Ask Slashdot: Identifying a Stolen Car Using Police Camera Databases? 72
Dear Slashdot: First, some background. I have been "between schools" for some time, but have recently entered a training program that could at least potentially turn into a lucrative career. The work involves investigating, torture testing, and sometimes bypassing various automotive sub-systems, primarily car ignition, security and other embedded systems, for clients who are often surprised just how fragile these systems can be. The pay is minimal while I'm something more like an intern than a full-time employee, but that's OK -- I figure these skills will stand me in good stead. Now, my problem, and a question: One of the vehicles which I would very much like to play with is unavailable to me and my coworkers for the simple reason that it was stolen before we'd even taken possession of it. Normally, my employer might just write off the loss, but for various reasons would really like to locate this car in particular -- perhaps mostly a point of pride, but partly because future contracts from the same client might hinge on locating it rather than looking incompetent. I know that Ars Technica recently showed that it was possible to obtain a great deal of information about scanned registration-plate data using FOIA and other legal means; what I want to know is whether anyone can recommend particular tools or methods for locating stolen cars with such data that doesn't rely on going through the police or insurance companies, saving embarrassment and hassle. I know enough that I could probably file a FOIA *request* (most likely, my supervisor already has, actually) but not sure what we will be able to do with the raw data returned, or if there are sources for data other than "$Plate + GeoCoords." Plates obviously can be changed, too; are there publicly available sources for whole-car images that could be efficiently scanned? Best, of course, would be images with at least some rough sorting applied, so things could be sorted both by geography (we'd focus on our own area, Southern Caifornia, so start with, because we have reason to believe it was stolen in this area) and at least by vehicle type or color. And of course, this is probably asking too much, since I imagine it will be a near-impossible task to get this kind of data; we'd also welcome the magic of crowd-sourcing, so if you spot a tan Chevy Maibu with New Mexico plates (K88-283), there's probably some nice incentives in it for you.
News Flash (Score:1)
locating it rather than looking incompetent
I hope said client doesn't read Slashdot.
You "intern" for...? (Score:1)
Are you working for organised crime? Is that why you can't reoort the car stolen?
Re:You "intern" for...? (Score:5, Funny)
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Yes - I was thinking something similar.
Backstory - his wife recently left him and took the car.
"Dear Slashdot - help me find a car that belongs to my employer"
Have you ever reported anything stolen? (Score:2)
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What about all the cash they get from civil forfeitures [wikipedia.org]? Oh, I forgot, that just pays for vacations, margarita machines, tanning beds, gold plated whistles and things like that. Not for solving crimes.
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Are you working for organised crime? Is that why you can't reoort the car stolen?
OP's incident might be related to this question on the Stack Exchange network:
http://lifehacks.stackexchange... [stackexchange.com]
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OK, semi-competent (Score:5, Insightful)
As opposed to the rest of the stupidness.
Re:OK, semi-competent (Score:4, Informative)
Yeah, this was the first one that I had to look up, rather than recognizing outright as a plot to something with which I was at least vaguely familiar. Thankfully, the license plate turned up an immediate hit for a continuity error in the film (they messed up the plates in one scene), making it easy to figure out what it was describing [wikipedia.org].
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on it's own *maaaaaaaybe* but after the non-stop drivel of ridiculous stories, this is prime April Fools material.
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Completely agreed. Like I said, this was the first one that I didn't get the reference to. I never said that I didn't recognize it as an April Fool's Day gag, which is what you seem to have read from what I wrote. ;)
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For a /. April 1 post, this one is not bad.
As opposed to the rest of the stupidness.
As proof, there are some people who have already posted serious replies.
This is the first one that looked vaguely plausible, although anyone who didn't google the registration number before posting must feel a bit silly.
Plate has been changed. (Score:5, Funny)
It is now 127-GBH
check the chop shops and mexico (Score:2)
doubt anyone is driving the car. most likely it's been chopped up for parts or shipped to mexico and overseas to be sold on another continent
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No they ground up the composite panels to reclaim the cocaine it was pressed out of.
Repo Men (Score:2)
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That was somebody from Apple. They screwed up. They were going for your pancreas.
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I doubt it. The pancreas is not shiny at all.
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That was somebody from Apple. They screwed up. They were going for your pancreas.
They were probably holding him wrong. I hear that can cause problems.
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Funny that you mention "repo men" since the car in the summary, down to the license plate, is from the opening scene in Repo Man. Don't look in the trunk.
Are we done yet (Score:2)
Don't drop the soap (Score:2)
Don't drop the soap
Whatever you do.... (Score:1)
I got a hit. (Score:1)
I found it!!!
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m68xbxPMqJ1qi4nyc.png
Where? (Score:1)
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Looks like northern Arizona desert, route 66 west out of Flagstaff before you get to the Joshua Tree forest
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Like this
https://www.flickr.com/photos/... [flickr.com]
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I was thinking it was a few miles east of Portland Oregon. Maybe around Madras or south of that.
anybody got access to registration database? (Score:2)
The owner of this car would probably greatly appreciate being notified that not only did the stupid-douche consulting outfit not secure the car properly and had it stolen, they are now recklessly delaying notifying the police in a desperate attempt to avoid being found out.
It All depends (Score:2)
It is amazing how many children post here (Score:1)
That's all I have to say.
Yup. I can find it for you. (Score:3)
I find it's just quicker to hack the parking enforcement database than wait around for stupid government FOIA. After all, they don't ask permission to snoop around with all of our electronic communications. An email for an email, so to speak.
Anyway Op, looking around in the department's server I ran across some dash cam video you'll probably be interested in, and I have a screenshot of your stolen car here. [imgur.com]
All I need to proceed further is the VIN. Surely you have that, don't you?
Damn, I'm 133t.
Out of the Blue (Score:1)
Shrimp, Plate, or Plate of Shrimp or something. No Explanation.
You wanna know who told us where it was? (Score:2)
Your god-damned brother.
Too much to ask (Score:2)
I also have a hard time believing a request like this makes it to the /. frontpage. It is too much to ask. First, license plate data is protected. No organization in their right mind will give you access to it. Second, no-one has the ability to recognize car models, and pictures are not necessarily stored, and certainly not pictures that allow recognition of the car. LPR cameras focus on the license plate alone. The error rate is somewhere between 1% and 5% for that, but at least the data is highly specific
Nice try Otto... (Score:1)
The life of a Repo Man is always intense.... (Score:2)
Here's the car, Otto: http://kdk12.tumblr.com/post/2... [tumblr.com]
Car Theft? lol (Score:2)
Car theft?lol
Your car is broadcasting even as we speak (Score:2)
If it's a relatively modern car, than all 5 tires are broadcasting a unique ID every so often - read about TPMS [wikipedia.org]. If you had those IDs, you could set up a simple set of receivers based on SDR dongles to monitor for them. I bet that pretty soon the plate readers mounted on tow trucks, police vehicles, etc will be scanning those IDs as well.
License plate (Score:2)
laugh (Score:1)
so if you spot a tan Chevy Maibu with New Mexico plates (K88-283), there's probably some nice incentives in it for you.
LOL yes next time I'm in Mexico I'll keep an eye out.
Cars are chopped the same day most of the time, it was stolen because it's either a super popular model easy to sell, or has common parts and is now in 10 or 15 different vehicles.
Never Find it (Score:2)
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I don't think you'll ever find it. A Chevy Malibu was either stolen for a joy ride, which generally the car is found near immediately or after a few days
Found on what planet?