Ubuntu's Unity desktop environment can run in Windows (wordpress.com) 170
An anonymous Slashdot reader writes:
"This is one of the coolest tickets I've seen on GitHub," writes Ubuntu developer Adolfo Jayme Barrientos, adding "this kind of surreal compatibility between platforms is now enabled...the fact that you can execute and use Linux window managers there, without virtual machines, is simply mind-blowing."
"The Windows 10 Anniversary Update coming in August includes an unusual feature aimed at developers: an Ubuntu sub-system that lets you run Linux software using a command-line interface," explains Liliputing.com "Preview versions have been available since April, and while Microsoft and Canonical worked together to bring support for the Bash terminal to Windows 10, it didn't take long for some users to figure out that they could get some desktop Linux apps to run in Windows. Now it looks like you can even load Ubuntu's Unity desktop environment, making windows 10 look like Ubuntu.
"The Windows 10 Anniversary Update coming in August includes an unusual feature aimed at developers: an Ubuntu sub-system that lets you run Linux software using a command-line interface," explains Liliputing.com "Preview versions have been available since April, and while Microsoft and Canonical worked together to bring support for the Bash terminal to Windows 10, it didn't take long for some users to figure out that they could get some desktop Linux apps to run in Windows. Now it looks like you can even load Ubuntu's Unity desktop environment, making windows 10 look like Ubuntu.
Windows(tm) or windows as in rectangle? (Score:1)
Hm? ANSWER ME!
Re:Windows(tm) or windows as in rectangle? (Score:5, Funny)
GREAT!
Now you can run Unity, the sluggish alternative to Gnome, on top of Microsoft's latest offering - famous for continuous 100% disk I/O utilization for system services!
Re:Windows(tm) or windows as in rectangle? (Score:4, Insightful)
It's really not particularly different from the old, OpneNT/Interix/SUA subsystem that MS supported for more than 10 years on NT and XP/Win7.
They finally admitted to having been handed their asses, and submitted meekly to the idea that the world of Linux kernel development had done a better POSIX implementation than a handful of paid engineers who used to work for Softway.
Re:Windows(tm) or windows as in rectangle? (Score:4, Informative)
Not to completely dis Softway, the OpenNT guys. Walli and team were a big part of getting POSIX and ISO reconciled in the 90's.
Here's a recent recounting, from the man who made it happen:
Now, six years later, what if you could properly port all of your business-critical UNIX applications to Windows NT and have them behave with absolute fidelity? And by port, I mean type “make” at the command line and fiddle a bit in an afternoon, not rewrite the application over months of time to Win32. What if you no longer had to buy and maintain outrageously priced hardware from the UNIX system vendors, but could buy PC-class hardware? Microsoft was on an explosive growth curve and Windows NT was a proper operating system. Linux was still very much in its infancy and a long way from being proven. The UNIX Systems Labs v. Berkeley Software Design lawsuit had put a chill over the BSD community.
https://medium.com/@stephenrwalli/running-linux-apps-on-windows-and-other-stupid-human-tricks-part-i-acbf5a474532#.o7vb5eph9 [medium.com]
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Crap, then. Win 10 and it's services are awful. Really, a giant leap backwards.
This is what happens, when you measure progress as the output of feature teams.
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Win 10 grinds physical platters into 20-grit.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=windows+10+100%25+disk+utilization [duckduckgo.com]
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So, the OS using the hard drive is a bad thing?
The new memory management structure of Win 10 allows the memory manager to compress unused memory pages before writing them out to disk, this is the "system process" that hits 100% disk usage...occasionally.
Otherwise, what are you complaining about with a generic search query?
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Don't be thick.
100% utilization of disk IO, for non-user activity over reproducible periods, lasting half a day OR MORE? Where the computer takes 4-5 minutes TO LAUNCH A BROWSER?
How much is Microsoft PAYING you, to apologize for this? If they are not, I suggest you begin submitting invoices to Redmond.
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You linked to a Duck Duck Go search. Not an issue, but a search. What am I supposed to gather from a variety of issues listed in a search result?
Yeah...I'm totally being paid for questioning what you were even trying to saying.
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Reversi.
Rename it "Recursi"
No Thank you.... (Score:5, Insightful)
I used/supported Windows for close to 20 years before I retired in 2010. At that time I decided I was done with using MS products, and moved all of my home machines over to single-boot Ubuntu. After seeing what a "turd_in_the_punchbowl" Windows 10 is, privacy-wise, I couldn't be happier with my decision.. I suppose for those who are *forced* to use Windows, either by their job or perhaps they just *think* they *have* to use Windows, this might be useful, but not for those of us who don't care to be MS's "product" and use Linux natively...
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People earning a living with horses were probably dismissing people toying with combustion engines.
Re: No Thank you.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Part of earning my living is done using the gEDA tools to reverse engineer old CNC controls. Linux is no toy for me. I'm sure there's a few network admins and others who are also glad there's a legit alternative to the Microsoft universe for doing real work.
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Part of earning my living is done using the gEDA tools to reverse engineer old CNC controls. Linux is no toy for me. I'm sure there's a few network admins and others who are also glad there's a legit alternative to the Microsoft universe for doing real work.
I believe there is [apple.com].
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I believe there is.
You can write newsletters or mix mp3s on pretty much any platform now.
Re: No Thank you.... (Score:1)
I disagree.
Did I mention my employment contract has overtime right including 4 hours of OT if I have to be called during the weekend?
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People who know their way around Linux make more money than people who know their way around Windows.
But if you want to continue doing data entry instead of real work, go right ahead.
Nobody doing "real work" gives a fuck about the operating system, it exists to run their applications and in the vast majority of commercial cases Linux desktop fails at that. That is why 90%+ of the world's desktop users use Windows, not because it's better, not becuase they "know their way around it" but because it runs the applications they need to do real work.
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My kingdom for mod points . . .
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I use Win to play games and develop. Now I can get best from both worlds, in a single boot w/o virtual crap. For me bash in Win is win.
You mean like this [macdevcenter.com]?
"making windows 10 look like Ubuntu" (Score:5, Funny)
After all those decades of various Linux distributions unsuccessfully trying to look like Windows, now you can make Windows actually look like one such distributions - Ubuntu.
Oh, the irony. It seems that the Year of Linux on the Desktop has finally arrived, but not in a way anyone could have anticipated :)
Re:"making windows 10 look like Ubuntu" (Score:4, Insightful)
If unity can run, then other more windows-like managers might also. Say Mint's skinned version of Mate or Cinnamon. Might be an interesting way of evading the adverts plastered into the hackjob of the win10 start menu.
Some part of me sees this as the "embrace" stage of the dreaded trio though.
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Some part of me sees this as the "embrace" stage of the dreaded trio though.
Oh not this again. Look Microsoft is no longer doing that. This is quite clear from the direction the company is going. Embrace Extend Extinguish was a fantastic move by an industry leader to squash the competition and retain the throne as the biggest and most relevant company in the software industry.
All the people with these good ideas have left the company now and the only thing that is left is how we can fail at mobile even harder than before and how far we can push our dumb customers before they switch
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Yeah, get the look of Linux and the security of Windows....it's what we've always wanted!!
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The little poison pills of "Windows only" hooks, offered through the posix api subsystem. If your project relies on those hooks, and Microsoft does not release enough information to implement in Linux correctly, (or Linux refuses to implement), then Microsoft can drive users back into its camp through that kind of "extend".
If Microsoft can get enough users their way, they can then start the extinguish phase.
Re: "making windows 10 look like Ubuntu" (Score:2)
These aren't POSIX API calls in legal but not spirit of interoperability. This is the full APIs and libraries of Ubuntu.
My hunch is since Bill Gates left MS is still scared of the web and now the threat of mobile and clouds.
What MS is doing under the new CEO is throwing in the towel of compatibility games of the 1990s and targeting hipsters with VS 2015 supporting Android, Linux, and open standards web development. No you did not misread that. MS has their own flavor of Freebsd 10.3 for Azure and full Linux
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The little poison pills of "Windows only" hooks, offered through the posix api subsystem.
If you're using Windows-only hooks then your software is Windows-specific by definition, if you want to make it cross platform then you need to use the equivalent functionality on the target platform. If that equivalent functionality doesn't exist on an open platform - like Linux - then you should implement that functionality. The only worry when it comes to a dependence on a particular platform is if that platform vendor offers developers such compelling functionality that not only is not available on othe
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Which only really works on the Corp version.
Nice try there AC. That canard is pretty well worn by now.
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After all those decades of various Linux distributions unsuccessfully trying to look like Windows
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Has been possible ~forever where ~forever is defined as for about 15 years time ;D
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After all those decades of various Linux distributions unsuccessfully trying to look like Windows,
I don't know about that. Slackware could be made to look pretty much exactly like Windows 95. Also, not that it's Windows, but back when we had Emerald and AWN you could make Ubuntu (etc.) look pretty much exactly like OSX. I've seen some pretty convincing XP themes, too; probably at least some of them were actually made out of the same images as the actual XP theme.
now you can make Windows actually look like one such distributions - Ubuntu.
You've been able to make Windows look like Linux for ages. There's a bunch of utilities for skinning it, and Windows has had fairly proper them
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There's still FLTK?
Remember the day...
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Now lets give them systemd
I was just thinking this. Whats next? Forcing systemd on the Windows world?? WTF.
They take the worst UI for Linux and make it available to Windows and thats supposed to be an improvement? The default UI in Windows 10 is WAY more usable than Unity.
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Sure but this is only a proof of concept done by Canonicalistas. Surely you can launch window manager/DE of choice using similar steps.
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I thought we stole it from them? You mean give it back?
Nope it was "stolen" from Apple. [wikipedia.org]
How does it work? (Score:2)
Re:How does it work? (Score:4, Informative)
The subsystem for Linux (SFL) implements a (large) subset of Linux syscalls.It allows unmodified ELF64 binaries to run. The syscalls are implemented in kernel, but acts upon Windows resources.
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So it's Line as in "Line is not an emulator"?
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So it's Line as in "Line is not an emulator"?
Yeah, pretty much. The NT kernel was designed from the start to support multiple subsystems (think OS/2, POSIX, Windows). Hence, there's an abstraction layer that lay dormant but came in handy for something like this.
SFL builds upon something called "pico processes" - which is derived from the initial idea of multiple subsystems. A pico process is a process that is stripped for everything OS specific. It can be used to build "Linux-like" processes on top instead of Windows processes. But it seems that it re
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SFL is implemented as kernel-level syscalls from processes/threads that are not Windows processes/threads
That sounds dangerous as all hell, an escalation just waiting to happen. Or am I misunderstanding?
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Very interesting, thanks.
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Does that count as a stack overflow?
Re:How does it work? (Score:5, Informative)
It's linked in the second page attached to this story:
https://github.com/Microsoft/BashOnWindows/issues/637 [github.com]
This is pretty much equivalent to: (Score:1)
Wine on Linux, but, the other way around.
Also, see iBCS under Linux. I'd used this nearly 20 years ago to run other OS binaries directly on Linux (without virtualization).
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This is incorrect. Wine is a userspace shim that operates at the library-call (API) layer, and translates Windows API calls like `CreateFile` to Linux equivalents.
The subsystem for Linux on the other hand operates at the system call (ABI) layer, implementing Linux system calls in the Windows kernel.
Now a Build Environment? (Score:2)
If they can get a build environment going, then NetBSD's pkgsrc collection ported over, we are in good shape.
This could be good for the Linux gaming community. (Score:4, Interesting)
If small developers with limited time budgets can just target their game at Linux, and have it automagically run on Windows, this might be quite the attractive option. No porting, just write for one "lowest common denominator" and let the OSes themselves sort it out. I would assume things intended to be cross-platform, like Vulkan, would also fit into this "it just works, everywhere" paradigm.
Re: This could be good for the Linux gaming commun (Score:2)
Interesting thought... though unfortunately, when it comes to games, the biggest issue is that they are (usually) tied to Direct X, which is Microsoft Only.
There are efforts to port Direct X to Linux (the WINE guys), its an uphill battle as it requires tonnes of reverse engineering and testing, plus MS likes to make massive changes in new versions.
If game developers were to move away from Direct X, and on to something cross-platform, then the bar is much lower to supporting Linux and friends.
Re: This could be good for the Linux gaming commun (Score:4, Interesting)
If game developers were to move away from Direct X, and on to something cross-platform, then the bar is much lower to supporting Linux and friends.
Speaking as a game developer... I'd suggest its not any technical hurdles that keep games away from Linux. Most game engines, whether commercial or custum, are written in portable C++, and use abstraction layers to hide any platform-specific code. In my own game engine, I'd estimate that platform-specific code only amounts to less than 5% of the total code.
Rather, I think it's simply the market-share of Linux... or rather, the lack thereof. Many games have Mac ports, meaning they obviously have an OpenGL renderer and POSIX compliant backend, but still no Linux support. It's pretty hard to get motivated to support an entirely new platform that only has 1% market-share, and it doesn't help matters when that 1% is further fragmented into a bunch of different distros, further complicating support and compatibility testing.
It's the same problem Windows phones have. By all accounts, Windows phones are pretty nice, but no one makes apps for them because of the abysmal market-share, which in turn drives more users away. It's sort of a catch-22 for platforms with a small market-share, making it extremely difficult to break in.
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I understand about market share. Say Linux is 10%, OS X is 20%, and Windows is 70%, just for the sake of argument. Right now it seems to pay to develop for the 70%, then maybe port for the 20%. What I'm proposing is that the mechanism works the other way around. Target the 10% knowing that the other 90% will be able to just run it unchanged. It may not have the right "skin" for that platform, but I can't think of many games that do, and the "authorized look and feel" changes from time to time anyhow. This d
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If the Game Engines are already abstracting this away, why /not/ provide builds for smaller OS's. I know there are extensions to Visual Studio to build binaries for Linux.
I think what a lot of game developers are missing is that gaming is the /only/ reason many users are keeping Windows. I'm 100% positive I know at least a dozen people personally (and I'm not a very social person) that would ditch Windows completely if they could game easier on Linux. Is that extra 1% effort not worth it to you to provide a
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There are a few reasons. Many commercial games use a lot of middleware libraries, not just the game engine (just count the logos on some games' splash screen). I was working as a contractor for a port recently, and I think there was easily a dozen middleware components in the game. These types of libraries tend to be licensed on a per-platform basis. Even if they're available on Linux at all, the licensing costs alone might preclude any reasonable chance at profits. Moreover, it's never "free" to devel
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Thank you for your further input.
I guess the TL;DR version is "because bu$ine$$" which is what I always assumed in the first place. I'm guessing very few (if any) managers or higher-ups even know that anything exists beyond Windows and OS X (or "PC" and "Mac" as they usually put it). I can see the uphill battle if a dev team tried to push for it.
Personally I don't actually play video games. I just don't see the appeal when I could be doing something more constructive with my time. I also have a wife and kid
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This is exactly where Vulkan and perhaps OpenGL have to take up the slack. For all the things Notch did wrong coding Minecraft, he made a fundamentally sound decision to not be tied to any particular OS or hardware platform. So long as the cross-compatibility can be maintained while ditching the pitfalls of Java, that part of the model is something other developers should look to emulate, because it worked out very well. Minecraft "just runs" on pretty much anything with sufficient power to run it. Unfortun
How is this news? Cygwin has been around since y2k (Score:1)
Ok - I fail to see how this is news. Cygwin has provided Gnu tools in windows forever. Cygwin-X has provided X11 in Windows forever.
So now Ubuntu has repacked the existing capability and it is news?
I fail to see what is new here.
I have had access to Bash on Windows since at least 2000.
Do we all just forget what we had before and then decide it's new when we see it again?
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Now, the POSIX system calls are not run completely in user space.
The SFU/SUA crap did this for Windows since NT 4.
You will NEED the speed - because Win 10 abuses use of hardware to the point of teary-eyed frustration.
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Anecdotally, I have had the begging, pleading ask for help by 3 different users in 2 different continents - because their shiny machines now were so aggressively saturated by background activity that they literally could not open a new browser tab, or a second application.
Because I come from security, the friends mentioned each approached because they thought they must "have a virus" or "been hacked".
All 3 cases were taskman and perfmon checked - 100% disk utilization - in one case for hours. Not slouch mac
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Ok - I fail to see how this is news. Cygwin has provided Gnu tools in windows forever. Cygwin-X has provided X11 in Windows forever.
SFL and Cygwin have drastically different performance profiles.
SFL is syscall translation in kernel space running on pico processes; Cygwin is syscall emulation in userspace running Windows processes and Windows threads.
Windows is built around an object oriented philosophy (handles) where, for instance, access rights are established upon handle creation. Handles covers many more types of resources in Windows compared to e.g. file descriptors or inodes in Linux. But the key difference is in lifetime. Under L
It's a trap (Score:5, Insightful)
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Agreed. Someone at Microsoft found another attack vector. That is all.
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Embrace, Extend, Extinguish...
This tactic only works if you're good at something. I firmly believe the current Microsoft strategic team running the company is too stupid to do this.
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If Microsoft can extinguish the Unity interface, then so much the better...
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Embrace, Extend, Extinguish...
What are they going to "embrace, extend, extinguish"?
Wow. Mix and Match -Anything- (Score:3)
So you can run Unity in Windows.
"Now it looks like you can even load Ubuntu's Unity desktop environment, making windows 10 look like Ubuntu."
First off, isn't that kind of like buying a Ferrari rag top and driving it around with reins and a buggy whip?
Second off, why on Earth would anyone want to inflict Unity on Windows. I don't much care for Windows, but have a heart!
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Canonical doesn't see Windows as reins and a buggy whip, but as a monetizing layer. If Microsoft gives Canonical a kickback for every Ubuntu-on-Windows-10 user, then Canonical might discontinue profitless standalone-Ubuntu.
Great timing...? (Score:3)
i just put Debian Jessie on an older laptop to fart around with some LinuxCNC after several years of using *buntu near exclusively. I like it, there's something reassuring in having a definite root user account again. Xfce is crisp on this old celeron with 500MB memory...
I'm old-school and was getting into computers before Microsoft was much of anything. They have epitomized all that is wrong with corporate power from the beginning. I don't trust them. I don't want anything to do with them. I don't want to be tied to anything that's tied to them at all, if at all possible.
"The love of money is the root of all evil." When you see evil in something, it is wise to separate yourself from it...
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Become root on Ubuntu (sudo su, etc.) then type "passwd". It's all that's needed to be able to log in as root again. /etc/sudoers, or configure it but that's only needed for real multi-user machines.
You can disable sudo by messing in
Never got embrace and extend (Score:2)
Some compare this to embrace and extend. Some IE features such as XMLHTTPRequest that Microsoft added to the web actually made interactive web possible for things like messaging apps. Instead of balking at Microsoft's ideas, why not adopt them into open source projects? If microsoft had not adopted Web technology it would have instead made its own entirely proprietary protocol. I dont know, it sounds like its much easier to emulate a few Microsoft extensions to an open protocol than to try to emulate an ent
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Some IE features such as XMLHTTPRequest that Microsoft added to the web actually made interactive web possible for things like messaging apps. Instead of balking at Microsoft's ideas, why not adopt them into open source projects?
So, what have the Romans ever done for us? But seriously, Microsoft does have the occasional good idea, but they are dramatically outnumbered by the bad ideas they implement.
Instead of working with Microsoft. I think Canonical should be working with Dell, Lenovo, HP etc to get Linux to support more PC hardware adn get Linux installed as an alternative on off the shelf computers. These makers could also fund WINE and a Windows driver compatability layer for Linux, which would eventually payoff in freeing them from MS royalties.
Here's the problem with that idea: it is not really possible. It's possible to emulate Linux because it's open. If it doesn't follow the documentation you can see precisely why, where, how, etc. We don't have that luxury with Windows. Wine can improve, sure. But be as good as a Linux compatibility layer? Absolutely not.
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It took the various Web-standards organizations 10+ years to provide a sane HTML height/width option - with "display: flex;"
Then there was IE that sanely used (by default) "box-sizing:border-box;" - which conflicted with every other browser as "border-box" includes padding and borders.
CSS does the width include the padding? (2009) [stackoverflow.com]
Re: Never got embrace and extend (Score:2)
You are incompetent. IE 6 supports the proper box model
Not unless you force IE6 into strict-mode. (Score:2)
box-sizing - CSS | MDN [mozilla.org]
Although, perhaps less incompetent than yourself, as I don't insult others when I don't know what the fuck I am talking about.
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Fortunately much of Linux userland is under GPL so if Microsoft does make any change to a Linux userland tool, it would have to contribute it.
Well nothing that they distribute in Windows can be GPL anyway.
Instead of working with Microsoft. I think Canonical should be working with Dell, Lenovo, HP etc to get Linux to support more PC hardware
They already are, the Dell Inspiron [dell.com] can be configured with Ubuntu, their XPS 13 [dell.com] edition comes with it installed as do a various number of their Precision workstations listed here [dell.com]. The problem is certainly not availability and compatibility, the problem is that people don't want it.
The worst of Linux in Windows! (Score:3)
Not very different from a VM (Score:2)
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Still the professional editions of Windows come with Hyper-V these days so why bother? This would be useful in the Windows 7 days for those non administrators who didn't want to shell big bucks for VMWare workstation. Of course for a few dollars a month you can get Azure or Amazon E3 clouds
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It's a double whammy (Score:2)
Great! (Score:4, Insightful)
So now I can overlay one dreadful GUI with another equally dreadful GUI.
Why would I want to do this?
This is not cool. This is very bad (Score:1)
Are the three letter agencies are so desperate to get everyone onto the Windows 10 spyware platform that they'll try and persuade people this is a cool idea? Or is it embrace, extend, extinguish? I think open software, allowing people the freedom to choose not to give all their data to some massive state/corporate owned database, is something that annoys some of the powers that be so much that they'll try to get people into their clutches by any means.
Ug! Shoot me!! (Score:2)
Let's see- Unity or MS-Windows 10 interfaces? What kind of choice is that? Just shoot me! I think I will stick with KDE, Mate, Cinnamon, LXDE, or XFCE!
Bragging (Score:2)
Being able to run Linux apps in Windows is like bragging that gold leaf will float in a sewage tank.
X-Server window around the Ubuntu Desktop? (Score:2)
Wow. havent seen that in a long time.
so it's like Wine in reverse - "Line" then? (Score:2)
So Windows got linux/ubuntu emulator?
Should we call it "Uine" or better yet "Line"?
"Line" is not an emulator?
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Appearance is not the problem (Score:2)
"It also opens the door to running alternate desktop environments if youâ(TM)re not a fan of the Windows user interface (although the method described in that link uses Cygwin rather than Ubuntu on Windows."
Now if you could only get rid of that pesky spyware laden operating system under it then you would be golden.
I don't even want to ... (Score:2)
run that turd of a desktop on Linux. Never mind Windows.
Unity was born when there was some plan to have Ubuntu touch interfaces on tablets and phones. By the time anything was delivered that mostly worked, that ship had sailed. Apple and Android had both markets locked up.
In a sense it's not that different from the UI from Windows 8 that was intended to have similar ubiquity, and was largely as reviled.
Only tooks Microsoft's help... (Score:2)
However, as you can see it never took off. So don't expect the same for Ubuntu's Unity.
I may actually switch if... (Score:2)
Does it actually run instead of the Windows 10 desktop or is it just running over it?
Finally ! (Score:2)
The promised year of Linux on the desktop ! or close enough.
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It is not Linux underneath. It's Windows. It is only Linux in userspace. This allows Linux developer tooling - which was the actual point of Subsystem for Linux.
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Dont count on it to be too soon. Some rather basic features such as 'ping' (icmp) simply dont work due to the way the windows kernel works.
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