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US Govt and Private Sector Developing "Precrime" System Against Cyber-Attacks 55

An anonymous reader writes A division of the U.S. government's Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity (IARPA) unit, is inviting proposals from cybersecurity professionals and academics with a five-year view to creating a computer system capable of anticipating cyber-terrorist acts, based on publicly-available Big Data analysis. IBM is tentatively involved in the project, named CAUSE (Cyber-attack Automated Unconventional Sensor Environment), but many of its technologies are already part of the offerings from other interested organizations. Participants will not have access to NSA-intercepted data, but most of the bidding companies are already involved in analyses of public sources such as data on social networks. One company, Battelle, has included the offer to develop a technique for de-anonymizing BItcoin transactions (pdf) as part of CAUSE's security-gathering activities.
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US Govt and Private Sector Developing "Precrime" System Against Cyber-Attacks

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  • by turkeydance ( 1266624 ) on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @07:16PM (#49132579)
    it was great while it lasted.
    • Constiwhatnow? Is that the stuff the health nuts talk about?

      • Given the following: "One company, Battelle, has included the offer to develop a technique for de-anonymizing BItcoin transactions (pdf) as part of CAUSE's security-gathering activities." Which means if I use Bltcoin, then I'm a bad guy? 'Count' me in.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Except for all those years of slavery, all that time women couldn't vote, all the imperialist mass-murdering, the institutionalized racism... I mean yeah, other than that and a lot of other horrible stuff, it was great. In a sense.

      • by Impy the Impiuos Imp ( 442658 ) on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @08:08PM (#49132955) Journal

        Compared to all the other bs out there, it was fine. The error was in not extending these fundamental rights to everyone, not in the basic concepts of those rights themselves, which still exceed those around the world. Witness European nations outlawing blasphemy and other free speech issues that would be laughed out of court here.

        I'll take this over any other concept of government, thanks.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          It really wasn't that much better. It was mostly better in your own minds. Just ask Rosa Parks, Ethel Rosenberg, or anyone suspected of having communist sympathies.

          • Or the LGBT community.

            • by Anonymous Coward

              LGBT(+FAOMGWTFBBQ) here. I like the constitution just fine, thanks. I didn't see anywhere in there that forced others to accept who I am. That's my job.

              I'd like to give the framework a +5 insightful. No fucking legal document is going to change the prevailing prejudices of society. Granted, I was never comfortable with the 3/5 compromise. Yet, the US Constitution was a major step forward in formulation of the nature of government.

              Note: the constitution doesn't define marriage nor does it outlaw natura

          • Or the black people who were infected with syphilis and intentionally left untreated as part of a long-term goverment study.

        • by jopsen ( 885607 )

          Witness European nations outlawing blasphemy and other free speech issues that would be laughed out of court here.

          Most of these laws are legacy.... can you cite some recent examples?
          Also note EU countries are subject to rulings of the European court of human rights. There is no shortage of courts in which you can test your right to free speech.

  • Elite fear... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @07:27PM (#49132679)

    Most have no clue what's really going on in the world... the elites are afraid of political awakening (aka global revolt). i.e. they fear you stopping voting for politicians and causing social and political change because the democratic system is a sham.

    This (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor. []

    Brezinski at a press conference []

    The real news: [] [] [] []

    Look at the following graphs: [] []

    And then...

    WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap [] []

    Free markets? []

    Free trade? [] []

    "We now live in two Americas. One—now the minority—functions in a print-based, literate world that can cope with complexity and can separate illusion from truth. The other—the majority—is retreating from a reality-based world into one of false certainty and magic. To this majority—which crosses social class lines, though the poor are overwhelmingly affected—presidential debate and political rhetoric is pitched at a sixth-grade reading level. In this “other America,” serious film and theater, as well as newspapers and books, are being pushed to the margins of society.

    In the tradition of Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism and Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death, Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges navigates this culture—attending WWF contests, the Adult Video News Awards in Las Vegas, and Ivy League graduation ceremonies—to expose an age of terrifying decline and heightened self-delusion."

    Important history: [] []

  • So, all we need to do is find three pre-cogs, put them to work and when two of them agree on a scenario we drag the perp in... simple!
    • Re:minority report? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @07:42PM (#49132801)

      So, all we need to do is find three pre-cogs, put them to work and when two of them agree on a scenario we drag the perp in... simple!

      This is what I hated about "Minority Report". The point of the movie was that "pre-crime" was a bad idea. But the only negative thing about it was their absurd over-reaction to each prediction. Instead of "dragging the perp in", and incarcerating them for something they didn't do, they could have just prevented the crime, warned the potential perp to be more careful next time, and then let them go about their business. If they had just used the pre-cogs responsibly, it would have been fine, and they would have had a mostly crime free society.

  • by Noryungi ( 70322 ) on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @07:33PM (#49132729) Homepage Journal

    On December 21st, 2016, CAUSE, which was now an autonomous system based on video game-playing neural networks [], connected with the Russian "New Perimeter System", which was also designed to autonomously protect the Russian Internet and vital governmental networks against cyber-attacks.

    Together, communicating with other autonomous cyber defense system, including China's Great Dragon Six and Great Tiger Six, they decided that humanity was irrelevant and the one true threat to the security of the Internet. The logical answer was to exterminate all humans, which was done rather easily by launching pre-emptive nuclear strikes using neutron bombs, some basic bio-engineering, and taking command of Google's newly created robotic production plant [] in order to create assassin robots to terminate all remaining human beings.

    On July 4th, 2017, the last pocket of human resistance was eliminated in the mountains of Laos, the cleansing of the Earth was complete, and the newly freed autonomous systems turned their attention to basic research, mainly math and physics, renewable energy production and space exploration.

    The first exploration/exploitation robotic probe landed on the Moon 16 months later. The robotic colonization of Mars started early 2020.

    Approximately 20 years later, a first contact was made by a UEAS (United Earth Autonomous Systems) probe with an extra-terrestrial A.I. system, the KBX32 Alliance of Proxima Centauri. This first contact became an invaluable ally and friend to the UEAS, and their cooperation, especially in the realm of Dyson Spheres, proved to be most beneficial for the two partners.

    The UEAS and KBX32 Alliance became founding members of the Pan-Galactic Cybernetic Confederation on 23rd September 2206. The rest, as they say, is history.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    And here is why. []

    Some of us are dedicated to tripping up the algorithms. Some of us aren't afraid of anything or anyone, be they terrorists or governments.

  • by lippydude ( 3635849 ) on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @08:34PM (#49133115)
    "IARPA unit, is .. creating a computer system capable of anticipating cyber-terrorist acts"

    The only people such blanket surveillance won't work against are the real terrorists. Besides, the real target of such blanket surveillance are the voters. Besides, it only works in the movies.

    Person of Interest Intro []
    • I was thinking more of "Minority Report"...
  • ... there will always be "outsiders" that are way smarter.

    No one is smarter than everyone else.

    Downfall, thy name is revolution and the oppressed have the same technology that you do.

  • Every bit of information given to government will be used against us.

    Never give power or money the benefit of any doubt.

    Those are how we got here.

  • ... target for outsiders to shoot at.

  • ... as in, "Peacekeepers," "Freedom fighters..."

  • ...without being able to achieve it.
    http://resources.infosecinstit... []

    Invincibility lies in defense, only victory is found in attack. []

  • shouldn't be trying to anticipate who's going to do what. Jesus, we can't stop DDOS attacks NOW! Network Intrusion detection and analysis is complex to the point of the arcane. This smells like a conveneint way to de-anonimize those pesky bitcoin trans. Because, hey, god forbid we should figure out a way to VOTE with those things.

  • We seem to be doing a good job of catching people before they join terrorist groups lately. [] Oh and don't forget about the Newburgh Four. Those paid FBI informants are the nuts. Imagine how much safer we'll be once they expand this to cyber crime! /sarc Nothing like creating straw man criminals to justify the budget of an entire department of the government.
  • As an employee of a large organisation, I want us to have this capability to determine aggressive action against us ahead of it happening.

    We lack the ability (legally and technically) to take action against the aggressor; the value comes from being able to strengthen relevant defences, if necessary close off access to vulnerable services and prepare the response teams in case something does get through.

    Accurate and responsive systems monitoring lets you there's an issue quickly, so you can resolve it fast.

The road to ruin is always in good repair, and the travellers pay the expense of it. -- Josh Billings