Microsoft Trials Outlook Premium For $4 Per Month, With No Ads and Custom Domains (pcworld.com) 108
An anonymous reader quotes a report from PCWorld: Microsoft is testing a premium version of Outlook.com that removes the ads and supports custom domains for email addresses. According to Brad Sams at Thurrott.com, Outlook Premium is free for one year and then costs $3.99 per month during the trial phase, though it's only available by invite for now. The service appears to combine two features that Microsoft offers or has offered in the past. The first is an ad-free version of Outlook, which is already available today as a $20 per year upgrade. The second is custom domains, which allow users to enjoy Outlook.com's features but with a personalized email address.
Outlook Premium could also slightly undercut Google's Apps for Work plans, which support custom domains for $5 per user per month. It also offers a middle ground between ad-free Outlook and a full Office 365 subscription. While Outlook Premium may be tempting for a select few, general users may be hard-pressed to pay anything for Outlook, let alone $4 per month.
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Fuck subscriptions
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You're forgetting the option of using Free Software. No subscriptions, no spyware, I couldn't got back to using software which I have no control.
They really expect people to pay for that? (Score:4, Funny)
No, Thank You (Score:2, Interesting)
Fastmail is a far better option. Fastmail is run by guys who truly know what they are doing. I've been a satisfied user for over 10 years. Yes, it costs money. Yes, it's completely worth the small amount you pay to have the best paid email on the planet. You can use their domains or use one of your own with the right plan. I'm not affiliated with Fastmail, just an extremely happy customer.
Fastmail [fastmail.com]
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Yandex, yes those guys, does this sort of thing for free. I've got my email setup with their mx records and it works out well.
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Irony of Microsoft (Score:1)
I love how Microsoft started by giving Office applications away for free, regardless of whether or not you wanted them on your PC back in the 90's. And now you have to pay for it.
Re:Irony of Microsoft (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Irony of Microsoft (Score:4, Informative)
It doesnt require an email address at outlook.com at all - my Windows 10 account uses an MS Account that has a Gmail address.
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Creating a new account on Windows 10 REQUIRES an e-mail address at Outlook.com
Utter nonsense. You can create a local account on Windows 10 that is NOT tied to an email address or Microsoft account. Admittedly, it's not easy to find, but it it available during the initial user setup.
Re:Irony of Microsoft (Score:5, Informative)
Creating a new account on Windows 10 REQUIRES an e-mail address at Outlook.com
Actually you can still add a local user account [microsoft.com] during or after setup.
See also this [networkworld.com] and this [howtogeek.com].
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Actually you can still add a local user account [microsoft.com] during or after setup.
Forget local accounts. You can add a Microsoft account that has nothing to do with outlook.com at all, just click the "I already have an email address" button when prompted. It's actually quite funny but I can log into outlook.com with an email that ends in @gmail.com, just to really mess with the system. :-)
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Creating a new account on Windows 10 REQUIRES an e-mail address at Outlook.com
So is this part of Microsoft's devious plan to squeeze all Win10 users for $4/month?
No it doesn't just because you don't know that you can use a local account please don't go spreading misinformation. It makes you look uninformed.
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My windows 10 account isn't linked to any email address. It's entirely local.
Perhaps you're a little retarded and can't follow the on-screen instructions when adding users?
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You must mean the instructions that offer *only* an email address to be entered so that MS keeps my machine tethered? How is that a "local" account?
What if my machine has no internet connection? I can't use Windows 10 then??
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My machine had no internet connection when I first set it up. Worked fine.
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You can set up an account that has no email associated with it. I know because I am using one now. Granted using an M$ OS is not a popular idea here at Slashdot, but I can't help but tinker with new stuff. After I took control of the update process, and set up IE11 instead of Edge which is a REAL POS, I can't say I am that unhappy with it overall. It boots fast, sleeps, and hibernates without errors on a relatively old Dell studio laptop. I also have a MacBook, several desktops running various flavors of OS
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You must mean the instructions that offer *only* an email address to be entered so that MS keeps my machine tethered? How is that a "local" account?
Here are your instructions. From the User Accounts control panel, choose Manage Other Accounts, then Add a user-account, then Sign in without a Microsoft account (not recommended), and confirm this with the Local Account button. Now type in the name and password; no email required.
That wasn't too hard, was it? I take it you don't have the OS installed to test it. The only difference between Windows 10 and Windows 8 is that Win8 doesn't have the hyphen on the Add a user account link and it doesn't have the (
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Creating a new account on Windows 10 REQUIRES an e-mail address at Outlook.com
No it doesn't. You can use any email address. Lots of folks use gmail addresses.
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Sorry Frank, that's just not true.
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Not to stand up for Microsoft, but I don't remember Office ever being free. Maybe some of the old DOS versions of Word/Excel, etc? But I do remember paying for a copy of Office '97 on CD-ROM(!)
I know a lot of the cheap clones like Packard Bell, et. al. would come with a copy of "Microsoft Works" (chuckle), which were incompatible file-format wise from Office.
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I may have been misinformed, but they did make the suite excessively cheap and had lawsuits for monopolization for a while because of it.
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I may have been misinformed, but they did make the suite excessively cheap and had lawsuits for monopolization for a while because of it.
You need to support that claim. Office was always excessively expensive. It was, and remains, one of their cash cows
Re:Irony of Microsoft (Score:4, Informative)
You must be young. In the 90s, Office was very expensive, but new computers often had "free" copies of Word bundled with or preinstalled on the computer. Microsoft kept this up until they got most of Word Perfect's market share. Then they started bundling Microsoft Works, making Works less compatible with Word, and charging for Word and Office. After they had the entire word processing market they stopped bundling any office-type software with their computers and made you buy it.
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It was expensive, but Lotus and quadro were more expensive than Excel.
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No, they never had free copies of word bundled, they did have "Microsoft Works", which at best could be described as Words bastard red headed step child. I think now it's called Wordpad and is still shipped with windows for free. But Word, it is not. I've seen trial versions of Office, but that's the closest to free I've ever seen.
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The only thing that sounds similar to this is Windows machines (XP included) coming with WordPad which is a very cut down word processor which can read MS Word files, but can't write to them. It's a basic word processor and was of no competition to any other word processor on the market at any point in time.
Re: Irony of Microsoft (Score:2)
Microsoft Works which included Word was bundled with machines for many years. I got it with a PC I bought in 2004.
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Actually, if you had to download Outlook Express, which was the free email program at that time, a free copy of Word came along for the ride because it was actually the editor (in the background) for the purpose of writing / composing emails ...
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https://www.utdallas.edu/~lieb... [utdallas.edu]
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The Novell lawsuit was dismissed as it was complete crap. As far as free suites from MS you might be remembering Works, a stripped down productivity suite that could open some MS Office document formats, that was as cheap as $2 to OEM's and so was often included in the purchase price.
Ads? (Score:5, Informative)
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Even funnier is if you go to outlook.com with an adblocker. The sidebar where the ad appears is still there, but with a message that reads something to the effect of "So you run an adblocker. If you upgrade to ad free, you won't have to put up with this box on the side either."
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Yes, and if you run an intelligent ad blocker you can just block the element with the message =)
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I'd Pay (Score:2)
If they serve me no ads and didn't use the emails to build a psychological advertising profile to sell to to marketers and the TLAs.
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"Outlook.com does not scan your emails to offer up contextual ads"
Bollocks
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It's smokescream - he smokes cream.
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Yeah, Anonymous Coward is a much more trustworthy source.
Free webmail is now a commodity (Score:5, Interesting)
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I'm less impressed that they called you back and more impressed that they managed to retain an employee for two consecutive days.
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You say it like it's a good thing, isn't one of the primary complaints around here that the "younger, more tech-savvy Facebook generation" have absolutely oblivious or have no qualms about being tracked, analyzed and marketed to as long as the product or service is "free"? Including various variations where they're planning to get you hooked and squeeze money from you later, whether the initial product is free - "freemium" - or paid with DLC. Most people here seem to be extremely fed up with ads and being n
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or have no qualms about being tracked, analyzed and marketed to as long as the product or service is "free"?
Something for something. I have no problem having my location tracked on my Android phone. In return I get excellent traffic services which are a real benefit to me which would be almost prohibitively expensive to reply otherwise.
Windows 10's tracking on the other hand can fuck right off. Windows 10 Insider tracking on the other hand is quite acceptable since you potentially see a real benefit in sharing your data with the company developing a product.
People don't have qualms as long as it's seen as a suita
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the younger, more tech-savvy Facebook generation isn't going to buy into their rent-seeking model -- they'll just find another "free" option and use that until it's gone or crapified to the point of being useless
Isn't that the same generation that buys virtual dolls and turnips to improve their score in Farmville?
If they are competing with Google Apps (Score:1)
Then it should be free for custom domains for users who Google Apps is giving that to for free because we were there when we made it... get it?
That's the trouble with all this kid-robbing, basically you never award the right people unless they do wrong with anything that the doing-wrong people have (boatloads of cash).
They already had free domain email (Score:2)
with live mail I believe it was. It was same as Gmail. I used it for a few years but then went back to pop/webhosting.
This is exactly what I was waiting for (Score:3)
I have had the $5/mo google apps for a long time and am in the process of moving my stuff over to MS. I use MS Office online way more than google docs so it makes sense for me. Plus I think that outlook.com is a cleaner interface than Gmail.
I am currently doing an old fashioned forward to my Outlook.com mailbox from gmail.
Only problem is, in order to use my custom domains on MS, I need to use an O365 business plan which would come with OneDrive for Business (Groove) and Skype for Business (Lync) instead of the home user versions.
I don't want to use the business editions for that reason.
Or I could just keep using Thunderbird (Score:4, Insightful)
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"Perhaps you missed the big news about Thunderbird this past December: " ... and your point is what exactly? Its still working and development is ongoing. I don't really care who develops it provided its looked after. There is also Evolution, Kmail and rather a lot more open source email clients available. All good solid stuff.
Me I use Evo because I can get at the corp Exchange *sigh*
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It works fine. Email is a fairly mature technology at this point. Even bloated software like Outlook runs fast enough on modern PCs. If you like a desktop client but still want the benefits of "email anywhere", IMAP + Gmail is hard to beat.
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"Even bloated software like Outlook runs fast enough on modern PCs"
Until it goes a bit odd occasionally and locks up. To be fair I think add ons contribute to this feature.
Outlook has ads? (Score:2)
Or are they saying it WILL have ads? I've never seen any.
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Or are they saying it WILL have ads? I've never seen any.
Summary is misleading. Outlook does not have ads, and never had. outlook.com does have ads in the free version. outlook.com is a hosted email solution. You can use it through the web interface or any other email reader - including Outlook (the application).
After the way Microsof treated Windows 7 users... (Score:4, Insightful)
Good deal! (Score:1)
Spam (Score:4, Informative)
Using Outlook.com for email is a bad idea. So much legitimate email is never delivered, and you won't know what you're missing. It doesn't go to spam or junk or anything. They just delete email and don't warn you. You might as well set your primary MX record to 127.0.0.1 because email with outlook is about that useful.
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Very true. If you are serious about your email then register a "vanity" domain and get it hosted.
Obviously the denizens around here would then fire up a pair of DNS servers at two different locations, a SMTP daemon, IMAP or POP or whatever daemon, sort out auth, SSL/TLS, AV/anti spam, SPF, DKIM, DMARC, backups, DR plan etc etc. Well I did.
Oh and it supports Outlook (spent quite some time with Wireshark to get the auto discover thing working - cheers MS, no need to follow RFCs or say Mozilla's method)
custom domains (Score:2)
For a year or so after launch outlook.com allowed the user to use a custom domain - and that was the problem.
"domain" singular.
If you used more than one domain and you wanted me@domainone.com and me@domaintwo.net and me@domainthree.org all pointing at the same mailbox, you needed three MS Live accounts each set up differently and a bunch of forwarding rules to get email all to one place, it was hideously primitive. Compared with Google Apps's domain alias system it just sucked.
Let Me Count The Copies Of Office I Have Bought (Score:2)
Or get mailbox.org for â1/mth with GPG suppor (Score:3)
They've been running email servers since 1989, they write books about running email systems, they teach admins how to do email, they sponsor and take part in Linux events and the boss himself answers questions on Reddit. The system even shows you whether your recipient's mail server is able to receive your message via encrypted channels, right in the recipient box.
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The symbol in the comment subject is supposed to be a Euro symbol (€), it looks like UTF-8 is broken when commenting via mobile browser.
Cool. (Score:2)
With some of the cutbacks and revisions over at Google, with their personalized service over the last few years, I'm a long time apps user who might be open to a subscription based outlook.com service. It's a good idea, and we need more free market competition. Google, at least up until this point has remained generally unrivaled in this space for too long, and it's been suffering from many of the main factors that made Microsoft a huge pain in the ass for so long. This is good news for everybody. At least,
Haha, it never struck me.... (Score:1)
This whole time in windows 10 i've been using the equivalent of express mail....no wonder why I thought it sucked.