Google's New Emoji Aimed At Promoting Gender Equality Are Coming (arstechnica.com) 200
An anonymous reader writes: Based largely on a proposal from Unicode Consortium member Google, Unicode Consortium has announced plans to support new emoji aimed at promoting gender equality. There will be "11 new 'professional' emoji [that] will depict both men and women performing different jobs, and there will be both male and female versions of 33 existing emoji that currently depict either a man or a women but not both," writes Ars Technica. "The new professions include, in the Unicode Consortium's words: a farmer, welder, mechanic, health worker, scientist, coder, business worker, chef, student, teacher, and rockstar." What's unusual about the new emoji is that they're created using combinations of existing emoji to avoid waiting for Unicode version 10.0 to be finalized in June of 2017. By using a special "zero-width joiner" (ZWJ) character between two or more emoji, operating systems that support it know to put out a different composite emoji rather than a series of separate emoji. "The new emoji for professions start with either a man or woman emoji, then a ZWJ character, then another character related to the job," reports Ars. "Emoji that were previously one specific gender (the dancing woman or the man running) can be joined to a male or female symbol with a ZWJ character to create emoji of either gender. And all of these emoji can be combined with the existing skin tone modifiers to produce diverse versions of either gender." We may see these combined emoji before the end of the year as software companies begin to integrate them into their operating systems.
yay more emojis (Score:4, Funny)
that should fix all the gender issues.
What a waste of resources! (Score:2)
I mean people used to make up emojis and now we have committees to from standards and graphic artists designing them and people debating them. Take the time and money and do something that matters even a little. I am still waiting for the one eyed bisexual Episcopalian Kangaroo emoji.
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The pistol emoji shows up as a realistic handgun, with the exception of Microsoft who chose to display a toy ray gun [emojipedia.org]
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The fact that these things don't display the same across platforms means they're useless trash.
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I honestly have yet to figure out what the fuck the point in most of these emojis is. In the past everybody just used a combination of existing ascii symbols to show the mood of your message, and I am still trying to figure out what the new emojis solve that that system didn't solve. I mean what the fuck kind of mood is a tomato or an ant supposed to represent?
And speak of all of the PC shit that's going into it now, I wonder how BLM would respond if you sent messages with a watermelon and a chicken?
Serious
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I honestly have yet to figure out what the fuck the point in most of these emojis is. In the past everybody just used a combination of existing ascii symbols to show the mood of your message, and I am still trying to figure out what the new emojis solve that that system didn't solve.
You need to understand a bit about where and why emoji's started showing up in the first place. And to do that, we go back to pre-millennium Japan.
Japanese is, to put it bluntly, an insanely crazy written language. Modern Japanese uses no less than four different scripts/alphabets, and in any given sentence different types of words may need to be in different alphabets!. They are:
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This is where Emoji came from. Imagine a late 1990's cell phone with the 12 standard buttons, and having to send text messages to someone in Japanese. How do you use those 12 buttons to select from thousands of Kanji symbols?
T9 [wikipedia.org].
Don't try and be an amateur linguistic historian, when people are alive today that sent SMS messages in the mid 1990s. Also, the history of emoji is in Wikipedia.
So what's the real story? Someone at NTT Docomo wanted prettier emoticons. Then once they had that, they decided to shove all their icons into this new dingbat font for ease of use. Softbank wanted feature parity, so they did the same. Then later the two fonts were shoved together, and so we have the unholy union that gives us ðY"' and
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Re: yay more emojis (Score:5, Interesting)
No.
Your summary of Japanese writing systems is pretty accurate, but that has little to nothing to do with where emoji come from.
Japanese did not have a single unified text encoding scheme used by all technology manufacturers, but because all of them needed the ability to essentially select from a bunch of different pictures in order to write kanji, many of the different proprietary text encodings included code points (and font support) for actual pictures of things too -- emoji.
Then Unicode came along and said we're going to make One Text Encoding To Unite Them All, a single text encoding into which all text could be converted without any loss of data, which meant that they had to be able to encode all of those emoji code points in all of those different proprietary Japanese text encodings.
As you say, Apple included font and input support for this in iOS, mainly intending to service the Japanese market, but then it was discovered by Westerners as well, and exploded in popularity -- yeah, probably due to teenagers who found them cutesy.
All of this gender and race stuff nowadays is not because anyone is pushing some kind of social justice agenda, but because the original emoji were extremely haphazard -- it's just whatever these handful of Japanese companies felt like including in their proprietary text encodings, that then also had to be supported in Unicode. Because of that haphazard origin, things are weirdly non-diverse, for no good reason; it just so happened to end up that way. And then the people overusing these things that were really just legacy support for old proprietary foreign features started asking why is there only e.g. a dancing woman, not a dancing man? "I'm a man and I want to indicate dancing, why is there only a woman dancing, and no man?"
The answer is "haphazard history", but also "sure, why not", and so we get new combining characters to indicate the sex and gender of your dancer or runner or construction worker or whatever, because if we're going to have this crap in there, which we have to to fulfill the basic purpose of Unicode to support all text encodings from everywhere ever, then we may as well be fair and neutral about it all while we're at it.
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See the mismatch? That's the problem.
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You are aware that, for example, the letter A, is a highly derived and abstracted version of a picture of an ox's head?
Text characters and pictures are not that far apart, and in East Asian languages (where emoji originate) even less so.
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They totally are far apart. This is why a text file isn't the same thing as a directory full of gifs.
As for the East Asians, if they'd produced Turing, Mandelbrot, Shannon & Von Neumann then maybe computers would have natively supported their scrawlabets from the outset.
But they didn't. One must pay the ball from where it lands.
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Even now, Unicode is not universally used in Japan. TRON encoding is pretty common in embedded systems, and many PC and mobile apps have hacks to fix issues in Unicode. Unicode can't support mixing Japanese, Chinese, Korean and mathematical symbols without extra hacked in metadata, for example, where as TRON encoding can.
A lot of apps still use the older Shift-JIS encoding too. Open any random readme.txt file from Japan and 99% of the time it will be Shift-JIS, as well as most of the strings coded into the
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...because if we're going to have this crap in there, which we have to to fulfill the basic purpose of Unicode to support all text encodings from everywhere ever, then we may as well be fair and neutral about it all while we're at it.
So then shouldn't the push be to make emoji genderless/raceless/etc that way there can be one 'dancer' instead of every single combination of sex/race/width/wealth?
Re: yay more emojis (Score:5, Interesting)
It's not as bad as you make out. Consider that English has 26 letters, but actually there are another 26 that have the same meaning but are uppercase versions of the lowercase 26. The logographic ones (kanji) are more complex but each is made up of a few simpler ones, so once you know the basics it's not too bad.
Typing on phone pads isn't bad either. In fact, many Japanese are so good at it that they prefer it over a QWERTY keyboard. Both Google's and Apple's mobile Japanese keyboards support phone keypad input modes.
Basically each key is assigned to a vowel sound, and you hold it down to select the consonant. On top of that you have something like the western predictive text system where each key can be one of three or four characters, and the phone suggests the most likely combinations. In Japanese though, there are more suggests on screen and not just words, but whole sentences. The prediction is much more advanced and Japanese people can type incredibly fast on it.
I can in fact speak Japanese and I can assure you that the writing system is not horrendous, it's actually quite efficient. Kanji can be some work to learn, but on the other hand there is no spelling or odd grammar rules or character combinations making different sounds you need to master. The language is also highly regular, there being only two irregular verbs.
I think it's actually a common misconception that having difficult writing system caused the adoption of emoji. They were really just invented by phone companies as a way to personalize and decorate messages. Anyone familiar with Japanese culture will know that they like to decorate things with little symbols and pictures.
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https://xkcd.com/927/
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Still, if I want to send a smile face, :) requires two key strokes. On an iPhone, it is the emoji button, scroll, scroll, scroll, smile face, five keystrokes. Besides, the text version forced one to use their imagination. Same with other ascii drawings, such as ;) for wink, or even (o\_|_/o) for a classic VW. And of course, back then, all of these were gender neutral.
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Some of those emotiocons also served as subcultural identifiers.
The 'bird ones' are only ever seen within the furry community.
:> Maps to :-)
/:> Headtilt, indicating questioning or examination
:>- Tongue out, indicating silly
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In the past everybody just used a combination of existing ascii symbols to show the mood of your message
Which is why emoji are needed. Not everyone uses ASCII, for a start, because it only supports Latin characters.
If the rule was that when we can use a string of ASCII instead of a character we should use a string, there would be no plus/minus character either. Mathematicians might have something to say about that.
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The fact that these things don't display the same across platforms means they're useless trash.
The fact that they exist means they are useless trash. I was permanently turned off the thing when some years back, teenagers used to collect the things, and they were a malware vector. I cleaned many a machine that teenagers used, and after admonition to stick with one set of emoji they knew and could be trusted, they proptly went out a bollixed their machines up again.
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No the fact that they are emojis makes them useless.
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No the fact that they are emojis makes them useless.
On Slashdot, perhaps. The rest of the world wants to convey more than just bitter cynicism in their messages...
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Funny but I think that people have been managing to do that with words for a very long time. I don't think Shakespeare ever used an emoji.
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Considering he was writing plays, I'm not surprised...
Communication is about more than just words -- and most people aren't very skilled writers. You can't expect the average person to express themselves, without ambiguity, using words alone. Emoji are very helpful there.
There's a lot of controversy around emoji right now, which has lead some people to deny that they have any useful role in modern communication. That's foolish, of course, as we've used them effectively for decades. The smile, wink, and
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" The word "hello" rose from obscurity as it filled a need created by a radical new technology: the telephone."
The word and it came about organically it did not happen with a committee. The fact that they are trying to cover every variation to be politically correct.
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Don't worry, they have a backup plan that consists into letting people enact sharia laws over the whole planet. This will surely fix the gender issues.
ahh, sharia and sharia alike, as the old saying goes.
50th Google related article today... (Score:1)
This must be the 50th Google related article today. Anything else happening in the world today?
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I'm a little disappointed in the professions (Score:2)
I was hoping for rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief, doctor, lawyer, Indian chief.
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Great! (Score:5, Funny)
A better way to promote gender equality (Score:5, Insightful)
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Dear god. If I had any karma points left I would up-vote you a million times. I'm all for gender-equality but this emoji shit is utter bullshit.
Unicode should contain letters, period.
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Dear god. If I had any karma points left I would up-vote you a million times. I'm all for gender-equality but this emoji shit is utter bullshit.
Unicode should contain letters, period.
Do they have a dickbutt emoji? That would be kewl.
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The only real way to solve this is to either hard fork unicode based off either filtered specifications minus emoji, or start over with a new characterset and deal once again with type conversion and assumptions in code. Neither is a good option, but with the increasing bloat and visual confusion thanks to emojis, it may soon be worth doing.
Option 3, best option: ASCII for life.
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Unicode has to support some emoji, because Unicode has to be able to interconvert with text from old proprietary Japanese text encodings that included emoji, because that's what Unicode does, it interconverts with every text encoding from everywhere ever. That's the whole point of it.
And if it's going to be encoding some emoji, it may as well support and fair and neutral selection of races and sexes etc, rather than just whatever random haphazard cross-section of them happened to be included on the whims of
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On the other hand, a bunch of whiny idiots seem to think that changing language and other symbolic depictions is the most important struggle, so they get symbolic shit in return. It won't change a thing in the world, except make the whiny idiots feel better.
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There are an infinite and arbitrary number of "emojis" that someone could think of. Unicode is not the place to put them.
Fucking Search Company (Score:5, Insightful)
Google is a fucking search company.
Emoji's are emoticons and existed in complete form in icq 20 years ago.
And I'm all for gender equality, but this shit is seriously turning to some Jim Jones level shit and people need to get some fucking perspective. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter, christ.
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That would actually take work. Screaming about things on Twitter and Facebook is much easier.
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It is just another case of SJW's hijacking existing stuff that works well and then breaking it. The only thing these people care about is themselves.
But where are the Trans emoji? (Score:1)
If we aren't truly inclusive, someone might feel left out. We need emojis of Caitlyn Jenner as a doctor or lawyer to help out.
(In these demands/discussions of diversity, no one ever brings up really small groups like Eskimos/Inuits. They get the shaft.)
Word verification: unbiased
Re:But where are the Trans emoji? (Score:5, Interesting)
As a trans reader, I feel obligated to say that not all of us are SJWs. A lot of us go about our lives not telling anyone in person about it, except for the people we are dating. Please try not to be influenced by celebrities that are only famous for being related to famous people while being trans. Not long ago, transsexuality was mainly covered as a tabloid Jerry Springer topic, like little people, so they and the media are playing it up for all it's worth.
Transsexuals make up less than 0.3% of the population and get so much more media attention than more deserving causes with that proportion or more: Down syndrome. Hemochromatosis. IBD, which includes ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease. Parkinson's disease. Type I diabetes.
Before I graduated, at my university's Student Union Building there was a family bathroom I usually used first, not because of anything to do with being trans, but because it's usually used less often so it's cleaner, and I like my privacy. Before the NC bathroom headlines, they put a sign to the left of it explicitly saying that anyone could use it, regardless of gender identity. It's more likely the Gay-Straight Alliance lobbied for that, but sometimes I think that bureaucrats are going out of their way to antagonize social conservatives so they can tick off some boxes, and it just counterproductively raised awareness of transsexuals --- as a target for social conservative politicians on the right.
I hope that these words help get across that it's not transsexuals' fault that the media has disproportionate coverage, and a lot of transsexuals would prefer it if there were /less/ awareness and inclusion (when it negatively affects other people, like M2Fs in the Olympics), but you can't exactly raise an awareness campaign about that. I don't usually reply to people, so...please let me know if it did.
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Transsexuals are an excellent target class for people to hate upon. They are few in number, and violate social norms in a somewhat creepy way. People need an Other to oppress: Right now, it's your turn. If trans acceptance ever becomes universal within a culture, someone else shall take that place.
Chloe says (Score:2)
More seriously, though, I'm torn on whether I support this or not (like my opinion on the subject matters, haha). If they're going to turn Unicode into AOL Instant Messaging or w/e, I guess they may as well strive to be politically correct about it?
Meh.
Make Them Androgenous (Score:1)
[emoji] can be joined to a male or female symbol with a ZWJ character to create emoji of either gender
AKA the SJW character.
Seriously though, why not just modify the emoji to be androgenous? They're abstract symbols anyhow, so they might as well be.
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((:-{)>
That's Mohammed.
((:-)-8
That's the 'dude with boobs' version of Mohammed.
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Because women have long hair (and ponytails) and men have short hair... at least according to the differences I saw between them (except for the swimming one).
So long as "mother" is still a woman... (Score:4, Interesting)
Oh, wait, "Mother" has already been replaced with "Parent 1"... Is there an emoji for that — and is it different from the symbol for "Parent 2"?
Here is the symbol for "family" [emojipedia.org] — and, for one, am triggered by their definition:
Multiracial but not multicultural (Score:1)
At least Mozilla's shows up as a couple of histapnic and irish descent, but that does imply they are both Cathoilc and therefor share the same religion. *TRIGGERED*
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Here is the symbol for "family" - and, for one, am triggered by their definition:
If by "triggered" you mean "triggered into writing stupid shit on the internet", then sure. Other than that, taking the piss out of people who mention trigger warnings is about on the same level as taking the piss out of people who mention epilepisy warnings before a video.
Hello Slashdot, (Score:1)
Now you have another reason not to use unicode here, as if there aren't enough already.
Up next: (Score:2)
I demand my own personal emojis. I'm triggered by emojis that differ from me by gender, race, eye colour and baldness pattern.
tag: slownewsday (Score:2)
Seriously, did the static integrity of bags of rice in China improve so much that this is now a story?
Too bad Apple shutdown Ammosexual (Score:4, Insightful)
Sure bicycles are an okay hobby and have an emoji, sure taking a dump has a turd emoji dedicated to it, but going to the range [fool.com] is a hobby that gets Tim Cook's panties in a twist.
Microsoft is just as bad, but everyone considers them evil anyways.
Emoji is for morons (Score:2)
If you have a working brain, you can express yourself with words. If you can't, you're a moron. To hell with emoji.
Insanity (Score:2)
It's going to get out of hand to declare the emoji pretty soon by using the ZWJ. We're going to have ...
base emoji + gender + skin tone + hair length eye colour +
People are going to spend longer defining a single emoji than it would have taken them to write what they wanted to say in the first place.
Of course the opposite direction and trying to include a distinct emoji for every case will be just as crazy.
Requires a new encoding, too. (Score:2)
WTF-32
images. (Score:2)
These fucking things called "emojis" are images and should be treated as such.
They have no business being added to Unicode.
And I can not believe that there is actually a "Unicode Emoji Subcommittee".
For crying out loud. What's this world coming to?!?!?!
Definition of Unicode:
Unicode is a computing industry standard for the consistent encoding, representation, and handling of text expressed in most of the world's writing systems.
Do you even remember what Text is? Can you even Write anymore?
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Unicode has to support emoji, because the mission of Unicode is to interconvert with every text encoding from everywhere ever, and there are old proprietary Japanese text encodings that support emoji, so Unicode has to too.
And if Unicode has to support some emoji in the first place, and people are actually going to take that legacy support and run with it, then it may as well do it right while it's at it, instead of just whatever haphazard shit a handful of old Japanese coders threw in their proprietary sta
This Is An Outrage! (Score:2)
Not only does this exclude those who self-identify as gender neutral or fluid (among many other identities), it just assumes that longer hair is enough to signify womynhood, which is a clear nod to the patriarchy!
In all seriousness, though, this is a private company adding to their services. If it really bugs you that much, don't use Google's services (there are alternatives).
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And by "private company," I mean, of course, "public company." D'oh.
Clearly, what I was getting at is that this is a company that you don't absolutely have to affiliate with. It can't govern you, and there are alternatives -- even to a behemoth like Google -- if this issue really rises to the level of boycotting or something.
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Those terms don't have any real meaning. Google is a publicly TRADED company, but it is not publicly MANAGED or publicly OWNED. And whether it was publicly or privately traded, it would be governmentally REGULATED (although the regulations would differ somewhat between publicly and privately traded).
Unicode (Score:2)
In all seriousness, while Unicode is intended to be universal, I don't think that bullshit emojis have a place in it. We have markup in addition to characters, not to mention SVG and other formats which can better represent them. They don't have to be in the Unicode standard.
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Unicode has to interconvert with Japanese proprietary text encodings that support emoji (because unicode has to interconvert with every text encoding, that's its entire mission), therefore Unicode has to support emoji.
And if it has to support emoji and people are actually going to use them, it may as well do it right instead of whatever shit a handful of Japanese programmers felt like throwing in there.
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It's not about Japanese programmers currently being involved in Unicode, it's that Unicode has to support everything that the programmers of some old Japanese text encodings decided to support, which is where the original emoji come from. And then if it has to support some emoji at all, it may as well do it right.
We've all been waiting for these... (Score:2)
...medieval punctuation marks of course.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/charl... [buzzfeed.com]
If you need gender emoticons, you have no equality (Score:2)
Just use fucking smileys. A head. Yellow, like no person looks like. Looking nice, clean and clear to understand.
But no. The smileys got debile like the "tears of joy" face, a parody of what they should tell. And the rest needed to get features like hair, which is associated with gender (do you see, how there is no equality, if you claim you need some smiley with pink shirt and long hair to identify it as female?).
Re:What's that smell? (Score:4, Funny)
That's SJWs pissing themselves with glee. They aren't very bright, they think this means something.
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I imagine that some SJW's won't be so happy with Google limiting the gender count to only two.
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Thousands of years from now, when archaeologists are digging up our remains and examining the bone-structure, they are going to identify the remains as male or female by the subtle differences unique to each and identify the person as 'male' or 'female' based on their physiology.
Gender is not a social construct. Mental illness on the other hand is.
http://anthropology.si.edu/wri... [si.edu]
http://forensicoutreach.com/li... [forensicoutreach.com]
Ignorance is Strength (Score:2)
Male and female yes, but those are not genders. They are sexes.
The very point of the modern construct of 'gender' was to isolate that which is social construct (masculine/feminine) from physiological sex (male/female). This really is not a difficult concept [monash.edu.au] to grasp. Why is this such a challenge for you? [Rhetorical question: I
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having a black pen while wanting a blue pen does not make you mentally ill
Having a black pen while *insisting everyone must call it a blue pen* makes you mentally ill
Thank you for the wonderful analogy to help highlight my point.
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Thank you for the wonderful analogy to help highlight my point.
Analogy to what? It certainly doesn't analogise the distinction between 'sex' and 'gender.'
What do you call the propensity of female humans in our culture to wear skirts and the propensity of of male humans not to? Because that is what is being referred to by the concept of 'gender.' Do you believe that this propensity is a physical property (inasmuch as 'black' or 'blue' are physical properties)? Do you believe the propensity for women t
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There is no distinction between sex and gender. Sex and gender are two words to describe the same thing.
Citation:
http://www.etymonline.com/inde... [etymonline.com]
What do you call the propensity of female humans in our culture to wear skirts and the propensity of of male humans not to? Because that is what is being referred to by the concept of 'gender.'
No, this is called 'culture'.
Roman armor and kilts destroy your entire argument regarding skirts.
Roman Armor Skirts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Scottish Kilts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Arabic Thawb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Just.Stop.Now. You're not doing the LGBT / Feminist movement any justice.
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You're not doing the LGBT / Feminist movement any justice.
Neither are you.
There is no distinction between sex and gender. Sex and gender are two words to describe the same thing.
They can be used to mean the same thing but generally are not. The etymology notwithstanding, a check of almost any contemporary dictionary will qualify that 'gender' is "typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones."
But more to the point, it is the very usage of gender as social
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The etymology notwithstanding
Facts be damned...
http://apps.who.int/gender/wha [who.int]... [who.int]
You're quoting a political entity rather than a factual entity.
Not happening.
What?! You mean the propensity of skirts to be worn by women but not men, in our culture, is not universal? You mean construing skirt-wearing being feminine is a .... gasp ...social construct, and not biology? Aha!
What in the ever loving hell are you on? It's a cultural fashion, skirts are detached from Gender.
Let's get this clear. Gender is not a social construct. It is what you were born with. If you think that dressing or looking like a woman will make you a woman you are deranged. It is an insult of the highest order to women and all that they put up with that their body puts them through.
Gender is not a social construc
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Facts be damned...
Nope, just the etymological fallacy [wikipedia.org]. When you wrote "LGBT" did the 'G' mean 'happy?'
You're quoting a political entity rather than a factual entity.
I'm quoting one of the most widely accepted definitions of the distinction. What's more, you understand full well that this is how the term is being employed ... you're entering 'bad faith' territory here. But if you want authoritative, let's see what the OED has to say:
3 b. Psychol. and Sociol. (orig. U.S.). The state of being male or female as expressed by social or cultural distinctions and differences, rather than biological ones ...
For which a 1945 example is given as an early usage:
Amer. Jrnl. Psychol. 58 228 In the grade-school years, too, gender (which is the socialized obverse of sex) is a fixed line of demarkation, the qualifying terms being ‘feminine’ and ‘masculine’.
What in the eve
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I lied, almost done here.
One more little nugget for you.
http://www.dsm5.org/documents/... [dsm5.org]
71% of people with gender dysphoria will have some other mental health diagnosis in their lifetime.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-he... [webmd.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
That said I am going to assume you are a member of the 71% and recommend you see a doctor, and cease communications on this topic for the time being since you are obviously not well, and debating with the mentally ill is rarely productive.
It is with all sinc
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I lied, almost done here.
Sorry gender dysphoria, despite your apparent obsession with it, is only tangentially relevant here.
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Ok, so let's say that I'm holding a black pen in my hand ...
Silly attempt at an analogy ... what is supposed to stand for the physical state of being 'sex' and what is supposed to stand for the cultural practices which surround that physical state 'gender?'
Having a penis but wanting to have a vagina makes you a man that wants to be a woman, nothing more, nothing less.
Stop the obsession about wanting to have dick chopped off already. Jeebus ... you need only mention the word 'gender' and these guys imm
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Future archaeologists aren't going to be able to tell who was a geek or a goth or a hippy from looking at our bones, because those categories are social constructs.
Gender is a social construct like that. Gender is not sex. Sex is biological. You can tell sex (to some degree) from bones. You cannot tell gender from bones, any more than you can tell social cliques from bones, because those things are entirely made-up social constructs.
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False.
http://www.etymonline.com/inde... [etymonline.com]
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Ugh... Slashdot's transphobic brigade are absolutely the worst aspect of this site, and they seem pretty organized with their mod-points.
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I am not afraid of LGBT, I am afraid of the collateral damage caused by the more overzealous of the group.
If you really want real change that will stick then people *must* discuss it openly and without fear of reprisal. If just debating the topic gets someone in trouble you will be ( and are ) seen as a threat to be eliminated or controlled rather than someone that want's to be open about the dual nature of their gender.
tl;dr
If you don't want people to be afraid of you don't be a threat to their freedom or
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Red is manly, all other colors suck.
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As exemplified by you.
Ad-hominem attacks are how Liberals signal their acceptance of defeat.
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Gender determination is so reliable that it's entered as legal forensic evidence in a court of law.
Nice try but there are so many differences between a man and a woman's skeletal structures that your entire remains don't need to be found to determine whether or not you are male or female.
Learn to logic and do some real research.
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And never mind that there are people with hermaphrodit
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Several Millennia of the 'binary' gender/sex of Male / Female physiology is not whimsy to the deliberate cognitive dissonance of a microscopic representation of humanities edge cases as measured along the same time frame.
You can deny the reality all you want. Nobody can wish away the gender they were born with. You may be able to find pools of individuals to participate in an echo chamber where you can imagine your reality is real but as sure as the Sun rises and the river flows if you desire to continue y
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Several Millennia of the 'binary' gender/sex of Male / Female physiology is not whimsy to the deliberate cognitive dissonance of a microscopic representation of humanities edge cases as measured along the same time frame.
Several millennia are also whimsy to democracy, rule of law, vaccination, MRI, X-Rays, internal surgery and computers. And I've noticed that you're not even defending your position that there are only two "genders" anymore.
Now you've moved goalpoasts now.
Just as a hint, there's no surgery that will enable you to produce sperm if you're a woman, and no surgery to enable you to bear a child to term is you're a man. *NONE* And even you know why.
The key word here is "yet". There are attempts at uterus transplants already and there are *NO* reasons why sufficiently advanced surgery won't be able to get trans-females to bear children. It'll take some time, though.
Oh, and not every woman can bear
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The key word here is "yet". There are attempts at uterus transplants already and there are *NO* reasons why sufficiently advanced surgery won't be able to get trans-females to bear children. It'll take some time, though.
Oh, and not every woman can bear children and not every man can produce sperm. So do we have four genders now?
What you're failing to grasp is X Y.
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False.
http://www.etymonline.com/inde... [etymonline.com]
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That is great satire. The retarded perpetually offended class will always find something to be offended about. Love the stupid I sound smart language that those idiots always use "patriarchal normative modus ponens"
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It seems they only care about ridiculous emojis
That's because it's a hot news topic. It's a topic that angers up the blood of powerless nerds, thus generating page views.
If you want to know about something other than emoji, you'll need to head over to unicode.org yourself. For example, there was a meeting in Cambridge a few days ago focused on improving support for Egyptian hieroglyphs. Last month, a group met at Berkeley to begin work on including Mayan hieroglyphs.
Last month, support was added for over 7500 characters, less than 1% of which were em
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I judge people on their merits and not their gender, race or sexuality.
No, you don't. You've just never had to confront your bias directly before.
But, with the advent of SJWs, I feel a great resentment towards almost anything they say.
See, if you were actually this mythical perfect egalitarian, like you believed yourself to be, you wouldn't even notice those horrible SJW's save to say "huh, I didn't know that was still an issue" before moving on.
The truth is that you've carried countless conscious and unconscious biases with you for your entire life. You've just been protected from confronting those biases by a society willing to reinforce them.
Really, all this SJW stuff does is alienate the majority of society who are effectively neutral and maybe even mildly supportive to begin with.
So you believe t