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BBC Taken Offline By 'Anti-IS' Group (bbc.co.uk) 150

New submitter shilly writes: The BBC is reporting that all its websites were taken offline on New Year's Eve for several hours, and the attack appears to be from a group calling itself New World Hacking. The group claims its raison d'être is to attack IS, but wanted to test out its capabilities first and chose the BBC as a target. A member of the group said, "We realize sometimes what we do is not always the right choice, but without cyber hackers... who is there to fight off online terrorists?"
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BBC Taken Offline By 'Anti-IS' Group

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  • by mindwhip ( 894744 ) on Saturday January 02, 2016 @10:47AM (#51226489)

    so just terrorists then?

    • by Crowd Computing ( 4269575 ) on Saturday January 02, 2016 @10:59AM (#51226549)
      I can't see how a non-government backed cyber-attack can work against a group with a distributed online presence. If you take down one site, wouldn't they just pop up another and use social media, or more old fashioned communications methods like email, to spread word about the new site. So are these New World hackers planning to also take down Facebook, Twitter, Sony or even the almighty Google?
      • by MrL0G1C ( 867445 )

        So are these New World hackers planning to also take down Facebook, Twitter, Sony or even the almighty Google?

        Let's hope so.

  • by Entrope ( 68843 ) on Saturday January 02, 2016 @10:49AM (#51226501) Homepage

    Or maybe it should be "without cyber terrorists... who is there to fight online hackers?"

    Did their mothers never tell them that two wrongs don't make a right? You need at least three lefts to make a right, or something.

    • by Luthair ( 847766 )
      It isn't like a ddos even affects online hackers. They aren't using their website as a their point of attack.
    • Or maybe it should be "without cyber terrorists... who is there to fight online hackers?"

      Did their mothers never tell them that two wrongs don't make a right? You need at least three lefts to make a right, or something.

      The correct quotation (from The Harvard Lampoon's Deterioata) is "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do."

  • by Jamu ( 852752 ) on Saturday January 02, 2016 @10:52AM (#51226505)
    On the plus side, the BBC won't cut your head off if they find you.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Jeremy Clarkson may argue that point with you.

      • by GNious ( 953874 )

        If you ever were to have someone decapitate you, Jeremy Clarkson might be your best option, given he is more likely to hit an innocent bystander than you.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Guy gets paid thousands of pounds to drive fast cars fast all day. Has a history of being a bigot and general arsehole. Eventually descends to physical violence and is finally, after multiple warnings and fourth and fifth chances.

        He only has himself to blame.

        On the plus side we now have an interesting experiment. Can the trio's star power make people pay Amazon £80 up front to watch them on their PC, or add another £30 for a Fire TV stick? I expect Amazon will heavily discount before

  • Are they the terrorist group previously known as ISIS?

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      ISIS, IS, Islamic State, and Daesh are all names for the same assholes. -PCP

      • The Caliphate (Score:3, Informative)

        by unixisc ( 2429386 )
        ISIS implies Islamic State in Iraq & Syria. ISIL expands it a bit to mean Iraq & the Levant, which would toss in Lebanon, Israel and the Pali authority as well. But now they claim to lead all Muslims worldwide, and you have Jihadi groups like Boko Haram, Abu Sayyaf, Islamic movement of Uzbekistan as well as splinter Jihadi groups in Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh all affiliated to ISIS. And of course, the armies of 1 or 2 popping up throughout the West, like in Paris and San Bernardi
      • they change the name everytime proof emerges that they were funded by the US UK oil families. Bushs windsors etc.

  • Attention seekers. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SuricouRaven ( 1897204 ) on Saturday January 02, 2016 @11:06AM (#51226581)

    If they wanted to 'test their capabilities' they could have just hit some obscure and unimportant site that no-one would even notice being down. Or they could have picked a target that would be a plausible target for Anonymous and let the world blame it on them - hit Sony again, perhaps, or some state-owned company in Russia. Attacking one of the world's most read and respected news organisations and the claiming credit for it publicly (Or, more likely, claiming the credit after someone else takes the BBC site down) just seems like a plea for attention.

    Does IS even have websites? I've been lead by various news reports to conclude that they have an extensive social media propaganda campaign, but it isn't run through their own websites. Just an ever-shifting set of youtube channels, facebook pages, twitter accounts and so forth.

    I'm guessing New World Hacking is following news of their exploits, which includes reading the comments here, so: Knock it off. You want to attack Islamic State? Go have a try at following their social media presence and report as many of their accounts as you can find to the service operators. You will probably have to learn a few additional languages though - Arabic does not do well on machine translation, and even in the areas IS operates Arabic isn't always the most commonly spoken of languages. That sounds like a better idea, with the added bonus of being legal so you can operate in the open and recruit a few more people - and you'll need them. Use those people to promote a countering narrative - spread word of their atrocities, and make fun of their idiotic proclamations. Religion is always week against mockery - once it loses respect it loses authority too.

    • Re: (Score:1, Interesting)

      The BBC is the one seeking attention, claiming they were attacked, when it turns out somebody pulled the plug by accident. Take down an "ISIS" site, who's gonna know without a big announcement from the attackers?

    • They should have just done like everyone else and taken down Sony/Playstation Network
  • Oh so just kids mucking about with scripts to get a DDOS going... move along nothing to see here...

    • by Luthair ( 847766 )
      Probably not even a true DDOS, rather an amplification attack using public servers.
      • Easily enough done. I've ended up part of one twice - once at home due to a misconfigured NTP server, and once at work after we upgraded a firewall and some of the rules were not copied over by the migration tool allowing us to be used for DNS amplification.

  • but without cyber hackers... who is there to fight off online terrorists?

    I understand the goal of these cyber hackers but they need to be very careful messing with the BBC...Jeremy Clarkson isnt up to much these days and i hear he's got a real mean right hook.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Just try it on the real target and if it works it works. Doing this really makes them lose any credibility.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Call it like it is. These scripts kiddies ain't no heroes.

    Unfortunately someone always makes a better idiot.

  • by wjcofkc ( 964165 ) on Saturday January 02, 2016 @12:47PM (#51226967)
    Their hearts *might* be in the right place, but not their packets. If they wanted some real practice they would do some serious old fashion investigative work and dig up any and every detail they can on the Linode attack and then give that information to the company so that they might mount a better defense strategy and perhaps help the law enforcement side of things. After all, these gray hats are running with the right circles, no...? Then again, their "practice attack" was something script kiddies could have likely pulled off. I'll bet this is all about ego. They are playing with fire.
  • Okay, so now the test has been successful, they can go ahead and take down... uh... what? isis.com? For a couple of hours?

  • It's just like that line the song by the Ramones "Mr Loboto" "BBC did a job on me"
  • to bring down.

    Healthcare.gov immediately comes to mind.

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