Canadian Startup Uses Trump to Lure Tech Workers (siliconbeat.com) 503
An anonymous reader writes: A Canadian startup "is using Republican front-runner Donald Trump in its latest campaign to recruit tech talent," reports Silicon Beat. The company's site claims that 31% of Americans they'd surveyed would consider moving to Canada if Trump were elected President. "Now, while we don't think Americans will actually move en masse to Canada if the election doesn't go their way, we do want to extend an offer. Because it's the polite, Canadian thing to do." The Washington Post reported a surge in Google searches in March for "how can I move to Canada," actually slowing down the Canadian government's immigration web site.
Meanwhile, a coalition of Canadian mayors is visiting California this week to promote Canada's booming technology sector. Toronto's mayor told Bloomberg, "The embracing of diversity as opposed to it being some sort of political issue is a huge advantage we have."
Still too close to the US (Score:4, Interesting)
New Zealand might be a better idea... or some other place in a different hemisphere
Not far enough (Score:3)
New Zealand might be a better idea... or some other place in a different hemisphere
That won't help, because like... the atmospheres of the two hemispheres are connected.
You need to go someplace where that Trump can't affect you.
I don't think that's possible. I mean, the sea will be poisoned, the air will burn, famine and pestilence will be everywhere [catholic-resources.org]... it'll just be a mess.
You might try that apocalypse condo in Kansas [oddee.com], and see if you can wait things out.
This assumes, of course, that Earth systems can recover [wikipedia.org] and there will be a future time when you can walk outdoors alone and unaided. Th
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Well, if you feel that strongly about it, I would say that there should be plenty of options available to you.
First and foremost, space is cheaper than it's ever been. You should be able to build a space ship and get yourself at least into LEO for cheaper than ever. Just get enough supplies to last you six months, and you'll make it to Mars. Mars may be a desolated wasteland, but... at least Donald Trump isn't there. And that's really what you care about, right?
You may want to think about Mars anyway, becau
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I'm not entirely sure that you can take off with just 6 months of food, get to Mars, and live there in perpetuity. We might, of course, just want to go and spend a short time there. We've visited a moon. That's it. We've only been on one planet.
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Yeah sorry, we are changing the rules to keep you all out.
Damn. And here I was hoping I could H1B into Canada.
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At this rate, they should have sufficient material by inauguration day to commence constructing the Great Wall of Canada.
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Having lived in the US (and still visiting there 2 to 3 times a year)
Good god, you're dumb. Are you unable to recognize tenses? GP clearly stated that he used to live in the US, which means he no longer lives there.
Re: Still too close to the US (Score:3)
Of course it is. Radical Islamists love our drinking culture and same sex marriage law.
Bit of a gamble (Score:5, Funny)
Honestly, the hysteria from these anti-Trump people is hilarious. They're one chalk scribbled MAGA away from having a nervous breakdown.
Easy to take the tech workers (Score:5, Insightful)
Sure, it's easy to say they would take the tech workers. But would Canada gladly take the 10 million illegal immigrants who may not be as skilled? Those are the ones who really want to flee Trump.
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Sure, it's easy to say they would take the tech workers. But would Canada gladly take the 10 million illegal immigrants who may not be as skilled? Those are the ones who really want to flee Trump.
I'm not sure how we'd react to the illegal immigrants, but we are inviting 25,000 Syrian refugees [cic.gc.ca]. Considering that Canada has a population of 35 million and you have ~320 million it's equivalent to you taking in about 225,000.
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The thing is, we were having this problem in the past. We required certain countries who's nationals represent a significant portion of those 10 million illegal immigrants to get a visa before they can enter the country.
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We don't tend to punish people for being hard working members of our communities up here ... and you shouldn't either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Where Is Bob & Doug McKenzie (Score:3)
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This is new? (Score:4, Insightful)
As has been said every 4 years for the last few decades.
Moving back from Canada (Score:2)
Won't happen (Score:2)
Trump's an idiot, but people don't up and move countries unless there's a serious economic reason to do so, or their safety or lives are at risk. And I don't think that'll happen with Trump... at least not for the first four years.
The Trump ad is a publicity stunt, not anything serious.
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So first, I see the top rate of capital gains tax being only 54%, and that's only on incomes above 10 million dollars.
If you want to retire before you are 110 years old, you need...about as much money as before. The income difference is nominal -- a 2.2% increase before you hit $250k / year. You can retire on much less than $250k / year in constant 2016 dollars. You don't need 10 million dollars per year to retire before 110 years old. Capital gains are likely only a portion of your income.
(besides whic
Trump will just take over Canada and Mexico. (Score:2)
Trump will just take over Canada and Mexico.
Now do you want to be on the mexcien front? NK?
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Why not? (Score:3)
Vote Trump - for the Atlantic City Casino Boss who cares. Yeah right.
Don't do it (Score:2, Interesting)
The net result is double taxation. Canada taxes you becau
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Can anyone actually move to Canada? (Score:2)
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In the 1980s, Canada was desperate for Hong Kong Chinese and their money because Canada's welfare state was going bankrupt.
Sounds good to me (Score:2)
The more American assholes move to Canada, the better off America will be. Maybe Obama will move to Canada also. One can dream, right?
Just go vote! (Score:3)
just go vote to make sure he doesn't get elected, how difficult can it be?
AH, Canadians (Score:3)
I love when my Canadian friends talk about how accepting and multicultural they are, being isolated so far north from significant land immigration traffic.
I always offer that we can place buses at the US/Mexico border with a sign saying "free trip to Canada", and drop off anyone who wishes to ride on the Canadian side of the border.
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Really?
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I'm part black, I can say this, right?
Dude, just because they're eating bagged lunches don't mean it's really a picnic. They only reason they were in the park was to pick up the trash. I'm really positive that shackles are no picnic.
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I wish the survey was more specifically polling tech workers, since most tech workers that I've talked to could care less which moron gets elected president. Sure we debate it, but it's insignificant compared to tech news. The beauty of working in tech is that we do more to affect positive change more than any politician could ever hope to, so it's harder to get disillusioned.
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*stiffles a guffaw*
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This is true and also a concern - it's one of the reasons I opened the thread - I'm off to bed soon. But, yes...
Or, rather, no... No, I don't think that this poll is accurate. Trump actually has a number of proponents in the IT industry. They're in that camp for varied reasons but they exist and I'm pretty sure that the numbers are higher than this poll would have you believe. I'm also a bit squirrelly about the number that they have come up with.
In this thread, we'll find more than 14 people who SUPPORT Trump, never mind being willing to move to Canada. I'm too lazy to look but I bet this survey was written to get one type of response, to be manipulated, or to get partial results.
"How likely are you to be willing to emigrate to Canada if Trump is elected president:
0 --- 1 --- 2 --- 3 --- 4 --- 5
With zero meaning that there's no possible way they're going to move to Canada to 5 being very likely to seek a visa.
Now, anybody who answered a number greater than zero is counted in this poll and that's where they got the 84% from - I suspect. It's standard practice. It's also a trick question - few people want to answer in a negative fashion. People are gullible and swallow it all the time. They may also take results from one question and add them in with the first - again being careful about verbiage.
If you give me a few days and a bunch of resources, I could poll the average American and come back with "Stalin was a great man - according to 87% of people in the garments industry."
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Let's consider then (Score:4, Insightful)
Trump says he will build a wall on our southern border and enforce our immigration laws.
Trump says he will enforce the H1B program in the way it was intended instead of allowing foreign workers to take American jobs.
Trump says he will halt immigration of Islamists until we can be sure they are not radicalized.
Trump says he will allow health insurance companies to compete across state lines and take other measures to make health care affordable.
Trump says he will renegotiate trade pacts that do not favor the United States.
Trump says he will reform the VA and ensure our vets get the care they were promised.
Maybe you can actually post some more things he said about what he is going to do. Those seem to be the main things that I've heard. Not sure what is so scary about any of that.
This election for me is about the rule of law. Either we are a country where everyone is equal under the law and laws have to be obeyed, or we are not. It's as simple as that. All the talk about Trump being a fascist is way off base. Trump doesn't have a fascist organization behind him. He's got no brown shirts or brigades, it's just the democratic process and some people reckoning that at least he might do some of things he has promised.
If nothing else, a Trump presidency would shake up the Washington first virus that has infected both parties.
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Trump says a lot of shit he can't do, doesn't have any experience doing, and can't back up with any even remotely concrete details. Trump says he will make you richer! Trump says he will fix all the roads! Trump says he will ban shitty music from the radio! It's pure unfettered populism.
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Trump says he will build a wall on our southern border and enforce our immigration laws.
The problem is that a wall would be insanely expensive, and ineffective. He should have checked this before announcing it as policy. Prosecuting companies who hire illegal immigrants would be more sane.
Trump says he will halt immigration of Islamists until we can be sure they are not radicalized.
He actually said he would stop all Muslims entering the country. Of course he would not and could not actually do it, it just the sort of stupid thing he says.
Trump says he will renegotiate trade pacts that do not favor the United States.
We pray he does not alter it further.
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Actually, he was asked if people should be punished for doing an illegal thing. After that the media just ran with it. It was a well executed journalistic sucker punch.
No. This completely misses the point. Even the far-right has been in favor of making it illegal for doctors to perform abortions and for any punishment to occur to doctors, not to the women.
It doesn't show that Trump is evil, just that he can't handle the media as if he were a politician.
Um, no one used the word "evil" here but you. But no, if anything he handles the media far better than most politicians. See e.g. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-donald-trump-hacked-the-media/ [fivethirtyeight.com].
Trump's real crime is that he's no good at handling hostile reporters trying to harvest a juicy sound bite.
No. It is that Trump is an ignoramus who doesn't bother learning about issues, talks off the cuff with extreme ideas and
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I'm not so sure about that. Party politics is still essential - after all, he may run for a second term if he wins his first.
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Let's start with the easy stuff. Okay?
There's a difference from doing bad stuff while belonging to that group and doing bad stuff *for* their religion.
If you can get past that, you might see he's trying to make some sense. This post should not be misconstrued to mean that I like the guy or will vote for him.
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I guess, if you're a spineless twat who thinks anyone to the right of lenin is some kind of fascist.
Its not about left vs right. Trump is one of the more ideologically moderate Republican candidates, despite his sudden conversion to anti-abortion and anti-gun-control views.
Its just that he says any crazy thing that comes into his head, and we are really worried about the damage he might do.
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He can't do any worse then idiot we have in office atm.
What office would he then go idiot in? Would he make the Mexicans build him one?
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He can't do any worse then idiot we have in office atm.
Irony?
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Yes! Let's turn the US military into a global protection racket! Who cares about global security and preserving the Long Peace when we could be wetting our beaks!
I can hear it now, in a particularly obnoxious Brooklyn accent: "You gotta real nice country here, South Korea, it'd be a shame if something happened to it."
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Good thing too - because we're REALLY bad at it. Since out disastrous response to 9/11 the US is often rated as the greatest destabilizing force on the planet.
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No one said that global security is the job of the US military, but it absolutely has a profound effect. This isn't limited to aggressive military action either, it includes things like aid and disaster relief.
When something happens that has a potentially global impact, we are expected to respond, we are expected to be involved. Every fight is our fight. I'm not saying it's the way it should be, but I am saying it's the way it is.
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How very Grecian an idea... Are we going to use the money they give us to make statues of gods or are we going to build a navy with the money?
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I don't think the idiot in office right now thinks it'd be a nice idea for South Korea and Japan to have the bomb, or any of dozens of other insane thoughts.
An arms race in NE Asia will have negative repercussions for Canadians as much as Americans. Canada would like suffer more from American protectionism than America itself. I don't think you can run away from Trump's problems by moving to Canada.
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Re:Consider (Score:4, Informative)
I really don't think Trump will be as bad as people seem to think. That's not a terribly high barrier to cross, however. I don't think he's quite the monster that everyone wants to claim he is.
No, I'm not voting for Trump. I just don't think he's Hitler.
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If Trump actually gets elected (unikely),
Canada is going to need a Wall.
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To be fair the talk of moving is usually based on what the politician claims he/she is going to do once he/she gets elected.
Since it turns out politicians pretty much never does what they promised there is no actual need to move.
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It's almost aways nothing but pure talk. Talk is cheap.
Otis Redding said it best, "Actions speak louder than words..."
It's the same thing we see every time Microsoft releases a new OS, a bunch of people storm around saying they're going to run Linux. The traffic stats revet to normal in about a month. Nah, people will tolerate a whole lot to be where they're acclimated. Many that live in things like war zones could have escaped and sought refuge. However, they stick it out because it is their home.
Either wa
Re: Nothing of value would be lost. (Score:2)
Says the anonymous *coward*.
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Re:Nothing of value would be lost. (Score:5, Insightful)
The loss of backbone was a purely American thing. You bailed out the banks because you got scared, and now Wall Street is crazier than ever. Iceland didn't blink.
Ditto with your reps voting to invade Iraq. No backbone - they were scared and would do anything rather than think.
These policies didn't inflict pain on a small number of people for the greater good - quite the opposite.
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The other half of this is, why do those people think we - Canada - want them? They sound like they'll throw a fit every time things don't go their way and then what? Are they going to move somewhere else?
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What makes you think we want California? The people running that crap-show are more looney than an NDP government, and that's saying something!
Be afraid (Score:3)
Trump is unpopular and will probably lose delegates on subsequent votes rather than gain them. Trump is unlikely to be the Republican nominee.
If Trump has the vast majority of support from primary voters, and doesn't get the nomination due to skulduggery, there will be rioting in the streets.
You say he's unpopular, but only to the 1%ers.
A very large, very scary crowd of people want to see him run.
Be afraid of changing the rules, or of having the appearance of a non-voting process.
Be very afraid.
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Trump doesn't have that level of support. He's received roughly 42% of the vote on the Republican side to date.
If you think all the primary votes that Trump has received are from Republicans, you haven't been paying attention. [fiscalnote.com]
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Re:Feel free to move to Quebec (Score:4, Interesting)
If you think that's going to happen, you're dreaming. There are very few english quebecers who don't also speak french - and the ones who don't are mostly racist assholes.
And most of the french also speak english.
So c'est quoi ton calice de probleme, tabernac?
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So c'est quoi ton calice de probleme, tabernac?
Il s'appele Jean Saisrein. :-P
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Not to mention we here in Canada have a relatively functional political system and we lack batshit crazy evangelical Christian politicians who foam at the mouth every time they hear the words "same-sex marriage". That's worth the price of admission.
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There's a few batshit crazy evangelical Christian politicians hiding in the Conservative Party, just that Harper did a very good job of keeping them silent. During the election the local Conservative candidates were not allowed to talk to the voters, just Harper's message of low taxes and a government that will keep you safe no matter how much it had to violate your privacy.
Re: Salary Discrepancy (Score:4, Interesting)
If you think Trudeau is a batshit insane leftist politician, well... we have very different ideas of what "insane leftist" means, then.
Legalizing marijuana makes perfect sense if your goal is to reduce harm. If your goal is to fill your jail cells and waste police resources, then sure... keep it illiegal.
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You're lost deep inside a social bubble if you truly think that "the overwhelming majority of the tech community" is behind Trump.
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Considering the number of people that I know in tech that are behind him, especially the number who are now for him because he's wanting to gut H1B's...you'd be surprised. How many of your friends have had their jobs outsourced inside the US by imported foreign workers.
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See, this is the problem with people on the authoritarian Left. At no point did I ever say that you were defective for having a view I disagree with. And yet, you refuse to offer me the same courtesy. You assume that your view is the absolute correct one, and that anyone who disagrees with you is either defective mentally, evil, or some other arbitrary defective thing you can think of. It's straight out of the handbook, which, incidentally, I've read. But it isn't have you have an honest conversation, frie
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See, this is the problem with people on the authoritarian Left. At no point did I ever say that you were defective for having a view I disagree with.
At no point did he say or imply that you said or implied that. What he said was that you are in a bubble if you believe the overwhelming majority of the tech community is behind Trump. And I will absolutely join him in challenging your assertion. Most techies -- like most people generally -- are not behind Trump. Forgetting personality issues for a moment, that's no surprise just because there are 4 realistic candidates (I know most people think it's Trump vs. Clinton, but Cruz and Sanders aren't comple
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"someone with a billionaire’s mindset"
Trump is actually a really shitty business man who happened to get lucky with one of his ventures. You already knew that. But John Oliver summarizes it nicely. [youtube.com].
Re:Let 'em go. (Score:5, Insightful)
If Donald Trump had taken the million dollars he was give by his father and just invested it in a S&P index fund, he'd be worth $10,000,000,000 more than he is right now. Yes, when you're business has underperformed the stock market over a 30 year period by that much, you are a shitty business man.
http://www.moneytalksnews.com/... [moneytalksnews.com]
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Re: Let 'em go (Score:2, Insightful)
Billionaire's mindset? Draft Bloomberg or Buffet.
With Trump what you get is an entitled misogynist brat mindset. His entire political process is to listen to angry people and then sell them a fantasist's parody solution to their fears; a wall to keep out the invaders, locking down the internet, torture as retribution..l
Trump wants America to be his trophy wife. He's going to make you so happy, baby. It's going to be beautiful. You're going to be so rich. Everyone will fear us. It's just you and him against
Re:Let 'em go. (Score:4, Insightful)
You're not going to get very many good workers that don't like Trump.
It's been my observation that those who work hardest, and have the most skill either don't care about politics at all, or they like Trump.
I disagree strongly, in fact from what I've seen the most fervent supporters of Trump are the people who haven't had the professional success they expect and are looking for somewhere to put the blame.
Also, he has a softer stance on intellectual property restrictions than Obama (or any democrat for that matter) does, which is important to both open source and freedom of speech. He did come out on the wrong side of the encryption debate, but in his defence... it's a complicated topic.
Trump is pushing some kind of authoritarian nationalism, he's repeatedly talked about changing liable laws so he could sue people who criticize him and threatening the media. He'd be a disaster for free speech.
He's also called for less fraud, waste, and abuse in government, which means more and better software for the plebs like us that write the stuff. And that means more work.
He built his career off of crony capitalism, why do you suddenly expect him to clean up the system that kept him rich?
The wall he's proposing is also employment positive for programmers, nerds, and IT, as is Keystone XL, which he's in favor of.
Ehhhh, that's some very dubious reasoning. You claim any big project is a boon for programmers through secondary benefits, yet when it comes to cheap labour coming in and injecting extra wealth into the economy it's suddenly a disaster.
I understand the populist Left, but they have yet to propose anything that benefits me as a common programmer and knowledge worker personally. Trump has proposed a dozen unrelated things that do. And I think the overwhelming majority of the tech community is smart enough to see that.
With the industry the way it exists today, my honest feeling is that less domestic competition from people who would rather go to Canada, than stick it out is a good thing.
For someone criticizing the populist left you have a remarkably populist anti-capitalist understanding of economics.
The standard understanding is that more workers, more competition, means more wealth in general. There can be some specific losers when you open markets, in this case it might be American programmers. But for the US as a whole it's a benefit.
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You're not going to get very many good workers that don't like Trump.
It's been my observation that those who work hardest, and have the most skill either don't care about politics at all, or they like Trump
I disagree strongly, in fact from what I've seen the most fervent supporters of Trump are the people who haven't had the professional success they expect and are looking for somewhere to put the blame
Normally I do not like to disclose whom I support, except this time
I am for Donald J. Trump
Many of the successful old timers, the compatriots in the tech fields, are supporting Trump as well
You've got nothin' in comparing to us, kid - neither in professional sense, nor the experience we've gotten, nor the wealth we've accumulate
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He's also called for less fraud, waste, and abuse in government,
You believe that? I mean sure it's a lovely platitude because who isn't against fraud, waste and abuse? The thing is though it's an incredibly difficult, nuanced problem to deal with and without actually a real, firm, detailed plan on how to begin tackling it, such a platitude is not worth the air it's exhaled in.
The government it large, very large. This is inevitable and also not fixable because the country is large. Sure it can grow and shrink, but it is always going to be big. Big organisations have waste, or at least the appearance of waste. Anyone who's dealt with a large company, especially as a small contractor where you get the unpolished view into the guts of legal and purchasing, not the carefully curated customer service view will know that.
They are wildly, horrifyingly, insanely inefficient. Anyone who thinks otherwise has frankly had little to to with large companies, and anyone who thinks the governent should be better than that might as well wish for unicorns.
The thing is waste is not just present and inevitable, it's necessary, because redundancy is by definition waste. Small companies can be frighteningly efficient, no doubt. The thing is, that's indicidual ones, not en masse. En masse, small companies aren't efficient because small companies also go out of business ALL the time. The redundancy is having many of them, but if you look at one, you'll miss that. The reason individual one can be efficient is they lack redundancy and so there is no slack. If something bad happens, then they fail.
Big companies and even more so the government simply cannot afford that.
You *cannot* have key employees, because they will die. The governemnt is older than any human. Notonly that, you know those horrifyingly rare 1 in a million cancers? Well, that happens to someone in government on average several times per year. People do get run over by busses, die in freak accidents, never mind get old, retire, change jobs, move all the time when you're a large organisation.
If you have no waste (redundancy) then the organisation will collapse after a 4 hours when the first person cops it.
Secondly, a small company, or a small tech department in a big company can affor to hire the bst 0.1%. However 0.1% of the entire US population is less than the size of the governement and many large companies. They cannot hire only the best of the best because frankly those people don't exist.
And then there's the coupling or anticoupling of fraud and waste. Time was Joe Civil Servant could give the contract to his nephew with no oversight and make a nice little packet on the side. Naturally everyone thought this was a bad idea. The huge, insane bidding processes that exclude small efficient companies are set up precisely because of those problems. What is not clear is how you can allow in small companies which can't do rigorous auditing (because they don't have a full timeaccountant let alone department and besiade that is expensive and therefore wasteful) and can't go through massive hoops to "provably" prevent fraud, while being able to get contracts. In other words how can you remove the burdensome oversight without removing the oversight?
That's a tiny set of why platitudes of "reducing waste etc" are mindlessly stupid without somethig to back them up. Any fool can claim waste is bad (no shit!), but said fool can't actually do anything about it.
And no, just slashing budgets does not work, because all the same mechanisms are still in place.
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It's been my observation that those who work hardest, and have the most skill either don't care about politics at all, or they like Trump.
When I'm around selfish Trump supporters, I clam up because it's not the kind of conversation I'd have with work colleagues. (at least I would in Europe, just not here in the US). I wonder if that's why you've encountered colleagues who seem to "not care about politics"? Actually, I'm also pretty much silent when with anyone from the intolerant extremes, left or right, because the likelihood of fruitful discussion is so low and the likelihood of vexation is so high.
I understand the populist Left, but they have yet to propose anything that benefits me as a common programmer and knowledge worker personally.
You know what -- who cares about you? I'm
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Yes, coming down to California to try and recruit for cold weather is tricky. They may get more luck in Minnesota.
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Instead, advertise that water just falls out of the sky in Canada, year round. Which physical state that water is in may vary.
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Just to point it out, Waterloo, Ontario is farther south then Seattle (43deg N vs 47 degN).
The boarder does a weird jag down in Ontario, typically it sits on 49N.
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I have it on good authority that it'll be warming up.
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its snowing in June in Canada who would move there ..
Someone who owns a snowboard.
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Probably not, but I think there's a more sinister reason for all this. See, if I were going to do something like this with my company, it would be for the pure and simple reason of starting flame wars on Slashdot. And, you have to assume that any tech entrepreneur is at least as evil as I am.
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No, Mexico is going to build the Trump Wall. Remember?
I know Fox said "fuck no," but Trump still is saying "yes." That's still his answer to where the money will come from.
I assume it means he intends to invade Mexico first, and set up some sort of strong-arm dictator who doesn't let anybody leave.
As for the catapult, first one lands on a military base and they'll be anti-aircraft cannons on the border.
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We don't want them!
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*shrugs* Most of my immediate neighbourhood is made up of prodominantly Iranians. Surrounding that, there's a significant mix of other races (Indians, Whites, Chinese, etc..) I'm sure that would piss off some, but honestly I could care less. Racial politics are for people oppressed or insecure.
Hello from Canada, all welcome.