Will Brexit Hurt International Cyber-Security? (helpnetsecurity.com) 197
The Brexit shock continues to reverberate throughout the global economic and policy worlds. Andrea Limbago from the security company Endgame responds to a poll showing that most security professionals have concerns about Brexit:
Will it weaken cybersecurity because of additional bureaucratic hurdles to information sharing with the EU, as well limited cross-national collaboration in fighting cyber criminals? There is also concern about the possibility of a brain drain -- in-demand security talent pool fleeing the UK -- which could increasingly impact security and data protection.
Limbago suggests tech workers in Britain's financial sector may feel the impact, "with Bitcoin surging and the pound dropping.... London's role as the financial hub is now threatened thanks to the Brexit, the rise of digital currencies, and the EU's move toward greater digital integration." And there's also the possibility of "a push for digital sovereignty and greater national control over the Internet." But another poll found that 64% of information security professionals didn't think Brexit would affect Britain's ability to defend against cyber-attacks. Can security professionals continue their inter-nation cooperation, elevating data and security concerns over new administrative differences between Europe and the U.K.?
Limbago suggests tech workers in Britain's financial sector may feel the impact, "with Bitcoin surging and the pound dropping.... London's role as the financial hub is now threatened thanks to the Brexit, the rise of digital currencies, and the EU's move toward greater digital integration." And there's also the possibility of "a push for digital sovereignty and greater national control over the Internet." But another poll found that 64% of information security professionals didn't think Brexit would affect Britain's ability to defend against cyber-attacks. Can security professionals continue their inter-nation cooperation, elevating data and security concerns over new administrative differences between Europe and the U.K.?
Will Brexit Hurt International Cyber-Security? (Score:4, Insightful)
No.
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Um, no.
FTFY
Re:Will Brexit Hurt International Cyber-Security? (Score:5, Informative)
But FUD! What about the FUD! The FUD is tanking! FUD! Brexit FUD!
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I thought he moved to Shpain becaush the taxesh in Shcotland were too high?
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Brexit will hurt a lot of things, but probably not things that are already working int the global sphere, if that is the correct term. Brexit will cause upheavals, and as always, this will harm those at the bottom of the pile (who ironically voted for brexit, it appears) and benefit those at the top. In the long run, however, brexit makes no difference; the internet will see to it, that the globalisation will continue, and national sovereignty will continue to become less relevant in a world where everybody
Will Brexit Hurt International Cyber-Spying? (Score:3, Informative)
Yes, yes it will. Which is a good thing for everyone outside of 5 eyes.
Seriously though, fuck global panopticon.
Re:Will Brexit Hurt International Cyber-Spying? (Score:4, Insightful)
It does that now (Score:3, Interesting)
GCHQ does whatever it wants now. When the EU tries to attack it, Britain uses its veto to block action. Without Britain in the EU, EU countries can protect themselves from 5 eyes surveillance.
It is however bad for Britain, because Brits cannot go to the European Court of Justice to have this shit declared illegal.
And they can't rely on their own government, Parliament rejected Snoopers Charter bad in 2010, GCHQ did it anyway, and now the Home Secretary they helped put in power is trying to make it legal. So
"The pound dropping" (Score:4, Insightful)
The pound is above the lowest point just after the Brexit vote - and pretty much stabilized.
There are a lot of people trying VERY hard to scare you into thinking the Brexit is a disaster, when in fact it is a blip. This whole "computer cyber-security" angle is pathetic.
This (Score:5, Informative)
The Globalists took a bit hit and are not happy. Of course the media outlets they own are trying to scare people in hopes of a fascist takeover to negate the vote. Hell, the day the votes were cast they started petitioning for another referendum trying to negate the first vote. That was the point in the claim that people were so ignorant and stupid that they had to Google search after the vote. I already spotted quite a few shill posts in this thread preaching that message.
Does cyber security get worse because people will be paid with Pounds instead of Euros? Nope, not at all. If the currency mattered we would never have an exchange. This is just more Globalist fear mongering. It's the easiest way to try and bend the public to their will, and has had huge success in the last 20 years or so.
Re:This (Score:4, Interesting)
I agree the EU backers crapped their pants when GB gave them the finger and actually voted to leave... and are looking for any angle to fear-monger this as a disaster for GB (mostly b/c it's a disaster for the EU if it goes through as it sets a precedent that even major countries can just up and leave if they are pressured enough.)
but, one small point -- the petition for a 2nd referendum you mention was actually started BEFORE the vote -- as a precaution by those that wanted to leave so that if their "Leave" campaign failed the first vote, they'd have a shot at a second. Turns out they won, and couldn't stop the petition which was then taken up by their opponents
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It is not even a disaster for the EU. Don't forget that GB isn't in the eurozone and Shengen. They never played along with the rest of the EU.
The French considered an exit for a long time but even now that is probably the time where a "frexit" is the most appealing, the majority wants to stay. In fact only the Front National wants France to leave the EU, and they will never win the elections.
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>why would Brexit campaign demand a harder barrier to challenge
Obviously because at the time the petition was created they thought Remain would win and wanted to challenge the result.
Oliver Healey, a candidate for the far-right English Democrats party, is the petition's founder. He is now crying that his petition, which he can't cancel, has been hijacked.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-petition-second-eu-referendum-latest-news-vote-leave-a7104076.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/e
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The Globalists took a bit hit and are not happy.
No the fans of "globalization" are rubbing their hands in glee, because this is precisely what they want.
The UK (or what remains of it) will negotiate a bunch of trade deals for freer movement of goods and capital which is so beloved by corporations, but won't have that pesky free movement of people that stops you fucking over people locked to one location.
In other words, if you dislike globalisation, you've just voted to keep the worst part of it while scrap
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No the fans of "globalization" are rubbing their hands in glee
"Globalists" are the "One World Government" crowd, they are on the opposite end of the political spectrum from corporate globalization.
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The UK don't use Euro. They use Pound. So the potential Brexit won't change anything :D
What the Brexit should/could have to do with cyber security: I don't know.
On the other hand, looking at all the back pedaling in the UK right now, I doubt they will leave the union.
On the other hand with Scotland doing everything to join the EU on their own and probably leave the UK, Europe might be at the turning point where national constructs vanish and the regions start to become members of the union. E.g. Catalonia l
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For exactly that reason Spain will probably veto an independent Scotland from entering the EU.
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Does cyber security get worse because people will be paid with Pounds instead of Euros?
You were always paid in Pounds in the UK, because the UK was even before the Brexit vote basically half a member in the EU. No Euro, no Schengen zone and a lot of other special rules.
The difference really isn't all that big.
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I'm not sure brexit will even happen. I see a new referendum requiring at least 60% with a minimum of voter participation if less than 60. Which is what they should have done, instead if allowing literally a 1 vote difference to make drastic changes to a lot of people's lives.
Cameron fucked that up, but there were already petitions in place before the vote, that may be considered.
I'm not taking a stand on what brexit means to anything for at least six months. Sure if its your job carry on, but on a us centr
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If you want to be an EU citizen, your best bet is to get an EU passport and emigrate. Let the little britainers play their experiment, it's the best of all worlds.
Wrong solution. Throw out anyone who voted to leave the EU. Let them swim to America.
Seriously, anyone saying "if you don't like it, leave" should be automatically punched in the face.
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So, everyone is lying when they say that "leave" got 52% of the vote?
I'm assuming you have some evidence to support your belief that only 35% of the people who voted said "leave" in spite of the news reporting that 52% of the people who voted said "leave"?
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Perhaps you should learn to read?
The parent (and I quoted it for more ease) claimed that 52% of _all people_ voted for leave, while in fact 30% off all voters did not even vote, and about 40% _of all people_ are to young to vote.
Voting participation was 70%. 51.something% for leaving 48.something% for staying. Over whole UK. OTOH, every single electoral ward in Scotland voted for staying, partly with 60% majourity.
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As someone who trades currency on the side, the pound dropping has meant I'm making more money since the currency I start with is already on the low side. Friends of mine who live by just trading stocks made 20-30% returns in the last week betting on the FTSE recovering which it did and was expected to do.
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Awesome. Because that's all that matters.
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Awesome. Because that's all that matters.
Pretty much. All I can do is wish I was that damned savvy and could have ridden the train. Probably a lot more people out there with money thanks to it though.
Re:"The pound dropping" (Score:4, Informative)
A lower pound to the Euro is beneficial to GB's local industries -- people buy local instead of foreign, and people living in the EU will be able to buy goods and services from GB cheaper b/c they can buy more with their euros after converting to pounds to buy GB goods/services.
International money markets are funny... When your currency goes up compared to others, you hurt exports, but help imports -- and vice versa when your currency goes down. No matter which way it moves, it hurts in some ways and helps in others.
Given that it wasn't a huge percent shift to begin with, I don't think GB is going to cry about the change even if it stays where it is as the "new normal."
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If only UK had something to export ...
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They manufacture Nissans over there. Don't underestimate the global demand for Nissan Notes and Jukes!
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This will be fixed with import tariffs if the UK wants to export to the EU.
Are you for real ? (Score:2)
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On a 5% deficit, the pound was 12-18% over-valued -- according to the IMF.
Yes, which was very nice for those who had them while it lasted.
Dropped ~10% after the referendum and Carney announced he may be cutting rates which will take the pound lower and allow him to raise rates at a later date. This will be necessary to stem inflationary pressure from more expensive imports.
You don't have stuff to buy locally, so you will be importing regardless. The pound would have to fall a long, long way to change that.
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The pound has not recovered [imgur.com] significantly after the Brexit crash, and is way down over the long term [imgur.com] from its usual level of around 200.
I've personally lost a small fortune this year because the Pound has lost 30% of its value when exchanged with the Yen.
The real long term damage hasn't really started yet. If we come out of the Single Market then several major companies have already announced that they will leave, for obvious reasons. We will probably just suffer a few more years of austerity and some long
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The pound is above the lowest point just after the Brexit vote - and pretty much stabilized.
It's still at its lowest point for years but hey, yes, a low pound is swings and roundabouts for the economy as a whole... and the FTSE 100 index just had a little wobble because of the shock of calling it wrong (and traders who predicted the wobble won big). The FTSE 250 which includes more UK-focussed companies is still down a bit - but, hey, it'll be back after a few weeks of normal trading. So, panic over, Brexit isn't going to harm the economy.
One small problem...
Brexit hasn't happened yet!
Now, I
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However, ALL sovereign nations have a RIGHT to let in, or reject anyone they do now wish to migrate that are not legal citizens of their country.
If you want to apply, and follow the legal means, then sure, they should consider you, but it isn't a given you should/will be accepted.....
Utter nonsense (Score:5, Insightful)
There is no magic or silver bullet in security, just a set of best practices (processes), technology and people working together. If done according to any major standard defense in depth will be used. There is no such concept as 'if national politics =X then Y. Best practices are widely publicized and available to any organization or government in the world.
Whether or not an organization follows security best practices has everything to do with their culture and nothing to do with their politics. There is no tool that any given country has a lock on.
What's next? Brexit endangers air supply?
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What's next? Brexit endangers air supply?
Remember folks - you read it on Slashdot first!
EU membership is more economic than political (Score:2)
Politics does have some impact, but not a tremendous amount in this case. The bigger question is: If a Brit gets paid a fair wage, would they work. Yeah, they would. Their bank would take the currency and convert it for them in almost all cases so that they could use their native currency.
TFA's question is fear mongering trash.
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Not Air Supply! What will we do without those great love songs?!?!?
EU: Come back, Great Britain! We can make it work!
Air Supply: I'm all Out of Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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There is no magic or silver bullet in security,
There is, however, a kind of "potion of level-up". It's called taking security seriously and changing it from an afterthought to a nonfunctional requirement, in the language of enterprise architects.
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Doing what you're talking about is part of my job. Security can't be an afterthought, bolt on security is one of the bane's of my work. Culture is the number one issue the security field faces.
FUD (Score:4, Insightful)
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It seems UK took itself by surprise. But sure, it's FUD, same as FTSE250 still being below the closing value of June 23rd, or the still pound being below June 23rd value (after having recovered a bit it went down again), right? You lot kinda sound like the knight in Monty Python movie... Wait until your arm (Scotland) takes itself from UK, and than say "it's just a flesh wound" and it will be exactly like the knight in the movie.
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the good people of Britain took by surprise some very powerful goups.
Ahhh! And it feels SO GOOD! There will not be a politically correct dictatorship ran by unaccountable ghosts. Bye EU! Buh bye!
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Yes there will. So many of the options for a post-Brexit agreement with the EU (the "Norway model" comes to mind) rely on us accepting free movement and EU legislation in order to retain access to the common market. The catch is that we will be subject to the same regulation without a hand in saying how it is made or implemented.
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Why would BR bother? There are hundreds of other countries, a great many who trade with the EU, that are not part of the EU, nor subject to its regulations (except with respect to the trade itself). Why would BR be any different?
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Very much this, some of the articles have been outright ridiculous. Infact most of the articles have been ridiculous.
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Fear Uncertainty Doubt The campaign to turn people's opinion has started. It seems that the good people of Britain took by surprise some very powerful goups.
It also took by surprise the likes of lying coward Boris Johnson and lying Gove. These two shit stirrers wanted to gain political points by getting the government in trouble. They were shitting themselves when their campaign was more successful when they thought. They were shitting themselves even more when Cameron stepped back and said "you got us into this shit, now you try to get out of it".
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Fear Uncertainty Doubt The campaign to turn people's opinion has started.
Started? FUD is exactly the reason why people voted for the Brexit in the first place. The FUD started a year ago and has even resulted in massive egg on people's faces on both sides.
Actual evidence (Score:5, Informative)
A recent slashdot reply [slashdot.org] caught my eye, because it succinctly sums up the situation in the UK.
In her department, which requires high-end medically-skilled professionals, her boss posted after Brexit. The basic gist was "Don't worry, everyone, your cancer diagnosis will still be safe in the hands of our department consisting almost entirely of Spanish, Italian, German, French, Polish, Greek, ...... personnel for the time being".
The important part of this post is that the jobs in this lab are denied to UK citizens due to globalism.
Of course, proponents of globalism will tell us that the UK citizens can easily move to Greece and get an equivalent job.
It could happen - right?
Globalism was sold to us as a way to increase our standard of living. It was well known that salaries would stagnate, but (we were told) the lower prices on imported goods would more than make up for the difference.
In hindsight, we see that salaries did stagnate, and also unemployment went up [gallup.com] while per-capita gdp about doubled [google.com].
Globalism is good for a handful few people, while it has driven half the workforce [cnn.com] to the brink of poverty.
The economic rationale says that the economy is doing great (which it is, actually) and ignores the dissatisfaction of millions of citizens as valueless.
Why should *any* country sacrifice the welfare of its citizens for the benefit of people in other countries?
If want to argue globalism, please include the analysis that indicates why having 75 million households on the brink of poverty and 10% unemployment is a good thing.
It's the difference between a rationalization and actual evidence.
Re:Actual evidence (Score:5, Informative)
Basically there were too things that propelled the Leave vote. First the lie that Brits had no representation in the EU (even some using the phrase "no taxation without representation"), except that the UK had representation in the EU, all member nations do. Sure they don't always get their way but that's true for all unions. Ie, California does not get it's way and is overridden by Washington but it doesn't throw a fit and demand to leave, since part of being a democracy is realizing that you don't always get the majority vote.
Second, a big push was the idea that they'd get rid of all the non-Brits if they left the EU. First off, amazingly racist and there is currently a big surge in racism in the UK. Many of those people with the wrong color were born in the UK, they can't be kicked out and the government will never allow it and will never have a majority "kick out the damn foreigners" faction. Who cares if the department has Spanish, Italian, German, Polish, and Greek staff? Is he really so stupid that the thinks a true blooded Brit would do a better job? No one is firing qualified British doctors to replace them with foreign workers, the foreign workers are getting the jobs because there's a demand for health care professionals that isn't being filled by the locals.
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Nice talking points. A little stale but palatable. Maybe next time condescend some more.
Re: Actual evidence (Score:5, Informative)
First, the British are not trying to throw off a government they elected, like in your example of California. The Californians elect representatives to the Federal government. The British representatives to the EU are unelected. California did not exist as a state before becoming a part of the USA. The UK was a powerful independent state for centuries before "becoming part" of the EU.
As to your screed about racism. What total garbage. The citizens of the UK want to close the border to indiscrminant immigration. It isn't a matter of race. There are many people of many skin hues and cultural backgrounds within the Commonwealth who are British citizens. The key is that they are westernized citizens. It has nothing at all to do with race.
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British representatives are chosen by elected representatives.
If it's not a matter of race then why is there a sudden upsurge in racism in the UK? Coincidence?
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The surge in racism is easy to explain.
You see, whites never had a racial identity, and so they got pushed around by the identity groups around them. For years this went on, until no one could remember anything else.
Now they are starting to wake up, and they are rapidly coming to the conclusion that they don't want to be on the losing end of your genocide.
And so now you racist fucks are getting pushback, often for the first time in your miserable coddled little lives. "How dare you whites not wither under
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The British representatives to the EU are unelected.
Fuck off, liar. I voted for my MEP.
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The British representatives to the EU are unelected.
That is nonsense.
Either they are selected by people who are elected, as in the case of the European Commission, or they are elected by the people, as in the case of the European Parliament.
The European Parliament had 766 members in 2014. All elected. How else should they get there? From those 73 are UK members and elected by the people of the UK. Again: how else should they get there?
Every member state sends an amount of european parliamentarians proport
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Nigel Farage is unelected?
Re:Actual evidence (Score:5, Insightful)
Fuck me, that's the biggest load of bullshit I've read on Slashdot in recent memory.
How one can distil down an enormously complex situation into "too"[sic] paragraphs of dubious authenticity and simultaneously claim to understand the issues involved sufficiently to invoke two strawmen designed to be easily knocked down is beyond me, but hey, knock yourself out.
Just don't expect to be taken seriously.
1) The "representation" for the *people* in the EU is horribly undemocratic. All the people get to elect representatives to is the toothless chamber, ironically named the European Parliament. Forgive me, but any so-called parliament that can't even propose legislation, or even have the final say in enactment of the legislation graciously imposed upon it, is no parliament worth bearing the name. I'm used to the people (or at least our elected representatives) having the power, not an unelected body of career politicians out to line their own (or their own countries) pockets.
2) There is an element of racism in every society on this planet, it's a leftover from the "us" vs "them" tribal nature of our shared history. There were indeed people with money who were advertising and therefore getting their message across this time, and some of those people had a xenophobic and sometimes racist agenda, agreed. To immediately paint all those who voted leave (for whatever reason of their own) as racist, because some other person was being racist in an advertising campaign beggars belief. Clearly critical thinking in whatever country you're from is lacking (and the point stands if that country is Britain).
The issues involved were complex, and it's not anywhere near as simple as "fuck those brown people"; to imply such is frankly insulting. Perhaps those who voted to leave simply chose the probability of lesser prosperity as an acceptable compromise for real self-determination.
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1) The "representation" for the *people* in the EU is horribly undemocratic.
It's better than what we have in the UK, so in terms of "democracy", we've just voted to lose a bunch of it. I voted for my MEP, and the Council member is selected from my elected representatives.
The commission which is more like a bunch of civil servants proposes legislation
My elected representatives get to reject, accept or arbitrarily amend it.
The so-called "undemocratic" commission can do nothing without the ascent of the democ
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I'm used to the people (or at least our elected representatives) having the power
Oh? Which system of government is that? Certainly not the EU, but also certainly not any government of any Commonwealth nation or former British empire (looking at you USA)
The idea that in the modern and common western world of incredible lobbying, corruption, career politicians, and massive disparity between the wealth of people; that the people have any power at all is nothing more than a fantasy.
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Perhaps those who voted to leave simply chose the probability of lesser prosperity as an acceptable compromise for real self-determination.
That's a great idea, except that it's not going to provide real self-determination, and the people who think that are only kidding themselves. Salt of the earth. The common clay. You know, morons.
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A surge is not related to a percentage of absolute, but rather a previous value to a new value. If one person a year spontaneously combusted in the world, right up until this year when suddenly 3 did, it's still a surge.
And quite frankly the surge of racism in the UK has been bad enough to severally drop people's opinion of the British in the past 2 weeks is disgusting. Yeah it's just a bunch of pre-existing racists high on the idea that their views are now legitimate, and there's no more racists in the cou
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That's... one way of putting a spin on things, I suppose.
The legitimate arguments I've seen for leaving are:
GB is obligated to conform to EU law domestically even though the EU began as a set of trade treaties. (Best example I've seen of this is local industries in GB that couldn't make things to different specs b/c the EU mandated something else and there was no system to get a waiver or to dispute the regulations) GB citizens and businesses didn't like that their local rules were being superseded by t
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Of course, other EU members have the same problems. Britain isn't unique here. While there were more rationale reasons for leaving the EU the aftermath of the vote seems to show that a lot of people accepted the simplistic reasons. Similarly all the states in the US are obliged to follow federal rules even when they don't make sense. When a region decides to leave because they don't like more distant rules then where does it stop, does it keep fracturing until there are only city states left, or smalle
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but there's a lot of Muslim influx which resists conforming to local customs and in some cases brings violence ... AFAIK the EU has no muslim member state ... but well, who am I to know such things.
Would be interesting to know from which EU states those muslims immigrate
Because the people calling the shots... (Score:1)
are traitors to their nation, in collusion with multinational business, power brokers, and foreign politicians to line each other's pockets at the expense of their constituents/citizens/slave dogs.
For all the talk about the 'Free world', it has just been indentured servitude under a different guise. You might be able to change jobs, but you can't really 'leave' the system. If you were to dispassionately compare history to modern times you would note it has been no different for periods with slaves or eunich
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The important part of this post is that the jobs in this lab are denied to UK citizens due to globalism.
Wow, you must be a kid or completely clueless to make such an ignorant statement!
Clearly, you've never for a large company which required skilled labour, and most clearly, you've never been involved in recruitment or interviews.
Go to any hospital and ask the senior doctor or management why most of the docs/nurses are from abroad!
I've been involved in recruitment, and I can tell you it's damn hard to find anyone skilled in UK... strange, I know. I didn't understand either, and even after quizzing HR, I assum
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Why should *any* country sacrifice the welfare of its citizens for the benefit of people in other countries?
Because if the country next door collapses, it has economic ramifications. And they might just pick up their weapons and come visit if things get bad enough at home. Ask a hard one.
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The important part of this post is that the jobs in this lab are denied to UK citizens due to globalism. Of course, proponents of globalism will tell us that the UK citizens can easily move to Greece and get an equivalent job. It could happen - right?
Just to put this in perspective for US citizens, this is like saying you should be able to move from Silicon Valley to Montana and get an equivalent job. That people from Texas and Chicago and New York are taking the jobs that "belong to" Californians. Because those jobs would always be there, it's only a matter of who fills the position.
If want to argue globalism, please include the analysis that indicates why having 75 million households on the brink of poverty and 10% unemployment is a good thing.
Sure, protectionism can protect the domestic market but it won't stop other countries from getting their stuff from China and India. And once you start putting up the fence
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Right on everything, except the globalisation attack.
The problem isn't globalisation. It would've been entirely possible for the entire population to profit from globalisation. If the 1% hadn't decided that they'd rather have all that nice money to themselves.
Here is a pretty good writeup with some graphs:
https://medium.com/@jamesallwo... [medium.com]
Of course it will. (Score:5, Interesting)
After all, when the corrupt members of the EU finish doing their plans and turn the block into a supercountry ruled by a group of unelected dictators with its own army and thirst for the rest of europe, they will attack UK both physically and via internet to take it down and conquer the land for themselves, thus indeed putting the UK's cybersecurity at risk.
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Actually we all dream about this!
Especially we Germans! Now as we have most of Europe as backup, a hick up like between 1939 and 1945 won't be repeated! Please safe us some virgins on the islands!!
(And please: remember to keep the tunnel open so we can bring in the tanks by train, much safer than using ships!)
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Can you guys come up with a rocket engineer that can make one that goes to mars this time?
London financial hub threatened? (Score:2, Informative)
London's role as the financial hub is now threatened thanks to the Brexit
UK's financial industry has nothing to fear from brexit, since Article 63 of the Treaty on Functioning of UE [europa.eu] forbids "all restrictions on the movement of capital between Member States and between (...) third countries".
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"the movement of capital" - what are you on about? Really? For reasons of compliance certain EU centric activities must be conducted within the EU. Banks are already moving jobs from the UK to the UK so that they can start the process of accreditation and remain compliant. Second. "Brexit" is the divorce. It takes two years. Then. Only then. Comes the negotiations for what role the UK will play in the EU. Passporting in the city of London will end before there is an option to negotiate an alternative. In th
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In the words of one analyst I know - you'll not see anything sudden happen.
You mean like a sudden plunge in world markets and an immediate tanking of the UKP? One analyst you know has already been proven wrong. Maybe that one analyst isn't a great source.
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A "third country" isn't just any country. It's a country that isn't a member but still follows the rules set by the EU.
Where do you got that definition? A "third country" is definitively a country outside of EU. Countries inside EU are covered by the words I omitted for the sake of clarity using (...) in my citation of article 63.
Here is the complete article:
1. Within the framework of the provisions set out in this Chapter, all restrictions on the movement of capital between Member States and between Member States and third countries shall be prohibited.
2. Within the framework of the provisions set out in this Chapter, all restrictions on payments between Member States and between Member States and third countries shall be prohibited.
Nope (Score:1)
EU is irrelevant. Before the EU ever existed, nations functioned. If the EU stopped existing, nations would still continue functioning.
Outside of the EU there are nations that perfectly function, inside the EU there are nations that perfectly function, and inside the EU there are also nations that are regressing and degrading daily as there are outside of the EU.
Whether UK stayed or left the EU is of no relevance. The EU is not an economic litmus test, and it isn't a litmus test on this topic as well.
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So called cyber-security (Score:2)
As long as our operating systems assume programs can be trusted, there will be no effective computer security. The Brexit has no effect on the current stupidity.
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Why is it that any event... (Score:2)
... will have the "cybersecurity" industry giving out press releases forecasting doom?
A bird shat on my car today. Cybersecurity will be weakened!
Toddler says first word. Cybersecurity will be weakened!
If they would shut up once in a while I may take them seriously...
Hyperbole (Score:2)
Will sun stop shining after Brexit??! (Score:2)
People should give all this hyperbole and pent-up claims a rest.
The Brexit will be a bit of a re-adjustment for a couple of months, especially after (finally?) invoking article 50, but all in all, it'll just be a footnote in history. In 5 years time, no-one will even remember what the fuss was about, and things will continue to run as they did before.
But I *DO* expect the politicians to keep their word and brexit. They said they would abide by the referendum, well, the people have spoken, whether one likes
Is it even possible (Score:2)
For cyber security to be any worse in general?
I think it will be an improvement (Score:2)
Anything that makes data sharing between UK, French, and German spy agencies harder will be an improvement to cybersecurity and privacy. It's too bad that Brexit won't probably make a significant dent in it long term.
fearmongering on drugs (Score:2)
Nonsense. Information Security (as it was called before "cyber" became the new black) is plagued by much more basic problems. For example that half of the companies in any given country basically don't have any. Or that we've still not solved basic problems like account enumeration or brute-force attacks (which, you wouldn't believe, way too many applications still allow).
There are essentially two games. The one is where baseline security is attacked, hackers looking for the weakest link, for targets of opp
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You forgot to do the Yoda hand-wave thing. Or is it the NSA-finger?
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The UK has a choice between leaving the EU and having a responsible set of people negotiating the exit, or leaving the EU with Nigel Farage negotiat
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Use lube?
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Unlike the US, EU, and China, we Canadians actually understand how to implement cybersecurity.
Having your entire country on a 19k2 modem line is _not_ cyber security.