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Samsung Beat Apple In Smartphone Shipments, Profit Surges To 2-Year High (thehindu.com) 126

An anonymous reader writes: Earlier reports speculated this to be true, but now it's official: Samsung has beat Apple in smartphone shipments to lift the company to its most profitable quarter in over two years. The Hindu reports: "Riding on the strong sales of its Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S7 Edge smartphones, Samsung Electronics on Thursday declared 8.14 trillion won ($7billion) year on-year operating profit -- 18 percent in the second quarter results. Touted as bad news for Apple that saw a 15 percent decline in iPhone sales in its second quarter results announced this week, Samsung saw substantial earnings improvement led by sales of its flagship products such as Galaxy S7 and S7 edge. A streamlined mid-to low-end smartphone lineup also contributed to improved profitability for the company. According to Samsung, it shipped about 90 million handsets in the April-June period with smartphones making up more than 80 per cent of the total, the Korea Herald reported. Samsung's second-quarter smartphone shipments are estimated at about 72 million units, almost doubling Apple's iPhone shipments of 40.4 million units during the same period."
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Samsung Beat Apple In Smartphone Shipments, Profit Surges To 2-Year High

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  • by npslider ( 4555045 ) on Thursday July 28, 2016 @06:50PM (#52603091)

    I am very impressed with my S7 Edge. It took me a little time to adjust to the curved screen, but all in all I prefer it to my iPhone 6. If Samsung continues to move forward, and Apple does not step up its game, this could be the the new normal.

    • by Ark42 ( 522144 )

      Can you easily root the S7? I heard that the S4 and forward are pretty locked down. I just bought a Nexus 5X after owning several Samsung phones in the past that were all rooted.

      • I have not tried to root my phone, it's my first Android device, I am still getting truly used to it. I have seen many rooting articles online mentioning the S7, and given it's popularity I would say it is fairly easy to do (no more difficult than any other android phone).

      • Even if you can, Samsung has Knox which will permanently void your warranty with a hardware fuse if you root it.
    • by jimngo ( 320248 )

      Well, Apple has Beats. So there.

      • I have Apple Music on my Android.

      • Well, Apple has Beats. So there.

        You mean Apple Music.

      • Well, Apple has Beats. So there.

        While Samsung might have shipped more phones this quarter, Apple's net income was $7.8 billion in the fiscal third quarter that ended June 25. So they still made more money.

        • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

          I don't give a crap about either of them, as long as they supply an affordable, durable water resistant phablet, with swappable long life battery, stylus, expandable memory and 3D virtual reality glasses. I feel absolutely no need to stump for corporations unless they serve the public good, other wise fuck em (PS never ever brag about your supplier making shit bucket tons of money, just makes you look silly and gullible, as that money is coming out of your pocket. As an end user, as the customer, you shoul

          • I don't give a crap about either of them, as long as they supply an affordable, durable water resistant phablet, with swappable long life battery,

            You 're out of device then, period.

        • So they still made more money.

          I never understood why that's supposed to be a good thing, from the consumer's perspective.

          Where do you think all that money is coming from?

        • Apple's net income was $7.8 billion in the fiscal third quarter that ended June 25. So they still made more money.

          Not by much. And Samsung is going up while Apple is going down.

          • Apple's net income was $7.8 billion in the fiscal third quarter that ended June 25. So they still made more money.

            Not by much. And Samsung is going up while Apple is going down.

            Again, not over 2 years.

            • Apple's net income was $7.8 billion in the fiscal third quarter that ended June 25. So they still made more money.

              Not by much. And Samsung is going up while Apple is going down.

              Again, not over 2 years.

              That was then, this is now. AKA: read the writing on the wall.

              • Apple's net income was $7.8 billion in the fiscal third quarter that ended June 25. So they still made more money.

                Not by much. And Samsung is going up while Apple is going down.

                Again, not over 2 years.

                That was then, this is now. AKA: read the writing on the wall.

                You should learn to read before mentioning the writing - Apple fell less than they grew the year before, while Samsung couldn't compensate for the devastating sales drop of the previous year.

                Or to make it even clearer: you are trying to predict the future by pretending the one year trend will continue, while ignoring that that would have failed even more miserable than the "John Carter of Mars" movie for both Apple and Samsung two years in a row. Are you really too dumb to realize that?

    • I am very impressed with my S7 Edge. It took me a little time to adjust to the curved screen, but all in all I prefer it to my iPhone 6. If Samsung continues to move forward, and Apple does not step up its game, this could be the the new normal.

      This will all swap back around in September, when the iPhone 7 debuts.

      • This will all swap back around in September, when the iPhone 7 debuts.

        Apple's annual product bump gets smaller every year, as Apple continues to lose market share to Android and even Microsoft. How much does that suck?

        And apparently Apple has run out of ideas. [wsj.com]

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      I don't like my work's S6 edge's curved screen. I keep pressing stuff that I didn't want to! It might be my disabilities that I was born with. :( However, I have little problems with iPhones (4S and 6s).

    • I am fond of my S7 as well. I just wish Samsung had the software development skills of Apple. The hardware is near perfect, but the software is slow and buggy.

  • Go Samsung! (Score:3, Funny)

    by markdavis ( 642305 ) on Thursday July 28, 2016 @07:07PM (#52603179)

    But, But, But.... according to this earlier today: https://apple.slashdot.org/sto... [slashdot.org]

    the "iphone" is the most popular product of all time!!!! It is the best thing since sliced bread! It solved all the world's problems! It changed the world! Nothing else existed before it and everything about it was brand new and innovative! The article reads like distorted wet-dream fanclub marketing propaganda, completely ignoring reality and everything that lead up to it and happened after.

    Anyway, go Samsung! Nice to have quality choices in a far less walled-in environment.

  • It's been 9 months since the general availability of Android marshmallow, and yet the Galaxy Tab S still haven't received this update. I understand that most manufacturers these days treat tablets and tablet users as an unwanted bastard child, but the Tab S was basically Samsung's flagship tablet until almost one year ago.

    • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

      I think the way it works is you have to buy a new one.

      • Well, google had this formal (or perhaps informal) agreement with the hardware companies and a promise to the consumers that all Android devices get two years of updates. I am not complaining that you get no update (supposedly it's coming). What I am saying Samsung takes almost like a year to give an update, which is ridiculous. I remember they did the same when rolling out Android 5.0.x (it took almost a year), and then they completely skipped the 5.1 and went for 6.0, which is now almost like a year old.

        • Updates are the exact reason I left Android and I'm not going back until the problem is fixed. My last phone was Android 2.3 when I bought it, and it was only released 6 months before Android 4 came out. I never saw a single update to that phone. And it was an LG with the Google logo engraved on the back, so you think that Google, or LG, or somebody would stand behind the phone and offer updated software. But nope. Not a single update.

          • The update problem was actually fixed. You just need to buy a Google Nexus device. They get the fastest and the most frequent updates. The way I see it, for the people who care about guaranteed fast security updates, there is only one choice, Apple or Google Nexus. On top of that, the Nexus devices often give a very good on the money spent.

    • by geek ( 5680 )

      I have the 8.5 Tab S and found a marshmallow ROM for it. Was pretty easy to root and flash it. You should look into it, Samsung wont be updating it.

      • More and more streaming and financial applications do not work on alternative ROMs. Confirmed with Uverse.app and Cyanogenmod.

  • Apple is pricing itself out of the market
    • The flagship Samsung smartphones cost pretty much the same if not more.

      • Yeah, but at least you get an SD card slot (I think they skipped that with the S6). And a headphone jack. I'm sure Samsung is planning a UFS slot in their next phone, which will completely blow the iPhone out of the water. Apple really needs to start giving people what they want if they want to grow their market and start capturing die-hard Android users.

        • supports UFS and microSD [androidauthority.com]

          “The new UFS cards are not compatible with the current microSD card socket. However, we have developed a socket design that can support both UFS cards and microSD cards. We are working with different partners in the industry on this integration for next-generation devices.”
  • They tried to do the Apple-style memory cash grab with the S6, and consumers said no thanks. Good to see they learned their lesson. Everyone wins!

  • Isn't it great when these mega companies make huge profits? Not really. It's only great if they invest that money in R&D. If they are waiting around for someone else to come up with a new idea they can copy then they can go to hell. It's one thing to cut your costs to the bone to compete with innovators, but another to support a worthwhile R&D team that can move the technology forward.

    Most of us know who is resting on their laurels and who are pushing the envelope. Amazon, Google, Apple, IBM, Intel

    • by swell ( 195815 )

      addendum:

      The companies listed also take risks. They try products/services that the public might not be ready for. This is another sign of a company that might deserve respect and possibly an investment. Again, does this fit Samsung's operation? Why do you think so?

    • by Holi ( 250190 )
      " I don't know where Samsung stands on innovation" -

      Well they make the displays for everyone's phones (except LG, LG like Samsung makes displays for everyone) think OLED, They make and develop memory, They have their own ARM SoC as well as having the ability to fab their own chips.
      In 2014 Samsung was the #2 spender on R&D in the world, just a hair behind VW. They spent over $14 Billion USD on R&D in 2015. Compare that to Apple who spent $8.5 Billion.

      Take memory, they are the first to produce
    • First mass market OLED screens, 3D V-NAND Flash, etc.

      Apple is good at integrating components and software design, not actually manufacture components, since they don't manufacture anything.

  • by Plumpaquatsch ( 2701653 ) on Friday July 29, 2016 @08:50AM (#52605557) Journal
    So let's compare to the same quarter 2 years ago: Apple sold 35.2 million iPhones in (calender) quarter 2 of 2014 [apple.com], while Samsung sold 78 million [bloomberg.com]. So comparing those two quarters two years apart, Apple sold 14.7% more iPhones, while Samsung's smartphone sales are down by 7.7%.

    So clearly in 2016 Samsung is the winner because they had a terrible year in 2015, while Apple is TEH L00zer because they had an incredible 2015.

    • by ledow ( 319597 )

      Samsung loses despite making twice as much money and/or shipping MORE THAN twice as much product?

      Yeah. Strange Appley world you live in.

      Sure it's not "as good" an improvement in the year-to-years, but a company with smaller sales can make an percentage increase in sales much easier than a company with already a vast majority of the market.

      Meanwhile iPhones are outnumbered 3:1 or more across the globe.

      • Samsung loses despite making twice as much money and/or shipping MORE THAN twice as much product?

        Let's ignore again that Samsung's sales are dropping.

        The dd not make more money.. You are confuddeling revenue with profit.

  • Samsung has been beating Apple in smartphone shipments since 2012.

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