And Now For Something Completely Different: Monty Python Reunion Planned 168
cold fjord writes with this report from The Telegraph: "The original members of Monty Python will reunite more than 30 years after the comedy troupe last worked together. John Cleese, Terry Gilliam, Terry Jones, Eric Idle and Michael Palin will officially announce their reformation at a London press conference on Thursday. The five surviving members have reportedly been in months of secret talks about getting the Flying Circus back on the road. The reunion comes after several failed attempts to reform by the group. However, according to The Sun, the surviving members realised 'it was now or never,' and had decided to embark upon 'a fully-fledged reunion.'" Related stories include this commentary, one take on the best of Python and this negative reaction, too.
Ah, they are not dead. (Score:4, Funny)
They are just pining for the fjords.
Re:Ah, they are not dead. (Score:4, Funny)
They are just pining for the fjords.
Did somebody call?
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I'll feel free to comment here or on any story that I care to. And I suggest you don't look to see who submitted this story.
You might be a little tense. Perhaps you need some exercise. Why don't you fall in with that lot [youtube.com]?
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What kinda talk is that....?
If you hadn't nailed them to the perch, they'd be pushing up the daisies!!!
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They are just pining for the fjords.
Perhaps taking a page out of Eric Idle's playbook - we'll call it The Greedy Bastards Tour.
If they do come anywhere near where I live I will be there.
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Well, that's before they finish off their secret plan: Tell the funniest joke in the world, on stage. Because what a way to go, even if it takes an entire audience with them!
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Don't be a baby. Now come at me with a banana.
Wow! (Score:5, Funny)
Nobody expected that!
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Nobody expected that!
No one expects Monty Python Reunion.
Re:Wow! (Score:4, Funny)
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Surprise, and comedy.
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Their two weapons are surprise, comedy and ruthless absurdity.
Re:Wow! (Score:4, Funny)
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They're just pining for the fjords.
Can't wait to get tickets (Score:3)
Monty Python on 1/8th power (Score:2)
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Still better than Andrew Dice Clay's "Weeping Openly in a Fetal Position" tour.
Graham (Score:5, Funny)
With another special appearance by Dr. Chapman's Urn.
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and he'll have all the best lines!
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Better late than never!
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Muffled cries of "I'm not dead yet"?
Re:Graham (Score:5, Funny)
A: "Given that Graham Chapman is dead, about two bullets each ought to do the trick."
Poorly titled.... (Score:2)
Don't get me wrong - I love these guys as much as anyone else. But isn't this going to be the exact opposite of "Something Completely Different"?
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Nothing inadequately conventional?
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I just can't believe Gilliam would get involved simply for them to go on a tour redoing forty year old skits. Palin and Jones have continued to be writing partners, Cleese still dabbles in it, Idle is constantly writing annoying music and Gilliam, well, he's pretty much my favorite filmmaker, who has, in his way, kept the spirit of Python going while the others have gone in other directions, coasted, or in the case of Idle, ravaged the corpse for Broadway revues.
"We're not dead yet!" (Score:2)
"Well they're coughing up blood!"
"Isn't there anything you can do?"
"Oh Alright.."
Obligatory (Score:5, Insightful)
So hopefully they'll give us some new spontaneous material to drive into the ground with endless repetition for decades to come? (And i admit, i'm as guilty of that as the next geek.)
Success through constant failure (Score:5, Insightful)
Some of Monty Python's routines are absolute classics that merit repetition, because they're that good. But that's only the very cream of the crop. Most skits were eminently forgettable; a fair number were just plain bad. And watching Flying Circus, it often seems as if they had no idea which were which.
Monty Python was willing to go way outside the box. The box usually exists for a reason: it's the material that has worked. There are some brilliant new ideas outside the box, and a vast world of crap. It takes a genius to find the pearls among that crap, and Monty Python were without doubt just such geniuses. But even so, what they brought back still required a fair bit of sifting.
Flying Circus episodes can be enjoyed simply for the joy of the search. The skits that fail were (frequently, at least) noble failures. They came, they tried, and we mostly forgot about them. If their stunning, world-changing successes did nothing more than expand the box... well, that's an accomplishment. You're never going to destroy the box entirely, because the fact is that the vast majority of ideas are just plain bad.
I'll be happy to see if those geniuses can find something worth expanding the box still further, but I have to suspect that it'll look more like Flying Circus than Holy Grail. (Holy Grail was, itself, a holy grail: a stunning fraction of it worked, in a way that few other things they tried did.) Good on them for trying it; it's the risk of failure that makes the successes worthwhile.
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To be fair, that's because a good deal of what they brought back was cultural or topical or both... things which don't bear much repetition, don't export well, and generally age very badly.
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I curse Python. But for them I would have gone to my grave not knowing who 'Reginald Mordling' was. He was an English Parlementcritter. Think 'Tip O'Neal' with bad teeth. He also had a funny name.
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There were some basic comedy rules, like power-rivalry and sudden role reversal. You could have some strong characters like Vikings come across a Death like ferryman, covered head-to-toe like a leper. With a deep booming voice Death summons their leader to sit in the boat and be ferried to the land of his ancestors and feast for all eternity. The Viking leader knocks him into the river, steals the boat and goes off looking for women. Next thing you have the Death frantically paddling in the water, shouting
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(And i admit, i'm as guilty of that as the next geek.)
You did it in this very post. I'm curious how many people realize the irony* of calling that comic reference obligatory. Linking an obligatory comment is at the heart of what that particular comic was attacking.
To be fair, some of the sketches, like the "Four Yorkshireman" skit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo) lend themselves very well to ad-libbing without entirely descending into snowclone memes.
*I don't care about your particular definition of irony.
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I don't care about your particular definition of irony.
It's like goldy, or silvery, but made of iron. You know, the opposite of wrinkly.
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Memories are tied to emotion (Score:2)
Memories are tied to emotion. In broad strokes, emotions act as a "volume control" for how well and easily you remember. A situation accompanied by emotion is important for survival, so you tend to remember the details. It's why we can recall the exciting parts of movies, but not the dialogue.
It's also why, even now 30 years later, nerds can recite large swatches of Monty Python verbatim.
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Go look up the list of things that made David Banner go green over the course of the series. You'll laugh your ass off.
What's the big deal (Score:2)
I have watched several Monty Python stuff. There are a few skits here and there which are very funny. But a lot of them are boring.
OTOH, I am a big fan of John Cleese's Fawlty Towers. I have watched every episode atleast 20 times and it's always amazingly funny.
They had their reunion in 1983 (Score:2)
A Pythons reunion now would be like a Beatles reunion consisting of just Ringo.
I'm a programmer and I'm above average -or so (Score:4, Funny)
I cut down b-trees, I skip and jump, I like to piss off people by using gotoes.
My code is unintelligible and I hang around with the coffee machine.
I wish I were a metal worker just like my dear mama.
I should not have pushed the submit button bit still I did.
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A number of years I actually came across a great, similar parody titled "The Engineer" song, particularly amusing in that the chorus was, "I'm an engineer and I'm ok / I work all night and I sleep all day". Totally can't find that one now, sadly.
And yeah, yours doesn't even come *close* to scanning properly.
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It doesn't rhyme.
Then again it doesn't scan either.
YOU SUCK.
We apologise for the fault in the comment. The person responsible has been sacked, and whill shortly be replaced by a Lla, err, Monty Python.
Silly walks.. (Score:2)
I will have to do one in celebration! As soon as I get back from my weekly meeting of the Peoples Front of Judea.. or was it the Peoples Judean Front?
icon choice (Score:5, Interesting)
Funny that the icon on this picture is the British phone booth, not the Python foot used for humor stories.
A prediction (Score:4, Funny)
The reunion comes after several failed attempts to reform by the group.
The Pythons may reunite but they'll never reform. Especially Chapman.
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If Cleese has his say... (Score:2)
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Cleese was always a bit of an asshole. Watch interviews with him from any period from when they first made it big until now, and he was came off as abrasive, arrogant and argumentative. Even he, on occasion, has admitted it. And he's been bitching about ex-wives as long as he had ex-wives, so that's nothing new. The only thing new is he asking you to fork over the money for a ticket to hear him bitch about his ex-wives instead of showing up on talk shows and doing it for free.
Another major prick is Eric Idl
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I haven't followed what he's been up to for a very long while, but I do recall he had a rather idi osyncratic opinion on what made humour. He believed for something to be funny it had to be awkward, uncomfortable, embarassing, uncomfortable. And you can see there was a lot of that in Fawlty Towers and it worked.
But for me it was enough. I don't want to experience large doses of uncomfortable feelings so he lost me.
So he's not just a bitter old man - maybe somewhat I don't know - but he thinks that is the es
Now for something completely different (Score:2)
30 years? Unpossible!! (Score:5, Funny)
And now for something completely the same (Score:2)
I hope doing "The Ministry of Silly Walks" doesn't cause Cleese to break a hip.
Too bad it's to be a live show (Score:2)
It's too bad it's to be a live show. Ah well, hopefully they film at least one performance and release it for distribution.
Though I'm sure the "Ministry of Silly Walks" may have taken a hit due to arthritis by this time. :)
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We are The ministry of slow hobbling down the road.
We used to be the ministry of silly walks, but that was silly
you mean you got old.
shhh.
Oh yeah? (Score:2)
Get on with it!
Sorry, no (Score:3)
I admit, I was an inveterate Pythonite in my high school and college years, when it was still a cliquey-cool thing that not everyone knew about. I can - with too little prompting - recite great swathes of any Python film or most of the TV episodes, I watched them so many times.
So I was delighted when I had the opportunity and the cash to go see their live show in Minneapolis, I think it was in the later 80s.
Hm. Sad might be too strong a word. Poignant?
Here were some men and women who'd really pushed the boundaries of comedy and done some amazing things - sure, some were misses (and I dare you to watch through the Monty Python complete ouevre without recognizing that a few really sucked), but many were hits and some were downright brilliant. And now? nearly 20 years later? Rehashing the SAME tired old bits again and again like cymbal-clapping monkeys, hoping to be thrown some small change.
I'm current in the midst of Palin's first diaries, and already by the mid 1970s, Michael is complaining that their traveling show is nothing but a re-hash of their brightest moments. How prescient is that?
And now for something completely...the same?
Watching people endlessly ape Rocky Horror is one thing; it's frozen forever in celluloid. Every replay of it HAS to be the same. But with humans, that's kind of sad. Like the tired old uncle at Thanksgiving dinner that had a funny joke once, but he tells the same one every year. People grant him a perfunctory laugh, but nobody really means it. One wonders if even he believes it's genuine or is this all some sort of comedy - if not actually comical - ritual?
Uncle, PLEASE tell some other story to make us laugh. At least try.
If you don't have one, or dare no longer risk not getting a chuckle, maybe let someone else tell theirs?
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I also wonder why some people have certain movies they like to watch over and over. I think my (screen) time is too precious for that, I like to watch something new every time. There are too many interesting movies, books etc. made every year, and I always miss some of them anyway.
There's probably a close connection to the way people (not me, "the people"!) use the web and social media, choosing a nice circle of familiarity to dwell in/on. It's a kind of masturbation; self improvement is masturbation --
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FWIW, at reaching my mid 40's, I now recognize that I simply don't have enough lifetime left to waste on nostalgia.
If you add the time-commitment of the: ....and add that to my current age, it EASILY exceeds my allotted three-score-and-some, even were I to sleep nothing more than 3 hours a night and have no gainful employment.
- stack of books I want to read
- computer games I want to play
- movies I want to see
I rarely give a book more than 5 chapters, or a movie more than a half hour. If I don't actively en
Please don't. (Score:2)
I love MP. I watched the shows, movies. I've been a fan snce the 70's. Getting them together to rehash their old work will just be sad.
Now. if hey all do completely new stuff, that would be interesting. There much older and have different life experiences. Lets see what they can create will all that experience.
If I want to to watch the cheese shop, I'll load it up.
Have you in fact got any cheese here at all.
Yes, sir.
Really?
No. Not really, sir.
You haven't.
Nosir. Not a scrap. I was deliberatel
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well as long as it confuses someone.
anyways, some of cleeses newer comments have been funny.
aaanyhow, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Afv3U_ysc [youtube.com]
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now my cat is confused.
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Always Look on the... (Score:2)
Bright Side of Life (whistles).
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Frankly, I'm glad they're not in US, because I'm pretty sure they wouldn't fit.
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Re:They're planning a reunion? (Score:5, Informative)
That's not an argument. You're just being contradictory.
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I'm sorry, your five minutes are up.
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I'm afraid it was.....
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That's still better than nickleback.
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Well yes, but Gay Hitler Sings The Hits is better than Nickelback.
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Speaking of that.... [youtube.com]
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REALLY? On a thread like this and you really have to invoke Godwin's law so soon? Really?
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You've got the wrong map here. That's Stalingrad.
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howard johnson is right!
I'll give you GOODWIN, you insolent whelp! (Score:3)
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
hee hee, saved by the slashtot umlat (tm)!!
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If Terry Gilliam is involved, I doubt it will just be a rehash. Besides, I have a fairly good feeling Terry Jones has likely been sitting on some damned good material for the last quarter century.
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i would pay to see that.
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They need moar moneyz. Seriously. There are fans that would pay, even if just to see the same material repeated over again. I'm a fan, but I don't need to see the old stuff played again by, as you say, old men.
However, if they were to present some good new stuff, that would be a different story. I'd really appreciate some new stuff.
Joke time: How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb? Two, one to hold the giraffe, and the other to fill the bath tub with multicolored power-tools.
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A Fish.
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No, it's a sail boat.
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It's a sailfish!
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Three
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Not really looking for yet another "Best of Python" stitched together and acted by old men.
I'll have you're Python, then. I love it!
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I think they should do exactly that, and call it "And now for something completely the same."
Re:Enough reunions (Score:4, Insightful)
Actually I don't think you're right here. I don't think anyone in Python would agree with you, either. By their own admission they built on and expanded the type of humor that "The Goon Show" brought to prominence. They aren't a copy of the Goon Show, but go listen to it and you'll hear the legacy.
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Well, to be fair, I'd say Peter Cook and the Goons were pretty major influences, and the Pythons regularly cite them. Certainly Spike Milligan's anarchic humor is a straight line between the comedic revolution of the 1950s and early 1960s and Python. The chief difference between the Q series and Python was that Milligan was pretty deranged and more inconsistent than the Pythons, but still that fundamental absurdism is something the Pythons built on.
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The beginnings of the Q series and Monty Python were about the same time. After watching each other Spike apparently wanted to do what Monty Python was doing and vice versa. There was some direct cross-pollination during that period of time.
Re:Enough reunions (Score:4, Interesting)
I've watched a fair chunk of the first couple of Q series, and while there are some insanely funny bits, all in all, I find Milligan, on his own, could get a little tiresome. Perhaps, in part, it was because there was six Pythons who would sit down, hear the sketches the others had come up with and would be able to throw it out the trash, or perhaps reuse it in inventive and unforeseen ways, whereas Milligan didn't have the benefit of a large group of equals to clean up material. Milligan was also far more willing to go for a cheap laugh, and even by late 1960s and early 1970s standards some of his skits were astonishingly racist.
I look at this way; Monty Python without the Fish Slapping Dance would not have been Monty Python. Monty Python that was a large part Fish Slapping Dances would have been unbearable.
Still, Milligan was a comedic genius of the first order, who, when he was in his head, was probably one of the funniest men who ever lived. Every time I watch the skit with the domestic Daleks blowing up everyone and everything in the flat, I fall off my chair.
Re:Enough reunions (Score:5, Interesting)
When the Pythons were in Malta filming 'Life of Brian', they heard that Spike was staying nearby on holiday. So they called him up, and quickly changed a few scripts to write him into the film.
. They shot the first day, and all was well and good... then the next day Spike didn't turn up for filming. Hurriedly they chased him up and found he had gone home!
So, back to re-writing the scripts again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym-k5viJ7tA
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"We are all individuals"
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At this point it's for their benefit. Let the old guys wallow in nostalgia. It's what old folks do.
Who knows, they might surprise us with something new and good.
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Who knows, they might surprise us with something new and good.
Ya mean like George Lucas and Ridley Scott did with their magnum opi?
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The plural of Opus is opuses or opera.
Opi is said by pretentious ignorant music wanks.
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Oh, ok. Thanks.
What's the plural of asshole?
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You mean like a Rolling Stones Concert or watching [80's Super band] run through their standards?
Last time I want to a concert featuring a band I loved in the late 70/80s it was a shock (yeah, talking about you CSN). It would have been better to put speakers outside and listen with my eyes closed to a playlist of their songs. I don't want to see old guys overwriting the memories of when they were young guys. Even when I saw Springsteen, and he almost never ages, it was not the same.
I'd almost prefer a sh
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I said might.
When they were young they made us laugh by mocking the old.
Now that they are old maybe will make us laugh mocking the young. They deserve it.
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Good point. I'll amend that when I watched a show with James Taylor and Carol King I loved it. They made their old stuff sound fresh in more intimate way which I enjoyed. At the least it will be something to see.
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Mission of Burma came out of retirement about 20 years after they broke up. When I got their first studio album after this hiatus I was nervous about it. I almost didn't want to listen to it for fear that what esteem I had for them would be shattered if it was garbage. It turned out great and even for a bunch of aging punks they've still got it where it counts.
On the other hand, we've seen many giants come out of retirement and totally fall on their face. This ha
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I still can't bring myself to listen to the new 'sex pistols' album.