolights [] for Christmas last year.

        Of course, they won't prevent me from getting hit, but they sure do help. Cars, pedestrians, other cyclists... they all stop when I go by simply because they are looking at my lights because they look pretty fucking cool.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        No kidding. When you're riding day or night visibility is your you friend. The most dangerous person is the spaced out driver driving home on the same daily commute he's been doing for the last decade. You need to make yourself stick out or he'll plow in to you like you're not even there.

        Right now I'm at work and I'm charging my serfas thunderbolts. Even in broad daylight they're shockingly visible.|index|lights|tail-lights

        That and a 700 lumen front l

      • North Carolina is one of those places.

        Felony hit and run is a Class H Felony ( With no priors, the maximum you can get is 8 months in prison.

        Felony death by motor vehicle (any death from a motor vehicle that is the result of driving while impaired) is normally treated as involuntary manslaughter (Class F, 20 months max with no priors) but can be upgraded to second degree murder (Class B1, 300 months for no prior of

      • by SuperBanana ( 662181 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @09:50PM (#44233411)

        White does not always help. If you ride at night, use bright headlights and taillaights. I commute by bicycle and have lights on regardless of time of day. Too many drivers just do not pay sufficient attention.

        Bright headlights and taillights do not always help. If you ride at night, use dayglo clothing, flags, strobe lights, and pyrotechnics. Too many drivers just do not pay sufficient attention.

        If they're "not paying attention" (aka not looking at the road), please explain to me how "being more visible" will help....

        I've been hit in the middle of the day, I've been doored despite having a very bright headlight, and I've been cut off ("right hooked") by someone who just passed me, again in the day. Visibility has nothing to do with it. It's about drivers thinking they have the right of way over us universally, and it's about drivers not looking.

        In most studies, the number of crashes vs time has little to do with daylight, and everything to do with rush hour - ie people driving aggressively, and traffic density.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      From the article, the accident happened at 9pm. So it probably wasn't dark.
    • I got a special vest just for that. It is very thin (does not protect against wind or heat or rain or anything whatsoever) so I can wear it above any clothing I got. It is very very bright yellow, with a lot of reflective strips before me, on the side, and behind me. Did you see worker on the road at night ? Same as this but on thhin material. You can also buy such a night worker best, they are rather expansive and protect from rain (I saw one at 250 euro) but they are thick and you can't wear over your clo
      • One of our former students is now starting a company that produces vests with built-in LEDs. They're bright glowing red from the back and white from the front. They, alone, are bright enough that you exceed the minimum legal requirements for bike lights at night even if you don't have any lights on the bike itself. Even better, they have flashing yellow lights in the arms that are activated when you lift the arm to the horizontal position. They're currently circulating some prototypes, but I'm looking f
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:07PM (#44231309)

    here [].

  • Thank you (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ssam ( 2723487 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:08PM (#44231323)

    Thank you for all your hard work. You will be missed.

  • by Irick ( 1842362 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:13PM (#44231379)
    It's sobering just how many of these great contributors to oss and technology in general have passed away these past few years. Mortality is not something I often contemplate at twenty two but I find it constantly popping up in the legacy of this subculture.

    I really do wonder if we are predisposed to see death as a problem that needs to be solved, because all I can think of are the tragic losses of minds and icons that could be prevented somehow and how valuable that would be to humanity as a whole.

    Seth will be missed and hopefully his work will live on.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:19PM (#44231429)

    They caught the guy who did this.

  • by CalRobert ( 2451626 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:24PM (#44231487)
    If you hit somebody and leave them to spend their last gasping breath in a gutter, it is not an "accident". It is manslaughter, or if a prank as described above, cold-hearted murder. I hate, hate, hate the US' auto-centric point of view. Tens of thousands of people per year are killed because of it. It needs to end. I hope I can get permanent residency outside of that cesspool.
    • by wisnoskij ( 1206448 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:40PM (#44231691) Homepage

      That is false, it is entirely possible to accidentally perform a hit and run.

      • by Chryana ( 708485 )

        Well, if you hit a cyclist and don't even notice it, which is why you "ran", maybe you should not be driving, accident or not.

      • "and run."
        Note the last part, you hit a car, then run.

      • It is possible to accidentally perform the actual hit. To run afterwards means you either knew you hit the person and then had depraved indifference to the potential to stop and assist and just maybe save that person's life, or that you were so unaware of what you were doing that you had a legal obligation not to drive in that condition, and the depraved indifference enters automatically at that point even if it's before the collision even happened. That's how my state views a hit and run fatality - you can

    • I've never been in an accident but once when I was in high school I saw some kids riding a quad in the ditch do an unintentional backflip. Even though it was the right thing to do I hesitated half a second before stopping just because I was worried I'd go out and have to deal with something real traumatic. Fortunately I did stop, more fortunately so did an off duty nurse, and most fortunately all the kids were fine.

      Anyway I can kind of understand why the drivers keep going, they didn't hurt the person on pu

  • Just seems that there's been a rash of OSS/Free Software/*nix people dying in weird circumstances lately.

  • by Trogre ( 513942 ) on Wednesday July 10, 2013 @01:47AM (#44234683) Homepage

    A very useful tool, and indispensable to users of Fedora, CentOS, Scientific Linux. Yum did for rpm what apt-get did for dpkg.

    Thank you, Seth.

  • My job would be a lot harder if it wasn't for yum. Thanks Seth. My condolences to your family.

"I shall expect a chemical cure for psychopathic behavior by 10 A.M. tomorrow, or I'll have your guts for spaghetti." -- a comic panel by Cotham