First Arab Supercar Costs $3.4 Million, Has Diamond-Encrusted Headlights 241
cartechboy writes "If you're looking for bling, you can always count on Dubai. At the Dubai Motor Show this week, Lebanon-based W Motors unveiled what is billed as the world's first Arab-built super car. The Lykan Hypersport incorporates jewels and precious metals in its construction, suicide-style doors, and an interactive holographic display system. (Yes, drivers will be able to adjust radio volume via a holograph.) The 750 horsepower car accelerates to 60 mph in just 2.8 seconds and has a top speed of 245 mph. The cost: $3.4 million, but owners will also receive a Cyrus Klepcys watch, said to be valued at around $200,000. W Motors plans a whopping 7 units for production."
Wonder about the mileage (Score:5, Funny)
Not that it is relevant to anyone who could possibly buy this.
Re:Wonder about the mileage (Score:5, Funny)
It's for the oil sheik who has everything.
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Honestly it looks more tasteful than I imagined.
I figured it would be shaped like a giant penis with death to america written on the windshield and really gaudy gems and gold chrome paint.
Re:Wonder about the mileage (Score:5, Insightful)
All of the Shieks LOVE america and americans. They are richer than anyone because of americans and our buying every drop of oil they can sell us.
It is the poor people that get upset as we support the ultra rich that kill the poor people for sport or do everything they can to keep them repressed and suppressed.
the price of ONE if these cars can elevate 300 Saudi poor to owning a modest home that is comfortable and has clean water and sanitation. But they will not do that. Instead they will drive this car and have their security torture and then kill any poor person who dares to steal one of the diamonds on the headlights.
Saudi poor? (Score:2)
The price of ONE if these cars can elevate 300 Saudi poor to owning a modest home that is comfortable and has clean water and sanitation.
You have no idea about Middle East. Saudi Arabia is a 19th century theocracy strongly influenced by Wahhabi style of Islam (they are super right wing wacko birds following Sharia.)
But Saudi Arabia is not a poor country, its one of the richest countries in the world. The stuff you imagine - clean water and sanitation for Saudi poor - does not exist. Because Saudi poor does not exist. There are unemployed Saudi youth...but they are not poor.
Do you know how the Arab Spring did not make a presence in Saud
Re:Wonder about the mileage (Score:4, Informative)
You seem to lack any education in history.. 90% was exports to the USA back in the beginning when they all got filthy rich.
Why you're an asshat in ... (Score:2, Informative)
two words: fungible commodity.
Re: Why you're an asshat in ... (Score:3)
Why you're an asshat in 6 words: starting your comment in the title. (Also some shit about throwing out big words with no indication that you actually know what it means, rather than just repeating it from the last time you were in a similar conversation, but the comment in the title thing grinds my gears more...)
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Regardless, it's still the US military that props up the regime in Saudi Arabia that allows those oil sheiks to continue to sell of the natural resources of the country. The point still stands that they owe a big portion of their vast wealth to the US.
Re:Wonder about the mileage (Score:4, Interesting)
Just because a customer makes you rich doesn't mean that you love or even respect them. More often than not, the opposite is true.
Something which Michael O'leary, the CEO of Ryan Air have proven again and again. A couple of sample quotes
“The European consumer would crawl naked over broken glass to get low fares.”
On passengers who forget to print their boarding pass: “We think [they] should pay 60 euros for being so stupid.”
"Anyone who thinks Ryanair flights are some sort of bastion of sanctity where you can contemplate your navel is wrong. We already bombard you with as many in-flight announcements and trolleys as we can. Anyone who looks like sleeping, we wake them up to sell them things."
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Only for those that lack empathy, basically psychopaths. For sane normal humans being the need for it is sickening and disgusting, as for being required to participate, I believe the correct saying is "It is better to die on your feet than die on your knees". For the boot lickers death at a whim is their and their families inevitable reward.
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"It's for the oil sheik who has everything."
More like a rapper.
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Yeah... I'm thinking most rappers wouldn't be able to afford this car.
It makes the Bugatti Veyron look like a toyota.
Re:Wonder about the mileage (Score:5, Interesting)
Except the Veyron is well built and a hell of a lot faster. This car is the prime example of gold plating a turd. Look at how they open the doors, they look as if they are ready to fall off. and the engine can not generate the HP they claim it can.
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I read it as 34 million dollars. /fail
Bugatti Veyron > Crazy Achmed's Supercar
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and the engine can not generate the HP they claim it can.
Maybe you've never heard of RUF?
They are the big swinging dicks of Porsche tuning and have attached their name to this project.
Their 2007 CTR3 creation is regularly featured in lists of "Top 100 [adjective] Cars In The World"
And it's obviously the engine that's being borrowed for this Lykan Hypersport.
I'm linking to RUF's website (in German) because wikipedia has the wrong stats for the engine:
http://www.ruf-automobile.de/index.php?id=30 [ruf-automobile.de]
552 kW (750 PS) bei 7.100 Umdrehungen pro 1/min.
Drehmoment
960 Nm bei 4.000 Umdrehungen pro Minute
In Imperial units, that's 745* Horsepower and 708 ft lbs,
which is clos
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With turbocharging and a large budget, you can make as much horsepower as you want from an engine. During the infamous turbo era of F1, engines with 1.5 liters of displacement were generating well in excess of 1000 HP.
That said, I don't think a 750 HP car can go 248 MPH without *serious* aerodynamic compromises. Look at the difference between the Koenigsegg with and without a rear wing as tested on Top Gear--the wing dropped the top speed by something like 20 MPH, but improved the track time significantly.
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The reason modern F1 cars actually top out at around 200 MPH is because anything above that is basically useless on a F1 course. There is no where and at no time can you exceed that. Shedding something that is basically useless to get you something non-useless is why it is done, and has nothing to do with anything outside of F1 racing. 750 HP is way more than you need to go 248 MPH. My 460 HP car can go 212 MPH, and I'm planning on upgrading it to 700HP this spring.
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No, the reason F1 cars are topping 200mph is because every few years the rules are changed to slow them down. They've banned ground effects, active suspension, turbocharging (until next year, on 1.6L 4 cylinders with very limited boost), reduced engine displacement continually since the 90s, implemented rev limits, maximum wing sizes, minimum ground clearance, etc, etc, etc.
Without those restrictions being put in place you can be damn sure they'd be hitting 250mph plus on some sections of track and drop
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In addition to RUF, several other notable firms are aiding the development of W Motors’ two cars. The list includes independent vehicle manufacturer and auto parts supply giant Magna Steyr, Italian design house StudioTorino and reborn Italian coachbuilder Carrozzeria Viotti.
Well, maybe not an Italian base, but hired the people that design them. The next question I'd ask is where it's built. But I couldn't determine that from the skim through TFA.
Re:Wonder about the mileage (Score:5, Interesting)
It looks to have a modified version of the 911 engine, so probably not too bad. Most "supercars" like this are Porsches or Ferrari/Lamborghinis with a body kit, sometimes an engine swap as well.
So, yeah. Just another example of some "expensive" bulls**t being little more than a much less expensive thing with lots of gratuitous and tacky bling glued on. (*)
:-P
I mean, so what? I could make the "world's most expensive car" by gluing the Koh-i-Noor diamond [wikipedia.org] to a 1998 Vauxhall Corsa [wikipedia.org]. Who cares? It's still just a clapped-out Vauxhall Corsa.
Then again, it's entirely appropriate that this would be unveiled at the Dubai motor show, held in a location notorious for its gratuitous bling architecture such as the Burj Khalifa [wikipedia.org], the tallest building in the world that needs trucks to remove all the crap [gizmodo.com] because they don't even have the sewage infrastructure. Yeah, I'm impressed guys... come back when you can actually develop a supercar- or half-modern society- yourselves. This doesn't count.
(*) Ironically, the reason why so many products at this level of "premium" *are* just bog-standard kit with jewels glued on is because they couldn't *actually* afford to pay what it would cost to develop a car that was (e.g.) 25% faster than the current record-holder or a phone that was twice as fast and had twice as high resolution as the current best model... unless they were to sell in large numbers, which would entirely defeat the purpose. The development and tooling cost would render them ludicrously expensive even for the richest people in the world- many of these things only work out as being economic because they're intended to sell in the millions to us plebs. You can wave several million dollars at Intel, and you still won't get a processor that's twice as fast as their current high-end mass-market model. Ha ha, nice Corsa you've got there.
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Regardless of quality, would anyone want to drive a vehicle like that on most roads and risk getting rear-ended by someone texting and didn't notice (or care) about the situation around them? Some stuff is just too valuable to be driven unless the cost to re-buy is chump change.
To a lesser extent, this car reminds me somewhat of the pre-iPhone cellular industry about 10 years ago. Nokia and others sometimes had models put out which were not as breathtakingly advanced, but instead, had silver/gold cases, i
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Regardless of quality, would anyone want to drive a vehicle like that on most roads and risk getting rear-ended by someone texting and didn't notice (or care) about the situation around them?
Anywhere in town you'll have your security entourage around you, so at least you can fire the guy who rear-ends you. And if your supercar gets rear-ended on the open road, you're doing it wrong.
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Vertu [vertu.com] still happily sells their phones with gems and precious metals in the cases. The iPhone hasn't hurt them at all, they've just switched to Android for their flagship model. I gawked at the models on display at IFC Mall in Hong Kong just last month.
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Regardless of quality, would anyone want to drive a vehicle like that on most roads and risk getting rear-ended by someone texting and didn't notice (or care) about the situation around them?
Hit the least favourite car of the least favourite nephew of the local dictator, spend the rest of your short life in prison (possibly with your family), or be killed outright by the nephew's security detail.
There was an episode of Top Gear where Hammond was test driving a supercar (Lambo baby-G?) in the Emirates and a local oil prince heard about it and apparently wanted to race them in his $2m MacMerc SLR. Without any notice, the police were ordered to close the main road so that the prince could have a d
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Yes yes... mileage yadda yadda. How long until Top Gear wraps it around a tree?
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The Stig wouldn't wrap it around a tree. Hammond might. Clarkson would roll it over into a canal. May wouldn't get it going fast enough to wrap it around anything. /amidoingitright?
Is that MSRP? (Score:2)
Minimum Sheikh Royalty Prices?
if a sheikh had $3 million spare, why not charity? (Score:4, Interesting)
And none of these "HE EARNT IT FROM THE SWEAT OF HIS BROW" lies, please.
1) Hard workers are poor - smart workers are rich;
2) Arab oil magnates CERTAINLY didn't work for it.
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And none of these "HE EARNT IT FROM THE SWEAT OF HIS BROW" lies, please.
1) Hard workers are poor - smart workers are rich;
2) Arab oil magnates CERTAINLY didn't work for it.
Not sure what you are intending to slam ... capitalism, or Islam?
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Arseholes of either or both religions.
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Capitalislam
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Many shieks give a lot to charity, if by charity you mean schools and facilities with the guy's picture everywhere and loyalty oaths before receiving largesse. It's how you build a power base. Christianity worked the same way quite some time ago, and Islam still works that way in poorer regions (that is: "Charity" in return for personal loyalty, not just faith in the religion).
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Charity still works that way in the Capitalist religion, too. Consider the stipulations that, e.g., the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation has placed on third-world countries pledging loyalty to "intellectual property" laws to protect Big Pharma before "charity" is rendered. Indeed, US foreign aid "charity" generally comes with strict requirements of loyalty to the interests of global megacorporations; nations that attempt to cut Wall Street profits out of the loop of uplifting their own people are general
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Oh, geez, another asshole who will dredge up any reason to hate Bill Gates. When you save 100000 children, you get to criticize.
Why should "US foreign aid" even matter? Don't you give significantly to charities which no such restrictions? Far more that the government gives on your behalf? I mean, I assume you donate a lot since you have such strong opinions on how the money should be used, right? You're not just trying to enslave random strangers to your personal values?
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I think you are missing out lucky, you don't have to smart to be born int wealth.
Even then their wealth was not originally created by hard work, or even smart work, it created by taking resources that belonged to everyone and using it to benefit themselves. Ok their ancestors where smart thieves, but not smart workers.
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You must be arguing from a theistic position. It's sure not supported by the genetic code as expressed by wolves, seagulls, sharks, or dragons.
Because the human greed gullet sometimes takes years to complete the swallowing motion, we're the dancing bees of declaring "dibs".
A highly popular dance move is the puerile head fake of vapid collectivism.
It's certainly true that all life on earth shares the destiny of our damp blue marble, which should give pause to the greedy algorithm running
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If you have $6 million just lying around and have just given $3 million to a good cause, that still leaves $3 million you could give to a good cause.
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Hey, if you ever win the lottery, you'll know what to do. But to each his own.
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Oh, I'm not trying to force anyone. Nor do I play the lottery :P.
Wow. (Score:5, Insightful)
Some people just really have more money than they know what to do with, don't they?
And this ladies and gents, is why I'm a socialist (Score:5, Insightful)
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I don't see how the grandparent was suggesting socialism but anyway.
Just because you don't believe in socialism doesn't mean that having people who do effectively no work and waste huge amounts or resources is right.
There are many things in between pure socialism and pure capitalism, and maybe even other ways that are not either.
I believe in both hard work, intelligence, risk taking, ... should be rewarded, but their also needs to be a level of fairness as well. It does not have to be totally fair life's to
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you are in a dream world if you think these people work 2500 times harder, better, smarter than the average worker.
Pay has nothing to do with that. At all. This is a common misunderstanding on Slashdot. Your pay is based on what the market says you're worth. The more skills a job requires / the fewer people there are with those skills = more pay.
There are a lot of people willing to work checkout counters, sweep floors and run the fry machine (BTW I have done all three at one point or another) because they don't have the skills or experience to get a different job. By contrast, there are a comparatively very very small n
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I say auction it off and use the proceeds for charity. Get the Sheiks all together in a room and see which 7 walk out with billion dollar cars. Hype the auction enough and you could sell it on pay-per-view to make back the initial investment.
(The only condition is that after the auction is final the Stig takes one around the track.)
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But the production run is seven. $23.8 M for all seven, buy one for each day of the week...
You know, I've been wondering about this (Score:5, Insightful)
The hard part isn't pointing all that out, it's boiling it down to a nice sound bite like Margaret did. Yeah, I can bang on all day about how we already produce enough food to feed 10 billion people, how automation is making the even 40 hour work week obsolete and about how single payer healthcare works better than the mess in North America. But that doesn't hit you in the gut like Margy's comment. It might be right (it is) but it doesn't _feel_ right. It doesn't appeal to common sense and emotion.
The problem socialists have is the right wing has simple answers to complex problems. Sure, they're self serving answers at best and horrifically wrong at worst, but given the choice it's much easier to get people to go along with them.
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The basis of socialism, that everything belongs to everybody, is as much an artificial construct as the notion of legal property in capitalism. The difference between the two is that the latter actually have improved the live
How much faster would it go.... (Score:2)
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Conspicuous Consumption (Score:5, Interesting)
Conspicuous consumption [wikipedia.org] is the spending of money on and the acquiring of luxury goods and services to publicly display economic power â" either the buyerâ(TM)s income or the buyerâ(TM)s accumulated wealth. Sociologically, to the conspicuous consumer, such a public display of discretionary economic power is a means either of attaining or of maintaining a given social status.
Moreover, invidious consumption, a more specialized sociologic term, denotes the deliberate conspicuous consumption of goods and services intended to provoke the envy of other people, as a means of displaying the buyerâ(TM)s superior socio-economic status.
Nothing new.
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What the hell is a buyerâ(TM)s
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It's what happens when a web site by geeks, for geeks, inexplicably manages to fail to support a character encoding standard that every other web site has handled for a decade.
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Well, it has stopped being â(TM)by geeksâ(TM), and therefore â(TM)for geeksâ(TM) a decade ago, too. Now itâ(TM)s rather â(TM)by moronsâ(TM) â(TM)for moronsâ(TM).
FTFY
"suicide-style doors" (Score:5, Insightful)
perhaps not the best marketing terminology for a vehicle, in that area of the world
This phenomenon needs to be studied (Score:2)
It seems that the uber wealthy run out of ways to flaunt it, so they have to come up with more and more outlandish displays to let others know how much more they have than you. These aren't even improvements in quality or aesthetics. Tooling around in a Bugatti is passe, apparently.
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There really seems to be a market for this sort of thing, that's the worst of
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Also, rhino riding motor cycle with a lance.
Priorites (Score:2)
I wont say they don't have the right to spend their money on what they want, but with people starving in the world this is offensive.
Features not that impressive (Score:5, Informative)
From the video, the door hold-up mechanism needs work. When they open the "suicide doors", which rotate backwards and upward, it looks like the counterbalancing system isn't quite right. The demonstrator has to adjust the door to keep it open, and then it shakes.
There is a web site for the company [wmotors.ae] with more specs. The engine is a 6-cylinder boxer type, which seems undersized for the claimed performance. Most supercars have from 8 to 18 cylinders.
Surprisingly, it's not an all-wheel drive vehicle. Most supercar-class sedans are. I'm surprised they can get that acceleration with rear wheel drive only. There are rear wheel drive race cars that can do it, but sedan-sized cars usually need all-wheel drive to get enough traction. The rear tires aren't especially large. There's nothing like Formula I aerodynamics to get huge levels of downforce. I wonder if this thing's claimed acceleration just reflects performance on a dynamometer.
No active suspension, either. That's a real problem with supercars - if they're low enough to go fast, they're too low to go anywhere. See Top Gear's evaluation of the Bugatti Veyron, where it takes them an hour and wooden blocks to get it out of a driveway.
Maintenance: "a team of qualified W engineers will fly to anywhere in the world to service your Hypercar or to help with any problem you might encounter with the Lykan at any given time."
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The engine is a 6-cylinder boxer type, which seems undersized for the claimed performance. Most supercars have from 8 to 18 cylinders.
Why don't supercars use Wankel rotary engines [wikipedia.org]? Twice the power-to-weight ratio of piston engines, fewer moving parts, more efficient at high speed, intrinsically balanced and low-vibration and can run at much higher RPMs.
Or, failing that, a hybrid electric gas turbine system?
What's with the Victorian engine design?
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The engine is a 6-cylinder boxer type, which seems undersized for the claimed performance. Most supercars have from 8 to 18 cylinders.
Why don't supercars use Wankel rotary engines [wikipedia.org]? Twice the power-to-weight ratio of piston engines, fewer moving parts, more efficient at high speed, intrinsically balanced and low-vibration and can run at much higher RPMs.
Or, failing that, a hybrid electric gas turbine system?
What's with the Victorian engine design?
Because supercars are made for the experience. The sound, the vibration, etc are part of the experience. More power is not necessarily desirable if the rest of the driving experience suffers.
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because it's nearly impossible to keep the cool.
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the door hold-up mechanism needs work. When they open the "suicide doors", which rotate backwards and upward, it looks like the counterbalancing system isn't quite right. The demonstrator has to adjust the door to keep it open, and then it shakes.
Wobbliness aside, that appears to be a feature so that the door gives a bit when you bash your turban into it while trying to get out.
Diamond Encrusted Headlights (Score:2)
Some one in Bangladesh is going to be very happy (Score:2)
Fun fact: Saudi Arabia prohibits women from driving cars, has imported some half million Pakistanis, Indians and Bangladeshis drivers.
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Have they actually built it yet? (Score:2)
I see a lot of CGI, and this:
If W Motors manages to pull it off, the Lykan Hypersport could potentially be the first car to feature an interactive holographic display system
And I'd Get A New Watch! (Score:2)
3.4 million. US dollars.
Hmmm ...
Naw, I doan' need no steenking watch.
Meh (Score:2)
Does Not Qualify As a Super Car (Score:2)
It can't be considered a super car. It is missing one key ingredient...
A proper super car requires a magic horn to transform it into its super form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQnnZOJSlh0 [youtube.com]
Monster cable territory? (Score:2)
Didn't the doors look a bit flimsy/wobbly when it was first opened?
The end of the video links to the Devel Sixteen that claims will have 5000 hp, go from 0-60 in 1.8 sec., with a max speed of 348 mph. I don't know about you but these cars seem like they're for autophiles who use Franklins as toilet paper. Who knows how well they will perform.
This is what's wrong with the ultra wealthy (Score:2)
It is shaped like.... (Score:2)
Why holographic? (Score:2)
NOT Supercar (Score:2)
If doesn't fly and go underwater, it's not Supercar [wikipedia.org]!
Scum of the fucking earth (Score:2)
I can't wait until these shitheads run out of oil and thus money. The massive human rights violations these fuckheads are responsible for are sickening. They don't deserve this decadence. They barely even deserve to be alive.
Also fuck moral relativism. Jailing gays is wrong. Forcing women to cover themselves is wrong. Imposing their religion through force of government on people is wrong.
Re:Luddites (Score:4, Insightful)
From reading Slashdot I understand that 3d printers can only be used to make guns.
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Or rather, how many tens of embedded CPUs running Linux are hidden within components of that car.
Re:Suicide-style doors? (Score:5, Informative)
Suicide doors are doors with the hinges at the rear, so that it's "suicide" to open them if the vehicle is moving at any speed. In a regular car, the slipstream will tend to push the doors closed. With suicide doors, the slipstream tends to rip the doors fully open. If you're not belted in (the term dates to before mandatory seatbelts), and holding onto the door handle, you're likely to get yanked out too.
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Modern technology can prevent this problem. Electric latches controlled by vehicle speed and some sensing to ensure positive latch operation.
One advantage of this configuration is that the hinge, spring, counterweight assemblies are closer to the center of the vehicle. Important for a high performance, lightweight design.
<rant>Doors that swing upwards are also an advantage for smaller, lower vehicles parking in tighter spots. The "Compact Car" marked spots are nearly useless for smaller and lower tw
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1%? 1 out of 100 can afford this? Right.
This is for the 0.001%.
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If it's for the 1%, why advertise it?
At the other comment points out, this is for the 0.001%.
But, generally you advertise such products to a wider audience, because why would the 1% (or 0.001%) buy stuff like this if the rest of the world couldn't tell how expensive it is? How big would the appeal of a Rolex watch be, if nobody else could tell that it's not some random no-name watch bough from a market selling chinese junk products (which, ironically, most "Rolexes" are).
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Don't worry, after the oil runs out in a few decades they'll be back to humping camels in tents.
When the oil runs out, the smart ones will follow the example of the Roman Catholic church, set up an Islamic version of Vatican City, and then the oil income they are no longer pulling in can be replaced by offerings from their Muslim followers throughout the Western world. They could pull in hundreds of billions per year that way.
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Already done...Haj is big business.
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Should it look like the oil is going to run out and/or something else is going to replace it I might invest in Dubai.
I think my "Come and laugh at the ragheads and kick them in the ass until your foot hurts" themed holidays will go down a treat.
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with a production of only 7, it's not like they can cut it for spare parts
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You'll just believe anything, won't you? Yes, it's unfortunate that we prop up the Middle East to ensure reasonably low oil prices, but that's no excuse for crazy conspiracy theories (my favorite being: we went to war to ensure low oil prices so that oil companies could make higher profits - how it that I don't even?)
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Oh wait, it has http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket [wikipedia.org]
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Sure, it has happened, but at least spin a crazy conspiracy theory that makes some kind of damn sense! Was the war supposed to raise or lower oil prices - which would oil companies like? If the war benefitted some specific corporation, at least pick one that had amazing profits during or after the war. At least tell a story that fits!
Sheesh, at least if I claim that Obama couldn't produce a long-form birth certificate because he's a shape-shifting reptoid from Mars, it's at least consistent with availabl